Whos A Better Defender? Lebron or Jordan? "Michael Jordan: One of the Best Defenders Ever" REACTION! 

“My opinion is based on facts” (feelings) Jordan’s time with the Bulls was 13 years - 2nd season was missed with a broken foot, more than half 94-95 was missed because he was playing baseball, so, 11.5 seasons 11.5 seasons. 10 scoring titles. 9 All Defensive First Teams. 3x steals leader meaning he was the best at stopping opponents possessions. Lebron has had 5 All Defensive Firsts in 19 seasons. I watched both careers and have seen both live. I love both players. It’s not close.

Let me give you a statistical breakdown you wanted and compare him to Lebron. Career averages for steals Michael Jordan: 2.3 steals for per game Lebron James: 1.6 steals per game Career averages for blocks Michael Jordan: 0.83 Lebron James: 0.76 Also consider Jordan is 3 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter and still averaged more blocks per game for his career Highest steals per game average in a season Michael Jordan: 3.2 Lebron James: 2.2 Highest block per game average in a season Michael Jordan: 1.6 Lebron James: 1.1 Led position in defensive win shares Michael Jordan: 10 times out of 15 seasons (note that it would’ve been 12 had Jordan qualified in 1984-1985, 1994-1995 season but due to not enough games played he didn’t) Lebron James: 4 times out of 19 seasons Led league in steals Michael Jordan: 3 times Lebron James: 0 times Defensive player of the year Michael Jordan: 1 time Lebron James: 0 times There’s your statistical breakdown.

How can you see LeBron do that all the time when he stopped playing defence for years now 😂?

Jordan's timing is impeccable. No wonder you think he gets the easy plays. He makes it look that easy. That's greatness.

Confirmation Bias….Besides the video footage dims what Jordan did. I was not a fan of his but you can’t deny he is the GOAT. Lebron is not even close.

Lebron: • Played 19 years (un-retired) • 5x NBA All-Defensive 1st Team Jordan: • Played 15 years (retired) • 9x NBA All-Defensive 1st Team • 3x NBA Steals Leader • 1x NBA Defensive POY So it’s actually not a debate at all, Jordan was definitely the better defender

Michael Jordan is the only guard in NBA history to be in the top 5 in both blocks per game and steals per game at either guard positions. Led the league in steals 3 times. 9 time first team all NBA defense (still tied for the most ever) including 1 defensive player of the year. To date, there are only 4 players to have over 200 steals and 100 blocks in a single season. Michael Jordan did it twice. Just as it is on offense, Michael Jordan is the far superior player.

It doesn’t matter if you never watched him, he still exist. Michael Jordan is undoubtably the greatest US athlete, so this easily makes him the greatest basketball player.

My knee-jerk reaction to the reaction was that it struck me the same way crooked cops do when they bend the evidence to fit their beliefs instead of bending their beliefs to fit the evidence... or like the old checkpoint charlie DUI stops where they stop everyone at designated spots and treat them like their drunk until they can prove that they aren't. If you can't put personal bias aside, your opinion can't be changed, meaning that there's no sense in anyone watching the reaction because they know what they're going to get before they ever press play. Tell you what, why don't you lookup 'Michael Jordan Best Passing Highlights' give it a watch, then pull up your favorite video of LeFlop Passing Highlights, and then give me your favorite examples and tell me at what spot (00:00) I should start watching. Or hell, just pull up 'Michael Jordan's Historic Bulls Mixtape' or 'Michael Jordan Best Rare Video Ever Voyager', then pull up your favorite LeTravel Highlights, play them simultaneously on separate screens, and other than making fun of Dirk being sick during the DAL/MIA Finals, missing shots, missing FT, quitting on his team during a game, deciding to go to the bench on his own, narrowly avoiding an airball while trying to duplicate someone else's eyes-closed free throw, having a career FG 37% when shooting from more than 3' (FEET) away from the rim, using karate kick defense, asking to come out of games, taking days off, throwing teammates under the bus, anointing himself royalty before ever stepping onto an NBA court, being a 17 year old junior in high school listed as 'CHOSEN ONE' on the cover of Sports Illustrated and having his high school games shown on ESPN, whining, complaining, flopping, traveling, etc, etc, etc, show me what it is specifically that LeBron does, or ever did better than Jordan. There's a big difference between doing something more than someone else did, and doing it better. Nick Wright says LeFlop's bigger, faster, and stronger, and I admit that he is bigger and faster. But since when is a 4.6 40 faster than a 4.38 40? Pull up MJ's accolades and tell me how those 9 all-defensive first teams, Defensive Player of the Year award and 3-time steals leader, how that somehow makes LeBron the better defensive player. Tell me how MJ's 10 scoring titles and 30 ppg career average magically makes LeBron the better offensive player? If you and i play 1-on-1, by all means, feel free to pass me the ball and try jumping for rebounds because all I care about is scoring points and winning. And when you lose and lose badly, no worries, because your fanboys will reassure you that you're a better teammate, and that somehow, that makes you the GOAT.

Lebron is an all star level defender, MJ is a HOF caliber defender "simple as that".

MJ , Defensive player of the year , Scoring title, finals MVP ,& NBA Championship. All in the same year . Fact .

While Bron has made some of the same defensive plays as Jordan (according to you anyway) - what Bron has NEVER done is be a consistent defender. He has huge lapses, he takes plays off, sometimes he doesn’t even get back across half court - he just watches and waits for someone to toss him the ball again. Those are things NO ONE ever said about MJ. Even in his Wizards days he was a better defender than LJ. There’s a reason MJ was 10 times all defense (and 1 DPOY while also winning MVP and the scoring title that same year) - how many times has LJ done that? Let alone in a single season? Is LJ an incredible and gifted basketball player? Absolutely! Is he as good or better than MJ? Not even close. - I don’t have LJ in my top 5 but that’s just me.

Michael Jordan's offense was a result of his intensity on defense...you'll never ever see LeBron play defense with the same level of intensity or determination that MJ did....wow! I'm surprised to hear you say that you're not impressed with MJs defense....he was all over the court running down player after player blocking shots, intercepting passes sometimes with 1 hand or 2, and stealing the ball from guys much bigger and stronger than he was....He won Defensive Player of the Year the SAME season he won the Scoring Title!!! NO one in the NBA has ever done that, NOT even your favorite hero, LeBron! MJ's defensive skills, timing, energy, and IQ were off the charts good that no one's ever seen before...so many players, coaches (past and present) speak so highly of talents on defense and offense.....what more does he need to show? He left it all on the court....debating this stuff is useless because MJ set the bar so high that players are constantly chasing his greatness...Look what MJ accomplished and earned in 13 full seasons and then look at LeBron's career...not even close!! A Hall of Fame career separates them....just sayin'

None of those are easy steals he just predicting the pass at the right time, he was so good at that he makes it look easy. That’s why they call him the black cat. Bron never played this type of D

The NBA rules changed in 2005 after Lebron missed the playoffs his first 2 years. Made the game easier for the small player and it definitely made the game easier for bigger players like Lebron.🤣✌🏽

MJ had 8+ steals in a game over 10 times

LeBronda don't play defense, that's what's funny about this video.

Jordan had a chase down block at 39 years old as a wizard! " the 3 point line wasn't always there " ????Cmon man! Smh 😆🤣

Where are all the plays of Jordan resting on defense because he was depended on to put up 30+? I want to see those. The best athletes play in today’s game but somehow they need to “work load manage.”

Dude you gotta understand his IQ when it comes to this! He damn near already know what the offensive players intentions are based off of how he's aware of his surroundings. His overall athletic personality is more fluent than Lebron's. Michael Is The Game Changer.

The problem is, Jordan makes the passes look weak because he's always 110% on both ends of the court 110% of the time. Lebron one of the examples why the whistle is blown all the time now. One word, Cry BABIES! #FACTS

BTW, when you said, "These are School Principals" at 9:30, that was Tom Chambers. You probably don't know who he is but you should look into it. He was no school principal and Jordan would do the same thing to the guys playing today.

You said “look how weak this pass is” …it was supposed to be a lob pass into the paint, you’re supposed to throw it “soft” or “weak” MJ just jumps too damn high. But a lot of his jumping ability comes from the school principals he plays.

Jordan is so good at defense, he makes blocking and stealing look so easy... And you just can't comprehend that even if you see it... I'm no jordan fan but I know he is way better than lebron... But you are just so biased bruh... Too bad

If MJ didn’t retire twice he’d be the all time leader in total steals…and Lebron didn’t get the block on igudalla by himself🤣✌🏽

Ben Simmons got better defense then Bron in my eyes and MJ got better defense then Ben so that makes him better tbh MJ should be in the conversation with Ben Wallace on defense

Next you can react to LeBron defense so I can pick that sh1t apart.

Mj da goat

It’s called anticipation and court awareness. They absolutely knew what Jordan could do. He couldn’t be completely stopped on offense or defense

You're not seeing anything you haven't seen before.... true, in the context of a individual move or play, what your not seeing is the willingness, the consistency, the willpower, the relentless warrior that never took a night off. You think the pass is soft, but they were nervous from his presence, it's called intimidation. Good reaction

If TJ McConnell can get double digit steals in this league, then you can't talk any trash about Jordan's league.

You are so much of a hater bro he only had help defense on power forwards because you do know he was only a guard right? And he had blocks and steals and in this video he was getting steals playing one on 1 defense so stop it bro it’s okay to LOVE Your Hero LEBRON and still Respect JORDAN Greatness but when you watch a video and still try to paint another picture you just look crazy my guy 😂😂🤔🤔👀

MJ was first all time in blocks (guards) until wade passed him his last year or something, and he's also like 4th or 5th in steals all time, plus he has the most all defensive first teams with 9. Those are the facts

Jordan on Defense He was the first player in history to be selected to 9 All Defensive First teams. He was the first player in history to get 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season, it has still only been done by 3 players. (Michael did it twice). He was the steals leader 3 times. He's the only guard in history, relative to his position, both in the Top 5 for blocks and Top 5 for steals. He was the defensive Player of the Year and Scoring Champion in the same year, the only player in history to accomplish this. His 131 blocks for the 1988 season is still the most blocks in a season by a guard in NBA history.

Come on everybody knows Jordan was a better defender than Lebron, that's not even a debate. Jordan is both a better perimeter defender and shot blocker, and Lebron is 6'9 and has like 50 pounds on Jordan. The only thing Lebron has in terms of defense over Jordan is size and the chase down block.

Jordan didn't care if his team was ahead by 50 pts, 1 pt., or 50 pts down or 1 pt down to another team...He literally played EVERY possession like it was his last on planet Earth!!! unlike LeBron who plays defense whenever he feels like it or when he's had enough 'rest' so that he could play more on offense......I think it's super funny how many times Michael Jordan stole the ball and then SCORED buckets!! His defense was his offense....that's one of the many many reasons on why he's obviously a much greater player than anyone else on the court....these are the facts and they are undisputed....peace!

The reason why Michael is so much better than Lebron on defense, particularly 1 on 1, is because of his effort and relentlessness on D. Dude said he wasn’t seeing anything special or something he’d never seen. That’s not the point of defense, it’s not supposed to be glamorous which is why guys in the league now don’t play defense very well because there’s no glamour in playing D because it’s built on effort and “want to.” You can demoralize a man more by locking him down than scoring on him because it’s extremely frustrating to have someone in your grill the whole game. Lebron has never been confused as a great on ball defender he’s a better team defensive player. Lebron’s blocks were mostly chase down blocks and he wasn’t the type of guy to get a lot of steals either even in his prime. I got a lot of respect for Lebron but Jordan was the superior defender no questions asked

Come on wann, mj has a dpoy. Bron don’t

18:18 Buck Williams - 1 of the strongest toughest players to ever play basketball and your like “hold the ball” it ain’t that easy man! MJ is big strong fast. You’re taking it for granted MJ making it look easy

Wann ian go Lie it sound like you was hating, it aint his fault he knew how to read easy passes.

Jordan was just that quick in the passing lanes, it got to a point teams were afraid to pass the ball in his area, cause of stuff you see in the video.

The reason why I say MJ is the best is because I seen Jordan’s entire career, Kobe’s entire career and so far Lebron’s career. All are great but no one is touching Jordan. He set the standard everyone is trying to live up to! As far as highlights are concerned, check out Michael Jordan’s Voyager

It’s jordan by a mile. Lebron was a great defender for a few years at best and serviceable for a few more years. He’s been TERRIBLE the last 6 years or so just in effort alone. And effort is 33% of defense along with skill and IQ. It’s not even a convo. Mj’s better one on one, is just as good hood off ball, is much better stealer and shot blocker, and he actually has the ability to lockdown opposing stars. Lebron hasn’t locked anyone up. He’s played okay enough defense to help slow someone for small periods but that’s it.

MJ is the only player in NBA history to have over 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season. He did it twice. LeBron has never had a single season with either 200 steals or 100 blocks but MJ did both in a single season, twice. MJ also has a higher career per-game averages for blocks and steals than LBJ, which means he was more productive on the defensive end than LeBron. The stats alone prove Jordan to be the better defender.

I love how you call just about every MJ steal easy. This is what people have to do to try to make MJ less great. And you definitely haven't seen lebron do this all the time. Lebron has barely played D since 2013. Lebron has played 19 years and has only been on 5 all Defensive teams. What was lebron doing on D the other 15 years.

I feel in your speech the first stage of grief: denial 🤣🤣

I guess you love lebron defense as in 'walks slowly to the court' after a turnover or a missed rebound XD

Bro MJ only one of 2 people who has over 200 steals ans 100 blocks in one season. He did it 2x.

Jordan is the only player who's top 5 in both Steals and Blocks among all guards.

MJ played hard defense game in and game out for his Entire Career including when he was 40!! He even played all 82 games for 9 seasons including when he was 40!! There’s so comparison.

Other players that played against Jordan. They said he was so fast. They said he had cat reflexes.

What’s “spectacular” about it is the leagues best offensive player was also arguably, it’s best defensive player as well. He wasn’t one dimensional. He played both sides consistently. You don’t see highlights of him kicking at players as the go by him, or being lazy on the defensive end either.

I saw MJ play. The big difference MJ and LBJ is that MJ did this every single game. He never rested. MJ and Pip would shut down their best opponents. LBJ and players today don’t even guard their great opponents. They switch on every pick, create a mismatch, play 1v1. Back then there was team play, game planning, assignments, and the competitiveness was simply amazing to watch. Today, not so much. It’s 1v1 for the most part. The Suns were an amazing team with great shooters. The Bulls were simply better.

Those guys that seemed to give the ball to Jordan were hypnotized by Jordan. They themselves had no idea they were under his spell.

Wan I’m sorry but mj got a dpoy and Lebron got none he had led the league in steals almost every year when he was in his prime he has the 4th or 3rd most steals ever sorry not a question

When it comes down to it it’s Jordan’s energy effort and intensity is way above more than LeBron. That’s what makes him the goat over LeBron.

It is interesting that you understand that people who haven't seen Jordan play can't say whether he was the best defender or not and then say LeBron is better even though you haven't seen Jordan play except for highlights.

I'm 46- Michael Jordan's defense was better haha. I saw it. All the time. His slam dunk contest had me in awe because we'd never seen anything like him. Every night (not rest nights, not injuries) we were on the edge of our seats. When the Pistons would slam him to the ground we would worry if he might not get back up for the game let alone the season but aside from that one injury 2nd season he ALWAYS got back up. And yes we waited for him to boom on big men - that was great, but we watched him hustle, steal, and go all out and seriously the man played almost every game almost every year with very few exceptions. And they hardly ever sat him down to rest -- literally just minutes. He didn't rest on defense, he didn't let up, not ever. I'm not going to try and sell you some lies like he never had a bad game. Yep - he had a couple. And I'm not going to say he played perfectly -- sometimes the big man would get him, or sometimes those double or triple teams would work and he'd lose the ball. And the Bulls lost a LOT of games, especially earlier in his career, but even when he was at his peak, they still lost games because they were against some HARD teams and some tough competition. But... it didn't happen nearly as much as it should have considering. There are a lot of great players from then I enjoyed watching and there are some players today I enjoy watching -- but watching full games start to finish I've never seen someone BOTH have the fire and the ability all round that this man has. Never seen it even close both sides of the floor. He was like watching art. He's not just a once in a generation player, he's a once in a lifetime player IMO. I get excited if I see just a fraction of the fire and skill I saw in him. And yeah some of the stuff he did back then would be a foul now -- but it wasn't back then so if he played any less hard on defense he'd be weaksauce. He played SO hard and not dirty and killed them both technically and with ability -- I think the most underrated part of his game (and my dad agrees even though he's a Bird fan and not an MJ fan) is how smart he was. He had better full court anticipation about what the other team was gonna do and made more critical defensive plays to force turnovers and convert them to game changing points -- including the very last TWO plays of his career with the Bulls.

There is no debate as to who the better defender is.

You keep saying, lazy pass, lazy pass, lazy pass. What you fail to realize is just how easy Jordan made it look. The great ones always make it look easy. There weren't too many other players that could do what he was doing on defense. He had an explosive first step, lightning quick reflexes, long arms, the highest vertical, some of the highest basketball IQ in the league, and an undying intesity to incessantly hound the ever living hell out of anyone he was playing against. Unlike Lebron who's defense has been on the decline for the last what, 7, 8 years now? The guy who flops, the guy who sometimes doesn't even bother to raise his hands, the guy who sometimes doesn't even bother running up the court to get back on defense? You _really_ think that guy's defense is even remotely close to Jordan's??? Sorry but no. Hell no! Not even close.

This isn’t a debate Lebron fans wanna have because it only puts more distance between him & Jordan in the GOAT discussion.

You got NO fact based argument, only ones based in feelings. When the last time Lebron had 200 steals and 100 blocks in one season? I’ll wait..

Man I grew up on Mike when he won hisfirst ring in 91 I was 11 in 98 when he won his 6 ring I was 18 I saw both play lebron man not close I didn't rely on highlights I lived it

How can I say someone is the best ever but never seen him play? Easy, look at total body of work. Winning, statistics, accolades, longevity, and the eye test. You don't need to see them play Live to understand

You will never see new defense because you've already seen that from multiple players but you forgot MJ did that all by himself. Bron cannot play both defense and offense at the same time as good as MJ did.

The level of disrespect shown to the mid-90s Suns takes my breath away. In ‘93 they were 62-20 and had KJ, Majerle, Ainge, West, Chambers, Ceballos, and Dumas in addition to Barkley. Deep and talented team with great mix of youth and vets. It took a 41-point average by MJ to defeat them in 6. Smh

6'6 dude blocking 7 foot. 5:35 "I'm not seeing something expectacular"....

Jordan , pippen , and hakeem Olajuwon are he only players to achieve 100 blocks and 200 steals In a season . Jordan did it twice Hakeem only player to achieve 200 blocks and 200 steals in a season.

The issue is you were looking for something spectacular. Funnily enough there are still crazier defensive plays from Jordan the creator didn't put in. Like when he went for a block, missed, but mid air swung his hand backwards and got the clean steal. Or when someone blocked his shot and went for the fast break except Jordan was right behind him and got the chase down block/steal off the backboard (LeBron isn't the first to do that). The problem is you're looking for moments when this was Jordan as a player. He was ALWAYS in the passing lanes and was ALWAYS watching to get a block on an unsuspecting player. You can have all 5 of lebron's best defense moments cuz that's about all he has a season lol Jordan was an elite two way player and made the game look easy. Also, when you say those guys couldn't hold the ball, keep in mind that Reggie Miller for instance is on the record saying Jordan was skinny but was a very strong person. I don't think you realize just how much power is in those pocket steals or blocked dunks

Jordan is just more consistent, plays harder, and is much more enjoyable to watch. Plus if someone makes a mistake he will find it and exploit it.

You said that the young guys hasn't even seen jordan play,but I don't think that you watch him either.Because all the things that you say are unthinkable.

LeFlop can’t play defense like Jordan, considering the second the offense gets within a foot of him, LeFlop somehow ends up on the floor 🤣

Bruh come on bro i mess with you but this video you sounding like flight

Today's NBA teams average over 20 turnovers a game and none of the coaches are holding their players accountable smh. He claims to not be impressed and swears lbj does the same lol. Lbj has never in his entire career been the best player on defense in any season.

Jordan play 4 season fewer than lebron but he have 2 more rings +) 2 more finals mvp + 1 mvp + 1 Dpoy he also have 9 more scoring titles 3 more steals titles and 3 all defensive teams. MJ is 6 in 6 in finals with 6 mvp . Its about efficiency not longevity ;) Jordan stay with the same team and help this team to improve and win. Lebron just switch team when he cant win with them

MJ would not let down on defense even if they were up by 30. I never saw MJ in the backcourt like Lebron, he tried to make it up on defense if his offense was down. Lebron gives up if his offense is off. Heck he walked off the court when losing

This video is modern day fans in a nutshell man for real. Watching the best wing defender in his prime blocking shots all over the place. In passing lanes that only MJ can get into. Just flying all around the court and the response?? “They just giving him easy steals, seen Lebron do it all the time” 😂😂 some people just hard to please

MJ is better than Lebron at defense in my opinion his got the award to prove that he is

I was a kid watching Michael play, a teenager watching Kobe, and an adult watching Lebron and Michael is the best. Not only that, but its not even close. Its just that zoomers are ignorant. Ignorance is fine, but its the arrogance that they bring with it that makes anyone older mad.

He never just stood around he played both sides of the ball.

That's call reading the play NOT weak passes !!! LeBron has NEVER...

James shouldn’t be allowed to stand in Michael Jordan’s shadow. Or the shadow of his shoes.

I never saw MJ give up on his team and on defense like LJ has on multiple occasions.

defense isnt about doing flashy plays..its about being consistant fundamentals... also find me a clip of lebron slacking off on defense,..now find me a jordan clip where he is slacking off...

Anyone who saw both play knows who the better defender is. Really LBJ doesn't play defense anymore and when he did it was nothing compared to his airness

I love the ”it looks easy so it must have been bad passes/holding the ball to soft” attitude. Real ”facts” for opinions here xd

Who did Charles Barkley have on the sun's? Two other 20+ point-per-game scores and two more double digit point-per-game scores

I mean Jordan averaged more blocks per game in his career than Lebron. Theres a reason he was all defense for much of his career. You never see Jordan as a liability on the defensive end. Inconsistency is what makes Lebron a level below Jordan defensively. Unlike some Jordan fans I actually think they are relatively even on the offensive side of the ball.

MJ never took off on plays on both ends.. MJ played 100% on every play..

When the experts, players, and audience all say that Michael is best, take a hint. Its like talking to a flat earther.

I saw MJ played in real ⏲ . Problem is BRO your 🧠 just can't process what your eyes are seeing. MJ: 9X first team defense, DPOY, 1st among NBA guards alltime in blks, 3rd alltime in stls, 2X 100 blks & 200 stls in a season. LBJ spends a lot of ⏲ resting on defense. MJ didn't. He always played both ends of the court. Maybe watch MJ historic Bulls mixtape or MJ: Rare Voyager.

This ain't even a debate wann

I never understand that statement "I saw that before" is like, "so to be the best I should grew a third arm because you have never seen that before?" it has none sense that statement, in that regard, unique is not the best, newer is not best. Is just a way to defend something with pure feeling to me, to make that kind of statements. It's obvious that almost all the defensive and offensive plays has been done by someone in the past, because it's just how humanity works...

BossManWann keeps saying he's seen LeBron do those blocks on defense but the big difference is LeBron is 6'9 and long whereas Jordan is a 6'6 (really 6'4) shooting guard. Jordan is 2nd All Time Leader in Blocks (guards) and third all time leader in steals (the entire league not just guards) and the man is one of five players (LeBron ain't one) in the 75 year history of the NBA to win a League MVP AND Defensive Player of the Year IN THE SAME YEAR. And you're not impressed?

MJ has more steal per game than LBJ. Tell me if steal is not part of defense.

its always Michael Jordan, Lebron didn't even won Defensive Player of the Year and MJ lead his team 10x and so much more that Lebron wasn't able to accomplished during his 19 seasons while MJ did accomplished so much in just basically 11 healthy seasons.

“ mY oPiNiONs aRE fACtS “ 🤦🏻‍♂️ goofy ass 🤪😂

Jordan played better defense at 40 than Lebron played in his best defensive year🤣

A block looks like a block ...a steal looks like a steal....intercepted pass looks like an intercepted pass.... The difference between Michael Jordan and Lebron is, Michael Jordan played great defense every night and all game long! Lebron could play good defense all the time but he CHOOSES NOT TO! That is why Jordan is the GOAT! Jordan did not mind the hardwork he learned that from his COLLEGE COACH DEAN SMITH!

Why is this a question??? It looks easy because MJ is a master of misdirection in defense.he makes people think he's not in the play then uses his quickness to intercept the passing lane. In the post, he backs away in the perfect moment to steal the entry pass.and entry passes are not quick passes, it's a bit of a lobbed pass. Do you even play defense, man?