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This is one of the best videos to explain the conflict between the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China from a historical perspective. I am glad to recommend it to my friends.
There is also the concept of China. Where the lands we call China is this vaguely defined, ever changing area of East Asia. We have unified periods of the Zhou, Han, Tang, etc. and then there are the splits like the Warring States, Three Kingdoms, etc. Take the Three Kingdoms, each Liu, Sun, and Cao all claimed to be the emperor (which there can only be one and all others are illegitimate). In the minds of those people, there one China (or just everything under heaven as they'd likely say) but it's just been split between 3 different occupied regions waiting to become whole again.
@Winnie P for you second comment，i don't know where to begin，a fun fact： added all of developed countries population is less than 15% of total population. is even less than Chinese total population. when you say most countries you mean the west. why do you need someone to like you anyways? we didn't became superpower by other people likes us.
Sakon Iimoken PRC: “Hippity hoppity you land and waters are my property since ancient times.” Every country + ROC: “The fuck?” ROC: “hey man, one ethnic Chinese to another, I claim Mongolia cuz Qing dynasty did so. And we were the successor before you took it off from us aight? But you can’t just go around the world claiming lands and even the entire South China Sea yours. Embarrassment to our culture bro.” *PRC cultural revolutions *ROC: ಠ_ಠ Chigga the heck did you just do PRC: “Fuck you. Chinese Communist Party is the culture. Your island is mine, and fuck all of you south, southeast Asian countries.”
Spain: Ok, Taiwan, after you return your lands with our holy power, then we rename you to Gran-Formosa Vice Royalty and restore the balance in the world.
@@ssrbgangimaribotan6thofthe12 Taiwan before being invaded by China and Portugal. They're just an island with Austronesians that are still at war with each other
The ROC, or Taiwan, literally was China after the dynasty period, but they got exiled because of a civil war between the nationalist Kuomintang and the communist party. The communist party pushed back the Kuomintang or the ROC by capturing more land. The Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, ultimately losing control of the mainland to the Communist party which then resulted to the Communist party becoming the PRC. The ROC was internationally recognized to be the legitimate Chinese government for a while after being exiled, but the PRC having control over the mainland and more resources eventually led to it being the legitimate internationally recognized government.
You're the one who really understand China's history, which proves that Taiwan is part of China. The only debate is that PRC and ROC, which government is the real official Chinese government that represent the whole China. For me, where there is democracy and freedom, there is.
@@farmers740 USSR supported and suppressedboth CCP and KMT. US supportedand suppressed both CCP and KMT. Their purpose was to reach a balance between the two sides. A divided China satisfies both interests of USSR and US. It is realism, not about ideology.
I'm Taiwanese, and till this day we still need to learn detailed mainland China geography and history during middle school and high school, and the whole China part actually consists a huge proportion of our all geography/history lessons.
@@zedz4397 You are being emotional and offensive my man. Nobody cares about spell here as long as they can understand. pint pointing on unrelevent stuff from topic of conversation can sometimes give misinterpretation as "bullying and offensiveness". So you gotta be careful in your life when you dealing people. What I am saying that you made word of mistake that made your self offensive person. You gotta be consistent on topic and don't mind on small errors of opponent during conversation as you said that "Chiense history education seems consistent." And every history educations from every countries are consistence themselves. It's just not consistence to each others when comparing. Taiwan is free country with deomocracy hence educations are free from Political orientation. Where as China is not country of freedom. Politic controls everythings. They ban youtube, facebook, and even google. Communist Chinese historic re-innovation project is very popular among asian coutnreis. Communist China's point view of history portraits Political orientation of chinese CCP. Communist chinese history education has no reputation because it has it's own consistency in CCP's political orientation.
@@zedz4397 Communist China's history consistency is that eveythings are under sinocentrism. this is why Communist China's historic view cannot be recognzied among the world. I mean for example, communist China teach their kids that genghis khan was Chinese just becuase genghis khan colonized China. Where as rest of other world teach history of Mongol as Mongol itself. I mean, with Communist historic consistency view, Mongol can also be European and Arabian country because they colozied those areas too. So your historic view is not consistent with the world standard.
@@KinLee919 Mongolia should not be independent. Since Mongolia invaded conquered and ruled over China. So in reality what was left with the Mongol Empire eventually became China.
nice video, only a little problem is the flag from 4:25 is wrong, should be “Five-Colored Flag“，which is the flag of ROC from 1911 to 1927, that "ROC" is totally different from this "ROC" after 1927.
I could cry when looking at my like dislike ratio. I have so many jealous people that my videos always get way more dislikes than likes. Please don't be jealous, dear rud8
Well every piece of land except Europe was an free real estate back in the colonization era; and the Africans were enslaved and traded as free assets by the colonists
I think you made a mistake about the Shandong Province. If my memory is not wrong, the German Empire held this province prior to their defeat in the world war one, then it was transferred to Japan.
@Indian Streetshietters still less than chyni virus dead in Wuhan or Uighur in xinziang,but still it good to see you are proud of your killing CCP government
@@weeklymation6875 a real Chinese don't care much about what Indians do. That guy ain't Chinese but definitely Pakistani,Nepalese or even an Indian only looking for attention. (I personally know a lot of Indians and south Asian people and honestly all of you are lunatic on your own way 😅)
Well, interesting video, but you are wrong about the final comment regarding accessing the video though lol. I’m currently watching your content in Beijing with a VPN so geoblocking is no longer a problem anymore thanks to globalization :p
Technically, Christians, Islam, Judaism were all legal in China for centuries already by that time. It's the same process --- they send an envoy bearing some gifts, find their way into the Chinese capitol of the time, request a meeting with the emperor on behalf of their country, the emperor sees them, they talk about how much their religion is a force that aligns with Chinese philosophy and is a force to make people happier, the emperor listens, think about it, nods, and orders them a obelisk that basically says "this religion is legal". And they can then practice whatever they practice, so long as it obeys Chinese law of course. All three Abrahamic religions did that, hundreds of years before Hong Xiuquan. Didn't really have too much problem up until the very Chinese law itself was weakened due to all those invasions.
One detail you didn't touch upon which is important, is that until the early 90s the ROC was ruled by a military dictatorship, which very much continued the goal of taking mainland China. After that it became a democracy with multiple political parties, and a Taiwanese identity has since developed. Nothing has changed de jure, but de factor it definitely has.
@@Tamamo-no-Bae They have a really weird law, someone has been got jail just for killing a snail, and many people get arrested for eating dog, just to prove that Taiwan is more civilized than China
@Sir-Cheezy Mcweezy Uh no, it is the will of people founded to overthrow the unjust and corrupt Qing dynasty. One look at China today shows who is the corrupt and unjust "dynasty" that rules China today. Taiwan is ruled by the people.
the Taiwanese identity developed way earlier than that, but it wasn't officially recognized until 90s, "officially recognized" meaning you can tell people you think you are Taiwanese without being arrested and punished by the ROC government in Taiwan, before the 90s, you dare say you're Taiwanese, you can be arrested and possibly beat to death, even though you indeed was born and live in Taiwan
You might want to update your info. Taiwan dropped their claim to Mongolia 2 decades ago... I was living there when they actually officially changed their maps. It isn't complicated. The government of Taiwan, was the government of mainland China. They lost the civil war vs the communists. They fell back to Taiwan...the only territory that the government still controlled. They have hoped to re-invade and reclaim Mainland China. They actually offered troops to the UN, early on in the Korean War......the offer rejected since the UN command didn't think they'd be able to keep Taiwanese troops from invading the Mainland. But yes, I was surprised when the color of Mmongolia change on mas made in Taiwan...no longer the same color as Taiwan
Purely from a historical standpoint its actually quite incredible how China managed to get back on its feet after all those centuries of chaos and the sheer amount of punishment it took without a moment to take a breather.
The Middle Kingdom has always been able to get back on its feet. In the end the greatest threat to China will always be itself. The times of greatest peril in China has been when it was fragmented, as the Chinese have the bloodiest civil wars ever. Whenever China unites it has always been a superpower. The Chinese know that and that is why they support a United China under a strong militaristic government like the CCP.
Well when you actually look at it from a historical lens there is no surprise that china bounced back. It has balkanized dozens of times suffered foreign conquests from mongols and manchu's and endured through massive famines. Yet it has always recovered and maintained its chinese identity for 2000 years. These recent events around 100 years ago were no different. China's centralization, geography and demographics basically guarantees China's survival and place as a regional/world power.
If you are talking about Mongolia, you need to include Inner Mongolia within China and there are more Mongolian populations within China than republic of Mongolia. Otherwise it will mislead the audience
@@Blue-pk4ny it's a reference to China always saying that "____ has been a part of China since ancient times" whenever they claim a certain territory is theirs
@@marten8148 i think the prc is the real china. everything you own is probably made in china. the prc just has that much influenc over the world, every country has to recognize it
由于中文流利，我以前和家人在台湾度假过。这是一个很棒的地方。 Translation: Since I’m fluent in Chinese, I’ve been in taiwan for a vacation with my family before. It’s a wonderful place.
In fact Bhutan was one of the countries voted in favor of the UN Resolution 2758 for PRC to take back it's position in UNSC. Bhutan does not have diplomatic relationship with either PRC or ROC, but it does recognize PRC or else it won't vote in favor of PRC.
- Uses the current Mongolian flag - Uses the current Chinese Communist Party flag instead of the Civil War Chinese Red Army flag (which many in the comments section think it's the USSR flag because it has the hammer and sickle; it's a different style of hammer and sickle and it doesn't have a star so it's NOT the USSR flag but rather the CCP flag) - Uses the Russian flag to represent the Bolsheviks - Doesn't show the five-striped Republic of China flag used from 1911 to 1928 - says the Japanese took over Shandong instead of Liaodong (they didn't take over Shandong until 1914; Shandong was leased to Germany from 1898 to 1914) You definitely triggered the vexillologists and historians, I think you should just leave the history telling to me
Fun Fact again: mongolian used to he so powerful that they could over throw china and russia single handed but it wan many years ago and now Mongolia is a peacful country where it welcomes almost anyone from any country
It is Yuan Dynasty, it is still China. Because the capital of it is Nanjing,China. And it call them give the land and power from Song Dynasty. Also The People rules the Country is from Inner Mongolia , which is a Province of China.That's although explains why Russia is an Europe country.
5:10 wrong flag for ROC during the discussed period. ROC had a 5-strip flag before 1929 when the KMT won the civil war and adopted the flag shown in the video and used by ROC/Taiwan
China used to be Russia's dog from 1949 until the Sino-Soviet Split. And even after the Sino-Soviet Split, the CHAD Soviet Union still had more allies than Loser China did. And now the Soviet Union's successor state, the Russian Federation, has inherited those Soviet allies. 😆
USA: I AM REAL AMERICA CSA: I AM REAL AMERICA DPRK: I AM REAL KOREA ROK: I AM REAL KOREA DRV: I AM REAL VIETNAM RVN: I AM REAL VIETNAM SAME LIKE GERMANY AND YEMEN
@@djunior874 no my friend, I meant chaiwan, it might not be spelt this way but that's how it is pronounced, I think it has a MRT station there, saw it on the MRT map when I visited hk many years ago.
Technically, our civil war had never came to a conclusion. Like Cold War, it’s a cold civil war at current time. All the territorial claim is based on our constitution. And yes, we are Chinese.
I once read that George RR Martin was giving advice to aspiring writers on how to train their world-building ability, and advised against writing fan fictions based on Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings universes and of course, his own Game of Thrones universe. That's true; world building from scratch is hard, and of course even his own universe is not entirely made up but based on world history as well, like War of the Roses, the wall based on Hadrian's walls, the wildlings represents celts and Dothrakis representing Mongols and Turks, and the sparrows being inspired by the Boxers' rebellion, which I guess would make Cersei based on Cixi (the names even sound similar). Supposedly, Hong Xiuquan encountered some Christian missionaries in Guangzhou and was later suffering from a fever; in his feverish delirium he dreamt up his godly lineage as well his 'mission'. It would be interesting if he weren't sick and had the time and imagination to build up his own cult and founding myth from scratch. If a cult based on a foreign religion could have so much influence and cause such damage in China, imagine what might've if he came up with a more Chinese-like religion.
Well he only pressed his claims after failing the Imperial examinations 4 times in a row. This is why to all educators out there don't ever fail a student 4 times in a row, they just might start claiming to be brothers of religious figures and lead a mass rebellion.
You should not have stopped innovating in military developments. Today your country is at the mercy of Russia and China and cannot do anything without their consent. That's not good. Mongolia needs to have alternative trade routes through Kazakhstan.
The video is pretty accurate. We in Taiwan have a governmental branch called the Commission of the Tibetan and Mongolian which still carries out policies toward Tibet and Mongolia pretending we are still running these territories.
@Char Mate Morale... mainland China has given up most of the territorial claims, while Taiwan hasn’t. They need to appear convincing to mainland chinese as a show of strength. At this point it’s all BS since Taiwan is hinging on staying alive, but keeping up that facade has some convincing capabilities.
Bruh… Say that to Qing dynasty, its territory got handed over to ROC, which then it wasn’t even controlling Taiwan. (Taiwan back then was under Japan.) Actual Taiwanese doesn’t give a damn too. Taiwanese be like: “Genghis who?”
@@DeclinedMercy I mean they are still technically at war with each other just because there was cease fire doesn’t mean they can magically end the war. Remember the formal way to end a war is through treaty, so if both parties sat down a consensus could probably be made. One idea I think would work quite nicely is saying the Throne in the Forbidden City is the legitimate ruler of China, but each country is independent of that Throne. Effectively meaning that a Commonwealth is created between the two Chinas.
@@KRYMauL Taiwan would never accept any powersharing as long as the communists are in charge. And even without them, any reunification would have to be lopsided towards them and leave them significant levels of autonomy. Even just 'on-paper' reunification could be used as justification for mainland intrusion in Taiwanese affairs.
@@DeclinedMercy If you understood what I was saying Canada’s legal head of state is the British Monarch. However, the sovereign is the ruler in name only as one cannot simply disband Parliament.
When you talk about Chingghis Khagan, you should understand before he was born, there were many Chinese Dynasties that ruled parts or all of (Outer and Inner)Mongolia. Chingghis Khagan's Mongols was formerly a vassal of Jin Dynasty as well. Chingghis Khagan even at his death still never finished off the weakest of the three, Western Xia Dynasty, the only achievement in his China conquest was his conquest of Western Liao Dynasty or Kara Khitai which was located in Central Asia and was already usurped by Kuchlug of Turkic Naiman tribe. And it took the Mongols four Great Khagan (Chingghis, Ogodai, Guyuk, Mongke), the entire empire's resources, and Yuan Emperor (Kublai) with the massive help of the Chinese defectors to bring down the disunited and crumbling Chinese Dynasties that had been fighting and killing each other in virtually non-stop battles and wars that had been happening for 2 to 3 centuries. Not to mention those massive rebellions and natural disasters that happened on the eve and during the Mongol invasions. And to make thing worse, they even allied with the Mongols to bring down one another, it still took the Mongols and the Yuan with all their resources the total of roughly 3 quarter of a century to finish the conquest. Compared to fighting the corrupted, declining and crumbling China, the conquest of those islamic sultanates, caliphates, those europeans, and Russian kingdoms by the Mongols certainly a cake walk most of the time. Their resources put into western conquest was miniscule by comparison.
mongolia destroyed their culture adopted Russian-Greek alphabet. China preserved mongolian culture script writing. Mongolia today is accusing China of Genocide lol
people in Taiwan nowadays identified themselves more as Taiwanese rather than Chinese, and therefore, anything that has to do with ROC, people generally just don't want to be part of it, except KMT party, the party that founded ROC and came from China to Taiwan. Even though its president still claim herself as ROC Taiwan's president, but we all know ROC doesn't exist anymore as official China, the official China is called the PROC, only KMT party still insist that ROC is the one and only China. Whoever becomes the president of ROC, can only rule Taiwan, doesn't matter if they called themselves the president of Taiwan or ROC or ROC Taiwan.
A treaty was signed between the USSR and the ROC in which the latter would recognize the independence of Mongolia but the USSR would never again support the communist party of China. But the Soviets supported the Communist Party of China, breaking their deal, so the Government of Taiwan, considering it as a violation of the treaty, declared Mongolia as a part of ROC.
The video was brief and failed to mention a few important things. Unless I’m wrong, the PRC at the time was violently against “intellectuals”, professors, artists, etc and were actively destroying thousands of years of Chinese history- temples, statues, cultural relics etc..
@@PixelKonny64 Because there's a large standing army on the other side of the strait ready to go to war if Taiwan ever officially declares independence. The current status quo benefits both Taiwan and Mainland China economically, so neither side is willing to push their boundaries to actually disrupt it. The ROC government knows that declaring independence is a death sentence, and the PRC knows that war would be economically disastrous. That's why the furthest that the ROC government will go is criticism of the PRC, and the furthest the PRC will go is military exercises along the Taiwan Strait.
@@ZhangtheGreat Yea thats the current situation now, but if the US gonna pro actively do something about it to change the status quo, the story would be different, and I believe most of the Taiwanese more or less want to get rid of this status quo, this is kind of like our inner desire, which explain why a lot of Taiwanese like Trump a lot haha
