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@obara7366
@obara7366 Год назад
Love Connor's passion on this topic. Then again a lot of his friends are artists so it makes sense.
@a_m8036
@a_m8036 Год назад
Artists and factory workers about to have a lot in common 💀
@anonymousanonymous31
@anonymousanonymous31 Год назад
"Calculator" used to be a human job, and MS Word & Excel replaced a shit ton of secretary jobs due to massively boosted productivity. This is a thing across all job sectors
@superboy98612
@superboy98612 Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 I would categorize them more as machines though, not A.I.
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
As both atm I feel have had some boughts of depression over this recently.
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
@@superboy98612 AI is machine
@superboy98612
@superboy98612 Год назад
@@e21big A.I. is something that can be implemented to a machine or can be used by itself. You can't compare a driller to J.A.R.V.I.S. or F.R.I.D.A.Y.
@ahpuro
@ahpuro Год назад
People keep forgetting that whatever is highly profitable yet time comsuming is gonna be the first in line for automation. Fabric industry and printmaking have been one of the best examples for milleniums even before photography
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
imagine if we can automate the healtcare industry and suddely a hospital no longer require your life saving to save your life
@sssenseiii
@sssenseiii Год назад
@@e21big First that is not how automation works, prices are measured by what people are willing to pay and second the medical bills being so expensive is only a US thing, we don't need automation for it to be cheap. Think of phones 15 years ago, it would be crazy to ask for 1500$ for a phone and now they are normal, because people bought them.
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd Год назад
@@sssenseiii it still crazy to ask 1500 for phone. my phone is 100$
@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266
It's kinda crazy how we already have A.I. artists, streamers, and vtubers now.
@caldog619
@caldog619 Год назад
Hai domo! Virtual RU-vidr Kizuna AI desu...
@geeguy7429
@geeguy7429 Год назад
"artists"
@Eszoable
@Eszoable Год назад
@@caldog619 At least Kizuna Ai was body suit tracker and voice of an actual person. That was never a true program.
@sayantanmazumdar3
@sayantanmazumdar3 Год назад
@Eszoable , not yet.
@datpotatoes4005
@datpotatoes4005 Год назад
@@geeguy7429 Yeah, I don't think they are considered artists by.... most people
@thaumana8489
@thaumana8489 Год назад
6:54 Garnt is asking the right question to nail one of the core issues of the whole AI Art controversy that non-artist are constantly trying to downplay: A lot of those Image generating services are trained and also promoted to copy and imitate a certain artist's individual style until ultimately reaching a point where that generated result is indistinguishable from the original artist. A style that the artist forged and polished over many years and decades full of training and experience. And no matter what people say and how similar some styles can look, no artist has a 1:1 identical style, and many well-known artists are recognized for their art style for reasons, BUT many AI advocates as seen on reddit and discord are aiming for results that are an exact imitation of that style, and the most evident fact apart from the artworks that get fed as dataset without consent unbeknownst to the original creators is, that they are simply using the artist's names as prompts. And many AI companies and their biggest advocates even encourage people to use that artist names for prompts. For us creators this aspect is clear as day and is a feeling close to identity theft. Creation and creative process is unfortunately a process that is often hard to comprehend by people who never experienced that kind of thing and we always have to work with analogies or comparisons to address and explain art-related, existential issues to non-artists. >> Garnt's question about how one would feel if someone else with some tool is aiming for the imitation of your individual, personal content/style that you shaped along with your personality and influences, life experience + circumstances, and if you get faced with the fact that they try to effortlessly make a profit out of the work you originally did, should be a question that creators of any creative field should ask themselves earnestly. Pretty sure that Joey would think way differently about that issue, as soon as machine learning will reach a point where AI tools can create indistinguishable clones of popular youtube channels like his ones. Deepfake technology already made some remarkable, terrifying progress, it's just a matter of time. But maybe then he will understand artists' concerns more when it's too late. *And art theft defenders need to stop with the nitpicking of the wording. The core issues with those AI tools are the mentioned non-consent handling of the datasets, the exploitation and the questionable data acquisition, no matter how the AI image generators achieve this... When people nitpick about the wording of the artists, it's like a pickpocket is trying to justify their theft by saying "Uhm, actually I didn't steal money, I steal goods", still non-consent, still unethical, stil questionable, don't always try to distract from the core issue.
@lukaerd6258
@lukaerd6258 Год назад
Seems like Joey isn't really getting the human experience part of making art, its one thing to have a lifeless machine pump out art it learned to do. It's another to have a human gradually learn to do art. even if they're both learning, even if they're both making good art, I would rather support the human in this situation because as an artist and as a living creature i understand what it feels like to learn and make art.
@Doge-bz3vj
@Doge-bz3vj Год назад
I wonder what would Joey think if they make an AI that can replicate Miura's work and the team write a story for it to finish Berserk
@jasonterre1056
@jasonterre1056 Год назад
The fear is if the AI made the ending work. Cuz even human writers have a hard time ending a series.
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 Год назад
I looked at a lot of AI, also a CS student and sort of have a feel for the capabilities and roughly what we can expect for the future. It's not going to be possible to get something as good as just a trained talented team to mimic his art. While there is quite a bit of images AI is pretty bad at doing new stuff, the more different it is from the impression the worst it's going to be. It essentially just mixes and matches things that seem relevant. We don't see this that much with art AI's because the dataset is just that large. they mix so many things we don't notice. But only miura's artwork is not gonna be nearly enough, especially because it's not predictable like deepfakes for example where you can pretty much predict how things are gonna move when someone smiles.
@poppysmoria6268
@poppysmoria6268 Год назад
Would be kinda sad if that were to happen
@MikeIsCannonFodder
@MikeIsCannonFodder Год назад
I think there's also a difference between general training on random art (or "all" of it) and using just one artist's work or all modern artists or some other really small group.
@dlheiland
@dlheiland Год назад
Current A.I isn't A.I. Its a marketing term. I work in the field that builds them. Basically it is just very advanced pattern recognition, that can make something only on what it was trained with. We are decades out from true A.I. and it able to truly make something new, not based on the patterns it learns.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Год назад
People scoffed at the idea that AI could do the things it's doing now and each time, people get silenced. Also, people don't care about AI until it comes for their profession. N this AI is still mostly programmed machine learning, not the crazy absolute AI stuff you see in fiction too.
@sayantanmazumdar3
@sayantanmazumdar3 Год назад
There once was the human profession called the 'computer'. Now it's a machine that works way faster than humans. As Dr. Feynman said, We don't need machine to think like humans, we need them lessen our burden.
@sayantanmazumdar3
@sayantanmazumdar3 Год назад
There are different subsets of what we generalize as 'A.I.' Machine learning is just one of them.
@dydx_
@dydx_ Год назад
" people don't care about AI until it comes for their profession" What is your point here? That people only think about themselves? Because no, AI/robots replacing us is a very common fear, so common it is depicted through almost every sci-fi movie/book there is. People only have a limited amount of attention, they do care but obviously have other stuff they care about more or other responsibilities they need to take care of. To say what you said here just makes me ask the question, why? Even if it were to be true, why mention it? Are you insinuating that they would've deserved it because of this and if not why even mention it? Sounds to me like you just didn't think, just like how you try to downplay the situation as "not the stuff in fiction" as if anyone cares about this because what everyone is afraid of is the inevitable replacement of their jobs at an age where they do not have enough neurons left over to learn a new profession and that you will not no which profession will be axed. Hell, for just being "machine learning" it already fucks up the art world a lot. So, maybe don't downplay it?
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
@@dydx_ Then what are you going to do? Removed technology so that every fabric needs to be sewed by hands so that factories have to employ thousands for the manual labour and garmet cost like a small bike? The modern consumerism world isn't perfect but it's much better than the pre-industry era. And we're able to achieve this level of quality of life because of progress in efficiency and productivity. There's a reason everybody can own a computer in the palm of their hands and not having to pay an equivalent to a mortgage for the privilege.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
@@dydx_ bro just butthurt that a computer can now make doodles as good as him LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
@pepperbytez8128
@pepperbytez8128 Год назад
I'm worried about the bigger picture of AI being too close to humanity.
@ccengineer5902
@ccengineer5902 Год назад
*surpassing
@IR-Fan
@IR-Fan Год назад
*replacing
@Zen-zt4uk
@Zen-zt4uk Год назад
*further beyond
@raixeon
@raixeon Год назад
@@Zen-zt4uk AI goes SSJ3
@cadequillion5276
@cadequillion5276 Год назад
The issue I have with AI art is that technology development is exponential. I've seen artwork generated by putting 20 of their favorite artist's Instagram art into a generator and making artwork based on their style that looks VERY similar. Imagine in 5 years, AI essentially replacing an freelance artist from a project because one can use AI are to generate your own style with the argument of "inspiration" being used. Google has invested MILLIONS recently into AI tools now and I can see in a decade's time max all the concept art for an animated movie being done with AI tools without a single artist being needed. Thats just terrifying to me
@anonymousanonymous31
@anonymousanonymous31 Год назад
Who's going to supervise AI output to ensure it's of a consistent and high enough quality? Someone who understands art, art direction, is able to touch up and correct and improve AI output. AI is built on statistical models, which by their mathematical nature can never be 100% perfect, because 0% and 100% don't exist in statistics. There will always be a human element (especially in art, because art is subjective), just a human that will be massively more productive. Just like today, one farmer can work a field that a hundred farmers would have needed to 200 years ago, a job that would have taken 10 artists and 2 years will be done by 1 artist in a couple weeks. Tech progresses, improves human productivity, removes redundant work, and frees humans up to do more and better. New jobs ALWAYS replace old ones, this has been the case for human history ever since hunter-gatherers became obsolete.
@dydx_
@dydx_ Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 "progresses, improves human productivity, removes redundant work, and frees humans up to do more and bette" yeah that's the lie you tell yourself because you don't understand the economics of capitalism properly. Automation takes away jobs, heightens the ceiling of entry because of educational requirements, and further seeks to divide the wealth gap. You believe in an idea that capitalist pursuit creates better products, but alas it creates only a better way to horde and extort capital. (Not even going to go in further beyond a mention on the exploitation of third world countries that make sustaining our current environment even possible, and that the only way out of capitalism is imperialism and I don't want another transatlantic slave trade incident, do you?) Video games are a splendid example for this exploitation. They do not improve, they remove features, maps, ideas, the very innovation capitalism promises to deliver because we know of our brains and the psychological tricks to manipulate them. This was a Pandora's box, it won't stop. Those Psychological factors are already baked into the structure of games, not just an after thought anymore. Pokemon, do you know why their games are trash each year? Because they have to release every two years alongside the anime, plush, and all other forms of merch. AI will not improve your life, and the entire corpus of our history is there to prove it. I suggest you do brush up on this in your spare time because with idealism you create more problems than you intend to solve and most likely you'll end up like most adults when you inevitably come to the realization of the damage done, your washed out enough by that time to just accept it in bleak nihilism. Alphabet (Google) recently cut off 6% of their workforce because of recessionary environments, and it plans to make up for it by replacing these jobs via further developing their AI-systems. Where is this progress you speak of here? This isn't Sci-Fi, or a future, this was the past a couple days ago. PS: mentioning jobs and hunter-gathers is a little embarrassing, mainly because we still have hunters and we still have gathers and even more so, being a hunter in a caveman society wasn't a job because the concept of "job" doesn't exist in small groups... you are being anachronistic here as well as engaging with presentism.
@cadequillion5276
@cadequillion5276 Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 What you are referring to is an art director not an artist. An art director just determines the direction and makes tiny touch ups without actually needing to go in and actually bring a vision into the work. They don't need to have any art background to even do that job. Any project typically has several artists and then one are director. AI just eliminates those artist and just has the art director work in a vacuum which is a role you can put any "suit" in after he does a quick tutorial in photoshop
@chibiusa
@chibiusa Год назад
@@cadequillion5276 An art director most definitely needs to have an art background and many, many years of experience as an artist/designer, because oftentimes, they do the initial storyboarding/concept art/color palettes to set the tone of what they're going for, then hire on other artists (with styles that align closely with theirs) to flesh out their vision. Their main responsibility is to keep all of the visuals consistent in style and tone, but they are still an artist at their core. You must have an extensive art portfolio to even be hired on as an art director. No "suit" with zero Photoshop skills would be able to handle this role, ESPECIALLY if they know nothing about color theory, which AI will not and cannot help you with. They will end up having a bad time with the director for doing such a terrible job.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
@@dydx_ If you don't like it go live with the hunter gatherers then lmao
@Man-O-Little-Tan
@Man-O-Little-Tan Год назад
The whole ai art thing is that even when other artists emulate each other they still have their own style, the ai literally copies the style and art, it is genuinely stealing it and not being inspired by it it just takes what someone else did and then made the same thing and claimed it as its own
@azraieruslim
@azraieruslim Год назад
Just think of it this way, The invention of camera and photography claims the job of portraiture and landscape artist, but the art of it never died, it evolved into a much finer art. The invention of fine art AI now claiming the job of creative artist, but I believe in the power of human innovation, we will find other ways to convert how we make use of our creative skill. This applies to other branches of AI as well.
@sanjivinsmoke2719
@sanjivinsmoke2719 Год назад
Wait what? Portraiture nd landscape artist are extinct. They moved to fantasy. Now it can pretty much do all types of arts. Just like how workers will be removed from factories that will be completely automated by ai same will happene will artist in general
@KitStellae
@KitStellae Год назад
I think one of the main issues of AI art, that I think Joey didn't necessarily realize, is that AI art steals, compiles, and synthesizes art pieces together, while artists "steal" or trace for practice, but only reference for their own pieces. The more prominent AI essentially take all the art it's been given and find a way to essentially merge the pieces together through the use of things like the content aware patch tool on Photoshop in order to make a coherent piece. Artists will look at reference images to gain insight and/information about an aspect they would like in their own pieces, such as referencing a pose or piece of clothing. Some people may argue "but there are artists that trace work and claim it as their own", and to that I say, yes there are, but they aren't seen in a positive manner. I think it's important to understand what AI art can essentially bring to the field of art, however, like the boys mentioned, the problematic issue is that these AI programs have been stealing (again, stealing, not referencing, as in they are taking images that already exist and just meshing them together, not making something from scratch) without the given consent of the artists.
@Scarshadow666
@Scarshadow666 Год назад
Yeah, pretty much describes what my fears of AI art is. It pretty much bulldozes itself into a copyright and ownership minefield, and harms artists that make their living online... 0_0
@KingButcher
@KingButcher Год назад
These ML models don't "merge art together like a photoshop tool". The process is closer to recording patterns in the data you feed it and using that to extrapolate / filter the outcome based on your prompt. What comes out at the end is effectively made from scratch, with the "person" being the model's weights and the "references" being the input prompt and art.The extent to which they "steal" is the same as humans; people just have a lot more input data (their life experiences) than current ML models do.
@mushfiqalam97
@mushfiqalam97 Год назад
Connor talks like as if AI has not surpassed humans at games like chess and mario literally decades back. Sethbling literally created a SELFLEARNING AI that learns from ITSELF and can do mario speedruns.
@sayantanmazumdar3
@sayantanmazumdar3 Год назад
We already had IBM Deep Blue in 1997 that made headlines of the news. It just kept progressing since then.
@sayantanmazumdar3
@sayantanmazumdar3 Год назад
You mean neural network?
@tongshengwu171
@tongshengwu171 Год назад
@@sayantanmazumdar3 🤓
@birdytiger
@birdytiger Год назад
I'll be over here, creating because I want to, regardless of AI. This argument keeps on being framed purely by people who rely on creation for their paycheck and yes, it's of course going to be stressful. But like painting turning to the readymade, getting called not art and to photography, which got called not art, it's just another step people will have to figure a way around. There will be more versions of this in the future.
@Conartist666
@Conartist666 Год назад
The funny thing with AI (imo) is not even that it may or may not kill the Art sector, but that it will absolutly gut the IT sector. I mean have you seen the code these things already produce?
@geistar
@geistar Год назад
I see it as a shift in specialization. Workers feared robots taking over their Jobs, and that's what happened. The same will happen to the creative field. Now there are jobs telling robots how to do the tasks. The same will be true for artists, the new artists will tell the AI how to make the art. It's not only art all jobs where you just have to refine texts or search and compile stuff or translate in real time will be replaced and many more, but that's only a bad thing because the worker's livelihood is at risk. So to not fear progress is to come up with ways to ensure the livelihood of people regardless of the job they do or don't do.
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 Год назад
Soon the programmers themselves will be replaced.
@IR-Fan
@IR-Fan Год назад
And the AI will replace humanity, and you know what... I'm fine with it.
@infinite1483
@infinite1483 Год назад
@@IR-Fan cringe imagine unironically leaving your culture to bots
@jotana_ch
@jotana_ch Год назад
I think it should be like this for youtube videos as an example: when they use your content then you should also get money from the videos in your stile.
@matten_zero
@matten_zero Год назад
What Connor was referencing at the end was AGI. We are not there yet. Currently we very sophisticated AI that can do specific tasks very well, but it doesn't mimic the human quite yet. What takes billions upon billions of computers and massive amounts of energy, your brain can do with a couple hundred calories. When we figure out AGI...well this was explored in recent GITS:SAC on Netflix.
@astronite1220
@astronite1220 Год назад
When the printing press was made what do you think happened to the book writers jobs .
@sssenseiii
@sssenseiii Год назад
They were pushed to the... Margins.
@Man-O-Little-Tan
@Man-O-Little-Tan Год назад
Most writers were just monks so i imagine they were relived, and thats not the same thing, its more like if you gave ai steven king books and started writing books that copied his exact style and attracted his fans through that
@scotcheggable
@scotcheggable Год назад
Ai will replace humans in terms of art by simply making every single possible iteration of a type of art and then rank it based on people's interaction with it. The pinnacle of art will be created and owned by machines before a human can even conceive if it.
@rangerhalt
@rangerhalt Год назад
AI art is no different than any other. Say you want to draw in the anime style, what do you have to do? You have to look at a bunch of drawings in the anime style that other people have made to figure out what it is. That’s no different than feeding an AI art to train itself on. Then you practice the art and get better at the style, the same way an AI gets fed more art, and the person tells the AI to redo a picture in a way to get it closer to what the person wants. It’s literally no different, what people are actually upset about is that it’s automated, that’s the only difference.
@SaberToothPortilla
@SaberToothPortilla Год назад
I mean, we've *sort of* had to think about it with machinization/automation in general, but at least in those cases, the process, of say, "making a car" abstracted away a lot of the individual fabrication, and a lot of people, especially now, tend to agree that this was mostly wasted work, even if it was work for people to do. I mean hell, factory jobs aren't great *now*, imagine how much worse they'd be otherwise. It feels weird, but I think we might see a similar pattern where creative work is abstracted away from manually making the thing and moved into conceptuallt developing and curating how the tools create the art, and what the tools create. As long as both can live side by side (like artisan woodworkers vs shit you get at IKEA), I don't necessarily see a problem with that, but I'm sure there's details I'm missing.
@matten_zero
@matten_zero Год назад
Ghost in the Shell SAC (all of it including Netflix) should be required watching for every anime fan concerned about the future of humanity and AI. Will it be a utopia or more like a Blade Runner world?
@KappaTensi
@KappaTensi Год назад
That's impossibile for at least the next 10 years coz youtubers like you have carisma and hirony. It's not only inform people about places etc. You're great also because you're friends each other so this alchemy make your show so special
@englishchannels2646
@englishchannels2646 Год назад
Wow connor wearing something other than a purple t-shirt
@blenderpanzi
@blenderpanzi Год назад
There are many problems with "AI art". One is if it is eventually really good and cheap and easy to use and basically any art is just made using AI anymore... that is the end of art. Because it can only do things it learned form human artists. Now that humans can't make art for a living anymore there is no new learning high quality material to feed it to anymore and we're stagnant on that level. AI art being stagnant might in a way already start to happen, since the internet and certain art websites get completely flooded with AI generated art now, often without it being marked as such. So if the AIs still are trained on the images from the internet they now train on their own output and thus their skills may actually be declining. Maybe. Just something to think about.
@matten_zero
@matten_zero Год назад
This is all one step in Human Instrumentality. I'm surprised they didn't use anime as a lens to explore this topic in a way that could really sink in where we are headed.
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 Год назад
Rig an AI that give motion prompt to a 3D model and have a chat AI added to it. Its probably doable soon.
@pennyinheaven
@pennyinheaven Год назад
Imo, one of the problems lies on where and how AI gets the data. If an artist says the program is stealing their art, the next question I can think of is where and how was the art uploaded? If it's on a public platform and the consent the artist relying on is through direct message then generally speaking, that uploaded file is for public use, technically anyone can download it. And another one is if AI art is used for profit, like another artist claiming its original but it was actually AI or selling merch and stuff with the generated art on it. I think, without those issues above, there shouldn't be an issue with AI art existing.
@spiderdude2099
@spiderdude2099 Год назад
AI brings up the uncomfortable suggestion that humanity can eventually, one day, be completely understood and broken down into its component parts and remixed and reassembled into something completely indistinguishable from the real thing. And I think that thought scares people. And before, in history, there was always the disconnect of "well it's not THAT faithful, it doesn't look THAT close to the real thing". Nowadays, that line is getting ever blurred. Also I don't even think there's anything wrong with saying "humans aren't special and everything that we know as "uniquely human" isn't actually unique and can be replicated with an algorithm". In a way there's a strange peace to that realization. There isn't anything that doesn't follow predictable laws of nature
@hatshijiro2172
@hatshijiro2172 Год назад
I don't want to not be able to differentiate between a human and a robot... That sounds scary If they become able to portray emotions in the future people will get attached to them We will probably get to a point where people would start talking about giving an AI human rights and shit
@anonymousanonymous31
@anonymousanonymous31 Год назад
Are you afraid of not being able to differentiate between a mathematical equation that was solved by a human vs a calculator/program? I don't think anyone is. AI is a tool, just like how calculators are. Sure, AI already got to the point that someone made a waifu out of ChatGPT and NovelAI, so we're already at the point of AI making some humans emotionally attached. But AI is fundamentally different from humans. Humans cannot be switched on/off, reprogrammed, recompiled, retrained, developed, deleted (unless killed), do not rely on electricity. AI is just 0s and 1s at the end of the day, it's all just statistics, probability, math, and computers. We're fundamentally different from AI, so this fear of AI is completely irrational, it's just the fear of the unknown, the fear of change. No different from boomers being afraid of modern technology because they don't understand it.
@hatshijiro2172
@hatshijiro2172 Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 I guess that's true but it is taking my job away lol
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad Год назад
I mean, if they're indistinguishable from humans then they would deserve rights wouldn't they?
@hatshijiro2172
@hatshijiro2172 Год назад
@@WanderTheNomad you got a point lol, but no am talking about something close enough to human, that people would be tricked into thinking it feels emotions when it actually doesn't, believing that it loves you and care about you when it actually doesn't even know what that means... It would be sad... And kinda scary, getting attached to something that is a lie.
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad Год назад
@@hatshijiro2172 pretty sure there are already some humans like that 🤔
@baoweexd
@baoweexd Год назад
"Hopefully AI wont say anything racist. Heres the thing how do you cancel an AI?" uhmm Neuro Sama's ban made this comment not age too well...
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
Ban it, or plug it off and hope there's no backup on a different device 😂
@IR-Fan
@IR-Fan Год назад
For me its Tay AI Chatbot. That's a big yikes.
@mattbaltimore7195
@mattbaltimore7195 Год назад
If it's possible, isn't there'll be a program made to detect if it's A.I. generated or not????
@blenderpanzi
@blenderpanzi Год назад
In this context I remembered two (or more) videos of Robert Miles: Reward Hacking: Concrete Problems in AI Safety Part 3 Reward Hacking Reloaded: Concrete Problems in AI Safety Part 3.5
@skullknight4579
@skullknight4579 Год назад
Imagin if some trained a ai to sound like giguk, and used it to prank call all over the country
@IllustriousElucidation
@IllustriousElucidation Год назад
I checked Uberduck still has Text-to-speech A.I Gigguk.
@amaras.4500
@amaras.4500 Год назад
I've heard that one of the main issues with AI Art stuff includes works being taken and used for training *without knowledge and or permission of the artists* **and they're requiring money to be spent to use the AI** That's why it's being seen as a threat. I'm sure there's more to it, it IS a complicated situation, but that's one of the primary things I've seen people say I think AI can be an awesome tool, but it shouldn't be used to hurt people
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro Год назад
if you ask me this whole controversy has gotten people talking in ways we have been avoiding for too long I for one am glad we are having these conversations
@Eiikk
@Eiikk Год назад
we're all gonna starve fr
@anonymousanonymous31
@anonymousanonymous31 Год назад
Old jobs always go away with time, and new jobs come in to replace them. That's why you aren't swinging a pickaxe in a mine or a hoe in a field for a living. Tech progress improves everyone's lives.
@6thour592
@6thour592 Год назад
15:10 connor n joey almost sync
@nightmagnus7595
@nightmagnus7595 Год назад
One thing AI is incapable of understanding is themes and meaning. Sure, it can pump out some 9-thumbed reaper with a inverse reflected sickle when you promt it with "death" but it won't understand what or why it's made it. Especially the little nerd behind the keyboard, as they're just trying to force an idea into a machine that cannot comprehend it, like those guys that start kickstarters to make an mmo before they've coded hello world. It's just vapid and soulless pretty picture.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
The boys really out here acting like we’ll wake up in 2 years and half of RU-vid will be ai generated videos.
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
You never know...
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
@@orsaz924 While ai generated "videos" will likely exist fairly soon. I really don't think there's gonna be a model that can create full-on videos that actually have a story and structure in the next couple of years. Current computing probably isn't capable of training the model on a data set large enough.
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
@@maxxtrollster4730 That indeed sounds unlikely but future developments in technology are unpredictable. Two years ago, nobody could have guessed ChatGPT would be a thing.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
@@orsaz924 there’s a lot of people who weren’t surprised by the advent of a model as good as gpt-3.5 Including myself…
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
@@maxxtrollster4730 Fair enough, I didn't think about that. With that said, in my mind, not being surprised by something is different from expecting it.
@broofallbros3036
@broofallbros3036 Год назад
Efficency is for us to do more work, not less...
@Sai4651
@Sai4651 10 месяцев назад
My biggest problem with the lopsided anti-AI argument is that a lot of people are using the "It's stealing" argument when that opens a pandora's box about fair use and what we consider stealing. To me, people aren't seeing the forest through the trees and the real problems with AI that Connor and Garnt have a good understanding of. To me, the biggest concern is that will it take away jobs and will corporations use it to replace workers. Now, this was already a problem with automation and most people didn't care because people viewed that as unskilled labor. To me, this is absolutely a problem regarding where we're going as a society because ultimately AI will replace other jobs as well. It's been slowly happening for years with the advancement of technology and now it's becoming more personal. I love that these guys are having a complex and nuanced conversation about it. Regarding AI art, voices, songs, and animation. The problem isn't that it exists, it's whether or not company's will monetize it and basically obliterate entire fields of work to save money. It's why I wish we had laws restricting these technologies to prevent, however most countries are terrible at creating laws regarding new technologies. Wanna be clear, I'm not advocating for the banning of these technologies because that will never happen, however there has to be some protection for the workers in these fields.
@Keni2431
@Keni2431 Год назад
A.l isn’t that powerful because I see the common things like different facing directions most of em I seen is face tors you or looking at 3/4 angle and the part that Joey said something there are artist that steal art like there’s yes and no at the same time a lot references that artist like too use is Pinterest sometimes if that person finds a reference pose that looks good and then made as art post it any social media there’s may be a someone can call you out for stealing. If wanna post some art I would wanna post that reference of irl person doing a pose at the same time
@MageOfLuck
@MageOfLuck Год назад
The good thing is that ai cannot create anything new that isn’t already pre-existing information in our world. That’s also why I don’t think they can be called artists. I prefer to think of humans as beings whose sense of real imagination knows no bounds.
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
I am pretty sure they totally can. If they mix up enough artworks, and then mix up some more from the new set of artwork they created, eventually they will reach the point where their art no longer resemble any of the existing human's and became the new original. That's pretty much how you train AI.
@Solitudevv
@Solitudevv Год назад
That's not completely true either though, human imagination is not boundless. The only TRUE creativity you'll get is if you set a person who has been blind from birth, to draw. Our creativity works off of already existing rules and concepts. You can make up new worlds, you can make up new designs and ideas, but the core of everything is things you have seen before and know the rules of. Think of it like colour theory, you can make original colour schemes, atmospheres, combinations, techniques that ultimately makes your style yours. What you cannot do, is make new colours 'cause you've never seen them before.
@chainsawkas7545
@chainsawkas7545 Год назад
I'm no artist, but beginner artists try to mimic art pieces that are somewhat famous, at least that's what I heard
@Man-O-Little-Tan
@Man-O-Little-Tan Год назад
Yes, in their own style, they don't use that style as the exact mathematic basis of their algorithm to copy the mona lisa
@DinoVT
@DinoVT Год назад
Does anyone have a link to the clip of the "AI vtuber" mentionning Joey? Can't find anything. Edit : I think it's this ? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wqetPwdDJHQ.html But she doesn't mention it on her own, she's just reading a question from chat, and doesn't know about Joey.
@paragonofprogress
@paragonofprogress Год назад
Time to become a hairstylist!
@sanjivinsmoke2719
@sanjivinsmoke2719 Год назад
Plot twist : open ai launches a hair dresser robot that can do all type of air in 2029. The first ai robot fully automated hairstylist 🤣
@paragonofprogress
@paragonofprogress Год назад
@@sanjivinsmoke2719 We shall see about that! I'm not sure if I'd trust a robot with scissors near my face lol
@TheBestComicKing
@TheBestComicKing 9 месяцев назад
As an Artist, I honestly don't have problem with A.I. Art program if it's just used for fun, and it's defiantly not gonna completely replace human artists. My only problem is people are gonna exploit it as their Ghost Artist and profit out of it. I can imagine DC or Marvel Comics would do that to make their comics, but those former artists and writers who are passionate about making comics would produce their own stuff A.I. might not be able to replicate.
@skalman5647
@skalman5647 Год назад
Eventually we will get to a point where machines will make machines that make machines that make machines and so on for infinite technological advancement
@abdulrhman7448
@abdulrhman7448 Год назад
17:55 It is already exist lol just look at hollow knight speed running and you will find that the real speed runners are learning from the ai just like chess
@OWLHRS
@OWLHRS Год назад
music is not complicated for an ai to make
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
The only reason why AI learning hasn't developed yet is because the Music Industry's strict copyright laws. Art isn't as strict so they can just steamroll over that community/industry.
@ninjaydes
@ninjaydes Год назад
The way art-type AI are currently, there's way more copying than new originality being born. In which case, yeah, the people who made the initial material that trained the AI are suffering the most, especially if they didn't consent to having their work shared & especially if they get nothing back in compensation. It all depends on who is getting to use and sell the technology at the very end of the day. It'd suck for programming to be the only good job in the future, when not everyone wants to do that. But advanced in AI have lots of positives. We do want robots to do things like surgery and menial work better and faster than humans can. For the latter, it would help if governments shifted to a system where people could have a good quality of life without doing work that is repetitive and degrading, or work that involves a lot of waiting and faking.
@otakugamer616
@otakugamer616 Год назад
Connor watches BBW same lol
@ManjigumiVirus
@ManjigumiVirus Год назад
UBI is not coming soon when we need it and we are already losing jobs
@ssage7808
@ssage7808 Год назад
How hard is it to simply not suppory/ limit ai? We dont have to prepare the rope to hang ourselves with if we simply just put the rope down
@lizardwizard8930
@lizardwizard8930 Год назад
also probably programmers are gonna be replaced unfortunately
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
Bro nothing safe at this point I’m currently in community college trying to figure out what I’m gonna do originally thinking about going into art but now idk and nothing else seems appealing
@lizardwizard8930
@lizardwizard8930 Год назад
@@mooseboose656 damn. Good luck figuring out your career I unfortunately can't give you any good advice..
@pakeshde7518
@pakeshde7518 Год назад
I love the folks who already made their pile saying * oh these jobs that are being robot replaced just free those folks to go relearn everything for a new job*. Yeah really easy to say on your pile of cash, most folks do not have a pile to coast on much less at a older age can just relearn a whole new job. And hope that it too is not robot replaced.
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
That’s why I hate the whole machines make new jobs bc it straight up doesn’t something that needed 10 people now only needs 2 and a machine to do the rest
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
Just leaves everyone scrabbling to get a new job
@conversationclub8230
@conversationclub8230 Год назад
Time to regulate and create new laws to protect people against ai and robots, imagine what till people do when there are no jobs left and the politicians dont need you anymore.
@RadenWA
@RadenWA Год назад
Is it not possible for a future where AI _helps_ artists instead of replacing them? What if artists trains AI on the library of their _own_ work accumulated throughout the years and then have a personalized assistant that can help them generate poses/setting, line, color or shade in their style? Sure it’s lazy but at least it is rightfully theirs and not stolen. It reminds me of the tweening technology in 2D Animation where artists still hand-draw the main poses then the AI just auto copies and fills in all the hundreds of drawings between.
@Koolboom123
@Koolboom123 Год назад
To me its strange how no ones cares that normal production jobs in factory’s got automated and a bunch of people lost their jobs due to robots but now that its are and computer artist are all upset people care about other people livelihoods
@mehmetsamilayoz8203
@mehmetsamilayoz8203 Год назад
Ppl can talk all they want in the end AI is still working on datasets right at this moment and will in the future. It will be over so quick ppl wont have time to react to it. It is like how computers and IC engines killed a lot of jobs but created new jobs that is the way of things what can you do. The moment a machine is cheaper than labor a laborer will be replaced that's the way of things.
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
I hate the whole machines make new jobs because it straight up doesn’t something that used to take a team of 10 to do something only takes 1 or 2 people and a machine to do it just leaves everyone else scrambling to find another Job and hope it doesn’t happen again
@dacracking5768
@dacracking5768 Год назад
Guys… I just want hot takes on horrible food things 😂😂
@klascom1
@klascom1 Год назад
Why are we complaining about A.I. music like musicians have never been worked over by the system before? You can already go to places online and find music to punch into projects for free or next to it. And that music is going to be just as good as music made by A.I. I'm less familiar with other art mediums but I'm willing to bet that there are probably a few similarities in that regard. I think the thing to really consider is that people are more interested in the artist rather than the art. If the novelty of consuming A.I. art is the attraction, then the people in that market weren't interested in people-made art to begin with
@matten_zero
@matten_zero Год назад
I'm surprised they didn't use anime to address this: Ghost in the Shell Cyberpunk (still need to see it) Kino no Tabi This is the trans/post human future we are headed towards. The transition will be scary but perhaps this is just a journey in our evolution.
@WillWorkForRic3
@WillWorkForRic3 Год назад
I've noticed in a number of TT videos where Joey seems to follow the Bandwagon Effect attitude where his reasonings are "Everyone else is doing it, it's fine if I do it" where Garnt has to reel back the convo and balance things out. Joey's young, and I don't know if that's how he really is or if it's an Anime Man thing, but it's starting to grind my gears.
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
I don’t think you can use his age as an excuse Conner is younger yet doesn’t do the same
@CapytanCrimp
@CapytanCrimp Год назад
We just keep moving the goalposts, but the end is inevitable unless we extinction before technology figures it out. "when an AI can beat a human at chess" "when an AI can pass a Turing test" "when an AI can beat a human at MOBAs" "when an AI can copy an art style" "when an AI can create a replace a character in a movie" "when an AI can mimic a human's voice" "when an AI can run it's own RU-vid channel and social media" "when an AI can write it's own code" "when an AI can register a website" "when an AI can run for political office"...
@freecake1
@freecake1 Год назад
bruh we got ai beating starcraft champions. watching the wrong ai train. google also has mined diamond in MC after 4 weeks of training.
@Minstra
@Minstra Год назад
OSU PLAYERS RISE UP WEVE BEEN MENTIONED
@Pontifex_871
@Pontifex_871 Год назад
and then humans will dare ask the question when an ALICE gets made, "are you gonna take over the world? or what's your goal?" when it was humans that made them so smart and so humanlike in the first place.
@Haph3us
@Haph3us Год назад
So when's the AI generated podcast after you have it watch every single trash taste?
@ClasherofWorlds
@ClasherofWorlds Год назад
NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@Mojomanultra
@Mojomanultra Год назад
im already tired of ai art it was fun but now it is just same same nothing special
@sisyphus52
@sisyphus52 Год назад
it’s not that it’s difficult to face the fact that human artists also steal human artists’ art. the art community absolutely hates tracers and will expose one immediately. the fact is that AI art steals artists’ art without crediting them and it makes profit, a lot of profit. you might argue it’s the same with tracers’ profit but no. eventually tracers stop making money bc enough people come together to expose them, which throws off the “defending” party with AI art, the majority of people support it. just because of entertainment purposes. humans tend to not care abt others’ misfortunes if you’re not in their shoes. not all people of course but most. and THAT’S a hard fact to face.
@etixyos278
@etixyos278 Год назад
And remember to make people pay to use the AI. You don't ask for permission or pay the stuff the AI steals. You don't even pay the AI. Because as an AI creator, you are the one saying what it is supposed to do, and the one with the money and no responsibility.
@anonymousanonymous31
@anonymousanonymous31 Год назад
It costs money to develop, train, and run the AI on hardware which costs money and electricity that costs money.
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 They still aren't taking the moral responsibilities.
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 Год назад
@@anonymousanonymous31 non of the cost seem to go paying the source that allow their AI to learn.
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd Год назад
@@triggerfairy4070 why should they. do u pay for the youtube tutorial?
@triggerfairy4070
@triggerfairy4070 Год назад
@@QWERTY-gp8fdYT tutorials are monitized and has ads, so technically my views give them revenue.
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow
biggest thing is the consent. As an artist it's the lack of consent that is alarming.
@xXDESTINYMBXx
@xXDESTINYMBXx Год назад
Clickbait?
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
Joey's right though, you already created arts by replicating other people arts anyway. Just look at how much Isekai/shounen being pumped out using the same story over and over. If AI can create their original work (let's say they contain less than 10 percent elements exact match to any of the existing artwork from its database), that's a fair game. Imagine you, be able to create your very own anime series, all by yourself, by just came up with a story and let the AI do all of the character design and frame drawing. That's the kind of thing you can do with AI productivity. If art production became cheaper, then the product you bought will become cheaper, then more of them can be made. That's an overall improvement to the consumer.
@imakazarami5666
@imakazarami5666 Год назад
The genie is already out of the bottle. Artists can complain but their artworks are already out there in the internet where someone somewhere will user for their own purposes (AI learning, NFTs, video game art, etc). Hell, maybe the safest way to protect your art is to watermark the fuck out of it.
@tintenklexs7112
@tintenklexs7112 Год назад
There is AI to remove watermarks.
@lechon.
@lechon. Год назад
eh this argument is like putting circles in square holes, they're talking about two different things to each other
@marcorodriguez8792
@marcorodriguez8792 Год назад
A.I. did nothing wrong
@mooseboose656
@mooseboose656 Год назад
No but how people are using it are
@Daniel..Lobo..
@Daniel..Lobo.. Год назад
A.I could never steal the artists' job. I could give a whole explanation about it, but if you do enough research, an in depth one, about art and how various art movements came to be, you will quickly figure out how incorrect is that statement. A.I could never create a new way of viewing the world/ create a new way of making art. And even if robots are used to make art it requires the hand of an artist to limit what the machine can or cannot do (search artists like Ryoji Ikeda or Leonel Moura to understand what I've said).
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
I'm no expert, but the moment someone would create a new art movement, people could train AI to replicate said art movement
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
In a way AI "Art" already is a world view changing movement wheather we like it or not. But I think you are looking at this too much through the lens of a "transitional, classically trained artist". It's not going to replace a "modern Divinci", it's going to replace the majority of comercial artist jobs. The jobs that were actually attainable for an average artist.
@Daniel..Lobo..
@Daniel..Lobo.. Год назад
@@ShadowEclipex yeah, i agree with you in the part of the commercial artists. But usually this conversation has the object on The Art World, as if the art world is only illustrative/digital art, which is more image oriented, for the most part, human sensibility driven art is forgotten on the conversation, which A.I can't replace or even achieve...
@Daniel..Lobo..
@Daniel..Lobo.. Год назад
@@orsaz924 but that only proves my point, A.I needs artists to "replicate"
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
@@Daniel..Lobo.. True
@jross7287
@jross7287 Год назад
Gonna have to hard disagree with Joey. Human artists use other art as references or inspiration, that’s not stealing because they are still producing an original piece by themselves. AI art is going through a database which includes other peoples art to produce an original art piece, that’s stealing because the art that was used directly contributed into the creation of the piece.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 Год назад
Thats not how AI art works.
@kunjugaming885
@kunjugaming885 Год назад
Skill issue
@NerdSpeak
@NerdSpeak Год назад
There are so many things that AI art can be used for in a good way AS A TOOL. But right now, artists need safeguards to protect their intellectual property because a person working to replicate a style is inherently different from using a computer to mathematically copy it. Just because a computer CAN use that data to create something you’d argue is transformative, that doesn’t mean it’s right to train it on that dataset in the first place because it is effectively stealing. That’s why Joey playing devil’s advocate here is wrong and makes me feel bad.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 Год назад
It's not inherently different at all lol.
@brianmartinez7246
@brianmartinez7246 Год назад
First
@slavetotheseo4127
@slavetotheseo4127 Год назад
The ai theft issue is the same when people in factories were being replaced by machine technically the machine is doing the things people were doing ..and the engineers "stole" the mechanism and implemented in machines... it's not morally or anything.. people are just scared to accept their inadequacy
@dacracking5768
@dacracking5768 Год назад
Creative jobs are the last thing to be taken over. I don’t think it’s possible. There’s a personality aspect of it that the ai can never touch
@bob1986
@bob1986 Год назад
Yeah if AI can progress enough to have an actual personable personality similar to many creative types then technology and society will have progressed to the point where work is basically redundant and pointless.
@sssenseiii
@sssenseiii Год назад
@@bob1986 A vast ammount of jobs today are wothless, we could replace a bunch of jobs with programs (that actually work better than people) but the economy would collapse. 100% of every cashier, every person working a phone, a computer, any bank work, paperwork, even service work is really not necesary for 99% of people, just pull your cheeseburger out of the vending machine.
@noob-zx4cv
@noob-zx4cv Год назад
i think Connor just gave every single single fan of progressive rock an aneurysm with his first take about music.
@gamedev251
@gamedev251 Год назад
AI art doesn't just learn it absorbs every pixel it can and bit of info. Artists do not do that and historically this has been a problem with a lot of inventions - is it ok to replicate someone elses hard work? Sure philosophically out of context its not a problem because we are all just learning from each other bla bla but practically we do not have support systems in society that can support this.. who will feed and protect individuals when people with more resources and power steal their work? Everything around us is protected by patents and copyright, medicine, clothing, food.. artists are getting a shit deal atm.
@Jay_Wolfe
@Jay_Wolfe Год назад
Humans can create art from what they see and they can generate their own style from nothing. AI art doesn’t create its own art style. It needs to steal styles and merge to make something “original”. But without the original styles, it’s going to create nothing.
@e21big
@e21big Год назад
We totally can't create our own style from nothing. Trying to copy other style is literally the purpose of an art school
@Jay_Wolfe
@Jay_Wolfe Год назад
@@e21big cave paintings, sarcophagi, totem poles, tattoos. Individual expressions of what is seen in the world, all can be created by humans without stylistic input. A person can have an drawing style of their own without seeing any other drawings. If that wasn’t possible, then art schools wouldn’t exist.
@ihopeugetcancer
@ihopeugetcancer Год назад
@@Jay_Wolfe Point is literally 90% of artists either merge styles or use others' styles
@Jay_Wolfe
@Jay_Wolfe Год назад
@@ihopeugetcancer but not all. With an ai, it’s 100%
@ihopeugetcancer
@ihopeugetcancer Год назад
@@Jay_Wolfe Yeah but if what the ai is doing is morally wrong then the same goes for all those artists who do the exact same thing
@thermusaquaticusPCR
@thermusaquaticusPCR Год назад
Joey is 100% right. AI takes inspiration from the art it sees to improve itself and so do humans. And it's not just photobashing, it's a 5GB download trained off hundreds of TB of data, it can't just pull up a photo.
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
AI learning isn't the same as human learning.
@KingButcher
@KingButcher Год назад
@@ShadowEclipex What's the difference?
@ShadowEclipex
@ShadowEclipex Год назад
@@KingButcher Machines are fed data they just repeat it. Any variations coming from a preprogrammed algarithim. Humans learning is unique to every person. You can't just feed them information and expect them to regurgitate it. A Person takes the information they are given, personalize it, and then gain their own perspective on it. In art it is how new styles come about. A collection of their personal experiences Machine learning is just manufactured. No personal take, no emotion. You shouldn't even have to ask that how they are different. Just actually think about it through your personal experiences learning things and how unique it was compared to someone else's.
@theashen2019
@theashen2019 Год назад
Alright so I’m not here to have a debate, but the points that the AI program is steeling for other artists is an incorrect statement. Others have explained more clearly than I ever could, so if you’re looking for a more detailed explanation go do some research. Most AI models operate on scanning and remaking an image from the ground up. Therefore it follows the US and Europes terms of fare use as the artwork is being transformed. The AI will only “steal” another artist’s style if the user asks it too. Lastly, I haven’t tried to say anything to pick a side or anything stupid like that. I just wanted to clarify one thing and leave. If you’re looking for a debate about “what’s art?” or “is this morally right?” I really don’t care about that. I just came to correct a point that wasn’t clear in the video. If you’re looking for a fight, just leave me alone I’ve already been through both sides and it’s just depressing now.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
🤓 um, actually… Whether or not the generated art is a fair use of the LAION 5b data set is currently in litigation.
@kamicreed
@kamicreed Год назад
@@maxxtrollster4730 I know likely you're just stating a fact. But I want to just say I feel it's kind of complicated for the training dataset, since art generation if not supplied an image usually starts with a pseudo random noise vector and then passes it through layers of pre-trained weights to generate a passable image. These weights are what is being tweaked through training with a dataset, allowing certain parameters (prompts) to form the resulting image. I don't know too much about stable diffusion but it seems to work by denoising random noise towards a given text prompt to generate an image. Since it is starting from scratch, one could argue they work just like normal artists, but since the model itself encodes all of the training data in its weights, one could argue the other way.
@maxxtrollster4730
@maxxtrollster4730 Год назад
@@kamicreed bro I agree with literally everything you said chill lol
@animorypiano
@animorypiano Год назад
Well, I don't see why artists and creative people are so salty about this development. I mean it's all fair game.....Now, all of us are gonna be fucked XD
@orsaz924
@orsaz924 Год назад
Honestly fair and true
@jdg7327
@jdg7327 Год назад
If your Art can simply be replicated, duplicated... then your Art has no value at all. Anyone can replicate The Mona Lisa, but there will be only one Mona Lisa. The argument over against AI Art is so dumb. When industrialization and automation took over or is taking over the working class / labor jobs nobody of these liberal artsy bunch made a noise. Now its time for them to be in the chopping block and filter who actually has valuable Art. From soil to rocks to metals to canvas then to digital is but a transformation. Adapt or die. Many died but some adapted.
@seven8519
@seven8519 Год назад
AI art is cool, and those concerned about "moral implications" are stuffy losers. death of the artist is a concept I think these "artists" all up in arms need to look into in some depth. the moment you create art, unless you were to keep it locked away in privacy where you are the only one who can view it, it is no longer yours. when you release something out into the world, and you share that information with the rest of humanity, it will be nitpicked, taken apart, analyzed, critiqued, put under a microscope, deviated from, and you simply cannot control that. it has always been that way, and even more so now with the advent of the internet. people seem to forget most memes are made from "copyrighted" images. Should everybody who shares one of these memes be punished? in many ways this reminds me of NFT bros. "noooooooo you can't just screenshot my nft!!" "haha click save" another point to consider is plastic mold injections. all those anime figures that you love so much, at one point in time they would all have had to have been hand crafted by an artist, each one unique from the other. each one taking an exorbitant amount of time, dedication and skill to craft. this artist, would in turn, charge a much higher fee for each work. now, you just pay an artist one time to sculpt it, and then you create millions on an assembly line. sure, the artist consented to their work being copied, but if you think artists (sculptors in particular) werent up in arms over this sort of mass production which trivializes their work back in the day, you'd be mistaken. information wants to be free, it cant be stopped. sure, it can be obscured to the majority through unnatural laws and regulations we try to impose on societal levels, but we really cant control the flow of information because it goes against our very nature as humans. we have eyes and ears, we perceive the physical world around us, and we grow and change from it. art is that manifested. somebody, somewhere, no matter how much you try to set things in these little compartmentalized boxes, will get in and see whatever is inside the box, if they really want to. you cannot stop it. nobody really thinks you should support every artist out there. everybody cheats the system in some way at some point. you cant help it if you spend any time on the internet. if you like a particular artist(s) enough, then it is your duty to support that individual if you wish to see them continue to grow. I do agree, this is a thing humanity hasnt really seriously considered. we often tend to try and fight what is in our nature, sometimes for benefit and (more so) often times to our detriment. but, the ideas, the philosophy of all of this, art and regulation, has been around sense the dawn of time. I think Camus has some really interesting ideas about art and the purpose of its existence as well. why do we create art? to rebel.
@MeetFluence
@MeetFluence Год назад
Then give me jobs which can't be taken by ai What do I choose in college
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