Why are women excluded from the draft? 

so what if, crazy idea, we got rid of the draft all together. maybe we shouldn't send ANYONE to fight and die in wars who doesn't want to

Fun fact: There was a day where I and my classroom were able to ask veterans multiple questions about the wars they fought in. After many questions, I finally got enough courage to ask if there were any last words that the fallen had given, expecting something like what youd see in the movies. One vet respectfully spoke for the others and stated his experience. "I knew him as my best friend all of my adult life. When we were in battle, he got ripped apart by shrapnel after an explosive hit our vehicle, losing blood fast. I tried carrying him over to safety, and when i did, he was shaking, rattled. He choked on his blood and tears, crying out for his mother that died 3 years prior. That moment stuck with me and helped me realize that we are all helpless children in the face of war and death."

If you're a country and you can't get enough of your own citizens to volunteer in a time of war. Then you probably shouldn't be fighting that ear to begin with. Because that indicates that the people themselves don't want war.

If you can't be mature enough to solve problems without war, you shouldn't be running a country. Maybe that's why women should be in charge.

Appealing to ppl to not argue or harass ppl in comments is like screaming into the night and demanding the sunrise early. :/

MRAs lose me with this conversation. The tragedy is that men die in war. That thing can't be fixed by throwing the "equality" buzzword, if you have an 50/50 army or more women participating in war, that doesn't fix the initial problem at all. Also, it is weird that the same guys that are all about "men and women are different" bit then make claims about the "unfairness" of not drafting women. It is really unfair making men (who are stronger than most women) figh other men? I see more unfairness in making women fight men, honestly. It would be more logical to make women participate in other roles, but women are already doing that and they complain anyways. It just seems that it is a "gotcha" point to feminists, not real concern about men.

It’s amazing just how much stronger men are than women. I had no idea they were that much stronger. Until men can become pregnant, the reality is that women have to procreate and tend to the children. I remember watching a young man jogging down the road. It hit me that he may be running to be in good enough shape to defend this country. The fact remains that the lion’s share of child upbringing rests on the woman. Until men do their fair share (Mr. Mom’s excluded) there should not be a call for women to be drafted. At any rate, WWIII won’t leave enough people to worry about anything like the draft.

I remember when the suggestion of women joining men in the draft was met with outrage from feminists, citing the fact that women still couldn’t get justice for SA and the like (though of course, neither can men). I found it rather telling that THAT was what it took to see the draft as a gender issue. I don’t think that it’s “harassing” to point out this double standard. What men (certainly the ones like me) want is to have the whole thing abolished and not continue male disposability.

there shouldn't be a draft in the first place

Women being weaker than men isn't something "society has taught us", it's a fact of human physiology. Whether it should be a justification to exclude women from military roles is a seperate question.

I don't want to be drafted as a woman. I don't want the men in my life drafted either. Regardless, the military wouldn't take me even if I was of drafting age. Why would anyone in a foxhole or the trenches really want to count on the person next to them defending them if they didn't VOLUNTEER to be a soldier?! There's plenty of poor folks that cannot afford college any other way that the draft is unnecessary. I graduated high school 20 years ago with less than 100 students. There was at least a handful of my classmates that opted for the military because they couldn't afford college otherwise. It's in the Declaration of Independence; LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. How is being drafted not flying in the face of the "LIFE" part of our founding documents?

Women have and still can serve pivotal roles in the military without being on the front lines. If a woman, for whatever reason, wants to be on the front lines, then that's up to her. But pushing for women to be on the draft? I believe I have to agree with others and say that there shouldn't be a draft to begin with. It should be up to the American people to decide whether they want to fight, not up to the whims of our government. I think there's a very clear issue here, though. They didn't push for women to be in the draft because it was a bluff. They themselves knew that they wanted their women at home taking care of the kids if they themselves were ever drafted, seeing as war is gruesome, violent, and traumatizing. A significant amount of soldiers that came home from WWI and WWII were in no condition to be around their families, and those were some of the worst wars because on top of all of the new chemical weaponry, there was also the issue of drug testing on soldiers to "improve their performance" which just led to them being hopeless addicts. Soldiers aren't treated the best, and we know from the whole burn pit debacle that even in modern day the lives of those in the military just don't matter from the standpoint of how the government treats them. But I digress. While there's a lack of equality there, there is just no denying that most men wouldn't willingly reverse the roles, and at least one parent needs to be present at home because kids can't care for themselves. Not every source of "inequality" needs to be overturned when it's a matter of practicality. The way you approached the issue wasn't nearly as powerful as it could've been.

Imagine living in a country with a draft oh no no no no nononono HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I didn't know about the 2016 and later infirmary. Thanks.

the draft doesnt need a change, i would bet that the reason the mens rights coalition didnt push for a full change is because unlike SOME people, they arent stupid. Women are weaker than men, not always, but in almost all case-scenarios, they are, making men better soldiers with less casualties and better recoveries in case of serious injury. Second, if we draft the women too, whom are we defending but the very politicians who put the war in place? It may sound sexist when you say "stay in the kitchen" or "raise my kids", but children need a emotional lifeline for when they get volatile, or someone who knows how to cook when they get hungry but are picky.

Of course, just deflect all blame to conservatives while ignoring all of the hypocritical feminist activists that are just now fighting the requirement to sign up for SS because it could affect them.

I want the draft tied to voter registration. Want to vote? register for the draft. Yes that includes women. Yes women should be in combat roles. However, I also want not being in the draft to be decriminalized. Signing up for the draft (and by extension, to vote), would be a choice. Only those with skin in the game should have a voice. Obviously there is people with disabilities, blah blah, yeah there can be special cases. But you having a vagina is not one of them.

As A former 11bravo Infantryman and Iraq Veteran. How many women can carry a 95 lbs ruck sack wearing full gear and full weapon's load And if That happens to be a M240 light machine gun That weapon unloaded weighs 30lbs add another 30 lbs with Ammo. Infantryman are expected to be able to carry or drag 200 lb man out of harms way.. As we have seen across the services since they allowed women into combat roles the physical standards have been lowered to accommodate them and with the women came new problems of sensitivity training and and other types of training that have absolutely nothing to do with war fighting and combat training In fact mixed units that include women under perform continuously against their all male counterparts in training exercises And now we have problems with fraternization between the sexes. This is all an experiment that follows the same logic as forced diversity like we see in the whole DEI and equity initiatives and has no place in the business of war fighting No Grunts I never served with gives a rats ass about hurting someones feelings or anything that reeks of PC. Let's get back to what we already know works

idc about anything if men are forced to have to sign the paper soshouldwomen all theydo is complain yet we have it way harder 😤

We need a new equal rights ammendment.

Very funny.

This video completely missess the point. The draft is used as an example to showcase the hypocrisy of the "equal rights" movement. Since you champion equality, you would have to fight to attain equal outcomes even in cases where its not favorable for women aka draft. Otherwise you'd be a hypocrite. The men who comment about the draft are not necessarily advocating for women to be included in draft, but they. Are pointing out the hypocrisy and double standards in the equality movement. Saying that the mens right activist should push for draft equality doesn't work since they are not the one claiming the fight for equality. You (feminist) are. So the burden of responsibility is on the movement that made the claim, and offloading it to others would only prove that the movement hypocrisy

Women in combat doesnt work. Read about their role in the Great Patriotic War. Except for a few oultliers, they were only good for rear echelon services or soldier's wives while at the front. Women should be allowed to compete for positions but without changing the tests just so they can pass. But women being drafted is absurd.