Why Apple's Mouse Charges From The Bottom 

I love most Apple products. But I borrowed someone’s magic mouse for 5 minutes and knew I would never get one. It’s ridiculously uncomfortable to use

Now that is a valid complaint. They're far too slim for my liking.

well i have one, and i love it.

@@gcflowers86 Same here. I didn't really like it at first, but after getting used to the MagicMouse I find other mice too bulky for my liking.

It is all down to personal preference.

The fuck ????

@@Lehsah2021 ???

coment i was looking for in 10 videos!

true lol

Exactly

I think it's still about practicality on Apple's side that they don't need to update tooling for an accessory. No updates on design, less money spent, more profit.

I think it provides the benefit of a port that is less likely to get stuff in it because its placed vertically vs horizontally. Thats in addition to the aesthetic point. Either way its a none issue because it can charge quickly and and last a while

@@chidorirasenganz charge last but batteries sometimes don’t. So that’s what I believe they’re saying.

@@jaylensmith6308 even with battery degradation, you still get a decent charge in a few minutes. Heck you could just charge it overnight and always have battery to spare

As the first reply said: Apple saw no need to redesign the mouse, literally less money to come out of their pockets.

Yeah, Apple just doesn't want 'peasants' who can't just buy a new apple mouse out of their pocket money using their products. Hurts their premium brand image.

Maybe that's one of the REAL reasons why Apple put the charging port on the bottom - to compel people to buy another one if the battery ever stopped holding a charge. More money for Apple that way. Sneaky.

Doesn't that completely defeats the purpose of buying a wireless mouse in the first place? I have a wireless gaming mouse because I didn't want to keep it plugged in during use. If I have to keep a wireless mouse plugged in all the time, I would have just bought a wired mouse in the first place.

@@tomackerman4089 Half in one hand half the other. Yes it's not why you bought the mouse but when the battery get's to eol which for most wireless mice i've used is around 2.5-3 years You need to either be topping it up constantly to use the thing or just have it plugged in as behavior starts to get wild or unresponsive. Really it's a stop gap solution till you can either afford a new mouse or fix it yourself.

“You can’t just use it as a wireless mouse” then just get a wired mouse? I don’t understand the objection

Wow, good thought

But tim cook sucks compared to Jobs, Steve Jobs would be pissed of with the Removal of the Headphone jack, the iPhone 5c, iOS 7 design, siri, the 700$ mac pro wheels and the 1000$ monitor.

​@@LennyQUMFIF Are we sure?

@@LennyQUMFIF did you work with him to know all of that?

@@LennyQUMFIF Hey, The IPhone 5c was great it did a lot of good to me and I hope they bring back its design, also Steve jobs wouldn't have hated it, he would be unpleased by it but eventually would have removed it when the IPhone x was launched.

Yeah I agree. Do you like his new format?

I think its getting to more 'irrelevant questions'

@@WarriorsPhoto yes

Inresting*

@@WarriorsPhoto idk but I love it

G.E.T. L.O.S.T.

@@telsonthomas6942 had your feelings hurt? Lol

I don't think explaining why something is the way it is is what makes the channel bad, it's more like using the explanation as a valid reason to excuse a flaw.

@@anecro He said complaints are from the users who don't even use this product....this is sheep mentality right there..

Found the apple engineer

I actually have a guess of why Maybe they didn’t assume people would try to use it while it was charging and decided to save power by disabling it. Also I ruined my nice old gaming laptop by always using it while charging for turbo mode. It literally doesn’t last 1-7 seconds unplugged and even if you plug it in immediately after turning it on it still shuts down.

Not to mention it is a lightning connector!! It is already bad to have it on the iPhone but on a mouse that you use on a computer that only has USB C ports. That mouse is the worst product apple has on sale right now.

You might think that it got worse but there's no way battery got any worse since new.

@@dkdanis1340 you may want to read about degradation of Li ion Batteries.

@@dkdanis1340 Lithium ion cells degrade over time

I'm still using the AA version of the mouse and I keep several rechargeable AA batteries so I can swap them out; the best of both worlds.

I’d be more than happy if it had usb-c port

where would it be charged? a mouse pad? that would make people upset and it is easier to just have a charging cable.

@@augustogalindo8687 on the front, not the bottom?

I bet the next version is MagSafe. They’re looking to change everything to wireless right now so it makes sense.

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So you might have to take a 2 minute break like twice a year if you forget to charge your mouse for months at a time and ignore the low battery warnings? OH THE HUMANITY!

@@BixbyConsequence its still a fucking premium product and the idea of not being able to use it while its charging is ridiculous lmao its not about that you can leave it in for 2 minutes its about the fact that its poorly designed at the cost of end users especially from such a huge company as apple, they have the money and the design team to put it somewhere else

@@BixbyConsequence apple employee spotted

@@BixbyConsequence Ahh yes, '2 minute break twice a year' when a 2 minute charge only lasts 9 hours at best. It takes 2 hours to charge to full and a full charge only lasts 6 months of moderate usage but yes, lets ignore a stupid design decision just because it doesn't happen frequently. After the initial redesign it would cost them literally nothing to put the charging port on the side like every other wireless mouse on the market. Not like the mouse laying on its side puts additional strain on the charging cable and causes it to break faster or anything, you know, the $20 custom charging cable that apple only sells unlike every other wireless device using a standard usb cable so if it breaks you just use one of those like your wireless headphone cable, your phone charging cable, wireless speaker cable, alarm clock cable. Nope, if the cable breaks you're stuck until you go to the store and spend $20 on a single wire, totally not a cash grab. Let's put the charging port on the back of the phone too so you have to awkwardly hold it if you decide to use it when charging, wouldn't want people using a wired phone... God forbid anyone have the option to turn it into a wired device if they don't want to deal with the hassle of charging it anymore, totally didn't make it like that so you're forced to buy a new mouse if you actually want a wired one cause apple totally doesn't milk their customers. Next you'll be buying bluetooth headphones/earbuds where the charging cable would stick in your ear when you try to use it, god forbid anyone have the choice to turn their device back into a wired one like every other wireless mouse on the market. You gonna buy a car where the gas door is on the bottom which forces you to flip the car over or slide under it too? Not like you have to fill gas all that often right... You crapple fanboys are so quick to defend obvious design flaws, the mouse wasn't even designed to stand on the side or upside down so you just have an awkward teeter totter, you gonna get some water glasses where the bottom is curved too so your cup just spills whenever you let it go? You only have to hold the glass for a couple minutes while you drink it right... Y'all are the biggest cult in the world but part of being is a cult is not realizing you're in a cult so enjoy your cult I guess. 🤷‍♂

​@@DrakeOola >ONLY lasts 6 months lmao Salty much

And just because we don't use it does not mean our opinions on it are valueless. From an ergonomics viewpoint, we generally know what works and what doesn't, and well... Magic Mouse ain't it... and from a usability perspective, just where it the charging port is tells me everything I need to know about what Apple was thinking about when designing it... Prioritizing form over function gets you pure garbage nine times out ten.

Please if you can’t deal with having to charge a mouse overnight once every couple of months then perhaps you just shouldn’t have a wireless mouse at all it’s really not that hard people will complain about anything

@@aaronlimitless no, that's just stupid without counting the fact that the mouse is uncomfortable to use in the first place.

@@Kazuny But here’s a wonderful thing if it’s uncomfortable you don’t like it don’t use it there are literally thousands of other mice you can buy Not hard I don’t know why people like you seem to think when you come up with an opinion that that’s everybody else’s opinion because it’s not if it doesn’t work for you get something else it’s not hard companies are going to build something that is going to be comfortable in that most people will use not just pay this guy doesn’t like this way so let’s build a completely his way not how it works

@@aaronlimitless just open your eyes. I'm obviously not the only one that thinks that. Also.the charging port isn't an opinion, that's just a fact. A mouse you can use while charging is objectively better than one that can't. People have a right to complain about shit that doesn't make sense and they should. Of course they're not gonna change things for a specific customer needs but if there are more customers that want that one feature or problem solved how is apple supposed to know if people don't complain? What we should just act as if a flawed product is perfect and expect it to be fixed magically? That's just dumb.

@@Kazuny because a whole bunch of people complain doesn’t mean that it’s a flawed product or let alone an issue no matter what product you make if it is sold by the millions they are going to be people that complain simple as that. It has never been an issue using the mouse and I use my iMac for about 3 to 5 hours every single day seven days a week and it’s never been a problem if it was a big enough of a problem it would be changed hence why it still is here years later people will complain about anything. Again if you don’t like it BUY A DIFFERENT MOUSE PROBLEM SOLVED!

Hahahahahahahaha

_”Why? Why would you do that, why would you do that I don’t understand.”_

Dude, just charge the mouse overnight and your work will never be impeded. Why search for issues that don’t exist?

@@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459 leaving a lithium battery plugged overnight is kinda sus my dude

“These complaints are coming from people who don’t even use the product in the first place.” Your point about it being awkward to charge? It’s two minutes, not a big deal? lol

@@benjiforster5531 The issue comes up rarely and it's a minor issue, yes, but it's still unnecessarily and objectively awkward. The point is that it's unnecessary and nothing else.

@@Isopropyl_Alcohol I get your point it can be unnecessary, but then again what’s the point of changing a design that works? “Don’t fix something that isn’t broken.”

@@benjiforster5531 That mentality is what caused the 737 MAX to crash repeatedly.

But you don’t charge it that much. That’s why is not a big deal! I have the Magic Mouse, for like 6 months now. I’m a designer and I use it daily. I’m not lying when I tell you that I have charged it exactly 5 times. No more than that. It could,ve been just 4 but I like to charge it when I notice that is running low. Believe me that using the mouse the last thing to worry about is the charging

not really. many people do so

No. Same reason it’s not bad to leave your MacBook plugged in.

Most likely not, but I have an friend with an iPad Pro (2019) and an an Apple Pencil 2.gen. His iPad has now black dots and and an bump where the Apple Pencil was holding.same with the Apple Pencil.

@@tapferer1kater34 i have the same iPad and pencil - had it 2 years and always kept the pencil on the iPad - no problems at all:)

@@willpackham4575 well, I also think it is not an common problem, he most likely just have no luck,but… it i know it is true(I have seen it)

im presenting to you..... cables no need to charge, and lasts surely more than the mouse itself

To be fair, the video’s right. The same would happen if batteries died. It’s the downside to running anything on batteries- they’ll die at the most inconvenient time. Although, I think the first part of the video is 100% why Apple put the port on the bottom- they don’t want people using it wired.

@@FatAlbert1020 Lol no it's not the same.

@@lorzo2 Lol. Why charge everyday? If you charge the Magic Mouse for a night, you can use it for at least 6 months

Can you atleast use other wireless mouse with usb wifi receiver?

@@lorzo2 my battery is currently down to 12 % and i honestly can't remember the last time I charged it, but i use my computer each day for at least 10hours. So, no it doesn't last only 2 days and unless the Mac informs me that my battery is below 5% i don't even really consider charging it, and even than i would finish my working day :)

The point is it might not last as long under very extreme conditions but in general if you plug the mouse in for example every month let’s just say you should never ever have an issue with not being able to get through a full work session even if it’s like let’s say at 12 hours straight work session same with the Apple Pencil you should be able to forget to put it back on your iPad for a week and still have juice left if you need to use it which with Apple products that is very true it is very rare that I actually have any of those devices dead and if so it’s because I haven’t touch the pencil in three months it hasn’t been attached and I used it or something otherwise I’ve never had an issue I want to twice the mouse was dead and I just flip it over plugged it in went to grab something to drink or eat came back in 10 minutes and was able to get through my three or 4 hour session no problem before I was done with it for the day and let it charge overnight literally is never an issue people will just complain to complain every product has a downfall regular batteries you have to make sure you always have them in stock and then take them out swap them out etc. sure might give you a Instagram vacation but you’re still gonna have to change them and make sure you’re always stocked up on hand wired again never have to charge it but aesthetically not as pleasing to the eye for most etc.

And what about the other way around? Do Apple people also use other companies tech that they’re criticizing? I always see people switching from 200€ android phones to 1.000€ iPhones, telling everybody that iPhones are soooo much better, however they never tried 1.000€ android phones. Same with laptops. Going from 400€ Acer notebooks to 2000€ MacBooks. However they should compare their 2000€ MacBook with a 2000€ surface laptop instead.

@@aid0nex No since they can be the other way round, like android is cheaper and bla bla bla apple devices are soooo expensive, that is just how people think and you can’t deny nor control it.

@@aid0nex fun fact The cheapest apple phone has more power than the best android phone Edit: i don’t use apple i have an android, but you have to respect apples top notch quality

Even as an apple fan I think this charging method is stupid.

@@KarenTookTheKids Haha that's what a Karen would say

This is an old comment but I bought an iMac in 2015 and was given the choice of a wired mouse, which I went for because I didn't want to need to charge my mouse in the middle of work

Mouse lovers hate it tho, very few people use it often without getting carpal tunnel syndrome. only people using it are those who dont wanna spend money on a normal or vertical mouse

This explanation is why people look at you in disgust when popping open a Mac in public. They assure you are a shit eating sheep that will bend every narrative to fit their cosmos. That's my love hate with Apple. I love a lot of their producs, but their assumptions on how to use them is just blatantly arrogant sometimes.

@@HoJSimpson 99% of people don’t give a fuck about any of this shit. The other 1% are tech heads and weirdos like u in yt comment sections acting like apple is some sort of radical ideology

i know its a joke, but trackpad

Lesson learned: don't buy a mac until they fix it or do your work earlier.

I like that idea but that would be an extra device sitting on top of your desk, Apple always strives for simplicity and cleanliness. I love my magic mouse and I don't see a problem leaving it charging overnight.

@@ecu8r Having a mouse upside down on my desk with a cable getting out of its guts is the most "non apple" and "non clean" thing I can think of, even if it happens overnight :D

@@ecu8r simplicity? Apple is the same company that uses type c in their tablets and laptops but uses proprietary charing port for their phones which is more fragile than type C. Are you sure? Wouldn't a company want to cause their customers as little inconvenience as possible by allowing them to having carry just one cable for charging all their devices.

And that's why Apple put the charge port on the bottom

Greg is the new Steve

Yeah, leave it to Steve Jobs to make excuses for their idiotic design decisions.

@@wta1518 LOL. Well, there's always idiotic decisions even in the best of products, it's almost impossible to make a 'perfect product' that's perfect for every customer. Sharing the thinking about design decisions really helps understand and choose whether the product is right for you :)

@@anubhav9000 or you can have fucking common sense to not have the port on the bottom. But given that you're an apple user it's natural that your brain isn't working at all

That's not true for Lithium batteries, particularly ones not exposed to heat that could shorten their lifespan further at full charge. It's far more damaging to Lithium batteries to actually run them constantly through charge / discharge cycles than to keep them topped up at room temperature (or a bit higher given hand temperature). That and Apple could always afford capping charging at less than 100% (e.g. 85%) if that were such an issue, given they already last for months on end according to users. Now for a product of this caliber the number of charge / discharge cycles it goes through may be relatively little so the balance might tip in favor of keeping charge at lesser values on average but I'm tackling the general idea here.

Interesting, I wonder if that thought actually contributed to this design choice?

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read, and I watched this video with subtitles on.

@@orvvro It most probably did. They couldn’t make a different lightning connecter for the mouse because some people would still use their iPhone’s connector (if they lost the mouse’s wire or it stops working) which isn’t tearproof. It’s obvious that they deliberately made it so that people don’t use it when plugged in. It’s been so many years and there’s also been another iteration since (magic mouse 3). They didn’t just leave it as is because they didn’t feel like redesigning. It would take minimal effort to redesign something that simple.

You don’t charge the mouse with the cable coming from the ceiling. There’s a slight bend to it which wears it down as well.

They could do (magnetic) swappable batteries so you could take it out to charge it, and clip the other one in. That would be kinda magic not gonna lie.

Please for the love of God don't keep the lightning port. Their charging ecosystem is already bad enough

You would think they would put that as a major selling feature on the box. If they did that, it would've elminated A LOT of the confusion everyone has for the port.

They know what the solution is. They just want you to buy another one as backup and keep buying new ones when the battery degrades, since you can't use it wired as a last resource.

@@josephs3973 apple wouldn’t do that. Honestly look at the magic keyboard, though this cheese wouldn’t work well in a keyboard

Well, the fact that the charging position doesn't matter cause it lasted for like months

@@jackverstraate I got magic and Logitech m720 I prefer the 720 over magic

@@jackverstraate I’ve heard just the opposite from most people and how the magic mouse is shit

@@jackverstraate I have a Magic Mouse, Magic Trackpad and a few gaming mice (Razer Viper, Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight, Razer Viper Mini, Logitech G203, Logitech G Pro, to name a few). The Magic Mouse consistently provided the worst Mac experience of all, while the Magic Trackpad was the best (mostly because it can side scroll and allow for gestures just like the Magic Mouse, without any of the pitfalls it provides)

The glossy part that you touch curves all the way over the edge and there is physically no space to place a port there, and they likely didn’t want to spend the r&d on fully redesigning the mouse. I know, a strange decision and I also don’t love using this mouse in the first place as I much prefer a trackpad or an actual mouse, not this weird hybrid, but the charging port thing is really such an odd bone to pick when it really doesn’t matter at all given how quickly it charges and there are a million more important criticisms of this mouse than that non issue.

Huh! I noticed this too!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought it was just my settings

Same. I had to use a regular Logitech mouse. 🤦🏻‍♂️

How DARE you criticize this immaculate piece of engineering? The problem is obviously that your hand is not longer worthy of holding this mouse.

@@nicoful86 😂😂😂

Although he’s probably a fan of the company, he doesn’t seem to put many personal opinions in his videos. He presents the facts and let’s you decide what to make of it. People do the exact same things for other companies.

The maximum capacity of the battery will degrade, recharge will not. Lets say the battery capacity falls from 100% to 60%, after 5 years. Full battery of those mice lasted for 30 days, so even with a degrated battery you can still charge it for 2 mins and get 9 hours. A degrated battery has nothing to with the 2 min charge.A degrated battery does not cause issues with the charging time to the current battery capacity level. A degrated battery will only lower battery life.

Yeah but like you can just charge it when you are sleeping.

@@crosstr15 You can also just charge it when you are sleeping with a mouse that has the port in a sane place. It's objectively a worse design.

Finally someone tht agree with me 👍

Hit the nail on the head

Yeah, not true. I've used the magic mouse, and it is the most inconvenient and badly designed mouse I have ever used.

@@Paulygon Yeah, but with a mouse with removable batteries it takes 2 minutes to find a AA battery, and you only have to do that ever 365 days or so.

@@Paulygon It's almost as if I wasn't talking about a Magic Mouse.

I wouldn't buy a device that could be made useless to me for even a couple minutes. Also, it's a terrible design for my hands. Would just be constant cramping.

I don’t use a Mac, but I have used the Magic Mouse before. I agree. They’re way too flat for my liking.

Indeed. It was designed for people with finger tip grip style, not very comfy for other grip style and the gloss surface makes multi finger gestures difficult as a result because there is no way to keep the mouse in place with thumb and pinky while performing these gestures. Its clearly form over function.

Wrong, Apple always puts function over form. Just look at the original iMac mouse from 1998. That's ergonomic perfection.

This channel always finds a justification for apples bad buisness practices and design flaws

@@craigjensen6853 So … what is the function of the Magic Mouse? How does the devices form factor improve on this function?

Exactly! haters will always look for small things to put Apple down but the fact is the mouse stays on several days. I still use my battery swappable magic mouse that came with my iMac 2013, I bought extra batteries and keep them charged all the time. Do people really complicate their lives this much?

@@ecu8r Yes some people do. I used to be one ☝️ of them BTW. Now I’ve realized how simple Apple does make things. 2013? You still using that iMac 🖥?

@@WarriorsPhoto Yes sir, I bought it refurbished in 2015, opened it up and upgraded to SSD 1TB drive and still works great. I'm waiting to see what Apple will have in 2022 to replace the 27" iMac and saving up for it.

@@ecu8r That’s what I call respect ✊. Getting the most out of your PC and upgrading it to make sure of it. Good luck 👍🍀 with your next purchase. (:

Exactly! When you use the Magic Mouse the LAST thing you think or worry about is charging.

Factual 💯🙏

What about homework due in just 1 minute? Or important work.

@@LennyQUMFIF Did you know that we have the technology to warn people a while in advance that their device is low on battery? Of all the apple products it's the one you have to charge the least often and charges the fastest. If it fails on you at an important time it's entirely your fault.

@@DJVLDN but its still inconvenient. That's why i prefer AA because they get swapped quickly.

Simple, be a gamer. You need the mouse all the time and with more than a 1 button mouse. I understand a 1 button mouse for reading documents and programmers, butt us gamers, nope. I'm a fan of tons of other "I - products" but never the 1 button mouse.

@@hendrikmoons8218 facts.

oh wait I don't need to imagine

Or just use a more durable port like USB C

Poor old lightning cable can't handle typical daily tear and wear. Classic Apple.

I mean it's poor design. I can see why people are angry.

@@champion1859 It's not healthy to be angry about the design of a product you don't use. It's the last point of the video and I can confirm it's the case because if you read any reddit thread about it, it's painfully obvious that they don't know anything about how the mouse works, how long it lasts, how fast it charges and whether or not you're warned about it being low on battery. It's just a circlejerk like hating pineapple on pizza or the word "moist".

@@DJVLDN fair enough

Rechargeable AAs are seriously underrated. Like, good ones can last well up to a decade with basically no capacity drop and are pretty recyclable when they finally die.

@@HotdogNoire exactly my friend and they are super cheap! Just buy multiples and swap out when Charging!

What about White? 

@@HotdogNoire that's why i prefer xbox over PS and Wii over switch!

@@LennyQUMFIF yeah, I have really old Xbox controllers that are still going strong. But PS3/4 controllers that are on the brink of death because of the crappy built in batteries :/

charging port is also in a prime place to collect grit