Why Christians Should Read the Apocrypha (David deSilva)

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If the writers of the New Testament are to be believed, your faith is not a private matter between you and God. It is the business of the family God has given you in the church and the faith and practice of your fellow believers is very much your business as well. God did not ransom souls; he redeemed a people for himself who would commit themselves to living together in ways that reflected God’s gracious welcome of each one of them, God’s love and forgiveness towards all of them, and God’s passion to see the image of his Son formed in each one of them and all of them together.
In this book, David deSilva guides us through the images of the church that remind us that we are “in this together”-a family, a temple made of living stones, a single organism called “the body of Christ.” Each image reinforces our connections with and our obligations to one another, if the “new person” that the Spirit seeks to bring to life within each one of us is to flourish and reach maturity. He explores the apostolic vision for our interaction with one another, challenging us to be - and to receive - the gifts that Christ intends for us to be for one another, welcoming, loving, serving, encouraging, watching over, and restoring one another so that each individual disciple feels the strength, support, and guardianship of the whole body impelling him or her on to the full stature of Christ.
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David deSilva (PhD) is ordained in the Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church and serves as Trustees’ Distinguished Professor of New Testament and Greek at Ashland Theological Seminary. He has written more than twenty-five books, including A Week in the Life of Ephesus (InterVarsity, 2020), Transformation: The Heart of Paul’s Gospel (Lexham, 2014), Unholy Allegiances: Heeding Revelation’s Warning (Hendrickson, 2013), An Introduction to the New Testament (InterVarsity, 2004; rev. ed. 2018), and Honor, Patronage, Kinship and Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture (InterVarsity, 2000). He has also written commentaries on Galatians, Hebrews, and Jude.
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@charliedontsurf334 2 года назад

In a particularly low point in my life a catholic priest recommended that I read the Book of Tobit. I read it, and it was very helpful. I am appreciative that he recommended it.

@richardounjian9270 4 месяца назад

Funny how Luther is more important than the Holy Spirit who guided the early Church to include those books in the Bible.

@markmountjoy3636 2 месяца назад

Some call him Martin Lucifer for good reasons and I am not too happy about what he did to the Word of God and would have done serious damage to the New Testament if his friends had not stopped him.

@derekmchardy8730 2 года назад

Very interesting thanks. Since recently retiring as a physician I've had more time than ever before for serious Biblical & theological study. Much of what I've read has emphasised the value of reading the New Testament with an awareness of developments in Judaism in the intertestamental period. So I've bought your book and today am starting to study it. God bless you.

@rafaelroxas2818 8 месяцев назад

Very informative. Thank you.

@user-yv2bd7qm4p Год назад

Excellent presentation on the importance of studying the Apocrypha. It is definitely a crucial gateway for understanding the transition from the Judaism of the Old Testament to the Judaism of Jesus and His times. I would also add that much can also be learned by studying the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, works like I Enoch and the Sibbyline Oracles. These give us a better understanding of Apocalyptic literature, such as Daniel and Revelation.

@carlosbonefontphd2591 2 года назад

Excellent informational video.

@armmkm Год назад

There is also a historical reality to consider. Jesus knew of these books. Note He did not condemn them. Maccabees gives us historical insight on the Feast of Dedication (Chanukah). Jesus celebrated this day-John 10:22-23. The Early Church Fathers quoted frequently from these books not once denouncing them. Historically, it was 1850, that “smart” people removed them from the Bible in England and America followed suit. However, these books are in the Eastern Orthodox cannon, the Ethiopic cannon and the Coptic cannon. The fact that they exist is testimony to divine protection over the 21 centuries means you cannot discount them. The true Bible of the Reformation, the Geneva Bible of 1560 included them. This is the Bible the Pilgrims brought on the Mayflower in 1620, this is the Bible Shakespeare quotes-and it contains these books.

@zeektm1762 Месяц назад

They are holy scripture

@dillonpittman1909 8 месяцев назад

Amazing information. Thank you so much for sharing. God is present in all places and at all times.

@paulklenknyc 6 месяцев назад

Jesus’ teachings are not “deeply rooted” in the Judaism of his day, They are deeply rooted in who He is. In fact, Jesus is the living word of God - and he himself is God.

@bigboibenny1609 6 месяцев назад

Actually, they were both. Jesus, as the Word of God, was often giving commentary on the judaism He existed in

@paulklenknyc 6 месяцев назад

@@bigboibenny1609 You are missing the point.

@bigboibenny1609 6 месяцев назад

@@paulklenknyc you'd know more than I would evidently

@fromthewrath2come 4 месяца назад

Jesus did not come in a vacuum. The people who wrote about Him have a context, and that context is the Hebrew and Greek culture of the 1st century.

@paulklenknyc 4 месяца назад

I should I’d add that I’m contrasting Judaism proper, that is, God’s revealed plan as reflected in the Torah and the prophets, properly practiced in the eyes of God, with “the Judaism of [Jesus’s] day,” which was hopelessly corrupt, off-point, bastardized and not pleasing to God. The Judaism of Jesus’s day rankled him, and His daily life flew in its face most blatantly, to the outrage of the establishment.

@gguerra375 Год назад

Why should Christians read them. Easy answer! Because every Christian in the World had been reading them in Churches for about 2000 years. Also, because Jesus read them as well all the apostles and Jewish people read them in Synagogues for 600 years, until some rabbinic pharisees thought they sounded too Christian, so they chopped them up out of the Jewish Bible and then "THE BRITISH AND FOREIGN BIBLE SOCIETY" thought they sounded too Catholic, so they chopped them up out of their Bible in the year 1820 A.D. 🤣🤣

@lilash2200 8 месяцев назад

How do you know Jesus read them

@lilash2200 8 месяцев назад

And why does Jesus never say anything about paying for the dead which the apocrypha says

@gguerra375 8 месяцев назад

@@lilash2200 We know because the Bible mostly used at the time of Jesus was the Greek Septuagint that had all these books, and the Hebrew scriptures had these books until 70 AD. When the Romans massacred all Jewish sects in 70 AD except for the Pharisees (friends of the Romans) After the massacre the Pharisees started specifically forbidding these books because they were used by Christians, giving us irrefutable proof that early Christians and the Jewish people read this books, so much so that the Pharisees had to forbid their use. The Jewish people used them for at least 600 years before being massacred by the Romans. Jesus being Jewish and a master of scripture obviously read them. So, if you are a Christian, you should read them too, but don't read them if you are a Pharisee.

@gguerra375 8 месяцев назад

@@lilash2200 Jesus never said anything about many other books in the Bible, does that mean we should remove those books from the Bible too? that would be a very short Bible. Please, start praying for your family members that passed away, they are begging for your help to get out of purgatory and get to heaven.

@markmountjoy3636 2 месяца назад

Bingo!

@rjltrevisan 8 месяцев назад

The question is: what authority had Luther to decide what the Canon of the Bible should be? It certainly can't be a matter of opinion or feelings, or "it's obvious".

@markmountjoy3636 2 месяца назад

Correct. The Rabbis took those books out at Javneh for ulterior reasons.

@rjltrevisan 2 месяца назад

@@markmountjoy3636 And since when Christians should take the opinion of people from other religions as authoritative? Jews have since the beginning rejected Jesus. We Christians use the books we do because of the apostles and the Church fathers, not because of Christ rejecting Jews. If they know any better they wouldn't still this pharisaic "Judaism"

@markmountjoy3636 2 месяца назад

@@rjltrevisan I see your reply, but I do not know if there is a miscommunication going on. Are you for the exclusion of these books from the Bible or FOR the inclusion of them in the Bible? Help me understand where you stand.

@rjltrevisan 2 месяца назад

@@markmountjoy3636 I'm against the exclusion of the books that Luther and protestants, in their pseudo authority, excluded from their canon (and put the blame on Jews). They are there because the Church always used it, the apostles used it (contrary to popular protestant belief, the deuterocanonical books are quoted in the other books, for example).

@rjltrevisan 2 месяца назад

@@markmountjoy3636 It doesn't matter their reasons, they were Jews, not Christians, to each its own. Christians shouldn't take post first century Jews words ar authority, as they don't take our words as authority.

@SibleySteve 2 года назад

Great video. Keener's Background Commentary and the Zondervan Cultural Background Study Bible were a revelation to me! I took a Greek minor in Bible college 30 years ago, but not until I read Craig Keener did I know how the apocrypha, particularly Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, and the rest, ooze off every page of the gospels. I am particularly interested now in getting evangelical commentary on these very books, especially 2 Esdras and the pseudepigraphy of Enoch, because the problem with the Zondervan Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible is that it references these books but does not include them and therefore does not comment on them. I really need Keener to produce a Commentary of Apocrypha that points in reverse to their references in the NT and how they play with the NT text. Of course everyone is familiar with the Enochian material of Jude and Peter, but I had no idea how much Sirach and WoS are mentioned in the gospels themselves. We need more evangelical scholarship in the apocrypha available at the popular level where I can locate it in bookstores and on Amazon. Maybe these titles and dissertations already exist, and then I just need a bibliography. If anyone can help, please feel free to recommend a title!

@darrellabeyta 9 месяцев назад

I heard that some of Sirach may be inspired, I am pretty impressed by nearly all of Sirach, the ESV with Apochrypha translation (seems to be the same translation as the Catholic NRSV) is modern english

@normmcinnis4102 3 месяца назад

a good way to test and hone one's discernment.

@TheCrossroads533 11 месяцев назад

Perhaps a future ecumenical Bible will include the NT Apochrypha?

@JudyAnn17 9 месяцев назад

Well for sure read the Protestant Apocrypha not the Catholic. Apocrypha of the protestant shows the history and prophetic time line of history. Revelation and Daniel...etc.

@JohnDaya 2 года назад

Scholar close to my heart..

@nics8040 2 месяца назад

Hey everyone, I hope you all are doing well. I was wondering if you guys can help me out. I was asked the other day why Protestants do not include the Apocrypha in our Bible. I heard a couple people say “the Jews do not accept it so we shouldn’t” and “it goes against what the rest of the Bible teaches.” I still don’t know why we don’t include the apocrypha if it’s included in the Septuagint text and that was what Jesus apparently read. It seems like if Jesus saw this text and it was not suppose to be with the rest of scripture, he would have said that. Thanks for any help. This question really got me and I don’t know how to answer it.

@dawnfreshour8425 11 месяцев назад

Does the Apocrypha teach us how to ascend, or about the Sacred Secretion?

@debravan-aalst4723 9 месяцев назад

Kabbala 🙄

@dawnfreshour8425 9 месяцев назад

@@debravan-aalst4723 Thank you 🙂

@InfinitelyManic 5 месяцев назад

Definitely! I suggest one first read Tobit if they've never read any Deuterocanonical or Apocryphal book.

@jorgecampos9659 2 года назад

If it’s not in the gospels and the authors are unknown and the apostles never use them as reference . They’re not from god

@zashmurphy Год назад

exactly

@TatureBud Год назад

But it was taken out from the Bible in the late 1800s. So… that tells you something there

@iamKristyEscue Год назад

@@TatureBud Bingo! The Apocrypha USED to be between the old & New Testament, to ‘’’’’’save money’’’’’ so they took it out. But that’s a complete lie. The gentiles took it out, just like they did many other books to keep us from a lack of knowledge & dumbed down, giving us only what they wanted us to have. Thats why Daniel 12:4 & Isaiah 29:11 tells us of another ‘sealed’ book for the fullness of the Gospel in the latter days. The Bible is the foundation, sure, but on a foundation we’re supposed to BUILD upon it with the other books He was warning us about. Funny how God works, we have gotten many of those books back & knowledge increased. All praises to the Most High. 🙌

@kayodeogundele5293 Год назад

Peter referenced Enoch. Didn't he?

@kayodeogundele5293 Год назад

@Irma That's my point

@wilsonbecker1881 2 года назад

This guy is a star

@cpnlsn88 10 месяцев назад

I don't much like the term Apocrypha for these books as it has negative connotations. Some churches accepted them, some did not. Jews overall did not retain them and now we only have them in Greek. I favour retaining them in the Bibe. You can read them if you are interested in doing so or if you find value in doing so. How much value is there in Ecclesiastes, Proverbs or Song of Songs? They are interesting and have great literary merit but they surely aren't instructional texts. When did you last read Levisiticus? I think I read it twice but decades ago. I favour a more dscriptive term like 'Books found in Greek manuscripts, written in the period between the Old and New Testaments, often referred to as the Apocrypha'. A short introduction can reference which churches do and do not acnowledge these books as scritpure or like Martin Luther, the King James translation and the Church of England see them as valuable works to be retained and people can evaluate them according to their own opinion. If you are a serious reader of the Bible my opinion is you should read these books at least once. I truly cherish these books. They are very pious and sincere works of great value written by Jews for Jews of that time and it is worthy that they are retained n the Bible for all Christians to peruse if they are able, it will expand their knowledge of biblical times and grant us deeper insights int our own faith tradition.

@SirMillz 6 месяцев назад

Great intertestemant books, that's it.

@shanemcguire5347 8 месяцев назад

protestant here ok i think its ok to read them from a historical standpoint like the macabees for example but some of it is simply jewish folklore and doesnt mesh with the cannon there is even writings within the Apocrypha that points that out so read it from a historical standpoint not as holy scripture remember the jews wrote everything down as that was the main way information and history and prophecy and even folklore was transmitted in the ancient world

@PapaaJoshhh 6 месяцев назад

Too many inconsistencies with the rest of scripture. And Luke 24:44 Jesus says “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”

@edvardzv5660 10 месяцев назад

Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on RU-vid. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).

@beefmaster4 9 месяцев назад

There are miracles today, especially with medicine and some things baffling doctors, and people still dismiss it as coincidence or just science that we don't understand but nothing to do with God. I agree with the church (or churches) being changed from its origins, but I don't think miracles are the answer that would make everyone believe. Are you LDS? Your comments seem to agree with their take on the apostasy of Christ's church, and its resoration, but not that it has been already restored as they claim to be.

@markmountjoy3636 2 месяца назад

"Useful and good to read" troubles me! If it is not inspired, why were such books attached to the LXX that the first Christians certainly had. The prejudice against these books is overwhelming and sad!

@sobian2209 Год назад

I topit book chapter six angel Raphel said about the fish.that they cure the person who are under devil's spirit. I think this is fake. There is no such things we could see in new testament. Raphel don't lie then someone who write it with a lie . I think so 🤷

@BfianMillerusedtobeis 6 месяцев назад

KNOW THIS ABOVE AND BEFORE ALL THINGS… CHRIST HIMSELF stated, “I AM the GOOD SHEPHERD MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE, they will not follow another”. Christ’s True followers do and will KNOW His Words. They will be able to pick them out of even a ‘mixture’ of additional confusion. This is but ( 1 )one of the GIFTS The Holy Spirit gives to the True followers of the Messiah, for it IS a ‘GIFT’ indeed, it’s name is ‘DISCERNMENT’. Ask Christ Y’SHUA/JESUS for this GIFT in Truth, Sincerity,Humbleness, and Faith and He will give it to you. Leave ‘doubt’ out of the equation.

@YAH_ONLY Год назад

> 04:28

@JudyAnn17 9 месяцев назад

Trinity is not biblical. It was developed overtime by the Roman Catholic Church. As stated in Gibbons work the fall of Rome. The doctrine of Jesus is Both, Father and Son. The doctrine of man is Trinity. Three in one God. Martin Luther also said so.

@jnota1 8 месяцев назад

"A nature exhibits what it is by the things it does. Activity reveals and makes known to us identity. Scripture marks off for us the eternal identity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. One way it does that is by indicating these divine prerogatives, these activities that God alone does. God alone creates, God alone saves, God alone forgives sins, and so forth, and we see throughout the Scripture that those unique works of God are assigned to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And yet this God is indivisibly One. One nature, one power, one will, and yet irreducibly three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It's only Scripture that gets you to the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. That doesn't come from philosophy, that doesn't come from any other place, it is only God making that know to us in the Scriptures on His terms, marking off His eternal identity for us."

@SalvadorACOSTA-pz1cg 5 месяцев назад

Apocrypha you gotta be joking

@fromthewrath2come 4 месяца назад

There are passages in 1 Peter and Jude that come directly from 1 Enoch. It's helpful to read these ancient documents for context.

@MisterN0b0dy 5 месяцев назад

So, Jesus based His teachings on texts He knew not to be inspired? Has this man any idea of the stupidity of what he’s claiming? He seems to be basing his support for the Apocrypha on Luther’s enthusiasm for it. Is Luther the arbiter of all truth? The fact that he still put so much value in the Apocrypha just shows how deeply the roots of his former Catholicism ran. The Apocrypha was never part of the Hebrew Old Testament and no New Testament writer referred to or quoted from the Apocrypha.

@richardounjian9270 4 месяца назад

Obviously, you have never studied the origins of the Bible. The very first time the canon of Scripture was declared was in 382. The Old Testiment was already established in the Septuagint. That was the Scripture of the time of Jesus and the Apostles. Only which writings about Jesus and the Apostles needed to be considered. The Old Testiment Scripture was a done deal. The Bible went unchallenged from 382 until the 1500's. All ancient Apostolic churches ( Oriental, Orthodox, Catholic) have the Deuterocanonical books (Apocrypha). The Holy Spirit inspired the early Church to include all of the Septuagint. Who are we to question it?

@MisterN0b0dy 4 месяца назад

@@richardounjian9270The Apocrypha was never part of the Hebrew Old Testament and was never referred to, let alone quoted by any New Testament writer. That’s why I reject it.

@richardounjian9270 4 месяца назад

@@MisterN0b0dy You are welcome to reject anything you want. However, you simply can't ignore history if you expect to be considered serious. The Jews of Jesus's time had no problem with the Septuagint. Once the Christians began to grow, the Jews became concerned because the Septuagint was used by the early Christians. In the 3rd century, the Jewish authorities rejected the Septuagint in favor of writings that could only be found in Hebrew. This left them in a quandary. They had to get rid of Maccabees. Only in Maccabees will you find the story of the recapture and rededication of the second Temple of Israel. Hanukkah celebrates this holiday to this very day. To the jews, the restoration of the Temple was equivalent to the restoration of Israel. The early Christians saw Jesus as the restoration of Israel as well. This is why they chose 12/25 as the Nativity of Jesus. The day coincided with the day the Temple was restored. This is why Hanukkah and Christmas overlap. Once you know history, things make better sense. Knowledge is power, brother! God bless

@MisterN0b0dy 4 месяца назад

@@richardounjian9270Thank you for telling me history I already know. I’m aware of the historical value of SOME of the Apocryphal books, but I’m also aware of the false teaching and historical errors contained. Whatever value or importance you wish to place on the Apocrypha you can’t escape the fact that none of it was ever contained within the Hebrew Old Testament and no New Testament writer referred to it, let alone quotes from it.

@richardounjian9270 4 месяца назад

@@MisterN0b0dy 3 times I have pasted the article: Purely Presbyterian...Did the Apostles favor the Septuagint. All 3 times it has disappeared. Perhaps, it is copywrited. The article clearly gives examples of when the Apostles and early Church fathers used the Septuagint. You can Google it yourself if you want to read it. I tried to post it here for your convenience but, it won't stick. Sorry

@jorgecampos9659 2 года назад

Not true! Galatians 1:8. If it’s not in the original text it’s not from god

@g.e.k1047 2 года назад

Amazing verse brother. Thank you for your comment.

@Dude4Christ85 Год назад

This verse in Galatians was addressing the "false teachers" and "troublemakers" that were teaching a false version of the Good News; teaching the Galatian believers that--in addition to placing their faith in Jesus--Christians needed to obey certain parts of the OT law of Moses. Paul refutes these false teachings in his letter to the Galatians and emphasizes that faith in Jesus Christ alone is what makes us righteous, and that "no one will ever be made right with God by obeying the law." He also states, "For if keeping the law could make us right with God, then there was no need for Christ to die." Furthermore, he reminds the believers that if they are going to try and earn favor with God by keeping the law, then they "must obey every regulation in the whole law of Moses."

@allwillberevealed777 Год назад

@@Dude4Christ85 So follow every greko-roman holiday, law, gods, philosophies, etc., of the devil but not on Law from the Most High? 🤡

@JD-fg1nx Год назад

I’m sure none of us have the original text. Think about it🤔

@TatureBud Год назад

This is taking about false teachings by false teachers

@g.e.k1047 2 года назад

Reading the apocrypha cannot and should not be done with the intention or thought of it being Devine because history and scholars can’t confirm. You don’t read a Christian book and count it as Devine so the same understanding must be applied to the apocrypha despite it being much older.

@flaviamatovukiweewa1715 Год назад

6 minutes and 59 seconds 😅

@hpdamager7920 2 года назад

you've actually convinced me NOT to read it.

@obscuredictionary3263 2 года назад

How? early Christians accepted it, the 66 book canon is a relatively recent development with no historic credibility.

@hpdamager7920 2 года назад

@@obscuredictionary3263 the apocrypha is freemasonic through and through. And these 'people' who look like literal demons that go out their way to promote it only compound my feelings.

@obscuredictionary3263 2 года назад

@@hpdamager7920 The exclusion of the apocrypha is actually a new innovation, up until recently Protestant bibles had it. The main reason for its modern exclusion was actually to lower printing costs.

@hpdamager7920 2 года назад

@@obscuredictionary3263 well that doesn't bother me since the new testiment is new age mystic (old age occultic) and lucifarian freemasonic too.

@obscuredictionary3263 2 года назад

@@hpdamager7920 So what is your religion?

@JudyAnn17 9 месяцев назад

@jnota1 8 месяцев назад

"A nature exhibits what it is by the things it does. Activity reveals and makes known to us identity. Scripture marks off for us the eternal identity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. One way it does that is by indicating these divine prerogatives, these activities that God alone does. God alone creates, God alone saves, God alone forgives sins, and so forth, and we see throughout the Scripture that those unique works of God are assigned to Father, Son, and Holy SpiritAnd yet this God is indivisibly One. One nature, one power, one will, and yet irreducibly three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It's only Scripture that gets you to the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. That doesn't come from philosophy, that doesn't come from any other place, it is only God making that know to us in the Scriptures on His terms, marking off His eternal identity for us."

@JudyAnn17 8 месяцев назад

@@jnota1 man-made doctrine is never found in the word of God tread lightly when you rename the GOD of heaven a trinity. Adding to the word of God you will remove your name out of the book of life you will find that in revelation. Revelation 1:1 shows the very order of heaven, I would like to see you prove the Trinity from that one verse. I find it interesting that man tries to prove something that man created , men’s doctrine , and they try to prove it from the word of God. The Trinity language and it’s doctrine is not found in the word of God it was developed over time you will find that in Gibbons book the fall of Rome. The three kingdoms that were pulled up in history were because they were in the way of Rome because they would not submit to the Trinity doctrine. Rome will be joining all the churches together in one of the last battles through the trinity through Sunday keeping doctrine just like the dark ages it is going to be about who you worship man’s doctrines are obey the God of heaven. Thou shalt have not other gods before...REMEMBER the Sabbath day= the 7 th Sabbath not the 1st of the week in honor of the ☀️ worship. Trinity and Sun worship are pagan deity doctrines.

@JudyAnn17 8 месяцев назад

@@jnota1 i’d like to refer you to Internet archives: Book👉 The Sabbath question from the Roman catholic standpoint, as stated by the Catholic mirror.👈