Why China Is Demanding These Japanese Islands 

Pretty much 🤣

lol

he also has a tendency to overblow and misrepresent the importance of certain geopolitical issues eg. this one

probably has a team of writers.

@@GoldenWindowsGRE it’s only overblown because if you don’t live a part of that side of the world then you don’t know wtf is important and what’s not lol

That’s kinda funny. Good name.

I'm guessing Taiwan named it first and China just copied it. Such a basic name too but that's China I guess.

@@robertandrews6915 You are sooooo wrong ! Fix the false information Plz. Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China?? ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.

@@pizzzzzzzza8532 China does not claim the Ryukyu Islands. The only island China (PRC) is having a dispute with Japan is the Diaoyu Islands which Taiwan (ROC) also claims. A few Chinese people consider that the Ryukyu Islands has a historical "connection" with China, those people don't claim these islands should be a part of China but they reckon the islanders should have the right to conduct self-determination to decide whether they want to be their own nation. The majority of the Chinese people don't have this view though. If you check the official world map published by China, the Ryukyu Islands has been marked as a part of Japan.

@@robertandrews6915 The name originates before Modern China and before Taiwan had significant Han settlement. It was named in Chinese during the Ming Empire.

I thought fishing rights, but oil seems more plausible

It's not even about oil, but the EEZ and the added 200 miles off the shore.

No superpowers are contesting this, wut? China and Japan are; and neither are superpowers.

It's not oil if china reclaim it they will 100% put a Chinese army base there then if they manage to invade and reclaim Taiwan then they can now fully say that all of the south china see is their banning anyone from accessing it

I assumed it was about military bases

But caused by china... not too surprising

The Japanese are the British of East Asia. Everybody also hates them.

Well technically you could blame the British for making China weak in the 19th century, and since China was weak and poor the Japanese won the war, and thus… though yeah, it’s kinda far-fetched.

@@yitianzhang1525 China was weak before the British were ever involved. It's not like Britain had the power to "make" China weak.

they left some mess behind them when they were thrown out. Ireland, India/Pakistan, Israel/others, Pakistan/Afghanistan, Cyprus, India/China,....I'm sure there's more..............

The Canadian navy only cares that the Danes keep leaving liquor bottles there.

As Chinese Canadian who grew up in Taiwan until moving to Canada. Yes, yes you are right.

the problem is tho that your governments do and you do not represent your country, they do.

I mean when they say Taiwan or any other country they are usually talking about the governments of those countries

Not if those islands belong to PRC

Airlines probably need to do it all the time now anyway. China itself has important airspace (among other geography) your channels cry about.

@@tritium1998 true, but the problem is china doesn't own that area according to international law.

They won't do it anymore now. China has banned most flights from the US since the pandemic. And it looks like the policy won't be scrapped anytime soon.

World: peace Discovering Oil: starting a War

Dictatorship: proceeds to make up land claims and use it as punching bag and distraction for its subjects if it cant take it.

Obviously something is not right here! The fact that notorious Anglo Western clans are major participants & benefactors of Colonization worldwide, stretching from North America, the land rightfully belongs to indigenous Native American people to Australia/New Zealand in Asia-Pacific, the land rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific region. - Here in Singapore, a tiny island with 6 million souls lives like sardines in a can, where else in nearby vast bountiful Australia which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants... A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room? - While European Colonizers such as Britain and Russia have already Colonized half of Asia, stretching from Australia/New Zealand, to Siberia/Far-East, all in the Asia-Pacific region.., Native people of Asia-Pacific are fighting for a few tiny islands left out there in the South China Sea. Obviously something is not right here! - Moreover, all these invaders Colonizers do is dig and empty out all the bountiful abundant natural mineral resources from the looted giant resourceful landmass in Asia-Pacific, and sell them back to Asia-Pacific nations. True, it has been their largest export, earning several hundred billion dollars, every year. - In my very humble opinion, Asia has been under attack from Anglo British, since they sailed halfway around the world from jolly old England in Europe, and looted this vast bountiful so-called Australia landmass in Asia Pacific region in the late 18th century? Why didn't they occupy beautiful fertile Iceland, right above them just a short distance away, with hardly any people there, even today? - May I ask why is Australia, a vast resourceful Continent in Asia-Pacific, only a few hundred miles away from South-East Asia had no Asian-Pacific Islanders in that vast land originally, historically inhabiting when Anglo pirates, some 10,000 miles away England, sailed half the world away, and looted in late 18th century? This doesn't make sense, since Asian-Pacific Islanders originally and historically inhabited and resided in the Pacific islands such as Guam, Tonga, New Zealand, Tahiti, Fiji and Hawaii. - May I ask if Anglo clans have any laws at all for dealing with past and present notorious global cardinal crimes like Slavery, Colonialism & Colonization of vast bountiful resourceful Continents, such as North America, which rightfully belongs to indigenous Native Americans, and to Australia and New Zealand in Asia-Pacific region, which rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific? - In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners. Notorious global cardinal sins & crimes that West has committed and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery and Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on??

@@olefella7561 Australia isn’t an Asian country. It’s its own continent. Your argument is flimsy at best.

Every single neighbor of Japan has territory disputes with Japan: China, SK, NK, Russia. This says a lot about Japan's behavior, especially in the past.

Exactly. The Senkoku islands are in between islands of the okinawa prefecture, and Yonaguni is uncontested as a japanese islands, it's logical they are japanese islands.

The irony is that America supports Japan's claim, but are responsible for them losing the lower Kurile islands to Russia, and still do frig all to rectify the problem. Hypocrites as usual. But then again, Japan, Russia, China and America are all Hypocrites and known for running indigenous people off their own lands. China's claims are the most ludicrous and as laughable as their head Gobshite, Xi JingPooh.

That’s a massive omission then. And the onus should be on the channel owner to pull it and edit this video. If they don’t, and they read this, they lose credibility.

Bad bunny baby

@@gabrielpalacio6710 ☠️

Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China?? ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.

It's all about definitions when you speak with Japanese. This is why it is such a powerful trade entity. Using legalism and the geographic distinctions, Japan would have a good case to keep the islands. But let's not beat around the bush. Japan also purposefully kept them largely undeveloped to avoid conflict. This shows an amount of restraint that is normally not shown to another power. They could have, but they didn't. Given current tensions, it would be best for China to fight Japan using its own game, trade legalese. But I'm just a person on the Internet. My notions don't really matter.

Geologically, the land Canada sits on belongs to the Natives / first nations and yet White people from Europe occupies the land after committing mass genocide. I'm with the first nations on this one.

I agree, but I think it hardly matters. I don't think China is using that argument to claim the islands. It is using that argument to control the area around the islands. Under normal maritime borders, if those islands were considered part of China, the entire sea between the mainland and the islands would effectively fall under Chinese jurisdiction. So this argument has nothing to do with ownership of the islands. It's more about controlling access to the islands so that no other claims on them can be escalated by their rivals. That may be little more than a bluff, but it has been a very effective bluff in forcing commercial air traffic out of the area.

@@pizzzzzzzza8532 The entire Ryukyu islands have historically belonged to the Okinawan people. Not to China/ Japan necessarily. We can't tell what would be their decision in the long run.

fun fact: literally no one cares about these islands and they are about as useless as pheasant island

USA be like

@@JustmeIguess You mean every country? The US aren’t the only country who start wars over oil. That’s literally why Iraq invaded Kuwait

@@ic4192 but most importantly: have you heard of the kuwait invasion and plot to take over oil fields in saudi arabia no? proved your point wrong

China wants to have access in the pacific and draw a line around it

China is just big greedy bully at this point.

Not just the pacific rim region.

sounds like someone should do something about the chinese

@@turbovratya well, the CCP is 'doing something' about the chinese already. 💀

@@turbovratya Nobody can do anything about it without risking nuclear war

what they do if they find one?

@@shinji2036 inspect the Keebler factory to make sure it’s up to code

@Don't read profile photo I read it

@@shinji2036 They get relocated to an elf sanctuary, to live out their final days.

No one asked.

Potato tomato.

​@@CheekyBird790The United States had violated international treaties by giving the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) to Japan. Moreover, Japan was a defeated country and its territory was limited to the four main islands. According to international treaties, the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) should be restored to an independent state.

@@CheekyBird790 The Treaty of San Francisco was formulated by Western countries led by the United States to deal with China, the Soviet Union, and support Japan. This is also the reason why the first island chain where the US military was stationed was formed. This is not in compliance with international law. This was a unilateral treaty signed by the United States without the consent of the other victorious powers.

@@CheekyBird790 The United States supports puppet regimes around the world, including various unilateral hegemonic treaties, and you think it is recognized by the international community. It is really sad.

@@CheekyBird790 build chastity memorial arch to belie the truth of being a bitch. 😂

Yeah except the majority of. Chinese subs make. More noise than a cat in heat, their military training and experience is a fucking joke and they have no ability to support any form of a blue water navy as they don't possess the knowledge or equipment for maintenance and resupply

Just like how China feels?

@@itinnyi And your point is ?

@@itinnyi how China feels what? You make no sense.... Just like the Chinese navy has no chance against anyone

@@TheGecko213 i think the point is some people (like you) have selective empathy, a behavior of a narcassist or psychopath

China keep using that ming dinasty map to take over islands..

pretty sure the deciding factor in these things is who has military strength to take them. You in some CCP propaganda farm?

You don't try to evict China because they'll laugh in your face and sink your carriers.

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Recency of usage? Cough cough what the US did to somewhere in the Middle East

Oh no, neither side?! Just to name a few, the eight years of long classical war between Iraq and Iran and the current war between Russia and Ukraine are just examples of the conflicts which would start a war. The moment, when one side has done examining the other or found enough international insurances or cooperation would be just enough to pull the trigger as it has been always the case.

It's just Falkland Islands

@@RackHasAttacked I know, if i dont put the Argentine name i'll inevitably anger a bunch of Argentine viewers

@@dw_2005 que decís gil aguanten las Malvinas

In a nutshell, it's history is of failed attempts to colonise it by Argentinian, English and few other nation's entrepreneurs. It was mainly on the periphery of hunting and whaling grounds and was used as a stopping point for whaling vessels of different nations. The only ones who put any real effort into making it liveable, were the English, who had probably the most legitimate claim to the islands. Being Irish, I have no great love for Britain's past scuzzy practices, but they do deserve the Falklands. The Argentine junta used it as an excuse to distract a pissed off nation from wanting to overthrow them and their shitty regime. Port Stanley has really grown over just a few decades. I'm seriously contemplating a fishing holiday there soon.

oversimplified!

Then why is Taiwan’s official name called Republic of China?

@@nwind6694 Because the Nationalist government in China fled there after losing the civil war on the mainland to the CCP and it still considers itself the legitimate government of China. All of it.

@@nwind6694 because they used to think they were the real “China”

@@nwind6694 the previous government before the communist.

@@nwind6694 because it goes back to after the collapse of the Qing dynasty in 1911 when the nationalists(now Taiwan) formed their own government and then the communists got mad and there was a civil war

The distribution of natural resources isn't fair, unfortunately.

During ice age, Japan is a cold barren wasteland. Even dinosaurs avoid Japan

Overrated comment, most countries with vast coast lines don't have oil

Btw, even Okinawa itself was not the legitimate territory of Japan. It was and "Temporary trusteeship" if you look in to the history of the ending of WW2

​@@tomcatkewell The people of the islands of today's Okinawa Prefecture were given the option to choose for themselves. In the wake of WW2, the Americans were daunted at the task of having to administer the entirety of Japan and wanted those islands to declare independence so the US wouldn't have to administer them. But when a referendum was held, the people of those islands voted to remain part of Japan. Those islands are part of Japan through the usual process-- the people there have the right via the universal natural right of self determination to choose where their sovereignty lies, and they have chosen to be part of Japan. And BTW, the same American desire to not have to administer any more than they had to also applied to the Senkakus. If Chiang Kai-Shek had wanted the Senkakus, the Americans would have been more than happy to hand them over. Instead, the US was stuck having to administer the Senkakus as part of the occupation of Japan. Naturally when the occupation ended, those islands were returned to the Japanese along with everything else.

The PRC logic is that the ROC no longer exists for them. Thus any territory that was controlled by the ROC is now PRC territory.

Literally every Chinese land dispute ever “This was mine 10,000 years ago so I’m using military force to take it back” 😂

@@bababababababa6124 That's basically saying that Portugal and Spain can own the entire planet... Turkey will own a load of Asia and Europe United Kingdom will own 30% of the planet... American gets the Philippines and Cuba... Russia also gets Cuba.... Like, China's reasoning for wanting EVERYTHING can be the same for almost every other country...

@@BlastedYT bro I seriously don’t understand your argument because NONE of the countries you mentioned actually have or enforce any of those claims, so what are you trying to prove to me

Great britan be like:🤨

@@BlastedYT you make no sense, we literally are agreeing with each other and you want to make an argument out of it 😂😂 Yeah it would be dumb if Spain and Portugal claim that land. So therefore, it IS DUMB that China does today 😂understand my point now? How’s that hypocritical

Look at a map. How close is it to Taiwan vs. Japan

@@PhantomOfManyTopics I'm trying to wrap my brain around this take. So you think Alaska should be a part of Canada? And you also think that Corsica should be a part of Italy? Your method for determining ownership seems a little arbitrary to me, sir/ma'am.

If its close to me then it must be given to me, even if its already someone elses.. anyone see a peoblem with this mentality?

When were the Japanese ever living there?

@@zanderhandler129 , Germany lost 12% of land to Poland, Japan got away clean for section 31 medical experiments in China.

Well USA is on one side of the earth but literally stationing troops and causing conflicts all over the world.

@@GudaGudaPaisen Well, two wrongs don't make a right either.

@@GudaGudaPaisen Is US even in 14 countries list. Just diverting the point

I think it's akin to the U.S. not sharing borders with Colombia, Venezuela, Trinidad and other South and central American states, yet it claims lots of islands there. Seriously look it up, I was shocked when my uni mate from told me about it.😂

Maritime borders dear

Except Canada and Denmark, they are no longer fighting the alcohol bottle wars

US and UK support Japan

Yeah and then Okinawa and related islands are returned to Japan from US administration in 1972, and Senkaku were part of that agreement

"And such minor islands" is the key word there.

Japan should take the four southern islands while Russia is distracted. One of those islands has a small civilian settlement of Ukrainian descent. Japan could give it to Ukraine.

@@Bacopa68 Russia isn't that distracted. Those islands have Ukranians bc Russia moved them there after kicking out the Japanese. In winter, that's the only area Russia can launch subs, so they will never leave willingly.

Japan also is in dispute with South Korea over some islands. The video should at least mention that Japan forcibly occupied Okinawa (aka Luchun), an independent country, and committed genocide on the Luchun people just like they did when they occupied Taiwan when they committed genocide on the indigenous people there. That's why no country in East Asia recognizes any of Japan's claims.

@@user-sm7lr1ok8j Japan could easily take the Southern Kurils by force. A lot of the Kuril defense forces have been moved to attack Ukraine. And do you really think Putin would nuke Japan over some islands that are not recognized as Russian by any treaty?

Probably because there hasn't been any actual fighting besides coast guard ships on both sides stopping and sometimes arresting fishermen and nationalists who got too close or tried to land on the islands. At least compared to the other island disputes Japan has with South Korea and Russia, this is an easier one to stand with Japan on. The Kuril Islands were taken by the Russians in WW2 and are inhabited, so I rather not force these people to leave just like how the Soviet Union forced Japanese residents to leave after the war. As for the Liancourt Rocks or Takeshima Islands as Japan calls them, South Korea already has a small outpost. Again, I rather not force people to leave somewhere. And also with the latter, South Korea seems to have more history with the Liancourt Rocks. With the Senkaku Islands on the other hand, not only is there nobody to force off the islands but the islands were actually owned and used by a Japanese company. They belong to the Okinawan Prefecture now. At the very least, Japan has a better case for the Senkaku Islands compared to China's case, Taiwan's case, and Japan's case with the Liancourt Rocks and four southern Kuril Islands they all claim.

@@tristankawatsuma8962 No, they really don't have a good claim to it. Japan annexed the islands while fighting China in the First Sino-Japanese War. It was territory obtained through imperial conquest, to which such lands were returned to China following WW2 (this was the basis of Taiwan retrocession). The company that owned and used it did so only through that colonial conquest.

@@ruedelta But the Qing Dynasty despite annexing Taiwan in the 1680s, never did anything with the Senkaku Islands. Nobody ever did. And if anybody actually did do anything, it was just using the islands as a marker, to help them determine their positions. No infrastructure was made and no attempts to claim the islands were made until the Japanese company started up on the island. And China and Taiwan only made their claims in the early 1970s, over two decades after the Pacific War and the Chinese Civil War, after a report on oil in the area was made. Now to be fair, it's just as likely that China and Taiwan simply didn't want to be having this dispute with the United States back when it still controlled Okinawa via military occupation. And of course, I will acknowledge that Japan took full advantage of the First Sino-Japanese War to claim the islands, but Japan can't exactly steal territory if it never belonged to anybody else in the first place.

@@tristankawatsuma8962 You realize how hard it is to build persistent infrastructure on those islands in pre-industrial times, yes? I find this argument to be ridiculous as it ignores any of the hallmarks of pre-industrial usage of such territories - indeed, sighting for ships, fishing in the waters, and landing on it for those fishermen. The usage definition that is used today is one entirely drafted by the colonial powers who wanted to dominate any of their claims by insisting that industrialization legitimized their use above all others through infrastructure. This has long been justification to exile natives from traditional fishing waters. You are also forgetting a crucial thing that happened in 1971 - the seat of China at the UN switched from ROC to PRC. Until then, the PRC had no means to communicate with the US, which owned the land until 1972. You are not going to bring up a dispute with someone you cannot diplomatically communicate with. Not to mention, it is perfectly reasonable for the PRC at that time to expect the US to have only been "holding onto the territory" to give it back to the rightful owners... to which the US handed it back to Japan, validating Japanese conquest of the islands.

@@ruedelta Technically, shouldn't you be arguing in favor of the ROC vs Japan instead of the PRC vs Japan?

I don't find it "exhausting" at all. In fact, quite the opposite. This channel has very good narration.

Like that?

Well, almost every sentence contains one or more superlatives and additionally overemphasized. I find the content itself very good, but this constant overemphasis distracts me from the content. A good example of a really good narrator voice is "JCS - Criminal Psychology". But tastes are different and I appreciate the work of RealLifeLore very much!

I agree, its been bad for the while now with a few in particular grating to the point of being unwatchable. This one isn't quite as terrible but still tiresome like "usually" at 9:50 being especially awful.

Yeah I’ve had to stop the last dozen or so videos from this channel due to the narration.

very bias. indeed.

Too rational, where's the money

It’s baffling at first why China cares about tiny rocks, but it’s just to expand their territorial waters, as their east coast is largely blocked off from the pacific by Taiwan and Japans waters, two US allies

Security is important. Great that China is taking it seriously

@@sinoroman can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but what China is doing to its neighbours in the South China Sea is literally bullying, that’s not them taking “security seriously” that’s them being imperialistic, almost as bad as the USA

China being greedy again...

@@bababababababa6124 ​ you guys should really learn about maritime territorial laws before you jump to conclusions. Whoever owns the islands will have a maximum 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone around the islands in which all the resources within this boundary is up for them to exploit eg. Oil reserves, mining, fishing, etc. It’s not about the “tiny rocks”, it’s about the potential resources that’s around the “tiny rocks” and the control they have over the waters around the islands. Edit: to add onto what I said: the country who owns the islands can exercise their own laws up to 12 nautical miles off of the territories which will be their territorial sea. This means that within this distance the said country can exercise their military might if they feel threatened/intruded upon within this boundary. This also includes airspace and underwater/seabed. You can imagine why they’re fighting so long and hard for these tiny rocks now.

Ukraine war is result of geopolitics, how many had died? How expensive had gas become. Yeah, it is stupid, but the consequence is too big to laugh it off.

tbf it's all stupid people doing stupid things

You should laugh that war basically russian killing russian . Also never wrong to laugh at human stupility

The ccp can pull a made up claim out of its hat if need be. Dont worry about that. They already have several other made up land claims they use to help vent internal anger at foreigners. Always handy to have a perpetual dispute to distract from you know...economic or other issues. Nothing new lol.

Don't give them any ideas.

@Lucas ベイリー You must have absolutely no functional idea how naval warfare works, do you? Have you been following the hardships and challenges of China’s woe’s regarding their horrific internal corruption and lack of training? And raise resentment? By a national that already hates us? And Russia hating us more, please. I absolutely do not care if those two Authoritative Dictator hate us. The World is on our side, have you ever wondered why? Have any idea what those two national powers are already doing to their neighbors already? If you did, you wouldn’t have stated what you did.

It's what he's become annoyingly

I have the same issue. Love the content, but the over emphasis is very annoying. A somewhat of a solution is to use at least 1.5 playback speed.

Yeah I’ve been watching RLL for many years now and recently I’ve been getting tired of it But I guess it’s technically his identity and what separates his commentary from others

The worst part is when he talks about his country, THE UNITED STATES OF AAAAAAMERICA, the most most powerful, the most incredible, the most amazing country in the world! He seems to have an orgasm every time. It's creepy.

@@sc6813 Nice idea I'll try that

Whichever title gives him the most views.

If the seas right enough they it will just cover the islands problem solved.

@@Catsrules1 For the better.

Good that China is finding alternatives ready if USA blocked sea trade for China. BRI isn’t as efficient but can be really effective

@@sinoroman I sort of agree, the BRI can be effective on paper, but many developing nations are beginning to wake up to the debt trap that China puts them in, especially after Sri Lanka’s numerous issues. That could really hurt the expansion of the project

And it's debt trap diplomacy.

@@bababababababa6124 debt trap narrative is a propaganda made up washington

But why exactly is it a "threat to the United States". It doesn't displace or conflict with US interests in anyway, until Washington decide it suddenly is of "national security"

Especially over OIL, that is needing to get phased out in the first place anyway.

Yes, it's a bogus claim... the best option is still for you to hit the grocery store. The company basically appeals to your laziness by delivering stuff to your door and yes, with tons of plastic.

錯誤

Taiwan has to fight for its independence, with its own blood. Till the last drop, ideally. Can’t rely on the Americans.

Already talked about lots. Time to talk more about Chinese imperialism and colonialism

China's south China sea islands? none of those belong to china.