Yeah Asta stomps in every way imaginable. He's stronger, faster, more durable, has better range, and better hax. All Deku has over him is intelligence. Asta even is probably more skilled and a better fighter, so even Deku's Battle IQ won't help him much here. I do like that you put respect on Izuku tho, him being Continental and FTL is a lot better than most scalers I've seen scaling him. He's somewhat underrated in versus debates, but even then, Asta just kind of bullies him lol. All in all, fire video - can't wait for the next one!!! 🔥
And he also does have more abilities than him but that's about it in a lot of people claim that Deku is a genius in a fight but none of that has actually really helped him win ex deku vs overhaul
@@mockouchiha7579 eh, not really. The fight is just for entertainment so they make it look closer than it actually is. And in the post analysis they do explain how big the gap between the two is
Honestly I wouldn't even say deku has intelligence over asta he may not have the most vase vocabulary being that he is form a very rural and poor area he never really shown that he is some idiot having a straight forward approach doesn't make him a idiot asta grasp the concepts of ki and zetten with the most bare explanations and successful utilised them within his first attempt he has managed to copy then mould those moves to fit his fighting style and abilities, calculate what speed position and timing he needed to move at to avoid meroleona and stop rhya self destruction in less then a second asta intelligence gets down played hard
why does this debate even alive both black clover and mha fans know deku is getting clapped by asta only those deku stans keep saying nosense that deku is outerversal or he immune to fate and reality because he change his future or ignore reality and some bs they can come up
There is one youtuber who thinks Deku can low diff Asta; the name is keiranboak @@cronus555 They also said Bakugo beats Yuno, Deku beats Tatsumaki (one punch man), and Yami loses to Deku.
Everyone keeps talking about how he can bend reality but that's simply just dumb a hyperbole statement and to even call Deku faster than light is a huge stretch in my eyes when he needs to boost himself with something that doesn't last
Well the Black Clover movie is canon it’s not manga canon but it is anime canon because it takes place at end of the Elf arc and the very beginning of the spade kingdom arc so his Meteor feat alone and plus his Devil Union Demon Slasher sword form can literally cut whatever the fuck he wants to including reality itself yeah no there’s way Deku is getting anywhere near Asta 😂😂😂
Good scaling on Deku 👏. Don’t know pretty much anything about black clover, but 1 thing I can say about dekus ps is that we won’t know until we see his full strength, then we will have a true test of strength. Deku needs to easily beat a continental threat to stand a chance. Hope mha continues to the end of dekus years at ua
These two are not ready yet plus asta in the Manga left of were he shared his anti magic with his friends and deku has gotten two new forms were he can use black whip as armor and even make his bones and muscles stronger and he can lift part of the ground he is given the nick name carnage deku because he grew claws and has black whip tendrils coming out of his back also black whip is helping him move his whole body even though his bones are broken see chapter 413 414 and 415
Debatable. But we were honestly trying to be pretty charitable with Deku's scaling here, to show how bad of a stomp it was. So feel free to take the calcs here, with a grain of salt.
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It would indeed, though? I actually kind of think that Deku throttles PTS Asta? But, it’s definitely not a commonly held opinion, so? Maybe a future video lol.
@@GhHg-yu2by Pre-timeskip asta dodged light speed attacks in HIS sleep and destroyed an enemy who was able to evaporate an entire ocean, which is multi-contintal. So Pts asta would still beat Deku
Deku wins i belive they scale around the same and around the same speed i could get deku to large planet with mftl speed him and asta are around the same but i think deku is smarter and has dura nega if u count the soul manip feats nice vid tho
nope. asta is ftl at MINIMUM during the first timeskip (likely before then as he dodges beams of light from gause) and then you add on the multiplications- even a severely nerfed asta is WAYYYY too fast for deku to slow him down enough to not get speed blitz'd. Asta also matches deku's more highball feats of strength on a lowball
@@FunnyNarwhal-tm2gt I'm not being silly blud It's faxx ☺️ Explain to me how Asta wins against someone who changed the weather across the Whole WORLD for at least a week with his WEAKEST punch, because one of Asta's strongest attacks is now splitting clouds across a country💀
Lol. I’m pretty sure everything post Devil Union is a wash for Asta. Even the most absurd outlier high ball calcs for Deku (The Multi-Continental Super Cell is the highest I’m aware of) Comes out to 10^26? And- even if you stack the 72x multiplier for Old Might to Prime Deku conversion the best you get is like? 10^28? (Or 10^29 for a hypothetical 100%) so barely scratching moon level? Even if you REALLYYYYY hype Deku up- and ignore everything else that contradicts it. Asta- Oneshot 10^26 character in base- so? Just adding his multipliers? The fight doesn’t look too good for Deku, even ignoring that Deku has a time limit as well. Just my thoughts though, any positive comments for Deku are appreciated- cause the slander for him is absolutely cold 💀
I can actually give him a 450 to 460 times a multiplier this is due to the fact that he scales higher than all for one who each time he transforms further and further backwards to the point where he ends up as a toddler. He grows stronger and becomes so powerful that his powers become unstable and all for one is extremely relative or equal to all might which means he would have the same 70 time. So it should be fine to use that same family times multiplier each time he transforms which gets him to 420 times stronger than all might and sugar rocky is stronger than him and it's a pretty significant guy. So I'd say something like 20 times aspheric even 10 would be okay and Deku is also stronger than him by 10 to 20 times as well so he would have a 460 times. Multiplier. Oh and he also scales over a storm produced from Todoroki endeavor and Dabi which was stated to cover all of Japan and will soon cover all of North America and even geten could possibly scale to multi-continental because he can control the molecules of ice which is how he manipulates the temperature and he could possibly freeze over the entire ocean which is plausible due to him stating that he can use the plumbing that's under the city and turn it all into ice with ease. And then considering the fact that stars and stripes produced a country level feat. And she said she's not on the level of All might and due to how all night is betrayed in the story as being the pinnacle of power, it seems like they wouldn't even be closed in terms of strain and he's still a high tier to this day. So it seems like you can even scale into multicontinental just based off that and then add on the 70 times multiplier for his prime. Then you add on the 460 times multiplier from Deku And then on top of all that it stated in chapters 369 that Deku can basically punch so hard that he bends the laws of governing reality which would scale him higher than Asta and it definitely is his strength due to the fact that directly after him getting this power up, he performs a strength feat and it even states that he's doing it with his fist. And you can actually get this up to universal due to the fact that it states he's bending the laws that govern reality, meaning the specific laws that keep reality binding together and prevent it from it being broken and it says reality in general. Meaning all of reality and reality contains the universe so you could get this up to universal And for speed you can actually get deku to infinite speed due to him being able to move in 0 seconds in the manga when sugar. Rocky states that Deku is basically moving everywhere all at once. All at the same time when Deku was in front of him beside him below him over him and he can also punch instantaneously and can pull off a quintuple instantaneous Detroit smash and he has no need for acceleration which allows him to bypass the laws of inertia meaning he can instantaneously stop and speed up and he also has no speed limit with gear shift So in all honesty, I really don't think that pasta would even be able to land a blow if we put them in their strongest forms, especially due to the fact that Deku's reaction speed would also scale to him moving instantaneously due to the fact that he's processing everything perfectly, wow moving at these levels of speed Oh, and his durability scales directly towards his strength and in chapter 404 we found out that Deku can actually change fate.
@@marvelmaniacs1yeah that changing statement is a hyperbole and shoto and Dhabi creating that storm is more of range of power and nothing you said even comes close to Asta who is Continental to multi-continental
@@sidenote2854 You do realize for me to be yapping, I would have to be saying absolutely nothing that pertains to nothing in the video. Or just the topic in general, right? And I did the direct opposite of all of that.
@getlllz3438 Asta can't scale to uni because of Dorothy, as even City level characters can create their dimensions with Islands and so on, but their own AP is still City level. Plus, Asta can use Dimensional Slash, he just destroy the structure of dimensions, not the dimension itself, so Asta is nowhere close to Uni ( with such logic I can say that Deku is Multiverse level, because he can warp laws of Reality and Multiverse is one of the laws of whole reality ), or I can say that OFA and AFO can easily destroy poket dimension which they create, whith copies of souls in it, so Deku is uni too ( as I said before, such arguments are just dumb ). Yeah, Asta could be scale to Planet-Large Planet level, but Deku easily scale to that level too. Plus, Deku is much faster then Asta. Deku can easily tank attacks which are 10 times stronger then his own. Deku is stronger then Asta
Good video. As a Black Clover fan, I don't get why people treat Deku like he's trash. Obviously, Deki isn't as powerful as Asta but that doesn't make him weak. Edit: Also, I totally get the idea behind why Anti-Magic would work on One for All. But I think Anti-Magic not working against One for All makes things more interesting.
Also there are quirks that can make physical stuff like Todoroki who makes real ice instead of magic ice like someone would in black clover, so I don't think asta's anti magic would work on quirks either.
Deku has NOTHING to threaten Asta with! XD You should do a versus video on both series next. You should watch broku’s black clover videos they are really good.
Put simply, Asta absolutely wipes the floor with Deku. With with the strength and versatility of Deku’s power, Asta’s own strength, battle smarts, and overall power thanks to the anti-magic, Asta is better. Death Battle’s cover of the two desperately tried to nerf down Asta to try to make it a “close fight” when realistically that’s not the case.
@@B3N_RU-vid oh no I saw the episode and I know the federal does sometime try to make it more closer than it will ever be but I didn't really see that there and this is all surround the time when astas new form wasn't exactly confirmed how powerful
@@Keith_Norman it was plenty confirmed. If anything they completely ignored Zennin. The new power system from the land of the sun. But they give Deku his new power that *Barely* made it to the manga? Nah. They try to rig it
@@B3N_RU-vid I mean not really we barely knew anything about Asta new power a while we knew a fair bit about gear shift and you can't say that it was rigged when if you actually pay attention to the results and the scaling you would know that it's not really close at all in their analysis all they gave him was IQ and abilities
TBH? I’m not really sure if it is, but? No one has covered it in SUCH a long time- that I felt like their final saga counter parts just needed some love.
5:24 It's a bit of a shortcut here, Fa-Jin allows Deku to store kinetic energy by repeating movements (for example, if he moves his arm several times while activatin Fa-Jin, kinetic energy will be stored in that said arm), and then unleash them to move faster and stronger than he normally could, that's why he was able to move as if he was at 100% against Lady Nagant, however, once the kinetic energy stored is used, Deku would have to store it again 9:50 aaah...i was afraid of this one, that's not really the case, Deku didn't bend space or reality with his speed, he bend the laws of physics, because of gearshift allowing him to accelerate while ignoring intertia, but it became so strong that it slightly passes out the laws of physics (and not reality, which is different), and there's also another difference between bending and breaking the laws of physics 13:04 I'm sorry, but I have to disagree here, mha's physics are likely the same as our world's physics, and in our laws, such a speed is theoritically impossible for matter, not to mention that a sudden acceleration like this would kill anyone because of the number of G that the user would have to handle. Even in gearshift, I still don't believe that 120% Deku is light speed yet. Besides, (even if we can't really count that since it's not something that could be used), in a world that seems to follows our physics, being FTL isn't a little feat, and I do believe that it would've been stated if he was able to go at that speed, especially when you know how many comparisons Horikoshi has done to let us visualize the strength of his characters 13:07 If those are IEM waves, I don't understand how it can go faster than light, I mean, IEM exists in our world, and as of now there hasn't been a single IEM wave faster than light (well...it's impossible so...) 13:15 Well...they can use light speed attacks, but I don't know if we can really use these to scale the speed of someone, I mean...Mina Ashida in the second season was able to dodge Aoyama's navelaser, and I doubt anybody will say that she's light speed 15:30 I'll say that Asta, the first time Licht appears, is at light speed, because of some statements, however, I can agree about him being relativistic, because we could add his Ki sensing to the calculation 16:13 I disagree, I don't think Asta's anti-magic can negate Deku's quirks, because quirks are supposed to be genetical mutations that allows humans to have supernatural abilities, however, I don't think the quirks have any supernatural energy (which is what Asta can negate, not only magic)...Okay, I've never thought about the fact that they now have some sort of spiritual connexion...err...I can't really say in that case
I checked to see and I had a feeling you made a video about this! Yeah, no two ways about it, Deku doesn't win, but this video gave him the scaling he deserved.
Asta has planetary ap with mftl speeds as Dorothy created a moon in her pocket dimension and Zagreb has been stated to be planetary multipul times. Asta at country lvl I can get behind but he has a lot of consistent island lvl feats being continental is wild for deku. I was not sure on ftl mha but after this video it's definitely in the range
You forgot to mention the statements that Shigaraki is planetary, which would put Deku at planetary+. In chapter 377 of the manga, Mandalay is talking about Shigaraki to everyone on the battlefield, and says “the deadliest villain of all is about to be unleashed! Once U.A. Falls…All of Japan, no…THE ENTIRE WORLD…Will be destroyed by his hands.” Mandalay straight up said “The entire WORLD will be destroyed by his hands.” That is a statement straight from the manga that confirms Shigaraki is planetary level, and again, Deku is LEAGUES above Shigaraki. I know some people will say “it’s hyperbolic”, but you can’t ignore the fact that throughout those next few chapters, we see that each hero is actively making a point to prevent Shigaraki’s hand from touching the ground, because they’re aware that his decay is powerful enough to destroy the earth. So not only do you have a statement that Shigaraki can destroy the earth, but you also have the ACTIONS of each hero trying to prevent Shigaraki from touching the ground. In other words, why would they make a statement about Shigaraki being planetary, while trying to prevent him from touching the ground, if he wasn’t really planetary all along? It wouldn’t make any sense. In the next chapter, chapter 378, we see Shigaraki’s hand 5 inches away from touching the earth, and the fifth user reiterates that Shigaraki is going to destroy the planet by saying “Bad news kiddo!! The balance is broken! He’s starting up again!! We’re not in free fall anymore, but… …THE SECOND HIS HAND TOUCHES THE GROUND-“ and before he could finish his sentence lady nagant shoots Shigaraki’s hand off inches before Shigaraki’s hand made contact with the earth, because again they’re actively trying to stop Shigaraki from making contact with the earth, because everyone is aware that Shigaraki is going to destroy the earth if his hand touches the ground, and again Deku is leagues above Shigaraki, which would put Deku at planetary+. There’s also the multi continental feat that Dabi performed by continuing the heat wave that he, his dad, and his brother started, to the point where is reached America from Japan, and obviously Shigaraki and Deku scale leagues above Dabi.
World ≠ Planet. "Vladimir Putin is one of the most dangerous people on earth, if he goes crazy he would be a threat to the entire world". Does that mean Putin is planetary? Obviously not, when they say Shigaraki will destroy the entire world they are talking about the world as a society, not the planet. The heroes were trying to prevent Shigarakai from touching the ground because if he does he could wipe every civillian, heroe, and building within his reach, which is barely city level reach. Fifth user wasn't implying that shigaraki is planetary at all, I don't know where do you even get that idea. I don't know what chapter that Dabi feat happens or if it's true or not, but even if it was RoE≠AP.
I am convinced the Asta hates comes from Black Clover being the "Bleach" of its generation, popular not not quite of much as the others. Unironically Asta solos the MHA verse.
@@Keith_NormanI don’t know deku did something stupid like in the exam he was told to not say anything to that guy with purple hair if he asked a question and you know what deku did😒
@@FunnyNarwhal-tm2gt he was inexperienced but that does proved my point and all of deku's "plans" usually just result in bs anime power up and then him punching harder
