Graeme O'Neil does a DEEP dive into the much talked-about, and yet not talked-about, moment at the 2024 Grammy Awards, where Beyonce avoided dancing with Fantasia during her Tina Turner tribute.
Fantasia did Tina and Proud Mary justice. She didn’t need any help. She has talent also. Let’s give her her props. She deserves to be recognized on her own merit. She is definitely a singer whereas some people are performers. In other words their singing is adequate. Also let’s not leave out Jennifer Hudson, Ledisi, Lisa Fisher, the late Phyliss Hyman, Anita Baker, Bunny DeBarge,Angela Bofill, Whitney Houston, Dionne Warwick, Gladys knight, my sorority sister Patty Labelle and the list goes on. All of these women can “sang” on their own. No help needed in my opinion.
I enjoyed Fantasia’s performance .I didn’t know my girl had any dance skills .This was surely a side of Fantasia I’ve never seen before.She did her thing🔥
I don't care if Beyoncé was ask first and she turned it down. Fantasia did a fantastic job. Fantasia don't need Beyonce to shine. Fantasia is real and definitely not a rude person. Fantasia kept singing and dancing. Love you Fantasia 😍
OOKKKAAAY!!! SHE DEFINITELY ISN'T GOD!! NOWHERE CLOSE!! WITH ALL THE DISGUSTING DRAMA GOING ON IN HER LIFE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE "GAY IMBECILE" THAT SHE MARRIED, NOBODY CARES ABOUT HER. I'M SO GLAD I DON'T PRAISE HER AS WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HER FAN BASE HAS DWINDLED SO MUCH SINCE A LOT OF HER NASTY/CREEPY SECRETS HAVE COME OUT! SHE'S JEALOUS OF A LOT OF OTHER ENTERTAINERS THAT SHE FEELS THREATENED BY, AND THE WAY SHE WAS LOOKING AT "FANTASIA'S ASS!", IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHE'S HIDING???🤨🤨🤨🤨
Amen she will vow her knees to the real God, Jesus Christ and he will say departed from me I never knew you you will be with your god Satan and the fallen angels.
I agree Beyoncé no more freebies but like you said she already paid tribute to Tina many times and she already said no so they shouldn’t have tried to sneak one in. But fantasia did a good job of speaking out about it. And it would have taken the spotlight off of fantasia. It was clearly done to go by Beyoncé glad she just enjoyed fantasia’s performance like everyone else did.
@@cassandrastanton7955Beyoncé is the only star rated vocalist to have debuted in the 21st century Prior century in the same category there was Mariah and Whitney This is according to vocal critics and experts Not haters or fans… So Beyoncé might not be the best singer, but she’s undoubtedly one of the best singers in the world
Right! They screwed Fantasia for years by not inviting her not only to the show, but didn’t nominate her for anything after Bittersweet! Not even to sing anything. I’m glad she said yes to sing for Tina! The world was a ale to see her again!
I think the most important thing we can all acknowledge here is that next to Tina Fantasia and Beyoncé have the legs of life, these sisters all have gorgeous legs
I get it. It makes perfect sense. Beyonce's probably tired of the Grammys trying to have viral moments off of her while she's not feeling respected. I'm not a biased Bey fan. I'm more of a Fantasia fan these days but that's messed up that after she said no the Grammys tried to use her and Fantasia as pawns. She said no stop trying to get her on it. That's good she didn't do it. No one should be forced to do anything. Especially for the Grammys ratings and headlines.
She may not have been asked first, but she was the perfect choice. Sometimes you end up with the best person that you didn’t realize was the best person. That’s my response to y’all.
Don't know why people want to try to put them against ine another. Beyonce just reacted in the moment like anyone would. Lots of good points in this video. In the industry there are strategic tactics used and Beyonce is aware of that
A person can be a great dancer when it comes to choreography, but be awkward and offbeat when it is not planned or she just wasn't interested in performing at all.
Wow Fantasia took the Q that beyoncé wasn’t interested and stayed on beat and continued to move forward with a great performance. shes professional with pure raw gifts 💜 i enjoyed your analysis on this , i never knew that this goes on behind scenes
Plain and simple.. Beyoncé did not want to dance nor be put on the spot to do so. Everybody knows she is kinda shy. Prepping to perform is one thing but being called out when you’re just trying to relax and blend in with everyone else is different.
I’m sorry. I love Fantasia. But she was not the first choice. People don’t want to give Beyonce her due and she’s tired of it. And like dude said, this was not about Fantasia. This was all about the Grammys trying to force Beyoncé’s hand. So let’s not make it about them.
@@SanjuanitaCruz You need to get over yourself. You all are mad with Beyonce becasue she gets attention from fans like she is forcing people to be fans. Grow up.
@@SanjuanitaCruz Beyoncé doesn’t need to get over herself: you do…. Beyoncé is shy and humble She doesn’t put herself out there like that to steal attention EVER Unless she’s performance
Listen. Beyoncé knows when to let someone else shine. This woman knows her worth and value. She turned it down out of respect for herself. This wasn’t about any shine. She didn’t want to shine. She knew Fantasia didn’t need her to shine. So she didn’t go at it. I love me some Beyoncé baby! I’m from Houston Texas and we support all our own. Beyonce’ is fire 🔥 and will always be! I’m a true fan and love her. I don’t idolize her but she’s a hard worker and a great entertainer. I love what Beyoncé did.
Fantasia looks beautiful and did a great job. I don’t think there’s anything wrong if Beyoncé didn’t want to dance maybe she just wanted Fantasia to enjoy her moment
Wow, and this is why there are other artists to perform; If Beyonce is a guest allow her to be normal. Beyonce can't be everything and everywhere! I'm glad that she didn't take the bait per se. This is why celebrities are breaking down due to many different issues that you all put them in. Let's just say this Fantasia did a great job.
I have watched this clip multiple times and I honestly believe Fantasia really didnt see Beyonce standing there. When she finished dancing with Dua Lipa, you can clearly see she was looking in a different direction than where Beyonce was standing. It happens all the time. 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. Everything does NOT have to be a Beyonce moment 🙄🙄
No, watching it live I was like Fantasia? What you doing trying to get that woman with the big hat blocking her whole head to dance with you and she won’t? Oh shoot it was Beyonce after the camera did a close up. She literally picked her out like some random audience member to keep the show moving. It wasn’t personal or intentional but I picked out how impersonal it looked because girl that was actually Beyonce. Weird coincidence. Not like Fantasia knew what she was gunna look like that that night. Strictly buisness. Fantasia at work. No distractions just serving us the entertainment efficiently. And did.
Girl bye, so clearly, n I'm jus tryna help YOU out when I say, clearly u jus must've not even watched this whole damn thing n jus had it out 4 B soon as u clicked on the video 🙄😮💨😤because she knew that her n her whole family were gonna b sitted there B4: guest even started to arrive because of the damn rehearsals they kept showing us she did with the pictures @ the table they was gonna b @ so bye.... Not 🚫 tryna save over cooked well done Beyonce either when I say that cause Idl her either I think she should've been had several seats yrs ago, n let somebody else that can actually sing shine, but I jus think u could've came up with something way better to say than that🤦😞😩😭🙄😮💨😤😒😑😢
This was a good video and great perspective of what many people have not realized - the freebies that performers give while not being rewarded for awards in their categories even when they deserve it
Thank you for this inside scoop. Beyonce is showing black ppl in general how we need to address this 400 year pimp game that white supremacy continues to play. #respect
I like Fantasia's voice. I like Beyoncé's voice. Simply as a singer who used to sing in church, people would constantly pit one lead singer against another. It's exhausting even at that level. I can only imagine how tiresome the comparisons are among those who make their living as singers.
Beyonce is gonna get her first album of the year for her country genre album. ❤ She didn't do the Tina tribute because she was in her country vibe to promote her new album. I already bought a cowgirl hat. I am already vibing with Beyonce ❤
I gotta get mine. I have to get ready. Oh, I need some cute cowboy boots. Or is it cowgirl boots? Girl, I don't even know, but I'm going to embrace the Country Era of Beyonce and get to know some more black folks in that genre and have a ball doing it. LOL 😄
Great point. The lady is the queen of branding and knows how to promote by staying on message, apparently. Always steps ahead. Doesn’t want to be pegged.
Fantasia is professional and excellent singer and performer. Please stop making everything about Bey🤦🏽♀️ Lets focus on the positive Congratulations Fantasia 👏🏼
After reading some of the comments, I must say this gentleman's commentary went over the heads of ALOT of people. Wow, it always amazes me how people hear what they want to hear. His message was centered around Beyonce vs. the Grammy's. Not that Fantasia couldn't shine without Beyonce or that Fantasia isn't. a great singer or performer
@@CGenuis25that’s the issue. He’s talking about bey vrs Grammys not fantasia. Fantasia is just being used as an explanation. Everything went over your heads. Listen again
This video was very well done. I loved the editing and receipts sir. This video was shady but accurate. I'm looking for Fantasia to honor Patti Labelle because that performance has Fantasia's name all over it 👏🏽 👏🏽
She already has serenaded her & Patti loved it. Look on you tube! Plus Stevie Wonder. Fantasia is a powerhouse who has not been given the opportunities Beyonce has. Thanks to Oprah, the Color Purple movie shined a brighter 💜 lite on Fantasia for all to re-see! Onward/ Upward Fantasia, more roles, music, grammys!!!!
The comments are crazy. He NEVER EVER bashed Fantasia. He was simply making an observation and backed it with facts... Fantasia did an excellent job, and Beyonce played the Grammy's... 🤷🏾♀️.
Why? To see her spend millions n production with lack luster singing once again? Please stop. Name me one time Beyoncé did a better tribute on earth than Fantasia
@timleggett8194 Why must we constantly bait our black female artists against each other? Beyonce said no and Fantasia said yes and did a fantastic show! The Grammy's are all about the Grammy's. Beyonce should have one at least one album of the year award. She owes the Grammy's nothing.
One can not Blame Beyoncé, if what you saying is correct, She Owe the Grammy Nothing…And Besides Fantasia is A Phenomenal Woman that has Held her Own through out her Career..❤❤ Two of America Black Queens in Entertainment..
@@whisk3825 The Queen wants the respect they give to mediocre artists like Taylor Swift or Adele by awarding her Album of The Year. They work nowhere near as hard as she does on her craft!
@@GaryTornado-zy2mz It's ok to agree to disagree. Lololol I still say Fantasia and Jennifer Hudson singing voice is much better than Beyoncé any day. No need to show all your skin jumping around stage and fake hair to be talented.
Beyoncé deserves the album of the year for lemonaid and renaissance! They are tripping for not giving her album of the year. And she should have won best new artist when she released her solo album. The Grammys are tripping.
This breakdown offered a lot of insight. The Grammy’s is obsessed with Beyoncé but they know that she got snubbed for album of the year on multiple occasions. They do it all of the time to black artist so it’s no surprise to anyone. I don’t know why our people put so much weight on that award anyway. I’m glad that Bey stood her ground and Fantasia also ate that performance.
Fantasia's performance was fantastic! Beyoncé don't owe the Grammys SHIT! I'm glad she shunned them and used them as a stepping stone in her rollout to her country album. BOOP!
Sellout with that country crap!! She don't represent for anyone anymore....all about those dollars. The devil will give you everything and take your soul in exchange.
After having been through my fair share of leeches in my own life, I have started taking a step back quietly and graciously just like Beyoncé. One gets drained to the point where there's nothing left to give and one can only slip into self-preservation mode because people have proven that they wouldn't even help fill your cup once they have emptied it. Instead, they would deplete you and turn on you afterwards. Someone reminded my non-religious self of a verse that says something like 'don't cast your pearls to the pigs because they will trample on them and turn on you.' Beyoncé had identified the 'pigs' in her world and she treats them accordingly. Look what happened to Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. I love that she continues to be gracious to people personally but gives nothing to these vultures. Good on her! Fantasia was great by the way ❤
@@zarario4444 People all over the world have similar experiences, there's nothing weird about it. Get over your close mindedness just because it's Beyoncé, she's also human.
Did you hear the clear man say … they see Beyoncé clapping off beat and she’s not taking the bait … and the production team did a wide shot and came back when Fantasia had passed Beyonce to cover their butts because that was an awkward moment… then the clear guy when on to state how Beyonce got back on beat once she proved she couldn’t be spontaneous without being spontaneously paid
This was a great breakdown about how production works and a plausible explanation about how things may have gone down. By the comments, I can tell that a lot of people didn't actually watch the video...
Yesss Graeme, you really explained this beautifully! You even added something that I wasn't even aware of, based on your overall commentary I would say Beyonce did the right thing by not giving the Grammy anything to promote which is why she may have been a little upset when Jayz said what he said because he literally went against the plan and he gave them something. The look that Bey gave Jayz was like her saying, "What are you doing? This was not part of our plan"
Interesting he said that. But speaks volumes and really exposes the weight of what was being said in this video. I guess Beyoncé is bitter with all she does to help the Grammy’s promote their show but the promotion isn’t reciprocated in terms of Grammy awards to her.
Not apart of the Beyhive or Beehive (?). When I saw Beyoncé hold her head down I immediately thought it was because she wanted Fantasia to have her moment. I watched Kobe’s funeral and saw all the times Beyoncé was on the camera. I saw all the comments about Beyoncé after the funeral. I appreciated Beyoncé so much for this.
Beyonce is in a league of her own if she wanted it trust she would have. Im glad she gave fantasia the stage. B is the Queen and sometimes Queens want to do Queen things like sit back and enjoy the show.❤B
No .... B did not give Fantasia the stage.. Fantasia OWNED the stage. Besides B is in a cult "Illuminators".... That's a league of hers alright... Fantasia stands on her own!! B
Thank you❤ A legitimate analysis without prejudice. He gave insightful analysis that was not biased. The haters just want to hate and not believe Bey was doing what she did not do this to diss the wonderful Fantasia but it was Fantasia's moment. Your hatred is showing by just saying hateful things. Beyonce is at the top of her game and naysayers hate it. It's not Beyonce it's the haters bringing negative attention to NOTHING!!!!!!!
Fantasia doesn’t need to attach herself to ANYONE! She’s a raw talent that has honed her skills, made her mistakes and learned from them. Shine Queen SHINE!!!!!!!
Glad that B showed those Grammy organizers that she was not playing...not to mention that she would not be granting freebie performances for them and the audience. She knows her worth and reinforced that sentiment on the spot.
The girl has 32 fucking Grammys! Or however many! How did the Grammys fuck her? She own the recited. But that’s not good Enough! She performed and used the Grammys as well to build up her fan base and now you idiots are going ungrateful
Love the way you broke down everything that I was thinking in my mind watching at Grammys performance. They keep playing her like some jester, and not a renowned artist
Fantasia, and Jeniffer, and Jazzimine Sullivan are in a league of their own. Bey can't touch their vocals they are truly gifted. Beyonce is talented, nit gifted big differences most people on this platform, don't know the difference. I absolutely agree with you.😊
@@ava7802 Haha. No. Beyoncé is the only star rated vocalist to have debuted in the 21st century Prior century in the same category there was Mariah and Whitney This is according to vocal critics and experts Not haters or fans… So Beyoncé might not be the best singer, but she’s undoubtedly one of the best singers in the world
Y'all missed the entire point of this video talkin bout "Fantasia doesn't need B to shine..." blah blah. It's about how the Grammy's USES black entertainers to build ratings but rarely do they WIN! Beyonce should have long ago won Album of the Year. And even Adele acknowledged it. I'm proud of B for clapping offbeat and not dancing a jig for free....AND she showed up LATE and unbothered with JayZ winning an award and giving a speech.
Not obsessed with Beyonce, but I am a fan and it’s soooo sad that even when she stands up for herself she gets hate! Her wanting to not give them anymore had nothing to do with Fantasia! Fantasia CARRIES always, she is an icon as well! It’s the point they give who they want what they want, not what the mass supports! I bet if your job never gave you a raise for all the hard work you put in and you got hate for standing up for yourself, it would be a different tune! Beyoncé doesn’t control people, people make their own choices. No comes for Taylor’s fans when they support her the same!
I think people are missing the point of the video. It doesn’t take away from Fantasia’s talent but the Grammy’s always want to profit from Beyoncé’s stardom and allure but don’t respect her and award her properly. After being constantly snubbed for the main awards and given consolation prizes and expected to be happy, she’s done. She hasn’t performed for the Grammys in almost a decade and probably won’t in the future and the Grammys need to stop trying to pull one over her and the audience.