Why Are YouTubers Paid This Much?? 

Yeah Connor's right about having to preface lol

My Mom always says "never assume because it makes an ass of you and me"

It's frustrating that the internet has taken the "it's a bit like jazz. It's not about the notes you play, it's about the ones you don't" phrase a bit far, knowingly or not, and made things like this less about what you do say and more about what you didn't say or never occurred to you to say

can you believe that connors is so privileged that he earns money unbelievable

I think this happens because you're easier to be misunderstood online whereas in person you can see their facial expression, tone of voice, and etc. Actually assuming the worst in what people say online isn't always a bad thing, but it is when you get canceled for said misunderstanding or accused of it is when it is bad.

Similar to what Connor said in the beginning, whenever I make a sarcastic joke or comment. I often have to put a "/s" to indicate that I'm being sarcastic. Otherwise, no matter how obvious I make it seems, there will always be somebody who takes the joke or comment seriously and thinks I'm being serious.

Connor: You can't get tailored jeans The entire Japanese denim industry: Nani?!

someone who tries to slander you because you didn't preface an opinion with dozens of disclaimers, they aren't talking in good faith, they are just out to make you look bad.

The main difference between talking with some friends in private and discussing it online in front of a large audience (aside from people specifically out to get you), is that the reach of that conversation is not necessarily limited to the people who know you well enough to know who you are as a person

It is pretty infuriating to have to pre-face everything that you say and even then it doesn’t stop people from taking it the wrong way and then having people rally behind the wrong opinion. And even then some people are just downright evil and don’t give context at all. Biggest example that I could find was FreddieGibbs that captioned a Twitter post making fun of a hotel front desk worker having a bad day and then literally following them into the back to continue filming them, then making it a race thing. After that, they even leak DMs of people telling him his behavior was wrong so that their own fans would attack them. It’s horrifying stuff.

Well, that's the thing about talking in a pub with your dudes... they actually know you. Talking to a public there will always be a significant portion of them that actually don't now enough about you. Even in person, lots of us change the way we speak to strangers (and reserve some of our comments) precisely because there's an impression about ourselves we want for some reason. We can even tailor our responses with the perception (prejudge) we have about the stranger. Talking to a broad audience, is talking to the broad range of strangers we can face in our lives.

It also has to be said that we are in a phase of media and entertainment in general, that's been there for a few years, that's all about a never-ending flux of bite sized mass produced cheap stuff. It's like instead of having a full meal three times a day, we were just constantly being fed one potato chip every few minutes from a giant bag. Algorithms and big corporations like RU-vid or Facebook are a big part of the problem, because they decide what is put on the spotlight, and right now they put on the spotlight what brings THEM the most money in short term. More ambitious, carefully crafted content that takes time, money and talent, sometimes from bigger teams that you have to pay and organize, just has no place anymore in our 24 hour phone notification regime, because at the end of the day for the same amount of work, you'll have watched only one ad from the ambitious format, and dozens from the daily spam of react clips or livestream highlights. As a millenial, having to plug back the TV to finally get real constructed shows really hurt. But the current internet isn't interested in giving that to me anymore.

I think I consumed too much social media that I started to preface in real life when I have unpopular opinion

"I rent a Yaris" **shows a picture of an awd turbocharged beast**

HE'S WEARING THE EMIYA SHIRT EMIYA SHIRT ALERT

When my yt comments are really long bc I have to preface and account for a lot of possibly misunderstandings.

To the final point in the conversation, anyone "doing well" compared to the observer can be used as a target of their frustration or jealousy. This can be for both legitimate and illegitimate grievances. Either way it's not fair to you guys. People need to go complain to their politicians, not RU-vidrs.

Totally agree with Conner. It frustrates me also every time I wanna make an opinion or comment on something, not only online but also in a group of people, that I have to explain my self as per people's interests just before I make an opinion cuz otherwise, they just misunderstand not only what I am saying but also assume my personality. Common sense is not common - is the perfect sentence to summarize this issue.

The moment connor looked at the camera and said really bro hotpockets,cringe bro,i bursted out laughing

I only dislike how much free shit online content makers get (kind of envious that I have to pay for my stuff). Like creates be like "hey guys check out my new house that this company gave me, it's pretty nice has a built in office so they are just trying to support my work". On the flip side I also 99% get it, it's free shit that helps you with your work in one way or another.

In face-to-face conversation, you can see the other person's facial expression if they don't like what they're talking about and hear their pitch of voice. we're so used to reading faces and hearing the voice of people but in text, we're not there yet fact we're worse at understanding the words of other people in Text. it's because of their multiple meanings in their words of text and sometimes a misunderstanding of the word they're using

i feel that even in regular conversations, I hear my guy friends having to preface how you feel about a situation before you shit on things. You need to put your feelings about the subject into context before you criticize something bc it makes your argument clearer.

This is one of the best trash taste clips

@Trash_Taste, I support you guys and I believe it is never fair to judge or assume any thing about people we are not familiar with. People are complex, and communication seems to be an ongoing challenge for all people, especially for Autistic mixed with suspected ADHD individuals like me. I have been a victim of judgements and misunderstandings for a very long time, and I likely would still experience this, especially from people who don't have as much of an open mind as I would prefer. I believe we all should have the freedom to express as little or as much as we want. At the same time, I also see great value in explaining very explicitly what we believe, why we believe this, and what our intent is, because this helps to achieve a mutual understanding and minimises misunderstandings. I would never force, never pressure, and never expect people to explain things to me in the level of details that I prefer, but I would likely only stick with the people in my life who are willing to communicate with me in ways that I prefer. Respectfully, I have let go of multiple people in my life who demonstrate no willingness or no capacity to communicate thoroughly with me, because I can never be happy with these people and with these extremely challenging people interactions. My personal principle is to never assume any thing, which relates to an old phrase that 'assuming makes an ass out of u and me (ass-u-me)'. I instead manage my confusions by turning them in to curiosity and I try to understand the other person's point of view more deeply, especially if I get the opportunity to ask questions and they are willing to answer. My guess for one reason why this problem of judgement exists, is may be many people are caught up, with out realising it, in a very ancient and out dated culture taught by the parents or environment that tried to improve survival in a different time and different environment by constantly comparing one self to the people around them. I prefer to focus on my personal growth and happiness, partly because competition brings me no value. This world is complex and messy, and there is nothing wrong with some people having more luck than others. In an ideal world, we would all be supremely happy at the same time, and I'd like to think we may get there one day. Until then, I'd like to think we all have responsibility and great influence on our own happiness. Unpredictable and unfortunate events can happen to any one, but a positive mind set and how we choose to react to our environment, can help I believe.

People assume the worst because there's so many awful popular people online theres so many people who are online commentators who are just straight up monstrous

It's the paparazzi mind set, RU-vid just lowered the bar of entry to get that kind of attention.

I dont think i should ever have to preface that i support something just because im being critical on something else.. Ex: if the conversation is about girls dancing on social media and i make a comment, im not going to then say, "but i also support s*x work", i personally think it is irrelevant if i do or dont to topic at hand unless someone asks me, and tbh even then wheter i do or dont is my own person viewpoint.

Yeah I also always assume that any celebrities that I know who didn't explicitly state they like anime, they must be hate anime

30 years old and literally eating a hot pocket while watching this. I didn't come here to be attacked :(

When i try to say Assume while sneezing: 0:52

Garnt watched that future clup

There's a slight logical fallacy here. They're falsely equating individual communication with mass communication. Mass media has more in common with giving a speech in front of millions of people, as opposed to talking to Auntie Linda in your local Spoons. Prefacing speech is common amongst pretty much all forms of communication that has a generalised audience. Otherwise, you're just assuming that not even 1 out of 100,000,000 people will get 'the wrong idea' and misinterpret a statement. They're directly comparing talking to each other in a pub, with mass media communication - seems a little odd.

Because we live in a world where people value mindless entertainment more than anything else. And it's not just RU-vid. Overall I have always found it incredibly funny that random dudes who bounce, throw or kick a ball 1-2 times a week are paid hundreds of millions yet doctors who save lives are often released from their hospital due to not enough money to pay their wages. Wages that are very low compared to how important every medical expert is.

I think its important to say the unspoken implication that you do support things because it doesn't get said as much as people think it does and if people are only hearing the negative things(which people pay more attention to) which tends to rapidly spread then that negative becomes the common stance on people who were only educated via common knowledge. I also think that with a lot of communication being unspoken, via body language and tone (yes that's technically spoken) as well as emergent from a conversation you're sort of forced to front load a conversation to communicate clearly.

There is no trash in this convo 👏

I'm sure this isn't the norm for everywhere given that it seems like every nation pays there teacher very little. But here in Canada, Ontario at least. Teachers are some of the highest earners. Some even earning two times more than the middle class household. In high school. There was one teacher who only ever had one class to teach every 3-8 years(no one ever picked auto cad). For which she wasn't even qualified for. So much so that we had to help her to open it up(took us longervto figure out that she was serious than to tell her what to do). This teacher was paid about 40k more than what my parents earned combined. And yet, whenever the yearly protest for higher wages comes round. There she was, demanding to be paid even more.

This is an awful lot of words to say that price and value are two different words for a reason.

I think it’s more about flaunting the wealth you have to those that don’t have that and tbh I think RU-vid and twitch etc do overpay people especially when there are tips/ad revenue involved. Personally I don’t care how much or what others spend on what.

I love anime, but I wish it was more like the OVAs from the 80s & 90s.

How long until the boys realize Connor says "assume" as Ashume and go into lenguage tangent

In my opinion, this is just my opinion so it’s ok if you disagree I respect your opinion if you do, I personally think that it’s annoying how so many people still haven’t learned the very basic fact that we’re all simply built different. We all have different perspectives and ways of life that may not be “correct” but it’s ours’ and it may not make sense to everyone else but it makes perfect sense to us. In the end we live, we laugh, we die. The happier you are the better your life, there’s no instructions on how to live so why try and gatekeep someone and disrupt their life? Every time you state a pretty basic opinion online you have to bubble wrap it 8 times just so that people won’t get offended and some people still manage to get mad. Like there’s no correct way on how to view it and it doesn’t affect your life in anyway so who cares? There’s no benefit in wasting your time by getting mad over it and disrupting someone else’s life in the process. Just move on with your life and do you and let others do them

I think its easier to spot negative comments than positive ones, even if they are few and far between, they are adressing negative opinion as a problem but ive never once saw a negative comment get more than 3 likes on any of their videos

The folks your work influence chances are the more you make usually

never care if people bitch about people being privileged , not your fault, they will get over it

Are people just angrier on the internet? I feel like people irl aren't so easily offended.

just start everything off with "I support the correct opinions and this is only an opinion towards a very specific thing"

Have y'all seen the last William Osman vid? he said a really interesting thing, the 'Emma Chamberlain Effect'. "The more relatable you are, the more successful you'll be. But the more successful you are, the less relatable you'll become." People don't want to see you succeed.

Drip is just a shorthand for the outfit responsible when someone is "dripping with swag", which is in itself short for "dripping with swagger". With that in mind, it's not about the dollar value at all, but the attitude or aura you give off while wearing it.

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I always have to preface when saying something online. Like if I say for example "Garnt has shit food tastes" I need to preface I don't hate Garnt otherwise everyone and their mum will be on my ass. Seriously, the Internet is the place where common sense goes to die.

It's impossible to know someone's own mindset (unless they mention it) especially due to many aspects of the internet, whether if it's someone on a video, or someone in the comments.

I understand the business side of things but it's still funny/sad to me that trisha paytas (not even her, just for example some mid-tier 'lifestyle' youtuber with 700k subs) earn more than a neurosurgeon. I think about this a lot and it's hilarious to me.

Me as a 17 year old getting paid £6 for an hour of work :(.

The ship has sailed pretty much for common sense on the internet the moment idiots and trolls got involved with it

Sometimes I feel like there are a lot of sarcastic comments to the point where you can't distinguish which ones are actually sarcastic.

Hello garnt

connor is welsh but he loves the uk connor is a unique human

People will talk shit and be more aggressive on the internet because they don't have the fear of being shouted at back or being punched in the face, simple as that.

I've come to realize that lifestyle is the key component to younger people being able to live their life the way they actually want to live. Housing: Where are houses inexpensive vs expensive what are the tradeoffs, if any, living there really. Personal example: I moved to Dallas Fort Worth for a job. I chose to live in an inexpensive apartment up till the point where I could scout out where at the time the Housing costs were reasonable. Now Housing is becoming increasingly expensive across the board and it really is becoming a FOMO issue as cities everywhere expand. 😑 I took a job in a city with just under 200k and I actually bought a house in the next town South that is less than 13K. If I were to sell today I'd roughly make 50% on it. I hear constantly from my 20s 30s friends about wanting to buy a house. Go do it. If you have to make an adjustment then do it. Your minor desires to hang out city center etc is the cause of your dissatisfaction. That being said cities in JP are expensive and focused on rail. Good reasons for that an all. However within easy driving distance is more rural land that is effected by Japan's aging issue where housing is reasonable. Cars, Phones, etc: Stop buying a new one. Wear things out. Fix them if you can. It is the root of our overly consumer quagmire. Want less plastic in the ocean? Buy less plastic stuff in plastic containers done. Fashion: The cost is in the labor. It is just as easy to make good clothes as crappy. I grew up in the former textile areas of the US. It is shameful what the "Modern" nations have done to their economies.

connor is always damn right

But there is also the other side to this, they assume there is a lot of people saying these negative things while most likely in reality these people make a minority. Normal people just don't sit non stop on twitter etc and shit on things

I think in 10 years we’re gonna have problems I hope all RU-vidrs manage their money well I know moist crikital is and pewdiepie not buying million dollar homes because they know this isn’t permanent no way you’re gonna be 40-50 year old you tuber

the most important takeaway I got from this is my boi Connor is too dummy T H I C C.

If people don't want RU-vidrs or Streamers to earn this much then they should also boycott the movie, music, sports, basically any entertainment industry because most of them get paid more than someone like a fire fighter.

Other people's opinions aren't your responsibility.

connor: if you're not fucking over somebody, do what you need to do maybe you should say that to your friend tectone

True

Are the bois millionaires?

Comment be like "Awkward" 👀👀👀

With teachers it has to be remembered that what a 20-30 kids at best can be teached. Add to that the class room, equipment and materials. Now divide it by the number of kids... It starts to really make more sense, in the end teaching is low productivity job that does not scale. Just like nursing or policing. Now compare it to youtuber, what 5 or 6 people spend a few hours on episode. And you can replicate that to how many viewers? Not that marketing isn't overpriced and whole online economy isn't bullshit in the end, but somethings scale and somethings don't.

Connor is an awesome human being! ❤️ Maybe one day I can be friends with him. 😁

I can't believe they have to defend themselves 🙄

People just need to stop being pathetic.

No views super early

I give trash taste a pass. I live in a eff hole named Nicaragua no2 in poverty in latin america And every trash taste hot take seams reasonable to me.

Importance doesn’t equal value. Lebron James for example is 1000x more valuable than teachers. Teachers can be easily replaced because it’s low skill, Lebron James can’t because he has one in a billion genetics and talents for a sport that entertains tens of millions of people.

Late, but it's their fault. It's their audience, their opinions, their framing. Be courageous, unabashed.

I won’t speak for the drip episode because I’m not in the loop with that drama, but gambling... I don’t think Joey nor Grant stating they aren’t gambling addicts would’ve changed the comments much. Regardless of playing devil’s advocate, that was a hot take that would always be discussed.

Either common sense just disapeared in some people or they are just that deprived of attention that they need to bait in youtube comments

Because they are rich

Emiya Connor and his wisdom

Nasty

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I was here

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Me as an artist who isn't good enough to get paid :(

Bruh, I miss the anime in this anime podcast.

Who gives a shit about what people on the internet think lol you guys should speak your mind and not pretend to support something on fear of receiving backlash

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you shouldn't expect nuance on the internet people are so sad and depressed they are ready to take it out on anyone even though if they were more positive and encouraging instead they would feel better also I identify with connor on the whole pants thing as a man who is also dummy thick

To Connor's point - unfortunately there is a NEED to preface things like that because unless you're consistently vocal about your views (which I think Connor is to a point) people can't be sure if you have basic human decency or not - because there's millions of people on the internet who just don't have common decency. Connor saying he supports the LGBTQ+ community, for example, is a given for normal decent human beings, but if I had a dollar for every time I've had to interact with bigots who hate gay or trans people on the internet I'd be a goddamn millionaire (and often in the anime community lol). It's sad and it sucks, and I've watched Connor enough and this show enough to have a great baseline of how they really feel about certain things, but it's just not realistic to assume the People Of The World present on the internet agree with you on even the most basic of human decency and respect , or simple common sense.

Oh yes, I also support sex work- specifically; the kind that is physically and financially healthy, and mentally stable, for all involved in the work otherwise please stop

whatever you say jesus loves you :P

You have to preface because we live a time where alot of actual bad people are some of the biggest influencers and so you should always preface things to help people understand and so you don't sound just like those bad people. But you also shouldn't be saying things that you'd have to immediatly defend yourself anyway. The problem online is, people don't cancel for the right reasons, or are quick to forgive because a bad person had good content or was popular. You could say "I like Grapes more than Apples" and you'd get cancelled, but you could do all kinds of actual fucked up shit but because you're popular or make good content the frogs with zero tension span instantly forgive the most fucked people just to have their content again, when THEY should be the ones to be cancelled for good, not the person who just randomly prefers Grapes to Apples.

basically connor dissing so called liberals

GET TO THE POINT THE TITLE IMPLIES THAT RU-vidRS MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THOSE WITH REAL JOBS AND THATS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DISCUSSING

The reason why people ashoom the worst about creators is because there are so many terrible creators who argue in bad faith. Connor is mis-remembering the gacha episode, we never said the boyz were addicted, we were saying they were being bad role models.

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