Why are Bonds so Expensive Now in Oldschool Runescape?

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The bond in oldschool has been out of control lately. Sure historically the price of bonds goes up over time but this year alone its gone up over 8 million gold. Today we are going to diving in to the specifics of what is happening. What is causing this level of gold inflation in osrs, and how expensive will bonds be in the future.
Were also going to be covering all of the biggest price changes this month. Thanks to upcoming updates like the project rebalance and varlamore part 2, there is a lot to talk about this month.
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@FlippingOldschool 4 месяца назад

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@Pidbullz 4 месяца назад

Just need GE to accept platinum tokens and expand beyond max cash limit that way, keep the gp limit as a fun old thing

@charlesdai6611 4 месяца назад

The same thing happened to the price of bonds in rs3. I think it is the shortage of players buying bonds with real world money. Supply shortages.

@charlesdai6611 4 месяца назад

Also rs3 has no reachable gp limit now. It is like quintillion.

@Ilikeanail 4 месяца назад

Clearly it's bidenomics

@miciso666 4 месяца назад

did u forgot plat tokens exist? u complain bout max cash being 2.147b. but completely forget plat tokens exist for this exact purpose.

@spstange 4 месяца назад

IRL currencies are just being devalued. Recommend ppl move their money into OSRS gold as a hedge!

@charlesbrown4483 4 месяца назад

Unironically people were doing this during crashes in the early days of crypto.

@andrewevans7992 4 месяца назад

@@charlesbrown4483people still do it, including myself

@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 4 месяца назад

Venezuelans taking notes 😂😅

@aaronyonny2139 4 месяца назад

Usd is like fallout bottlecaps. Worthless but the trust and agreement says its value. They killed JFK for wanting to bring back Gold standard

@charlesdai6611 4 месяца назад

Hedge with risk of account and gp banning isn’t really that good of a hedge.

@SparcMac 4 месяца назад

It hurts my soul the Armadyl Godsword is equivalent to a Bond in price right now

@FlippingOldschool 4 месяца назад

The godsword prices are so weird now😐

@tuqq5238 4 месяца назад

I remember when ags was 120m back around 2008. Also most sot after godsword for a long ass time.

@Channel-io4xu 4 месяца назад

last time I played I sold my zgs for 4.5m now that i'm back playing osrs it's 28m damn

@sum-dum_nerd 4 месяца назад

pking just isnt as cool as it used to be, age caught up to folk and want to chill or the gap between bowfa/virtus or bots vs regular people. loved when ags was the go to spec weapon for everything, now people think def reductions more important

@laurivaltter 4 месяца назад

@@sum-dum_nerd pking is in bad state because the skill level gap between players is not balanced. super bad or super good, there is no middle class really, like in every other old game aswell that has an player versus player option

@emilianolopez3450 4 месяца назад

The short answer: Because Jagex didn't learn nothing from RS3's economics problems. The short explanation: If you print money with new broken bosses and don't establish a way or mechanic to burn that money, you get inflation.

@Phnxkon 4 месяца назад

@slayer100141 it is the solution for items becoming devalued. All it would do is make gp move around more. I think we would need the opposite and some way to siphon gp out. Taxes feel bad honestly. Something that sucks out large amounts of gold like construction. Maybe sailing will have this cost built in? Also making pvm not shit out gp would be nice.

@emilianolopez3450 4 месяца назад

@@Phnxkon it could be like new minigames that make you pay a fee to play for a non tradeable reward, or some mechanic like that to delete cash.

@antscaleeez7924 4 месяца назад

As for gp theres been some recent lowkey ones but the gp coming in outweighs it, cuz i mustve spent at least 40-50m in death charges from vardorvis and im sure im not the only one that had troubles lol

@PapaJodster 3 месяца назад

It's honestly so refreshing I'm not the only one that noticed. I've quit this game permanently as a result of this dumpster fire economy. Jagex doesn't seem concerned at all about bots I can't support that.

@dyja7 3 месяца назад

we should still have time for them to figure it out and turn it around for OSRS. in RS3 they've added trillions of gold worth of MTX "rares" and tanked the economy. I think OS devs are smarter, hopefully they'll add some gold sinks to balance things out

@MythrilZenith 4 месяца назад

We're almost hitting the point where a Fang is cheaper than a Bond, while Tbow and Shadow are basically impossible to farm for people who don't already own them. This economy is going insane.

@ALostCAWs 4 месяца назад

I'm still baffled by how much the Fang dropped in price. I bought mine when it was still around 24-26 mil.

@Gills420 4 месяца назад

pre eoc buddy welcome to pre eoc, go take a look at rs3 if you think this is inane........

@natesthegoat1464 4 месяца назад

@@ALostCAWs its a great weapon too at a lot of bosses. I think they should buff the fang

@xAnimey 4 месяца назад

@@ALostCAWsabouch which fang are we talking? Im a bit nooby but I dont wanna miss out to buy it haha

@xAnimey 4 месяца назад

@@Gills420pre eoc? What u mean.

@Discokrieg 4 месяца назад

Osrs economy getting the IRL economy treatment.

@ividosrs 4 месяца назад

Remember when they said no more new gargoyles or zulrahs then poceeded to make even more insane drop tables? Now we even have low lvl mobs with crazy gp/hr...

@meessmit1103 4 месяца назад

zulrah is a joke now lol. if u do 40 kills/h its like 3m/h (incl ur shadow costs).

@Solrex_the_Sun_King 4 месяца назад

We need gold sinks in the game, clearly the new mods are selling gold and wanted more of it

@Rondigity92 4 месяца назад

definitely based around selling more gold via bonds

@gators9570 4 месяца назад

Zombie pirates plus the new fever spiders show how little they care about balancing money making. Revs have been insane forever but at least with revs there’s more risk and you need to have decent stats to make the big money. Zombie pirates shit gp out to level 40s

@ividosrs 4 месяца назад

@@gators9570 yeah fever spiders are really bizzare, like it was an oversight or something

@crasyrob 4 месяца назад

Zombie pirates being in the wildy is balanced from a player perspective, but whether it's the player, the bot, or the PKer that walks out with the loot, all of that is still being brought into the economy. They are the exact opposite of a gold sink. Fever spiders seem like someone forgot to add a 0 to the end of each item's drop rate, save for the Kwuarms. A level 42 slayer mob should not be that lucrative. Making everything 10x rarer would not have them be a money task, but rather a low level task where you might leave with a few small upgrades and a bit more money.

@sum-dum_nerd 4 месяца назад

people worried about fever spiders when you can get 6 whips in a task at abyssal demons.. nerf abby demons!!

@flawless7019 4 месяца назад

@@sum-dum_nerdthat’s not even remotely close to being an argument.

@sum-dum_nerd 4 месяца назад

@@flawless7019 whos arguing? god forbid theres easy reliable gp makers right?

@flawless7019 4 месяца назад

@@sum-dum_nerd Abby demons are not profitable unless you receive a whip, which is a 1/512 drop. Fever spiders give consistent Alchs while also having a lower slayer requirement. The comparison just isn’t the same

@sum-dum_nerd 4 месяца назад

@@flawless7019 the comparison im making is the way jagex balances stuff. they dont have a superior, so no chance of imbued heart like you have for kurasks which are notorious for being 1m/hr no imbued heart drop. the time investment is laughable, and this is truely just overhyped. cuz youre not getting 2m/hr at its tier, and i know damn well mains will do it got an hour, get bored, and go raid because thats what i did

@ohcrounches1989 4 месяца назад

I googled "why are osrs bonds so expensive now" and ur video was top result. Lots of ppl are sharing your video in osrs groups on fb rn. Great video i learned a lot from it instant like instant sub.

@whale605 4 месяца назад

To give an idea of how expensive these are, the rs3 bonds were ~15m in sep 2017.

@TheRabbidChipmunk 4 месяца назад

I believe the new group boss was confirmed in the dev stream to be draconic and dragonbane works on it

@Kurbbyy 4 месяца назад

Same and didn’t they say it’ll bring the first draconic weapon

@GooseExcuse 4 месяца назад

@@Kurbbyy first draconic mage* weapon yeah

@akalaramorgan9242 4 месяца назад

i believe the exact words used was, Interviewer - "Will it be a dragon?". Dev "It will be now!"

@gators9570 4 месяца назад

@@akalaramorgan9242I still don’t think the community has caught on fully. Cause the dragon bane weaps are still relatively close to where they’ve been for a while. Could see them jump into 70-80m range for a little once the update hits

@akalaramorgan9242 4 месяца назад

@@gators9570 DHL has already seen a price bump, DHCB has also already gone up but no-where near the DHL, the new Wand is gonna be expensive, so day 1 group boss hunting will be the way to go! This is a FREE CLAN EVENT added by JAGEX!

@tnylilrobot 4 месяца назад

Bought 10 bonds for $55 in mexico. So 130m for $55. Jagex is gunning for gold farmers livelyhood

@GrantHodges-z7d 3 месяца назад

How

@gameandhike5844 3 месяца назад

Gold fluctuates between $0.15 - 0.20 per mil on the black market so your 130m would only cost $20-25 on the black matket

@burelmcnamara1851 3 месяца назад

@@gameandhike5844 but that good deal comes with a risk of being banned

@dylansmith4918 3 месяца назад

@@gameandhike5844Yeah with high risk of ban.

@celebratecrypto3693 3 месяца назад

How do you buy them in Mexico? I believe your card information has to match the country vpn so using USA card with vpn in Mexico don’t work right

@internetman8015 4 месяца назад

Inflationary content and the max cash stack limit are issues that need to be prioritized by the end of the year or we're going to start running into big economic problems.

@hardup9809 4 месяца назад

I don't know why this is so funny but it is, like this is a major real world problem right now almost everywhere and we are discussing it in an online mmo because it's an actual issue here to, kinda crazy tbh

@urekmazino6800 4 месяца назад

@@hardup9809lmao capitalism baby wooh!

@donsolos 4 месяца назад

@@hardup9809economies are the hardest part to get right in mmo's. It's a very finicky thing and if done wrong has disastrous implications. It's hard to design fool proof systens for problems you dont even know you will run into

@SpikedPinapple 4 месяца назад

Bond prices have went up due to the fact you can convert a bond to a 14 day code and be sold for cash directly. Its why bond prices have increased a lot more than items.

@donsolos 4 месяца назад

Legalizing rwt? That seems odd

@SpikedPinapple 4 месяца назад

@@donsolos you can try it right now, you can buy a bond and convert it to a 14 day code. Doesn't even cost like making them tradable either

@exantiuse497 Месяц назад

I thought that was a temporary thing they did for fresh start worlds two years ago. Apparently they made it permanent. I can't imagine any legitimate use for that feature now that FSW are over

@iKatray 4 месяца назад

being in the wilderness doesnt mean its "balanced" if someone dies there the money still comes into the game. The wilderness adds entirely way too much raw GP.

@FailBucketFilms 4 месяца назад

But less ppl are willing to do that activity due to its risk, so there is still some level of balance. If revs weren't in the wildy, everyone would be doing them all the time.

@prettygrllswagg Месяц назад

@@FailBucketFilms point is people are still doing it and no matter who walks out with it the money is still being added to tha game

@exantiuse497 Месяц назад

Jagex' approach to Wilderness is IMO very stupid and destructive to game balance. Most players hate PVP, they don't want to come to wilderness. Jagex makes content with extremely overtuned rewards to lure players in as loot pinatas for the PKers to kill. That's how we get mobs with obscene drop tables and other overpowered content like chaos altar. There are some good content like black chins but mostly it's way overtuned IMO Jagex should just stop their attempt to revitalise the Wilderness. Nerf the Wilderness bosses and other content to be in line with other content in the game, then let them be, if people don't want to go to Wildy then they don't go

@iKatray Месяц назад

@@FailBucketFilms less people... most of the accs are bots bruh cope harder

@MrPatrickbuit 25 дней назад

@@FailBucketFilms That doesn't matter to a bot

@ignasdaugela1780 4 месяца назад

I know this is kinda random but I used to do alot of zulra back in the day before some of the nerfs to drop table. So I had bought like 1500 zulandra teleports for around 150-200 each (cuz they were that cheap back then) and once my membership ran out I just stoped playing RS for couple years. Imagine how happy I was once I logged back in into my account after those years and went to kill zulra, only to notice that my teleports who were worth 150-200 gp back then are now worth 20k each.

@matthewperkins1334 4 месяца назад

the cheapest theyve ever been were 6k ea according to the tracker?

@ignasdaugela1780 4 месяца назад

@@matthewperkins1334 Because traker only goes back to 2017. In 2015 pre nerf zulrah would drop 50 teleports per drop, no one would even pick it up to save inv space. After 1st nerf still in 2015, they droped 20 at the time. They had some value after that but still, traded at 150-200 gp ea. Only after 2nd nerf where they reduced drop rate from 20 to 1 did they sky rocket. Only in 2017 when they buffed rate from 1 to 4 did theyr drop to 6k. If they cost 6k ea with 4 per drop, imagine how much they cost with 20 or 50 per drop.

@popmoock1122 4 месяца назад

I would love to see a weekly market analysis, this is so helpful with the changes and seeing the price impacts due to those changes!

@zacharymichael9718 3 месяца назад

He used to do that. Probably stopped because it wasn't worth the time and it was usually only one or two items that fluctuated.

@pwntwnt 4 месяца назад

The main problem is jagex, creating more areas accessible to bots instead of removing the areas where there are more bots (lava dragons, revenants) or simply banning them and implementing better anti-cheating, bots screw up the economy a lot

@ragingmcqueen 4 месяца назад

Then go figure out a better anti cheat. Cheating is a problem in every single game these days. It's not a battle you can win.

@Latinblood59 4 месяца назад

Yeah, you’d have to come up with a solution and propose that to Jagex. The thing is, once Jagex implements a fix, the bots will make a workaround. So, it’s always a back and forth battle.

@teste-yh5df 4 месяца назад

@@ragingmcqueen you cannot win, but you can improve. If a content would require more hours to play before to access, then, bots would need to bot way more to get profit, and maybe getting banned before profit

@michaelf184 4 месяца назад

They can get rid of bots if they really wanted too. Issue is… simple… how much $$ (stock holders $$) what percentage.. is from Bot’s?

@orphscookie8047 4 месяца назад

From a realistic perspective, bots do get banned and do get a lot of the gp that they earn removed from the economy when it ends up being sold in bulk to people. The real issue is how fast you can make gp which is why everything's going up faster than we can get rid of it.

@Jakanato 4 месяца назад

Inflation is truly everywhere. Can't even avoid it in my games

@Minecraftian17 4 месяца назад

Steam regional price changes hit Argentina and other regions at the end of november 2023, it goes up a bit prior but Ill be honest that was one of the main reasons. Alternate region pricing for bonds was approx 2$usd per bond in those regions. since the change they now use USD currency and as such are now the same cost. Loads of people connected osrs accounts to alt region steams for cheap membership and cheap bonds

@noThankyou-g5c 4 месяца назад

damn i was trying to figure out how people were buying bonds for foreign prices but now its too late :(

@ShiaLaBaggins 4 месяца назад

It's not too late. I won't give away the secret exactly, but there are 2 countries you can use on Nord VPN in the $5 range per bond. Ignore Turkey because Lira is hard to get and Brazil because you need a CPF which is also difficult to get

@15justt 4 месяца назад

@@ShiaLaBaggins $5 per bond? Assuming you actually mean bond (2 week membership) that's not far off from normal pricing

@noThankyou-g5c 4 месяца назад

@@ShiaLaBaggins appreciate it, i wont ask for the countries but I have two questions if you're willing to answer. 1. Do you do this through steam or just their browser bond purchases 2. What are the "easy" ways to get foreign currency? That seemed to be the problem I had, I could get the browser to think I'm in a foreign country but I only know how to pay with USD which would get the browser to switch to US prices once I filled in my payment info. even if you only give me a topic to research myself it'd help

@gogeode 4 месяца назад

The OSRS economy really needs some way to get gold out of the economy better, if there isn't something put into place the game's economy is going to fall apart.

@TheStarspire 4 месяца назад

Brokers fees to list a transaction on the GE. Regardless of whether it sells. That’s a major money sink in EVE Online, Guild Wars 2, and I think even WoW.

@donsolos 4 месяца назад

There is simply just very little that can be done about it other than adding a skill that sucks out 200m gold per 99. But even that is just a bandaid. I mean how much gold is injected every single day just from high alching?

@mmmhowbowfoqyew 3 месяца назад

Go pking and trash the loot key. Joker style lighting the cash on fire.

@exantiuse497 Месяц назад

@mmmhowbowfoqyew Jagex could change how loot in Wilderness works. Make it so if you die to another player, half of the loot is deleted (and the other player gets the rest. That way there is still an incentive to go to wildy because the potential loot is better than elsewhere, but all of it doesn't enter the economy if you die

@DarthChosen 4 месяца назад

the bonds in osrs are tied to rs3 bonds as well, rs3 bonds hit 135m recently. the max cash stack was already changed in rs3 to cmb items over max cash as well we got the ge tax in rs3 too.

@kingfallen 4 месяца назад

135m!!! is that a typo!?

@DarthChosen 4 месяца назад

@@kingfallen nope

@Didodido66 4 месяца назад

@@kingfallenosrs gold is about 10x times more valuable than rs3 gold so it makes sense

@kingfallen 4 месяца назад

@@Didodido66 "valuable"

@kingfallen 4 месяца назад

@@Didodido66 lol. Right on. That's wild to me.

@SnowyTrees 4 месяца назад

They are 130m in rs3 shits rough

@NinjaBob777 4 месяца назад

The May 23rd update changed the Fever Spider drops from Rune Helm/Battleaxe to Adamant Helm/Battleaxe. Water Battlestaffs have also been changed to limpwurts roots. Checked the OSRS Fever Spider wiki as I was watching.

@KCzz15 4 месяца назад

Lowlife 1 through 108, I'd imagine that had some effect.

@RRocket02 4 месяца назад

LOL true that

@gmail4344 4 месяца назад

😂

@Mjupi 4 месяца назад

Assuming 1 bond per lowlife due to how quickly they died, 108 bonds isn't that much considering how many bonds are sold per day

@KCzz15 4 месяца назад

@@Mjupi Still thought, it was all at once and likely had copycats.

@vladu__e 4 месяца назад

he died a while back, he's been waiting for sponsors to release videos while he pretends he's using that time to get content for the series. his stats haven't changed in at least 6 weeks

@eddief1111 3 месяца назад

i wonder how much this inflation is affecting the Venezuelan economy

@Haf-A-Devon 4 месяца назад

I started playing osrs earlier last year, and I got my first bond for 6.5m and it wasn't very hard for me, took a break for a couple months because I was a little burned out and they haven't dropped below 10m since. Unless I can learn an actually decent money maker I might not be able to keep doing my bondscape grind sadly. I really wanted to keep this account f2p since osrs is such a beautiful f2p model compared to all the other garbage these days

@apsintrapsin3073 2 месяца назад

same i dont feel like grinding that much and having to make at least 1m a day just to break even as a mobile noob who cant do any good bosses so havent played in awhile lol

@beasthaven1571 2 месяца назад

The f2p model is great

@beasthaven1571 2 месяца назад

@@apsintrapsin3073you play mobile also!?!?

@jeffyboi6969 Месяц назад

coming from someone whos played since like...07. On and off. Dont play to grind for money to buy a bond. Its so un fun and all your money just goes back into a bond instead of your gear and fun stuff. Just buy it irl. Literally mow 1 lawn if you cant afford it or do some chores or idk go beg on the street.

@Haf-A-Devon Месяц назад

@@jeffyboi6969 No I know it's better to just pay for it, I mean better for you and for Jag, but I was just sayin as almost like a challenge run I wanted to try and keep it bond only from what I earned, and it wasn't bad back when bonds were like 6-7m. Now though it's actually pretty tough to keep the bond money up while still having gold to spend. Also I got to like 1500 total level for my first ever time really playing OSRS so not like I was in the big boy leagues yet where I needed 100+m for gear and stuff

@iWillAvert 3 месяца назад

Someone clue me in - are they not burning the gp taken from GE fees? If they are, they need to bump the fees because it clearly isn't enough. If not, then that's at least a start.

@scene24man 4 месяца назад

As someone who is keeping membership by buying bonds so I don’t have to spend real money it hurts, and it’s making me think about just not playing.

@nightmare348 4 месяца назад

I wouldn't be surprised if soon enough, they end up being a hundred million, like RS3 is.

@robertseptim3579 4 месяца назад

It's because botters hide their money by putting it into bond form. So this means less bonds for the rest of us which causes the price to skyrocket

@LegendaryCollektor 4 месяца назад

an interesting idea

@hardup9809 4 месяца назад

Yea but it's not like it's a finite resource it's a literal line of code an infinite supply

@devinwalters8808 4 месяца назад

No it's because the bonds work for osrs and rs3, so its tied to both economies, rs3 has horrible inflation and its causing osrs to follow suit

@superwolf591 3 месяца назад

@@hardup9809 Bonds are only sold on the ge by players, a bond must be purchased, there is a finite amount of bonds. Honestly what is happening is low supply of bonds and the demand is the same or has gone up since I bet more players are active recently due to big game updates.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

@@devinwalters8808 you can't transfer money from one game to another. currently osrs has much worse inflation than rs3.

@e_eyster 4 месяца назад

Low level seeds also did some odd stuff. Onion and Cactus went up 5-10x for some reason

@beasthaven1571 2 месяца назад

Still like that?

@michael2m000 4 месяца назад

I love that bonds are rising. I’m no longer in highschool and can’t play like I used to, so I often buy bonds for gp

@Nacho_Sup 4 месяца назад

Didnt notice how much my BGS dropped in price while i was staring at the fang price for weeks

@GhostLyricist 4 месяца назад

How do you know if Jagex isn't artificially increasing the price of the bonds on GE?

@deeezey_2239 4 месяца назад

Since toa and dt2 many of us have made billions upon billions The game is absolutely overloaded with gold and it keeps increasing The mad thing is bond prices go up while gold gets dirt cheap The systems gonna sort itself out at this rate because gold just won't be worth selling Even if people buy billions the influx of sellers because of these money makers and such ( many leviathan bots 10k kc ) each of them has printed 2-4billion alone

@Atomiicstarr 4 месяца назад

man cant math

@PropaneTreeFiddy 4 месяца назад

Jagex: "We're gonna tax all GE transactions to kill small-time flippers and remove GP from the game." Also Jagex:

@BloodReaper95 4 месяца назад

The boss coming in Varlamore part 2 has been confirmed draconic for a bit now. It originally wasn't, but they changed that.

@Iog0ut 3 месяца назад

Bonds are more expensive because bot farms are growing. Thats it, the end.

@007Hutchings Месяц назад

Bots are at an all time low so it’s not the end you retarrd

@xJabro 4 месяца назад

fever spiders adding alchables in large numbers goes against recent game design principles, im shocked by it

@nickbmxguy 4 месяца назад

Well they just nerfed it.

@beasthaven1571 2 месяца назад

@@nickbmxguysadness

@ahuman3040 4 месяца назад

Noob here. I've been doing my part to feed the hungry market Bank rolling my adventures through RuneScape. Plex, err Bonds are very useful.

@theflyingdutchmannl 4 месяца назад

Bond prices are like cigarette prices these days😂

@hootie017 4 месяца назад

The main people buying bonds are bot farms, it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. Jagex needs bot farms for their profits and frankly it seems we do too for some things. Everyone complained when the price of Prayer pots and Sharks went up because no one wants to do that many farm runs and 76 fishing is a very high bar for an item you need a dozen of before you do any combat task.

@movie2bLoved 4 месяца назад

What i wanna know is, why rune prices have crashed to almost half value in the last month 🕵️

@ElliotNess-jg8gt 4 месяца назад

Listen, best GP per hour is a steady job!

@Mulyse 3 месяца назад

I'm sure the OSRS team could fix/raise the max cash issue, which they'll probably need to at some point. They already did this on RS3 with an invisible workaround so it's definitely possible. RS3 max cash now is 2,147,483,649,147,483,647 or 2.147 quintillion

@specul0 3 месяца назад

Makes it much harder for f2p players to get the bonds they want.

@JoeyP946 4 месяца назад

It's starting to piss me off how much membership costs.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

just pay for it with actual money. it's less than the hourly wage for even basic jobs.

@JoeyP946 2 месяца назад

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD membership is like 14 bucks for 1 month, cheaper if you go longer. That's an insane price.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

@@JoeyP946 wow cost this much in 2004. so no. absolutely normal price for a mmo. and in this case two mmos

@JoeyP946 2 месяца назад

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD Right, and right now Wow costs 12.99 per month. It dropped in price. Runescape on the other hand nearly tripled.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

@@JoeyP946 wow has a 70€ expansion every year. it's way more expensive now. so no. you are wrong.

@IVIUT3D 3 месяца назад

osrs needs a proper gold sink

@Sayef_Li 4 месяца назад

How's that tax cutting working for Jagex?

@LidlRaccoon 4 месяца назад

I've been calling it "void-walker" this whole time.

@Burnttoaster1111 4 месяца назад

There needs to be long-term safe investment option to hedge against gp inflation, like some Misthalin treasury bonds.

@xanlosgames6270 3 месяца назад

Ill be taking a break from osrs until this mess is sorted, Ive been putting off things that I need to do anyways

@KingTemplarDragon 4 месяца назад

Rs3 bonds have skyrocketed as well.

@josh865 4 месяца назад

Everyone thought i was a fool when i bought 20 bonds before i took my break. They were 3 mil ea then and I overpaid

@casualcrazy2009 3 месяца назад

This is one of those instances where I feel like Warding or some other proposed skill should be added. Something that basically acts as a money sink that can take money out of the in-game economy. Honestly, I feel like this is one of the few things RS3 got right in the form of Summoning and Invention. I'm hoping that Sailing at least serves a similar role to help deflate the economy a little bit.

@X2yt 4 месяца назад

At this rate, by the end of the year, membership will be unsustainable without nolifing raids. Like, literaly. like 4 years ago I bought a year's worth of membership for two of my accounts for like 150mil total. 2 months ago I've spent 200m+ on a single account. It's literally insane.

@hawkotf3524 4 месяца назад

Get a job

@Never_Lucky47 4 месяца назад

@@hawkotf3524had to sell it for a bond bud

@VornameNachname-hi8or 4 месяца назад

I seriously don't get why people buy bonds... I have to work like 2 hours in my job for my yearly subscription, why waste digital money I have to grind 10x more for on that?

@Latinblood59 4 месяца назад

Job, unless you’re not old enough to work is the best way. Even if you have a $15/hr job, that’s nearly 28M per hour assuming bonds are at 14M each.

@15justt 4 месяца назад

@@Latinblood59 There are many factors. The job argument makes no sense. I play runescape for fun in my free time, why would I pay for it with money I >actually< worked for? For now it's still easy to sustain bond, but with the rising prices I don't know... Plus not everybody lives in the US, in Europe it's 11€ which is 1 to 2 hours of actual work

@mikel1062 4 месяца назад

Gold is massively inflated in osrs. And with nature runes under 100gp it's only going to get worse.

@dzlfuryrs 4 месяца назад

BTW, Jagex did confirm the new boss will be weak to dragonbane during a livestream.

@Jack-xf2pr 4 месяца назад

I've found the profit from dailies like farm runs, bird runs, etc have also gone up so maintaining a bond isn't quite that different than when it was 6m Easily 20m bonds end of the year imo

@cosanostra4229 4 месяца назад

the amount of gold coming into the game is insane right now. Every dragon item is valued on the G E for under it's alch price. So if a player is smart they are alching every drop they get up to every dragon item they get. The game has never been like that they cant sink that kind of cash.

@FrenchViking466 4 месяца назад

It's to force paid membership on people..

@Unclemikesshadycorner 4 месяца назад

The last idk 10 updates have introduced almost purely alch value based drop tables, like wildy agility, skely pirates, fever spiders and even the colloseum can drop millions in alchs per run, basically everything has been easy to bot and considering ban rates are down it’s hard to say this isn’t all just to increase the price of bonds, though if you look at the real estate market bonds have been keeping up with that level of inflation pretty close lmao

@Unclemikesshadycorner 4 месяца назад

Also, if their rationale is making stuff for Ironman they are doing the opposite of what that player group really wants, people will stop playing if you continue to devalue Ironmans grinds, honestly the problem is probably everyone on the team who loves the game is gone

@xKeville 4 месяца назад

They should just crank the GE tax rate

@rollingpaper-x2u 4 месяца назад

Fever spiders definitely didn't help with the bond prices lmao 😂

@carlooo00s 4 месяца назад

THE RICH GET RICHER ! HEDGE WITH OSRS GP!

@ben.dc5s 4 месяца назад

max cash limit is set for a reason. its the highest integer that can be set using 32 bit platform.

@staryskies 4 месяца назад

love the videos,may i ask if your still working on the flipping to max?its been months since last episode

@Jetaninja Месяц назад

Idc about any of the members items, but this bond inflation is outrageous

@Jamsterman25 4 месяца назад

It pains me to see the voidwaker so low knowing there is such an easy fix in making the pieces untradable!!!

@Youseeinthisrn 4 месяца назад

Ikr they did it with the Soulreaper why not the Voidwaker

@Papaconstantopoulos 4 месяца назад

Actually genius

@YToucat 3 месяца назад

Came back after a long break to try and get one, was expecting a 6-7m price tag but this surprised me 😅

@BachelorChowFlavour 4 месяца назад

The Voidwaker not recovering is almost certainly due to there being no item sink for VW or it's pieces unlike virtually all other rares. Other rares are botted as well, bots are not the explanation.

@ProbWontMaxUFC 4 месяца назад

the dragonbane weapons were confirmed on a follow up stream to work on the boss, they jumped up 10m in the literal minutes following them confirming it lol

@sheridanhart-tk1ld 4 месяца назад

You know it’s messed up when you can buy GP from 3rd party websites and buy bonds cheaper then using your bank card to buy membership 😅 10M is $1.50

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

and then you get banned. Getting cought RMT is a instant permaband

@shrimpvendor9911 4 месяца назад

The mods did confirm that it would be weak to dragonbane on a stream. So the announcement hype phase has already passed.

@ryanbeev 4 месяца назад

"if we had this much inflation in the real economy" the american education system at its finest its worse than its ever been

@megandurland3610 Месяц назад

I wish bonds were still 14mil in rs3. Those were the days….

@Cree_Empire_ 4 месяца назад

We need more cosmetic gold sinks

@blakeunderwood1075 4 месяца назад

Will help with inflation.

@charlesbrown4483 4 месяца назад

No, we don't need another step toward MTX, easing the playe rbase into CosmeticScape. Also that wouldn't even serve as a good band-aid. The GE tax update happened on 12/9/21, at that time bonds were consistently around 5.1m. Within 6 months of the tax update, bonds increased to 6.2m, which is only 200k shy of the all-time high bond price pre-tax of 6.4m(which only came as a result of the influx of players during the 2020 event). Since the tax update, the price has only risen consistently. It has never fallen in any significant way. Beyond the tax update directly correlating with massive and sustained increased prices, if you look at the prices pre-tax, the entire life of the bond it had risen slowly and healthily the way it should in a functional economy. Even with the 2020 influx, it still stayed very consistent overall. The bond was healthy for 5 years before the tax. Since the tax, it's been rapidly inflating non-stop... So, economics 101 class, can anyone raise their hand and tell me what could've possibly been the main contributing factor in the unaffordable price of bonds today?

@blapip6147 4 месяца назад

The amount of pvm item drops that are in the billions is increasing so it makes sense. Not enough gold sink

@KelsOwned 4 месяца назад

On our way to RS3 type inflation yikes

@Jo_Rogan 4 месяца назад

i wish they would add some monster similar to green drags so its actual materials instead of just more alchables

@Northeastcaper 4 месяца назад

Simple answer for bonds being expensive is that osrs gold is cheap

@Viperconn44 4 месяца назад

not sure about other items but i thought of the bond value increasing as an indicator of demand. the game keeps breaking player count records (from a combination of real players and bots). maybe it's a mix of increase in demand + gold rapidly entering the game? i guess only jagex would know for certain.

@garmrbanalras2579 4 месяца назад

I reckon part of the reason bonds are going up, is also because people have less I'll money to spend on bonds to sell for gold for people to buy.

@EddieSlams 3 месяца назад

It's sad really, I was going to try and get into runescape due to watching a lot of Settled, and play f2p to grind for a bond, but after seeing how expensive the bonds are, I was kind of put-off, I don't want to spend real money on a bond if I'm not going to enjoy the game.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

why would you want to spend real money on a bond? just pay for the actual membership. why is 10,99 too much for a game with so much content?

@kerwynpk 4 месяца назад

This correction was so extreme I was expecting news of a dupe

@valkymia3708 2 месяца назад

As far as cash stack is concerned, they need to make platinum tokens useful in the G.E.

@akalaramorgan9242 4 месяца назад

Max Cash limit cannot be changed unless the devs upgraded the game from a 32-bit system to a 64-bit system as in a 32-bit system 2.147b is the maximum integer a 32-bit system can use.

@mohdawad7339 4 месяца назад

Rs3 still use 32-bit system and they have increased their max cash.

@akalaramorgan9242 4 месяца назад

@@mohdawad7339 if RS3 has a bigger max cash stack than 2.147b then its not on a 32-bit system, its on a 64-bit system

@SirenXD. 4 месяца назад

OSRS is built in Java, Java's `Long` data-type has support for up-to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807. They can just *not* use ints lol

@hurrdurrmurrgurr 4 месяца назад

@@SirenXD. Or they could have an npc trade 2 billion gold for one platinum coin and then the sky's the limit.

@drpepper1132 4 месяца назад

I mean we already have almost as much inflation in the US economy..

@Vandelay666 4 месяца назад

Can't they just add Platinum tokens to the GE? Maybe separate NPC that only deals with Platinum tokens so that people won't get scammed

@piiik3 4 месяца назад

because bonds and rs gp are trading into real world currency, they are representing what is happeing with IRL money inflation. RSgp should be on forex imo

@ToyotaCamryOfDoom 3 месяца назад

A better question might be. Why are you still saying mealy instead of maylay

@orphscookie8047 4 месяца назад

I would be fine with a 5% GE tax (I'm an ironman btw ;) )

@neofaith 4 месяца назад

See is someone that plays an ironman i just get to watch this wild price change in stuff go crazy. Never could get the cash for bonds so I guess it doesn't matter that they are going up.

@0ffd 3 месяца назад

Exactly what Jagex wants 😉

@CamandrKreen 4 месяца назад

i feel like 1 thing you also forgot to go over on the bond is the supply and demand side. Right now not as many people are buying bonds due to any number of factors but the main one id have to guess is real life inflation. people are going out less and spending less. So in return people arent buying bonds so now there's less bonds in the game and for the people who want to buy bonds feel that their 8$ needs to be worth more gp leading to a direct increase in bond price. if there's too many bonds in game then the price comes down.

@Inoka01 4 месяца назад

I feel like this is definitely the thing that's most affecting bond price while also being kind of unmentionable. Because it's such a hotly political topic that most people either get WAY too toxic about, or avoid (because of the toxicity of the former group). But without bringing in any cause of that inflation, you can just look at the numbers and see how much worse off people are these days. And on top of that, how many hundreds of different ways they're being fleeced by millions of subscriptions and services and millions of other ways that didn't exist a decade ago (to nearly the extent they do today). People just have way less spending money than they've had in the past few decades, especially the cohort of people who would play Runescape (mid-20s to mid-30s, considering the game's age). That's the group of people that often graduated into recession (either 08 or Covid), that can never afford a home, that have had their wages suppressed, that have exploitative rent payments. There was a period where things were better, before covid and a brief period during covid (before around summer 2022 roughly) that things were at least starting to look up. But here we are, poorer than we've been for our whole lives.

@sylvariatzaka 4 месяца назад

(it was confirmed the new group boss would be weak to dragonbane on the twitch livestream q and a.)

@nicholascholka4565 4 месяца назад

Because jagex wants to get rid of gold sellers permanently

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 месяца назад

nah, because then gold seller prices would still be constant, but the gold seller prices go down as bond prices go up. so essentially both are just a symptom of gp inflation

@pebloo 4 месяца назад

120mil in RS3, it used to be 80mil in December 2023

@sk8rdman 4 месяца назад

What's wrong with the Tonalztics of ralos? It's your best spec weapon on bosses that you can't melee, like Kree, Leviathan, and Olm (head). Imo it's worth having for those sorts of bosses.