@@clonetrooper4542 time is always flimsy. Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff. *if you know, you know. If you don’t, don’t argue with me cuz I just wanted to make a whovian reference.*
I would like to think it’s boo/Mary because of the theory that she never dies because she created a time loop of trying to find Sully but that’s just what I think
in soul Joe asked if he was dead and then the Jerrys said that he was being kept alive (presumibly for the seminar) so likely he did die, but just happened to luck into the situation he was in.
Since Pixar's workers are the great god of the Pixar universe, that yawn moved the asteroid so that it didn't hit earth. The air exhaled from the workers mouth created a wind current that affected the asteroid trajectory and allowed it to miss the Earth :D
ok, something I just realized about Brave. At the end of the movie, Merida has also reunited the four clans. Four clans = four brothers. Her father is the Bear King. I think she is actually descended from Mordu and by reuniting the clans, AKA the brothers, she also broke his curse as well. I know there's the 24 hours to break the curse line, but what if the spell happening again restarted that count for him as well and made him mortal again? just a thought.
Terry tells Jerry that is isn’t possible for the count to be off because that hasn’t happened in centuries...Implying that they discovered that mordue was turned into a bear and trapped alive on Earth by a witch (Boo) but died after the curse was lifted (crushed to death). Terry says it isn’t possible for the count to be off...like either it’s not possible because it’s been too soon since the last witchy incident...or because they know that during this time Boo is not a witch time-spacey traveler, but a little girl being scared by the monsters in her closet. And maybe the witch boo is dead already?
@@killernyancat8193 i do not mind, but for starters a reason the witch or some might say boo might have sully as a statue is maybe due to the doors might beinh able to take you different places in time, maybe sometime after the movie they used a door and traveled to a certain place in time and the witch maybe spotted them and decided to make those sculptures for a reason and not because she is boo. I don't have much evidence on this theory however.
Okay, so I had a massive brainfart at 1:30 and was like "The person the count was off for first was Harry Potter" and then remembered that's not a Pixar movie.
Before the video started, I thought that it was gonna be the witch from Brave since she wasn’t going to be born yet because she’s Boo. There would be an extra death in terms of a birth-death ratio and that might’ve disrupted the count.
Time doesn't exist in the great beyond/before, Mr. Mittens could come back because he hadn't gotten to the great beyond yet. Could have been there forever.
@@Adam-we9ww I figured If the other religious figures exist like Mahatma Gondi, Mother Theresa, etc. then in this universe, Jesus exists as well. We know they existed in this universe because they were mentors of 22. So, in this universe, he could have existed, found a way back to his body and boom! Whole new religion started.
@@bellatrixareforkids7406 Yeah, But Gandhi and Theresa were real people without magic powers. Barring the argument that Jesus is an amalgam of several contemporary jewish scholars, if he did exist, we can't automatically assume he was a magic demigod. It could have been Jesus who upset the count, but the existence of Gandhi and Theresa are irrelevant to the argument. Maybe if we saw Moses or Buddha or Mohamed, we could make the argument that Jesus for sure exists in Pixar as the son of god.
Just imagine if the Pixar theory was once just a fan made speculation, and perhaps in the move Soul, Pixar finally decided to make the whole Pixar theory universe a cannon thing. 😅
She says time doesn't exist, but it is still relative (pun intended) because every portal that connects any part of soul world is connected to Joe's present, meaning that while they can perceive time in different ways, it still has can be accounted for, and Terry and the Jerrys do NOT perceive time non-linearly, otherwise they would know what their future selves know and wouldn't have to spend time researching, etc. Honestly, I think it's more likely that the count was off because when Boo died some years after the events in Brave that it was an EXTRA soul that threw the count off, rather than one that was supposed to go through, but didn't.
Theory: Could monsters just be humans without souls? Based off of the logic this video gives, the Axium never had anyone gain a soul that was born. This could be the reason why the people in the Axium eventually became monsters: They had to evolve other ways of surviving from being soulless. The souls gave people normal life. This is just a shot in the dark.
Wall-E is 100% an extrovert, he makes friends with everything her encounters, and annoyance is in the eye of the beholder. Some of the other bots certainly found him a nuisance (at first)
5:12 Human brain actually spread out feeling of "happiness" Thingy that make dying people accept their death. It feels like a weight has been lifted off your shoulder Well,speaking from my experience of course,din't know how others felt it since most of them died
I know it's supposed to be reserved for just the Pixar universe, but there are MANY other Disney characters that have potentially thrown off the count: Eugene, Gothel, Tinkerbell(?), Snow White ("sleeping death"), The Beast, Gurgi, Tala?, Anna, Elsa, Olaf?, Pinocchio, Megara, Esmeralda?, Queen Ariana?, Fairy Godmother (in that one Cinderella sequel), etc.
I seriously had that question when I watch the movie but because it's so far in the beginning of the movie I forgot at the end until I saw this video that I had that exact same question
The whole point of Wall-E possibly being a soul is the whole Pixar thing with memory. A soul's memory is what keeps things alive, like in Inside Out. Only memories are what kept certain things alive. They talk about this in one of their videos. The reason that Wall-E has a soul is proven (through this Pixar theory that memory is what keeps things alive) when the plant happens to grow near the only other living thing on Earth: Wall-E. If he wasn't there, through the Pixar theory, then the plant shouldn't have grown. Also notice that when the humans arrive back on Earth, suddenly more plants are growing. Memory is what makes a soul. Wall-E has a memory and therefore, he has a soul. Plus, the difference between the way Wall-E and other robots act just proves that Wall-E is different. There is no denying that Wall-E has a soul, he just doesn't have a human body.
I think that it's boo, she becomes the with in brave and never dies because she chases after Sully. The movie is also set centuries before Soul. Boo never dies because she uses magic so she would disrupt the count. It's likely that she was supposed to due around the time that Brave is set which is centuries before Soul
My thinking was that it might be the witch herself. I mean... according to the Pixar theory, the witch is Boo. She comes from the future, meaning if she were to die during Merida’s time, her soul would be out of place in time. There would be an excess soul on the conveyor. But of course, this requires that the Pixar Theory itself be true, and I also like this theory too.
Do you think part of the reason why Terry was so livid was because Mordue and Terry did not want to wait that long for the count to be corrected if he can do it
My question then is, was joe really dead? He wasn’t in the morgue. Was he just alive because his soul didn’t reach the light? So the fall... put him in a (should be) fatal coma?
he wouldn’t have been dead until he crossed into the great beyond. he was in a coma i think. i think he was put in a somewhat transitional phase, between life and death.
You can become brain dead but your body will still function, I personally have seen pregnant women have that happen and they keep her body alive while she is pregnant and when she is in labor, they do a C section and have the baby and let the mom pass away because she has suffered enough and it’s her time
I thought it said it was a coma. The real question is how 22 was able to walk fine. like broken bones? He literally was gonna die. That had to major damage.
Age is calculated from date of birth. Time isn't a thing in the great before and 22 hasn't been born yet. You can't even argue that she's older in terms of life experience, as she hasn't had any before the movie.
Honestly, the whole concept of Soul is terrifying for those who have"cheated death", aka have had a near death experience. I enjoyed the movie just fine but let's get real, the concept of an interdimensional being trying to track down souls who were supposed to, but didn't die is really scary.
Maybe is the opposite way? Like, you are not supposed to die and then some interdimensional thing is trying to track down who died and offed the count +1
@Jocelyn Anderson 22 said they could take on any voice they wanted in the Great Before, but chose theirs because it annoyed people the most. So the accent wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker!
Speaking of Soul, there is a soul in the You-Seminar video that described themself as a "manipulative megalomaniac who's intensely opportunistic." My head canon is that this exact soul actually becomes Buddy, better known as Syndrome. It makes sense! Buddy was born around 1933, and assuming the Terrys make a new video every so often, the video would have been recorded about 70 years ago. (This also kind of explains why we don't see the Jerry in the video.) Edit: We do see him actually, just only once. Syndrome is very manipulative, constantly using reverse psychology and peer pressure. He is also incredibly obsessed with being powerful, as we see him bragging about his inventions many times. This would explain the whole "megalomaniac" ordeal. Also, I believe living in a volcano and killing off Supers as a means to test his inventions are both very opportunistic. What do you think? I really like this theory!
Fun Fact: Terry is actually a female! She is voiced by Rachael House who played Gramma Tala in Moana. And if you look up her official description you will see Terry is referred to as she.
Good theory, only one issue. Boo avoiding her death doesn't happen centuries before Joe hops off the conveyer belt. The human side of the door in Monsters Inc. would be happening in the 1990s (considering Sid from Toy Story appears in a few comics going into the monster world through the doors). I can't find anything about Soul's year, but I doubt it happens centuries after the 1990s. Even if Boo was supposed to die soon after Monsters Inc. (which is dark, considering she was like 4, but whatever), it wouldn't be centuries before Joe disrupted it.
Mister Mittens coming back was actually stated to be a result of it's nine lives. I believe one of the writers said it when asked about it. Pixar writers certainly have a sense of humor.
@@darrenmacqueen9884 Nah, Terry just sees the cat on the conveyor belt and throws it back onto Earth, because Terry really likes cats and don't want them to die, but Terry feels like 10 lives is a little too much.
@@9nikola lol I like this explanation. I am surprised that Pixar said it was a 9 lives situation though. I figured Terry just returned the cat to his own body to restore the count. Since the cat wasn't supposed to die.
Theory: Mother Gothel is the one that threw off the count, she was hundreds of years old so she probably should've died a long time before she actually did Edit: I realize now that it wouldn't work because it's not Pixar, I didn't really think of that when I originally wrote it
@@2ndlt.sadness67 Nope. It’s explained in the video, the count is the number of people whose fate indicates that they’re supposed to go to the great beyond. The whole theory is that Mordu changed his fate and thus never died, so he disrupted the count. Doesn’t really matter either way though since Mother Gothel isn’t in the pixar universe.
@@sofiacopsey1784 It actually does in this case, since the rules of the Pixar theory is that the material has to be from a Pixar-produced content. In one's own headcanon it doesn't have to be Pixar, but in this specific case, it has to be.
Theory: Joe had a heart attack from the shock of the fall. A sewer maintenance worker saved him from drowning in the sewer but Joe's fate was up in the air while they did open heart surgery to remove the clot. He would only have a few bruises and a chest scar which would be hidden by his gown/clothes.
No way was he in open heart surgery and able to just up and out within a few minutes. The anesthesia alone would have you hella out of it for hours, not to mention the pain. I'm honestly not sure how they can explain a hospital stay starting in the afternoon with a performance that night and still get everything done (everything involving time on earth since time is funky elsewhere).
I never considered that, but if Terry seems to know about what souls are and aren't supposed to be there, wouldn't he know Jesus was supposed to come back to life? One of the Jerries pretty much confirmed the existence of both Heaven and "H-E double hockey sticks" when they told Joe he was in the great before. Therefore God *definitely* exists in Soul and it's possible he would have told Terry, one or more Jerries, or both about Jesus' resurrection.
@@jaydenmichael5188 Terry knows the count. Does Terry know anything more than the figures? I don’t think so. Then naturally the count would be off for Terry centuries ago (about 20) because Terry wouldn’t have known the resurrection plan. Terry isn’t too bright if the Jerries could rig the count so easily for Joe at the end. It could have been fixed that way before or some other more “divine directive” way.
Knowing how much Terry cares about the count she was probably scratching her head for longest time trying to figure out which soul was missing but when Mor’du’s soul finally leaves the bear’s body she probably said “Terry time”.
pixar: lets just say something random like, is hasnt been off in centuries, just to make it clear its something that almost never happens SCB: WHAT HAPPENED CENTURIES AGO?
I wonder if Terry was shocked with the amount of people entering the Great Beyond during 2020-2021. "THE COUNT IS OFF!! WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SOULS ENTERING???"
Nah bro watta bout Black Death killed a third of Europe and the Spanish flu diseases happen it’s natural we were actually pretty lucky Covid wasn’t a disease as deadly as the black plague because that would have been real scary
While the souls we see *are* going to Earth, one of the Jerrys mentions they'll take Joe to "the Earth portal," which kind of implies the existence of other portals to other places, which wouldn't be too hard to believe. I really doubt the entire great before is dedicated exclusively to Earth tbh
especially since jerry said they are the "coming together of *all* quantized fields of the universe." so bascially the pixar universe, of which onward is a part of.
But if The Pixar theory is true, it wouldn't be an extra soul in the past, it would just be Boo's soul when it was her time, it's not like she both died in the future and the past.
@@raylop80731 this all assumes she dies in Mereda's time period. The idea is the Witch is Boo travelling through time looking for Sully. What reason would she have to stay in Merida's time if she's looking for Sully? She could just as easily have moved to a different time period, either to return to her own to die, or possibly throwing off the count a third time in Sully's far-future after finding him.
@@TamTroll have you seen the cabin? By the looks of it shes been there for a bit. Yes its possible that she left the time period but its also possible she died there.
so how would Boo NOT throw off the count? if she is a time traveler when is she supposed to die? does she never die creating a similar situation as mordu??
The thing about time travel is that if it is possible to go backward, as the Theory suggests, it always happened that way. The past becomes the traveler's present. They were always going to go back, and so they were always expected to die in the past. Time Travel doesn't disrupt the count.
Surprised you didn't have Boo on your list. In her search for Sully, she throws off the count by taking over the body of the old lady in Brave, a movie that takes place centuries before Soul.
She didn’t take over the body, that is her body. She goes through time a traveling door, one of the ones from the scare factory in monsters Inc. disguised to look like a cabin door so it would not be noticed, but can still travel through time over the course of the movie only having to go through a small space to get to the other door. Hence, the cabin.
@@everyonessunshine It is possible that the eye colour change happened accidentally earlier in her life when she was only just starting to learn magic and didn't really understand it fully.
I mean technically Merida DOES bring back her mother with her apology with confession of love, not with the tapestry. So that IS kind of like walle and eves hand holding.
well, the needlepoint wasn't what fixed Merida's curse on her mother. it was Merida finally admitting that the situation was her fault and accepting responsibility for her actions.
NyGeL I guess I don’t either because I don’t like dancing and I’m really bad at it soooooooo.......... I guess I don’t have soul, wonderful.... I mean wouldn’t really surprise me cause, you know.... 2020
@@aje8790 It’s so surprising to me that so many people think Terry is meant to evoke a boy. She is voiced by a woman who doesn’t alter her voice in any way for the role
Cross over theory time: The only reason Miguel could live in the land of the dead in Coco was because that was the exact same time the count was off in Soul.
I love the way that the Jerry’s responded to Terry telling them the count’s off. “Hey yo, fellow cosmic beings that don’t actually have a physical form but look however you’re perceived by the humans you interact with, I have come to alert you that someone literally cheated death, and are now running amok somewhere.” “.....ok and?”
