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Why closed port cylinders are high performance 

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@theironhorse6600
@theironhorse6600 2 года назад
Only trying to help but you have the primary and secondary transfers mixed up on the quad loop! Erase this message after you read this if you want! I hope I’m helping! Keep up the good work!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Oh HEY! I've watched so many of your videos! Thanks for the help. I was questioning it myself. Doesn't make sense to me why the exhaust side upper would come in first. Seems counter productive to shoving the spent gasses out the exhaust. Seems like it should be the other way around.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Could you help me out with a video explaining it better? And...give my channel a shout out?
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
@@novicelumberjack 👍🆙BigGuy
@carllangley1764
@carllangley1764 3 месяца назад
Great job on the explanation of information!! I really like the SUPERB sound effects , it really lets the kid out to play and that to me is the important part!!
@homopit42
@homopit42 Год назад
Thanks for the explanation. With a small correction - on quad ports, primary transfer port is the one closer to exhaust port. The one closer to the intake is secondary transfer.
@jamievanatta771
@jamievanatta771 2 года назад
Thanks for breaking this down in a way that's understandable.
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
You're welcome.
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 2 года назад
Been some great ported runners build from open ports
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Absolutely! You can modify anything. But...you get what I'm explaining. Heck, you probably know it better than me!
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack well I’d say I do. Why I have been trying to give you pointers when you’re off track
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
I love your pointers, and thank you, but... you think open ports are as good or better than closed ports? Not talking about HEAVY modifications. Heck, anything can be modified enough to outperform something else. The bones of a cylinder. That's what I'm talking about. I'f closed port isn't better, then why would EVERY high performance 2-stroke use closed port designs?
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack i would only say that closed ports are longer lasting and have a bit more grunt because the charge is directed better. For high revs open are about the same performance
@cajun3197
@cajun3197 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack I think you did a good explanation though
@marcoalvarez5682
@marcoalvarez5682 2 года назад
Great explanation thank you very much every day I learn something new
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ Год назад
After seeing it explained like this I really don't know why piston sleeves aren't the done/common thing in 2 strokes. Much easier to cast and machine.
@blairguinea6811
@blairguinea6811 Год назад
Thanks Brody, I thought I knew 2 strokes...................found your explanation fascinating
@tomjones4318
@tomjones4318 2 года назад
That's a clear enough explanation anyone can understand.
@pauljcampbell2997
@pauljcampbell2997 Год назад
I learned a lot. Thank you!
@balazsporteleki3741
@balazsporteleki3741 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, i got the difference
@yankeenimrod2063
@yankeenimrod2063 2 года назад
nice work, very informative video , now I want to cut a cylinder in half !!
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Well done Big Guy👍🆙
@Jesusiskingamen7
@Jesusiskingamen7 2 года назад
Good video man I been messin around this helped me alot
@RussellHoughton
@RussellHoughton Год назад
I ordered the cheapest 353 cylender kit on Amazon last week expecting open port and it was closed port and looked better then a factory unit. But at the end of the day I just want it to work good. I don't care if it's open or closed.
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
Hey RH, What brand or ASIN# is that cylinder kit on Amazon?
@jordanhenson626
@jordanhenson626 2 месяца назад
That looks like my 372 cylinder
@shawndavis1759
@shawndavis1759 Год назад
thank you
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack Год назад
You're welcome!
@budgillett9627
@budgillett9627 2 года назад
Great explanation!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Thanks!
@richardhatfield915
@richardhatfield915 Год назад
Thank you
@ozdatman
@ozdatman 2 года назад
Now talk about open vs closed in relation to case volume.
@MsMohaman
@MsMohaman Год назад
Hi. For example, the stihl ms 660 cylinder method of cutting out the bridge in the middle of the filler to make it look like e.g. At the husqvarna 55?? Thanks
@julianlaustsen1991
@julianlaustsen1991 Год назад
I learned that u should never port upwards or downwards because it ruins compression ratio, what are your thoughts on this?
@peterjohn3180
@peterjohn3180 9 месяцев назад
Kind of! There's no reason why an open port can't be angled away from exhaust, the angle upwards is more effected I think plus. In high performance cylinders the angle is not as angled away from exhaust to facilitate scavenging at high rpm. One way open ports get the charge to flow away from exhaust port is to have the port roof arranged so that the port open on the side opposite ex. Port first.
@Nicky_Pin_It
@Nicky_Pin_It 2 года назад
Awesome Vid!
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Are you familiar with sugarloaf parkway, just north of Atlanta?
@Nicky_Pin_It
@Nicky_Pin_It 2 года назад
@@novicelumberjack nope...my name is for Sugarloaf Maine the ski resort
@ChippyOutdoors
@ChippyOutdoors 2 года назад
Good explanation
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Why thank you Chippy! I appreciate it!
@vascopires2045
@vascopires2045 2 года назад
Very nice
@davidgoliath982
@davidgoliath982 2 года назад
ms250 is a good example of a very nice running open port. dont know enuf to say much more than that
@DoSomething-
@DoSomething- 8 месяцев назад
My open port cylinders rip
@antea9055
@antea9055 2 года назад
Can I use an open port cylinder on a crankcase built for closed port? Vice versa? (I have a 140s with broken cylinder and cant find a new one.)
@novicelumberjack
@novicelumberjack 2 года назад
Should work fine as long as that saw has the option of an open port. What saw is it?
@antea9055
@antea9055 2 года назад
I have an Husqvarna 140s, 40mm, 32mm stroke and i can not find a closed port cylinder for it. Ive found a few open port cylinders that might work like the weedwacker 443r. Will a open port cylinder/piston work on a closed port crank case?
@davesteier-xf5lh
@davesteier-xf5lh 5 месяцев назад
And there ain’t a single chainsaw enthusiast out there with a 3d printer that can replicate that damn Partner cylinder you got?? Then, if so, you’re on to going beyond machining process and can directly focus/work on flow now. Imagine a chainsaw running from the bottom side; That’s how the flow and “flow the cases” works on these things. /pine… Back To: Tapering, Channeling, Venturies… the angles of the dumps, their positioning behind the exhaust hell idk oh and Port Timing.. Rrrrr!!! RATS! Wasn’t it “EPA” was the reason for going to Open Ports? Closed Ports polluted”” more?? What was that? Just another marketing gimmick mask to get us to pay for it? “AWD”… “Quota” “Performance Evaluation..” Cuz I know for a fact! I’d pay $5 more for the saw and a “Xp” cylinder if that was the option. Because you CAN NOT just go out and put your hands on one of these cylinders, AS EASY as-if “it came with it”. Damn this 55 Rabbit hole!!! All this just for a damn chainsaw.
@Topsiekku
@Topsiekku Год назад
Kanavan muoto on liian törmäävä jos se on auki kokonaan
@noclass2gun342
@noclass2gun342 Год назад
That's definitely not a 440/460 cylinder... perhaps a 441 or 461, but definitely not a 440 or 460. The lower transfers on 440/460 are in the cylinder walls not on the base
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