Czechoslovakia was just two slavic nations joining together because they happened to both be released from Germanic overlords and were neighbours at the time. They experimented with being together but realised that they preferred being apart.
66% of Djibouti's population are ethic Somalis. The country was colonized by the French and was originally called French Somaliland. Furthermore, the Northern third of Kenya is also mainly inhabited by ethic Somalis. The area was originally referred to as the North frontier district (N.F.D) and was administered by the British as part of their Kenyan colony due to its geographic distance from their other Somali inhabited protectorate British Somaliland.
Czechoslovakia borders were decided because they were drawn with ethnic boundaries in mind with a hint of historical context (Sudetenland, southern Slovakia, and ig Ruthenia) but even when removed Czechoslovakia would still be pretty long and even skinnier
Well the reasoning is mostly the same, geography, both of those countries are bordered by mountain chains, like the Annamese mountain in Vietnam and the Carpathians in the former Czechoslovakia, to be more precise the Slavic people of Slovakia lived on the mountains, while Hungarians lived on the Danubian plain, with the exception of the region around Bratislava, that region was quite mixed but very German in nature too, known as Pressburg, while in Vietnam they staterted conquering down from its core in the Red River Plain, conquering all the kingdom of Champa and the Mekong delta of the Khmer empire.
@@ggeronimo4412 Croatia was split between Austria,Turkey and Venice who were like if we cant get there by boat we dont want it so they took the coast. Bosnia is what the ottomans conquered from the rest of Croatia which was salvaged by Austria-Hungary.
Should be noted Chile and Argentina did dispute western Patagonia and Chile had to militarily occupy and settle the Mapuche territory in the Araucania region south of Santiago before it could firmly press its claim to western Patagonia. Argentina likely could have pressed a claim on western Patagonia if that hadn't occurred.
Also worth mentioning is the importance of controlling the waterways in the southern tip of South America. This is no big deal today with most large vessels going though the open ocean (Drake passage) and the Panama canal, but back at the age of sail, safe harbors there were critical to control navigation between Atlantic and Pacific. Spanish and British tried to settle the area as far back as 1500s to mixed success, including a failed Spanish settlement which was found by the British and tellingly renamed Port Famine (Puerto del Hambre). So it's no surprise that Chile started settling the Straits of Magellan as far back as 1843 (25 years after independence), to preempt anyone else trying to claim the region. For context, at that time, Santiago's control over the lands west of the Andes went only as far south as river Biobío; south of this river the indigenous Mapuche were a de facto independent nation. So I don't think it's absurd to think of Santiago's claim to all lands west of the Andes were mainly a way to secure their claim over the Straits. A little bit more context: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Treaty_of_1881_between_Chile_and_Argentina
As a Croat I'm a bit offended that my little CROissant of a country is not included. To go from eastern most part of Croatia (let's say Ilok) to Dubrovnik in the south, you have to travel for an entire day by car - and that's using a modern highway. Obviously no one is that crazy, people cut through Bosnia :)
The Somali territories in this video are incomplete, each point of the five-pointed star in the Somali flag (🇸🇴) represents a Somali territory: 1. Northern Somalia (former British Somaliland) 2. Southern Somalia (former Itialian Somaliland) 3. Djibouti (former French Somaliland) 4. Soomaali Galbeed (Ogaden) 5. NFD (now northeastern Kenya)
1. Somaliland (Protectorate British Somaliland) Northern of Somalia is Puntland and not Somaliland 2. Somalia (Colony Itialian Somaliland) 4. Somali Region (Ethiopia)
The whole coast of Norway, from the very south, to the very north, was already settled 11.000 years ago. The North germanic people used boats/canoes to make their way up north, while the Sami people came down from somewhere north east. They followed, and settled the coast, because the rest of the landmass was covered in ice. It was a very boat oriented culture, and fish dependent. Boats were also safer, and faster when travelling the Norwegian coast. It's unclear who settled in the very north first, but they eventually met there, and their cultures somewhat mixed. It was a very sparsely populated area, that's probably why the viking historian Ottar says that he lives northmost of all norwegians even tho he lives in Hålogaland, but Norse people lived way more north than that. By the year 1000 we know Norwegians lived in Finnmark. Sami settlement also eventually reached all the way down to southern Norway in the east.
Should be noted that fully settled and fully settled by subjects who recognize the authority of the government in Norway do mean different things. There is also writing of norse going as far as to encounter the Beormen of Bjarmaland, but I don't think that would really count for instance.
@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes That's true, but he refered to the norse expansion of the 600's, but Norway wasn't unified by then. I just wanted to poin that out. Even into the medieval age when Norway was unified, the borders in the very north east wasn't that clear, as it was just a place where Norway, Sweden, and Russia taxed the Samis.
All indoeuropean people only migrated to Europe, as peasant nomads, less than 5000 years ago, genetics and archeology proves this Norwegian indoeuropean folk don't have any history in that region beyond 5000 years The sami probably do
In Norway more than 80% of the population lives less than 10km from a coast so to us the coastline is the most important, the inland is just useless difficult to navigate space either way 😅
bare fjell i midten av norge, så litt vanskelig å bosette en by der. Oslo, alle byene rundt oslo-fjorden, Bergen, stavanger, kristiansand, ålesund, narvik etc ligger ved kysten )
80% sounds too much for me. all of Hedmark and Oppland is more than 10km from the coast and also most of Buskerud and one of the most populated area Romerike is far from the coast
@@malefantasy6976 Hello there Can you say where I can get the translation of a Swedish singer Britta Zetetstrom. I like her songs very much but the sad thing is that I couldn't find English version of those songs.
The Inca empire was not the main precursor of modern Chile since those territories were populated at that time by peoples other than the Incas who only paid tribute and the Incas were in that presence for approximately 40 years. the one who was a main precursor of modern chile would be the Mapuche people
That wasn't what was said in the video. The video said the reasons for the Tawantinsuyu and Chile to be elongated on a South-North axis were similar, that being the prescence of the Andes mountain range.
Exactly, I've found many clueless North Americans thinking that us Chileans come from what they call "Incans". The Mapuche or more accurately the Reche of back then NEVER get a mention, they totally deserve it. They inhabited from the Aconcagua Valley to Chiloé, pretty much where the modern Chilean population lives.
Connected to the mountain issue between Sweden and Norway is also the rivers. A lot more rivers flow east towards the Baltic sea and the Bothnian Gulf and Bay which makes river transport much easier especially for the important timber industry making it more useful land for Sweden who already held the coast for a long time. Like the long coast of Norway it is good to remember that travel by water was so much easier than over land for most of history.
Yeah, if you look at the river basins of Europe they actually fit kinda well with current or historic borders. Rivers were in many ways the highways and railways of the ancient world in general, not to mention them working as an easily defended and understood border between powers.
Somalia also lost land (NFD) to British East Africa which became part of Kenya & French Somaliland which is Djibouti now, Somalia considers NFD occupied by Kenya & Somali Region or Ogaden of Eastern Ethiopia as Occupied Western Somalia.
Somalia did not lose any land to Kenya. In fact, it is Kenya that lost Jubaland to Somalia. Look at your colonial maps. Somalis moved to NEP from Jubaland during British rule.
@@derrickmutuma7185 Somalis moved to NFD before British Rule stop making shit up, even if Britian ruled that land it was before Kenya was established in 1963! Kenyans are not 1 ppl but 47 tribes brought together by British colonial rule, Somalis are 1 ppl, before the British Left Somalis in NFD demanded to be returned to their country & The British Held a referendum which the majority wanted to be with Somalia. Kenya is not The British Empire nor a Colonial power so they have no right to Colonial borders or JL or NFD!
@@MohamedB614 Somalia did not exist before colonialism. So there is no way they would demand to be returned to their country. What country? Did they make it? I said Kenya's border was upto Kismayu. Look it up.
@@derrickmutuma7185 Somalia Did exist, it was Punt it existed thousands of yrs ago, Sultante of Ifat, Adal Sultanate, Mogadishu Sultanates etc, and Somali people are 1 ppl, Kenya is a made up colony, Somalis lived in kismaayo & NFD so you have no right to it! We will be claiming our territory! Don’t think Somalis forget anything we never do!
@@MohamedB614 Boss Somalia, the country, did not exist before colonialism. I won't argue on this. If you don't understand then there is no need to engage each other. All current African countries had kingdoms and some sultanates. However, these were not countries. Colonialism brought about modern countries. Know your history. Don't talk out of emotions.
Would be great if all of Africa could agree to re-draw the borders on more sane standards like common language or culture. It’ll take so long for this to fix itself slowly over time :(
One of these countries that are so long, includes Somalia 🇸🇴 which is the most homogenous nation state in Africa unique in being 100 percent the native land of a single ethnic group, the Somalis...European colonial borders everywhere are a problem but Somalia hasn't got a problem of having unrelated ethnolinguistic groups lumped together, our problem is that part of our land and people were given to Ethiopia (Ogaden Region) Kenya (nfd province) and luckily due to Mahmoud Harbi and the Somali government, French Somaliland gained independence and became Djibouti 🇩🇯
As a Chilean i must agree, it's really cool to have a country like this, you can find the driest desert in the world at the north, and eternal glaciers at the south, you can cross the country from the Andes mountain range to the paacific ocean in less than a day lol, greetings from Santiago!
First time discovering your channel. Really good work 👍. If i had one suggestion do a few skillshare courses on the layout graphics etc. So long as the content is this good. Those few bits could blow this channel up a fair bit
You nailed it man, you nailed it! Just raw explanation and usful information. No ads, no BS. Keep it up this way please. I love geography & history. New subscriber 👍🏻
Looking on google maps, the Togo-Benin border literally just cuts directly through thousands of properties and houses. This really speaks to how insane colonial-era borders are. Good on those people for just completely ignoring them.
It also may be googles fault, they are not very precise on some borders, i remember in central america two countries had a lot of issues when one of their officers crossed the border thinking they were still home. Don't remember which countries th
@@ennd91 Yeah I've heard about that. I'm pretty sure this is a real phenomenon though. It's just so ubiquitous along the border that google would've needed to have messed up *really really badly.*
One of these countries that are so long, includes Somalia 🇸🇴 which is the most homogenous nation state in Africa unique in being 100 percent the native land of a single ethnic group, the Somalis...European colonial borders everywhere are a problem but Somalia hasn't got a problem of having unrelated ethnolinguistic groups lumped together, our problem is that part of our land and people were given to Ethiopia (Ogaden Region) Kenya (nfd province) and luckily due to Mahmoud Harbi and the Somali government, French Somaliland gained independence and became Djibouti 🇩🇯
@@dariogutierrez6716 mankind is inherently not perfect and ergo prone to err and make mistakes, the kernel and crust is to learn from mistakes and progress 😉
Can I ask you something, I watched recently your video on what if the roman empire didn't collapse and I want to ask you if I can use your ideas from that video to create a HOI4 mod?
The first time I saw a Somali republic map as a child I was offended as it didn’t include my region as a Somali under Ethiopian occupation, even to this day I’m offended both by seeing the Somali republic map and “Ethiopian” map EVERY SINGLE TIME as both of them are wrong.
As far as Africa is considered, it's more than likely that the "shapes" of most countries in that continent is vastly influenced by the European colonialist countries (the usual suspects). As for the nation of Somalia, it's borders lay beyond the one depicted on the map. This means that if one includes the states (Ogaden and Northeastern) in Ethiopia and Kenya respectively, which are predominantly inhabited people who are ethnicity Somali, then we're talking about a nation that has a different map shape than what we have presently. As a matter of fact, the five-pointed star on the blue Somali flag represents the five regions of the greater Somali lands that the conquerors stole from its people and "drew" the lines based on their political agendas.
Great video Neatling! I have an video idea about what if the central powers won WWI and could do the alternate futures of The Ottoman Empire, Bulgaria, Austria-Hungary and The German Empire. I would love to see that, I love ur content so just continue the great job Neatling!
It makes very little sense for a country to name itself "north way". Why not name itself "south way"? Most likely, Norway means "narrow way". And it's names after the route you could sail inside of the protective islands, that would allow you to travel up and down along the cost even in rough weather.
@@Tjalve70 Nope, in Norwegian it's called "Norge", so no reference at all. But the English name and the old Norse name does mean "the way north". Also, yes there are islands along the coast from Bergen and further north, and some protective archipelagos along the southern coast, but most of the western is completely open, like "Lista" and "Jæren" (look on a map), and it's also there where the water can be the worst.
@@Carlium I am Norwegian, so I am fully aware of what Norway is called in Norwegian. And just because YOU can't see a reference, doesn't mean there isn't one. Also unless you can prove your point, it's only a claim from you that it means "the north way".
If you only factor nation-state borders then you lose out on some of the geographical reasons that cause population centers to be narrow and long. Egypt is also a narrow country as the east and west deserts are barely populated while the Nile is where everyone lives. In fact, Vietnam when overlayed over Egypt follows the Nile strikingly neatly.
3:30 - 3:50 - it's true, from North America all the way down through South America, the mountain regions are in the west, it's actually almost all one mountainous pathway all the way down.
Esperaba ver también a Gambia y las naciones de la península de Indochina. De todas maneras, buen vídeo y buenad explicaciones. ¿podrías profundizar cada caso en próximos vídeos?
Oi Neat, i have an alternate history scenario you could do What if Archduke Franz Ferdinand didnt get assassinated? (WW1 mever happened) Or do one about if Africa never got colonized
Chile was actually formed by the people of a city Called Lezgo, and the country got the name Chile after a misunderstanding with an American official telling them to chill, when they were talking about what name should they use. Just kidding if you were wondering lol.
You forgot Djabuti was wholly part of Somalia and also you didn’t mention the land kenya was given by the British just like Ethiopia and is inhabited by Somalis to this day. That’s why the somali flag is a star in the middle of a sky blue, each angle of the star represents the 5 somali nations British somali, Italian somali Djabuti which was French somali as well as the Ethiopian and Kenyan Somalis ⭐️ I was hoping this will be part of your coverage but nonetheless your efforts is nothing short of brilliant. Well done buddy
About chile and argentina there was a Project to unify boths countries in the 70s called "united states of hispanoamerica" during that period tgere was excellent relations between boths countries and governments and also there's a flag about this country but the project never worked because uncle sam as always was messing around with his coups and dictatorships and made sure that boths countries hate each other so they wouldn't try to become one ever again.
isn't there a "river" nation/country a bit more north west of togo or is it just a "river" nation/country and not clearifid as a long country? and lik others mentioned vietnam is also a long country and the southern bit of myamar and thailand is skinny geographicly but i wonder why they splitted it and not 1 country taking over most of the panisula
Ever wondered what if Italy managed to bet Greece, how would the war turn out Because one of the reasons for the Italian armistice was there “loosing streak “ also Germany stopped Mass Paratrooper operations after Kreta and the Allies realized how “Strong” Paratrooper operations can be and adopted the concept most notable the landings in Normandy
Long skinny countries like Chile are what happens when the kids who suck at choosing up sides for schoolyard basketball get to draw up international boundaries as adults.
5:55 the region inhabited by somalis is missing garissa, wajir and mandera counties of Kenya and Djibouti. Although in the 1970 in Kenya they were heavily targeted and many of them fled to Somalia, the area is still dominated by somalis. In Djibouti 60% of it are somalis of the issa clan.
Chile was not part of the Inca Empire, in fact that territory was barely populated by native americans at the time, maybe with the exception of Mapuche at the south. You can clearly see this by looking at Chile's modern ethnicity, an estimated 55% of the population had European ancestry, 45% is mestizo, and only around 10% had indigenous ancestry (that, like I said, is mostly Mapuche and unrelated to the Incas). Comparing the natives' percentage to truly Inca countries such as Perú (26%), Bolivia (22%) or Ecuador (39%) shows this
Mestizo means partially descendant of native American, and the 10% of indigenous ancestry means *full* native American ancestry, not that they are the only native Americans left. Also, the 55% of European ancestry is mixed with native American (and being Spanish, mixed with Jewish, Moor...). The Spanish had no problems with marrying native women, as long as they were Christian and had lands; Catalina de los Ríos y Lisperguer had a mapuche grandmother. Remember, there were times in which mapuche people, or people from the other ethnicities changed their names to Spanish ones to avoid discrimination. I highly recommend you to read modern books of Chilean history; studies of Chilean church history have a lot of material regarding the native population based on marriages registers. It isn't factual that Chile was "barely populated" and, Valdivia made his conquist proclamation before the Inca curacas when he founded Santiago. Chile was very much a part of the Inca empire, as far as the Maule river. Also, you aren't aware of the important amount of black population in colony times, large enough has to having had their own religious organizations. That idea of Chile being the most European South American country in racial terms, has no support in history. If you ask for a genealogy study at the historical archives of the Catholic church, you might find some caciques in your ancestry. Or some slaves. That's what we are.
@@emaarredondo-librarian I don't understand how any of this is relevant to my comment. It's true that the Capitanía General de Chile was one of the (if not the) poorest and least populated regions in the spaniard colony. My point was that even tho it had a relatively small European population at the time, since the indigenous population was even smaller, Chile's current percentage native population is small(er) than in countries where the Inca empire had a true presence. You can argue the north of Chile was part of the empire because some indigenous people that inhabited that region were "sympathizers" of the Incas, but with that zone being a desert, they had nowhere near the population density of Perú or Bolivia. Even if you accept that part of Chile being Inca territory, it only lasted a coupe of years until the spanish occupation. I'm also very aware of the afrodecency in Latin America, but that simply isn't the case of Chile. The only parts of the colony that had black slaves were either geographically in the middle of a slave route, or rich enough to buy slaves (such as the Virreinato del Perú and Río de la Plata), but that certainly wasn't the case of Chile. In fact, most of the Chilean afrodecency comes from annexed parts of the Virreinato del Perú, and estimates show that there are less than 10k of them. And I don't know why you said I think Chile is the most European country in SA, when that title goes without a doubt to Argentina. They had a constitutional policy to search and to ease European immigration after their independence, thinking that their race was superior to what they had at the time (an ethnic composition somewhat similar to modern Brazil). Argentina, as opposed to Chile, actually had a sizeable black slave population (percentage wise), but it was drowned by all the europeans that arrived the country, specially after both world wars.
@@Ignacio.Romero Greetings. Point after point: The native population of Chile being scarce is an assumption. Of course in the Atacama desert all population was scarce, but the Inca Empire southern border was at the Maule river, way below the desert. Also, at the time, not all what now is a desert, it was. Copiapó's original name was San Francisco de la Selva. The Inca rule here lasted for 40 years, not 2; time enough for building watering infrastructure in Santiago. Inca were (are) remarkable for their agricultural technology, nowadays seen as a possibility of adapting to climate change. So, they knew how to sustain a large population. The Spanish preferred to conquer places with population in it, they didn't came to cultivate the land or mine the gold by themselves; the institution of the Encomienda provided for that. And everywhere the Spanish counted with local help to conquer whichever empire they faced. Chile had a lesser African population than other richer colonies, but by no means it was limited to the northern part of the country. As I mentioned, there were cofradías for African descendants in Santiago, the marriage registers had plenty of Negro de Guinea, mulato and pardo in their inscriptions, and there were batallions of pardos and mulatos fighting for our Independence, when the northern border was a different one. Chile freed slaves way before USA did, and there were discussions in the Senate regarding the economic impact of the measure, and whether the owners should be indemnified. If the Black population had been nonexistent, all of that wouldn't have happened. I didn't mean that you said Chile was the most European South American country. I meant that many Chileans like to think that. Specially regarding the African part; I remember as a child hearing that the Africans didn't survive here because of the cold climate... But, as a librarian/researcher, I compiled the Boletín Bibliográfico del Anuario de Historia de la Iglesia en Chile for decades; I still remember the first book I found about African presence in Chile. I was a new subject then. Afterwards, many studies point or touch that subject. Regarding the importance of Native presence, the evidence is large and strong, even in a such narrow field as Church history: the sacraments registers, the ecclesiastical census, the missionaries reports, all of them are proof that our population is mixed race, even at the most aristocratic level. I remember a talk we had with a researcher of the Archivo del Arzobispado, about the people who went to get their genealogy done, expecting to find noble conquistadors, only to find indians and slaves. These were people who could afford a genealogy made by a pro, not just any flaite, so, now, you know. I highly recommend you to find the collection of the Anuario, and take a look at the articles I registered having to do with population; section 15 was exclusively about the native culture and religion subjects. Is it clearer now?
you missed something on somalia kenya British also gave Kenya some Somali territory somali people are divided into three different countries 1 somalia 2ethiopia 3 kenya the north eastern part of Kenya
The reason why there is a constant war in Africa is that it is because of the legacy of colonial borders - scramble of Africa - that cut through societies and nations. In the case of Somali nation it is irony to see that Ethiopia the only African country that participated and benefited from European scramble of Africa is now going through a terrible civil war and are complaining about western interference and shouting slogans such as pan Africanism and anti colonist. Unfortunately wars and conflict will continue and consume human capital and resources of these countries until Africa gets rid of artificial colonial borders
Hey sorry you forget somalia is long because most of Somalias land is given to Ethiopia and Kenya because British and Italy carved up africa our land and people are still not free
Argentina and Chile debate: Chile: Ok, you take the steppe and I the forest Argentina: Ok Argentina: .... Wait, what about the ice? Chile: MINE Argentina: No u, do not take it so literally about the steppe and the forest, leave me some green and white for me. Chile: Mmm, ok but little Argentina: Perfe- HEY! this lake is mine and that part of the ice belongs to me! Chile: test it Argentina: mmmm Im invade you Chile: OK Ok ok its yours UK: Hey this islands looks great Argentina: Please Chile help me Chile: No 40 years later and still this part of the ice does not have a border line in google maps...
One thing you left out was that of French Somaliland or modern Djibouti and the Somali territories in Kenya. In both of these cases the French and British sabotaged and outright banned the peoples referendum on joining their brethren.
