Why ACTION Cartoons Are DEAD (@RebelTaxi) 

KingClod Since the cycle is gonna start all over again, I can finally listen to my favorite anime and cartoons on radio with the whole family.

I worry about that too but I feel a bunch will come out and fail and we'll be left with about 3. Kinda like now how we only have 3 Video Game Consoles.

KingClod mine is free but it has so much ads playing between it you might as well watch television

+Kureisan28 To bad outside Ducktales and Starbuttefly, their cartoon sucks, especailly the Marvel one.

it doesn't help that Disney will pull all their Disney films (not sure about marvel or star wars, its complicated) from Netflix in 2 years to make their OWN streaming service... and also making three different kinds of them, THAT SURELY HELPS

Mr Life Not if you're in school. 6am was just about the time I woke up to head for elementary.

I think the weirdest part is lack of toys in the first place. Where's my Star Butterfly with light up want and Marco Diaz with karate chop action? (I do think Steven Universe is doing a good job advertising a see a lot of their stuff in blind boxes and pop figures at Hot Topic and FYE not merchandise I'll buy butt I'm sure someone loves it)

That mentality explains the Young Justice BS a few years ago: They cancelled it because "too many girls" were watching it. Either adapt or die.

That actually wasn't true. It was cancelled because the toy sales were extremely low.

Do kids these days even buy toys? They're more into videogames since they're more fun to play with lol. But anyways I agree, CN executives need to learn that toy sales aren't that important like it was over 30 years ago and just focus on their ratings for cartoons instead. Just look at Sym Bionic Titan for example. It was canceled because it couldn't sell any toys? Really?

NCHProductions heck,even some cartoon and anime had a singaporean dub.

oh do be thankful that its our "singaporean dub" and not the "americanized dub" we had dub yokai watch that kept all the japanese content in with zero censorship or edits. but then again, this has nothing to do with this video's topic though.

Another thing that supposedly causes a lot of issues for these sorts of series such as Symbionic Titan, was "lack of toy sales", yet I never ONCE in all my time watching TV when it and a number of other shows that were cancelled because of similar reasoning, saw a single freaking commercial advertising that these shows even HAD toys. It wasn't a lack of "interest" in buying toys for a lot of these shows, it was the company's utter failure at marketing their products outside of the series itself, and that's not even mentioning CN's failure to market Symbionic Titan and many of these other shows. When you screw with something's scheduling, never run re-runs, barely advertise that it exists, let alone what times it is on, and don't advertise that it has toys, it is GOING to fail. It's like the people at CN, and Disney, and many other companies don't realize this simple logic for some ungodly reason. If your target audience is kids, you have to ADVERTISE that you have toy products, otherwise you are relying strictly on the parents knowing what the kids like, or taking them shopping, or the parents allowing the kids to use devices and find these things themselves. It's putting ALL of your hopes for sales onto the backs of the parents, it is the KIDS you are trying to sell the toy to, the parents are the walking piggy banks that simply get to choose when money is spent. (Also, apology for the long rant, I've been sitting on this for weeks now and finally found a place to vent it.)

the CN think tank had being advising us to create a series that can integrate with other mediums easily, like interaction with smart phones, tablets, if your series can work with experimental mediums like VR, thats how they are seeing cartoons this days. one example of integration is the magiswords series where the thinktank told us how this interaction with "collecting swords" from your phone when u watch the cartoons was ground breaking for kids. its not the physical toys now, its all about integration with other digital platforms. thats why merchandising of series is kinda a second thought. the key now is integrating your series to mobile platforms as easily as possible. so yeah, we maybe entering a new age of digital entertainment... its going mobile.

That may be what they are doing now, but it still doesn't explain their idiocy years back with Sym-Bionic Titan, before they even tried to integrate mobile devices. They started trying to do that, what? 2 years ago now? Sym-Bionic Titan was airing in 2010-2011, 7 years ago. The reason it was canceled was because there were no toy properties created for it despite it having some of the highest ratings of any damn show CN has made in the last decade. A number of shows get killed off on purpose by executives, simply because they don't like the show, or like another show better. Hell, they even wrote if off in 2015, just showing how little the valued the show despite how well liked it was. I bet that if they had bothered to merchandise it in any way, they might have actually made a profit off the damn thing.

Wilfred Cthulu Don't you wanna rematch?

Its' "Don't you wanna rematch" not "don't you wanna play again". Your nostalgia made you a dumbass.

To be fair, he did say "something like 'Don't you wanna play again?'"

Osmosis Wright Bad day?

Double Feels Mode: at the end of the video he para-phrases the Toonami Final Broadcast

It's totally normal

RebelTaxi Ikr? I cry Emily's name every time and my parent shout at me to be quiet, they're trying to sleep

RebelTaxi That's normal, right?

Mystic Melody x

What do you mean was?

Jelly-filled are my favorite!

There was a Pokemon scene where they turned rice balls into a giant sub sandwich lmaaooo 😂

Vassilinia Yeah.... Were they being intentionally trollish when they made the sub roll on it's end? Because I feel like they were.

I tried looks my it up I guess they just didn't like rice balls

Fawkin love Brock's Jelly Donuts

LevelZeroSage 1 gravity falls didn't got cancelled

can you watch teen titans go thanks

Me too dude.

Don't you dare watch OK KO. I don't want it cancelled the first month it came on the air.

... Can't you start being at the consumer test runs of Michael Bay movies?

Darth Nigga

@@WeedShaggy Lando Calrissian?

That scene is a perfect representation of my life.

lol

@@TeamFriendship8600 lol

But I want to be the taser-swinging Storm Trooper

I want to be the guy who does Uncle Ruckus in Django Unchained.

Brainbot Jezebel *T R A I T O R ! ! !*

991yugioh Yeah samuel l jackson

Darth Nigga

Yee

RebelTaxi HI DAD

RebelTaxi hello

RebelTaxi you did the best you could

What could you title it?

Sam Vimes What I want to see come back more than anything is Sym-Bionic Titan!

problem these cartoons aren't marketable anymore, they're be on streaming media, Young Justice will do amazing on Netflix

I could easily see the Thundercats reboot on Netflix, it was very promising!

Aw man why did you have to remind me of how much I want the show back

Sam Vimes Well do I have some awful news for you then...were getting ANOTHER Thundercats reboot. And its basically Thundercats Go!

At least Loonatics Unleashed had an actual story. A shit story, granted, but a story none-the-less.

Salnax No CN's tyrants often ruined our beloved cartoon channel and it looks like CN is already at WW2 with TTG have dictatorship (similiar to Animal Farm) and all the viewers we're like victims. Yeah, TTG has basic stories with generic humors and mostly bad cartoon's secret weapon: Toilet Humor and Twerks. TTG have occasional reference of the original series such as 40% 40% 20%. Man this episode was like Finn from Star Wars or something.

Herman 111 With 3 god awful reboots

I loved it at the time!

@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah Actually, this comment was 2 years ago so I think TTG got redeemed after the movie and things have changed. So the hate bandwagon was completely outdated nowadays. I regret what I just saw afterwards. So basically, TTG was misunderstood as a "worst cartoon of all time" while being a parody to the show itself which it has nothing to do with the 2003 series.

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Im Dm That is the correct response to that comment.

PowahSlap Entertainmint why are you here

PowahSlap Entertainmint oh hey where else have i seen you?

Idk if that's a real episode but that sounds hilarious tbh. I'd watch it.

at least we got star vs the forces of evil and steven universe and toonami.

Brian Kent Pirrie i do like steven universe but that isnt really an action show

New Samurai Jak, Avatar the Last Airbender and Korra, Magnificent Ladybug, Star Vs. FOE, Pokemon (then they are battling), Young Justice (hope it'll continue eventually)? You also have anime (which are still cartoons) for that action fix; Princess Principal, Knight's and Magic, Boku no Hero Academia, Re:Creators, Fate/Apocrypha airing this season alone with another season starting in a month or so.

well learn to use google search and find them there's tons, you can watch Samuari Jack, Avatar, Star vs forces of evil, or you can just watch anime which usually shows tons hell Dragon ball came back

Me too

This was a different decade though I mean there’s a reason why Spider-Man or Batman franchises still going

Dat ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I HAVE HAD IT WITH MOTHER FUCKING SITH LORDS IN THIS MOTHER FUCKER SENATE!!

Dat the cool one

Dat That's weird. Who would want to be Janna the Hutt?

i also wanted to be the black guy from Star Wars when I was a kid.

On facts👌

Yeah

best prank ever.

Still people are still pissed

Completely agree.

Marius Urucu no argument there

Fall and War of Cybertron was better

Completely agree. And that music is absolutely awesome.

Marius Urucu Yep

yeah right!!!!!!!

Genome Soldat The animation was pretty good though

The new TMNT is fucking amazing. Have you seen that animation. Its so fucking stylized and pumping with action. It feels like motorcity holy shit.

tank butt the animation is choppy and the fight scenes are almost impossible to focus on

@@Mrenderboyo2 a year ago people lost interest the show as it got cancelled

But compared to Sym-Bionic Titan... they were made by the same guy. Unless something else went wrong.

Tax write off, there ya go.

what do you mean by tax write off? what does that mean?

Meaning a company can sell their property to a government so they can get a tax break from it. Like CN sold off Sym-Bonic and now the US Government owns it.

Okay, I'm already aware of the W.O. situation with SBT (btw, has any other network tried this before with their shows?), but what I'm trying to say is how come SBT strictly needed a toyline to be successful while Sam Jack did not?

The mishandling of Tron as a franchise overall makes me sad. I do hope that they decide to revisit it someday.

Star Wars Fall, TRON LIVES

I miss that show too.

Saturday morning cartoon block died on its own regardless of anime or not.

It was parents that complained kids were not learning enough from schools and got the feds to force every non-cable channel to make every Saturday morning block to be about propaganda or some sort. I remember that last of them known as Vortexx was shut down because they wanted to do "One Magnificent Morning" and of course, no one watched.

but who the fuck give a fuck about school about that much, One Magnificent Morning is a teaching channel like pbs kids/pbs but fail in comparing

Ultralocothedragon Why not just make your kids watch PBS if they want education?

Ultralocothedragon that's why every weekend morning we get boring shit on abc nbc and cbs

*go

isitbroke they are going to rerun the OG Teen Titans.

isitbroke nah man, I watch it every day now

id prefer new episodes. even if based off the those teen titan animated movies.

Dat im not in us so watching on phone because i never did when it aired it really deserves a season 6

And it aired in India only around the same time, 2001. So...... yeah... non-USA countries really got the shortest end of the stick from anime.

For the longest time, yeah...

Dragon Ball came to Brazil in 1996 and Dragon Ball Z in 1999

I was watching it in the early mornings... long before toonami...

That's cuz you lived closer to big ol' Papa America.

ironmaster64 am not getting up at 7 to watch a show

ironmaster64 No one wakes up at 7am anymore

ironmaster64 Justice league action is actually a really good show but it sucks that it only airs on saturdays at 7 am with no reruns.

+Eignasor Melendez Another reason why CN needs to fix their schedule completely.

Eignasor Melendez and that it is only 11 mins an episode. CN is obsessed with 11 min cartoons.

SuicideKing Hell yeah! Jetix was awesome!

SuicideKing toonami 2.0.

SuicideKing Yep! One of the shows I used to watch on their was oban star racers, which is getting a sequel/prequel :)

Jetix, Fox Box, Toonami, Miguzi, Boomeraction, Adult Swim's "Actn" - all that shit.

Super robot monkey team hyper force go, hell yeah.

Miguzi was the shit as a kid.

King of the Swamp Same. I would watch that block with my sister quite often.

King of the Swamp I also remember it too.

Meguzi sucked

I mean if it makes money Disney cares for that

Badlittleboy1003v AJ trust me. In the 2010s we had that 90s Cartoon comedy wave and I feel like our generation ( the ones part of the 2000s action era) will give it a comeback in the 2020s when the majority of us we'll be in the animation industry by then.

Hopefully things look up Because some of us (*cough* me) are too poor to use streaming services

Go independent? Lots of cartoons are self-published now too and do web series like rwby

Pitch to Netflix or Amazon, then. They tend to be more experimental when it comes to cartoons.

Same boiii!!! Whatup XD (yeah am in the same situation here so maybe if I where to pitch it off for just adult it could help? Maybe? Idk?

Screen name, pic, and comment match up too well.

The Real Delphox 616 Actually​ i believe if we didn't have 4kids anime would not be as popular as it is today. Someone needed to introduce us to One Piece and Shaman King

Wait how is it their fault?

Chibi Prussia One Word: POKEMON!

But they brought Jelly doughnuts to the west it can't be their fault

Lol

What they are missing from this business model is one thing that entails all entertainment: heart. Without heart, passion, I find that you just cannot form an identity as a business, especially when making a cartoon show for kids. Yes, money is a major issue, but would it matter in the long run? The creators of our fav 80s, 90s and early 00s shows still have reputation to this day and they deserve our respect and support 100%. It all comes down to one thing- you reap what you sow, and only a dumbass MBA exec will think that money is the only thing that he needs to sow.

Rhaynebow well that's an interesting point you made with the flash animation software, seriously now every freaking cartoon use flash animation and sadly just a few people use it well

I thought that would be the first thing to come up! I really want to like all these creative new cartoons coming out, but I can't help thinking that they all just look cheap and easy... Like if you do a quirky cartoony show amid a variety of other types, it's refreshing. But when every show is going for "quirky cartoony", it just tells me that this is all they can afford.

Dokemon Studios i saw netflix is making dvds now for daredevil, so they could be possibly marketing in physical distribution soon

Dokemon Studios now

Dokemon Studios now he tells us.

Well until disc rot comes into play or from what I've heard if you keep the disc in good condition, it could last up to 200 years...at least from what I've heard....but to me that's fine. I mean everything is going rot and disappear one day. I mean even if you say get something digital and put it on a hard drive, sometime down the line that stuff i no longer going to be usable and the data will be corrupted anyways. I mean nothing will last forever...so might as well stick to physical, so that way at least for there amount of time that you have it, you can at least enjoy it whenever you want without relying on an internet connection...

The thing is, the main reason why streaming is the future is because regular TV's animated content has deteriorated to the point where streaming is simply a better alternative. I mean, why ensure 17 episodes of the same garbage cartoon in a row, when you can just stream shows you actually want to watch online with a simple, quick internet search? It's purely the result of the alternative being so much worse to the point where it's no longer a sensible option.

I've only seen a single clip but it looks really cool.

i think its good, but its biggest misfire was its time slot, due to the fact that they only air this including transformers on mornings instead of the afternoons are idiotic, they think that audiences can wake up early to watch these shows and that they don't know that times have changed hell even star wars rebels air at night times what I'm saying is that cartoon network has to change there varieties if not its there loss

Titans JoJo yeah and it has Kevin Conroy voice Batman you know it's a good show or movie (Not the Killing Joke) when Kevin Conroy voices batman

I thought CN was the ones to air it but i have yet to see it actually on TV... the series is cheesy but still actiony and fun. my main gripe is the fact that they recycle villians so quickly sometimes, like the time they clobbered brainiac only to have him return the very next episode no worse for wear...

Well the action is great, but even with Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to play Batman and Joker, the genre has changed. I looked into this before and most reviewers agreed on the following: They're not aiming for older audiences anymore so the plots of episodes are fairly simple and linear. It's good for action, but don't expect Justice League: Unlimited level plots, character development, or themes. Just don't mistake it for the next JLU, Batman TAS, or even Teen Titans. It's clearly for younger audiences but it's still good though, expecially compared to most other shows airing right now.

Shockwave same tbh.

Shockwave Say what you want about the movies, but you have to remember that without them, Transformers Animated and Prime probably wouldn't have existed. Heck, the entire Transformers franchise might not have become as overwhelmingly popular as it is nowadays.

Doodleboy 565 I refuse to owe any of TFP and TFAs hard work and amazing content to.. MICHAEL BAY..

Shockwave Again, I think the movies are atrocious too (well, except maybe the first one), but facts are facts. You can obviously tell there were some elements of Transformers Prime that were directly inspired by the movies i.e. Bumblebee's inability to speak and the more serious tone. Plus, most of the writers from the first movie left to create it, so you can't deny the connection there.

Shockwave Totally agreed. We need an animated movie of More than Meets the Eye.

Now a days you can binge watch stuff on streaming but you can still use Blu-ray/dvd

Paralyzed Horse I was just gonna mention that. All of the DC Animated Universe shows by Bruce Timm (Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Batman Beyond, Static Shock, Justice League, JL Unlimited) were critical and commercial successes. It goes to show that action cartoons can still work, but businesses are too reluctant to give them a try anymore.

I found it extremely odd that he didn't mention any of those shows considering they were the ones that HEAVILY contributed to the action cartoon legacy. Man of action and Bruce Timm have done wonders for the animation community

wdcain1 Beware the Batman was cancelled due to the timing of Young Justice’s cancellation causing all the cry babies to think it was chosen over there show.

True

Interesting to know

God left.

God is dead and we have killed him.

General Soto Fitting profile pic for that comment

Understandable, there was a lot of sexual tension between her and Gene.

Like, how?

or shit like Apple and Onion

Or s##t like the loud house

ngl The Loud House isn't THAT bad

Jules Weiss its watchable but still is a bad show mainly because of the annoying a#s sisters and the corny jokes and that s##tty ‘’sad’’ music The only thing i like is that they actually show blood, why they can show blood in a ‘’comedy’’ cartoon but not an action cartoon is stupid but better than nothing

@@Mrenderboyo2 I agree that show is horrible

Toonami has always struggled since the birth of online streaming

Artydomi agreed the days of watching DBZ on cartoon network are long gone

Artydomi this

I think its great streaming sites have become the norm and that some of them are producing content

You forgot that they shove ads up your ass. One ad every couple of minutes is irritating.

How is streaming complicated? You sign up for a service and then you pick what you want to watch. Most TVs today come with a smarthub to play those services on. Streaming isn't going away for awhile because people enjoy it more. Creators find it easier to make story driven television, and people find that they can watch it on their own schedule. I don't want television to die either, but some executives are stuck in the past and don't accept that times have changed.

Well Adron Duell if you must know, the reason why I said that streaming is complicated is cause like I said before it's just something that I'm not really used to. But don't get me wrong, I understand how fun and easy is to use. My point is that it's not something that I would do often. Mainly cause I don't have any streaming services like Netflix or Hulu on my tv. That's why every time whenever I hear someone say that streaming is the future of entertainment, well that scars me. Because as of now I don't think it has what it takes to fill that spot. Yeah streaming may be fun, profitable, and easier for tv executives these days. But try to you to understand that not everyone has the luxury of steaming shows on television. And that all they have is just regular cable tv to watch. I mean hey you would be surprised by some of the people out there that still watch tv the old fashion way instead of new. Basically what I'm saying here is that I feel like we have it too easy these days with tv entertainment. And that streaming is just a rich people enjoyment kinda thing. And that's another thing, streaming doesn't come cheap regardless if it's free to use on various devices. You would still have to pay for your free trail in order to use streaming apps like Netflix and Hulu. And who knows what the price is like on those apps. What $10 or $11.00 a month!?!

Streaming is definitely not a "rich people enjoyment thing". Netflix starts at 9 bucks a month. That's like... 4 cups of coffee. Hulu starts at 8, Amazon Prime at 6. I guess it really depends on your internet connection. Where I live (Central EU), access to Internet is relatively fast and cheap; I pay about $20 for it every month (including the most basic cable and landline).

Streaming isn't hard at all. If you're able to use youtube just fine, you can handle Netflix. And it's SUPER convenient! I can come home from work, start watching a show from wherever I left off on my TV, switch to my PC if someone wants to watch something else, and when I'm ready, I can switch to watching it on my phone in the bathroom or something, or while in bed. Literally, if something has a screen, or can be plugged into a screen, it probably has access to Netflix.

more expensive than cable? Geez dude, where do you live?

Yeah that's mostly a CN issue for the most part. Other networks, though not perfect, have handled that kind of stuff a bit better in comparison.

Watch glitch techs on Netflix its a great action cartoon. That needs your support.

@@noahbossier1131 oh I definitely did that .

@@BugsyFoga thanks, please tell all your friends about it.

Well it got cancelled

Exactly

He really should take the time outta his day and watch em

In some cases, shows that are both (Castlevania).

Lol

This was the thing that had me groaning about WiR2. They're shoving Star Wars and Marvel into the movie when it doesn't need to be there. We already get surrounded by those brands ENOUGH so why the fuck do we need to see it in WiR, especially when even if the movie did have ACTUAL games series the most focus was put on the games that Disney MADE UP. This feels like a massive commercial for Marvel and SW than something that's supposed to be the continuing story of WiR.

They go to different apps which include Make Mine Marvel and the Disney Princesses are being guarded by Storm Troopers and C3PO for some reason. It's....it's just too much and is so unneeded.

Hallo George Lucas sold the Star Wars rights to Disney for 4 billion dollars.

don't forget Han solo movie, but that's Disney for you milk the fuck out of something, Frozen anyone?

THE Solo Han Solo movie, that apparently has a lot of problems, and Chris miller and Phil lord left or got fired, who I like, but like with Edgar wright, you don't do exactly what Disney wants...can't wait for the solo prequel coming of age padme amidala movie

With so much potential but underappreciated by Disney

derpy quagsire same. It's a shame it didn't get a 4th season.

distinctive Koopa There was so much planned for a fourth season, including a Beast Wars episode. We could've had it all

Chaotic Neutral talk about wasted potential.

Uh, sir, did you mean nudity and _jelly donuts_

Lol 😂 that’s usually most Japanese anime

Synth Curie Full of rice balls?

Synth Curie sure, what's it called

*Jelly filled donuts

And calarts style? Your show sounds cancerous

I'm not kidding I'm actually exited but I won't get my hopes too high

As someone who watched Inuyasha when it very first started airing I had to wait a whole hell of a lot longer than a week. It being concluded in a differently named anime years later also didnt help one bit lol

It’s darker and grittier, but it’s still very stylized.

Shirts, statues, and games are good examples. Except at least with games not every franchise can be properly translated into a video game format.

That’s how life is though

Damn this comment was a year old

Ahh Camp Camp..Boy does its artstyle deceive you into thinking its a kids show.

The Rooster Teeth show?