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@@Kaizenbestmc y’all keep saying things like Naruto has Kurama which is dumb the nine tails is apart of him just like sasuke’s sharingan is apart of him it’s like saying if Naruto didn’t have the nine tails anymore and didn’t get the other half of kurama and they fought that last fight and we said the only reason he won was because he had susanoo y’all might not know this but that’s why toriyama put the susanoo in there to combat it and show Naruto is still stronger realize that sasuke and Naruto was just on different paths sasuke fought to kill Naruto everytime and Naruto always fought to save sasuke way to big of a handy cap for him imagine Naruto and sasuke on that rooftop if it would of clashed sasuke would of been dead not only that again he’s still not trying to kill that nigga imagine you get into a fight with your brother that nigga trying to stab you with a knife but all you got is a stick he trying to kill you but you trying to get the knife out his hand while trying to beat him with a stick I’m tired of y’all argument
I think it comes down to there ideologies. Sasuke was able to understand Naruto’s pain and his loneliness whereas Naruto was unable to understand Sasuke because Naruto had up to that point never felt the pain of loss or losing someone he loved. It wasn’t until after all the stuff with jiraiya and pain and the war that Naruto was able to truly understand Sasuke with Naruto’s ideology proving to be superior when Naruto defeated Sasuke.
Naruto reaimed his rasengan to not do lethal damage to Sasuke. In a way it was the ideologies but not the parts that you talked about. Naruto valued friendship and those close to him more than anything else while Sasuke cared about nothing but revenge against his brother no matter the cost.
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Partially true. Sasuke was trying to kill Naruto at first because he desired to awake the mangekyou sharingan as Itachi told him. But in the end Sasuke decided to follow his own path and free himself by not listening to his brother and he spared Naruto.@@jasonbarnes6898
Naruto lost because he didn’t want to kill sasuke, I think naruto was stronger but his intent to kill was weak and sasuke’s wasn’t, also he made a promise to Sakura to bring him back so he couldn’t just kill him
@@sleepyash4647 naruto didn’t even use his strongest jutsu in the fight as to not kill sasuke (summoning). also it’s alot harder to render someone unable to fight over just killing them. especially when everything a ninja is taught it to be used to kill.
wait by the logic. sasuke also hesitated on his killing blow. he curled his fingers in last second choosing not to want to kill and follow Itachis words.
Sasuke didn't do that in the manga, but it doesn't matter because he was coughing blood and feeling side effects from CS2, so he didn't have the chakra to finish Naruto anyway.
@@andrepayne4349 Actually he does do that in the manga. he could have strangled naruto and ended it but he had already decided he wouldnt follow itachis plan of killing his best friend.
@@slackerrus8852Naruto had his rasengan in his other hand which was still clashing against Sasuke's chidori, if Naruto did that then chidori would have killed him
I think it’s easily safe to say Naruto had more than enough power. We know that the curse mark couldn’t be used for too long because of the dangers, also Naruto power would have kept growing and he would have sprouted more tails, and ultimately have become something that Sasuke wouldn’t be able to handle. Just imagine if that 4 tailed state appeared😭
@@AlanJia8 Idek about that, within the gap between the beginning of shippuden and part 1 naruto, in his training with Jirayia, kid naruto actually did spawn more tails, and Jirayia fixed the seal again
@@moomer2675 what are you on about. Man’s put a chidori straight into his heart and pile drived his neck into stone to try to kill Naruto. If that’s not killing intention then idk what is
@@jameschristopher2540 i don't remember anything like that, are you talking about after the chidori hit? If you are that still doesn't wouldn't had changed the start of the fight plus it's more of a speed healing wouldn't say a rejuvenation.
@@DivineMind9 sasuke was dead set on killing him. Probably wouldve awakened his full sharingan. Naruto could have easily killed sasuke here, he definitely didnt want to kill sasuke, so he pulled his punch at the end, and instead gave sasuke a mark to remember him by, it symbolic of narutos loyalty to their friendship even though sasuke was trying to kill naruto. Its basic writing.
But that fight wasn't emotional to him, just physical and mental. He didn't regret or feel pain from hurting naruto all he did was unlock his 3rd tomoe
@@angelmora1626 It is true that Sasuke says that’s he willing to kill but I honestly don’t believe Sasuke ever had any intention of killing Naruto up to this point. Sasuke had to act like a villain to both gain Orochimarus trust and convince Naruto to stop trying to save him. Until he learned the truth about itachi, sasuke hadn’t killed a single person. He cared about Naruto but also had a strong resolve that he needed to separate himself in order to grow stronger. Also isn’t unlocking his third tomoe proof that he was in emotional pain after the fight?
@@angelmora1626 u guys forget Naruto wasn’t holding back tho not trying to kill and not holding back are different sure Naruto may not have been trying to kill him but he probably really didint care if he injured him as long as he went back to the village cz “even if I have to break every bone in ur body” doesn’t sound like he’s not trying to kill Him
In the manga, his chidori actually went all the way through Naruto, but in the anime it just like touches the front of Naruto's chest lol I guess cause kids watched the anime and they didn't want it to be too graphic, but in the manga he really was trying to kill Naruto but then changed his mind after he went down.
@@creasedhorizon8931 facts sasuke put a hole in Naruto twice in the fight Naruto actually came to the realization throughout the fight that sasuke was trying to kill and he had to stop holding back but it’s not in his nature to kill anyone especially a friend hence Naruto talk no jutsu is so prominent but he asked kurama for enough to beat sasuke not kill him
@@creasedhorizon8931 what? Sasuke litterally put a chidori into Naruto during the fight bro but the last clash he didn't hit him chidori in his chest he punched himc
@@proleaguer9535 you know the manga I was referring to was from their first big fight during the Sasuke retrieval arc right? Like that's what we are talking about here, not any of their other fights. Also that's literally what I said, he put his chidori through Naruto's chest in the manga.
I think on of the greatest overlooked things about Sasuke during this fight is that he ABSOLUTELY had the chance to end Naruto with that final clash and decided not too before he hit by making a fist to not pierce him.
I mean in the manga not he actually did go throw Naruto with his chidori. The anime changes it to look like that but Sasuke was going to kill him until at the last moment when he looked down on him he didn't
In the manga, for the final clash Sasuke and Naruto just barely graze each other. Naruto scratches the headband, and Sasuke grazes his chest. Afterward, Naruto faints from fatigue and Sasuke was coughing blood and feeling side effects from CS2. I don't think Sasuke could've killed him either way.
Your thinking about when he pieced the king right? It’s the final clash Naruto scratches his head band and Sasuke retracts his palm and makes a fist instead.
Yes he could wtf🤣 bro naruto was getting whooped 75% of this fight Kurama had to save this man multiple times cause Sasukes natural strength is greater than Naruto’s
@@MidRangeJumperSharingan is actually sasukes power Kurama is separate from Naruto and he was nothing without it. He wouldve died on their first mission without Kurama before they even got to the land of waves.
The thing is In 1st fight Naruto was fighting just to scratch the headband. And in 2nd fight Naruto was fighting to bring Sasuke back to Village. Meanwhile in both fights Sasuke was fighting to kill Naruto. That's the difference. If Naruto wanted, he could have finished Sasuke off really early in the fights, but that wasn't his goal.
@@jasonmoukala8909 yea really go rewatch the fight, he held back a couple times where he could’ve absolutely ended Sasuke’s life and it ended up being the reason he lost the fight
Sasuke had chances to kill Naruto but he didn’t. Example closed fist in the final clash instead of a stab, using curse mark from the start, in the start of the fight Sasuke was holding back and was toying with Naruto.
Nope. He lost because killing your best friend is hard on most people. I'd imagine the thought is torture to a little kid with way more power than he bargained for 😂
@@MicahMane Naruto wasn’t trying to kill Sasuke though. His mission was to bring him back to the village. During the whole fight Sasuke was using only techniques to kill Naruto while Naruto deadliest threat was breaking his limbs and drag him back to the village.
@@MicahMane you’re not making sense bro, my original comment is saying Naruto lost for plot purposes and your response says Naruto just couldn’t kill Sasuke because they were friends. You either need to clarify your comment since you aren’t specifying who you are talking about or you are wrong because Naruto never had any intention of killing Sasuke so saying it’s hard to kill your best friend is irrelevant from Naruto’s perspective.
@@LilMurch10 Bro. I'm saying Naruto could have killed Sasuke. But he was a little kid with no intent to kill. So he didn't kill him. You then talked about how Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke so I said thank you for backing up what I said. I think a Kurama powered up kid Naruto is really capable of killing a lot of ninja including Sasuke.
that's a load of bullshit. Naruto lost this fucking fight. he failed to keep his promise to Sakura. sasuke won because he had a fair fucking reason, Naruto lost because he was dumb as fuck. same reason they tied in the end buy sasukr admitted he lost.
Shit was a tie to me cause Naruto was doing what he was doing in his second fight tryna get a point across not throw hands. Naruto even told sauske after the second fight sauske said you won, Naruto said it wasn't about winning or losing our real fight is after this. Basically if Naruto knocked him out he still would've felt defeated
He...failed a high ranked mission, let go a potential srank criminal and the last uchiha, made konoha lose the sharingan, all because he wanted to prove a point....yeah im happy they didnt get full details and focused on the him getting stabbed part, cus hed probs be locked the fuck away and or pulled off the shinobi roster.
He...failed a high ranked mission, let go a potential srank criminal and the last uchiha, made konoha lose the sharingan, all because he wanted to prove a point....yeah im happy they didnt get full details and focused on the him getting stabbed part, cus hed probs be locked the fuck away and or pulled off the shinobi roster.
@@lilnub3017 i mean,am I wrong? He did fail a high ranked mission to prove a point if he was doing it to send a message and that is not good ninja behavior
Sasuke did not hit Narutos heart. He redirected his chidori as he did not want to gain power the same way Itachi did. An advice he got from his father when he was still alive. Naruto also pulled back his Rasengan as well. However it's widely accepted that Sasuke was superior to Naruto at this time.
Sauske was not superior to naruto here at this point in time naruto could have used summonings while sauske couldn’t naruto easily surpassed sauske in just about every way in this fight Naruto held back sauske didn’t had naruto actually wanted to kill sauske then it would have happened but he didn’t wanna do that
Sasuke was not superior. Naruto was fighting to kill and his mind was on bringing sasuke back sasuke was fully focused on trying to kill naruto. Even then naruto had the rasengan and according to jiraiya the rasengan was stronger than the chidori.. Which sasuke concurs with when got mad after he saw what it did to that water tower after the hospital fight.
Naruto was wayyyy more superior. But just like their last fight Naruto pulled his punches and didn't fight with the intent on killing. Sasuke however always fight with the intent to kill. It makes a difference.
In the end Sasuke didn't kill Naruto not because of he consider him friend,Sasuke didn't want to earn power like itachi told him, killing any friend, so he just ignored itachi's words and earned power in another way
The reason why Naruto lost was because sauske had his version 2 curse mark and Naruto only had his version 1 kuruma cloak so reason why Naruto lost was because sauske version 2 cloak is stronger than version 1 kuruma cloak
Naruto scratched the headband after he was stabbed . How was Naruto arrogant? He had no killing intent the kid was trying to stop his friend from leaving.
That was how I interpreted it (save for the arrogance part). Sometimes, it's more satisfying to make a point and eat a loss than win via an idea that directly opposes your MO.
If anyone ever reads this Sasuke would’ve won regardless. First he held back in their fist fight. Sasuke was juiced up and no longer was being drained by curse mark. If Sadie stayed in the village he’d have either died from the curse mark drain or would stay weak. Naruto punches him to the point Narutos bleeding yet Sasuke is fine. He punches Naruto around and gets rid of his shadow clones. Only thing that helps is Rasengan and the retconned chidori that is weaker than rasengan. 2) Sasuke learns the weaker jutsu yet never perfects chidori and only creates variations. Chidori goes from condensed chakra like rasengan but worse than even INCOMPLETE rasengan and drains a ton of chakra (the one he showed Tsunade was incomplete) and Naruto has the strongest jutsu. Summoning is consequential and circumstantial and needs requirements met which is why he couldn’t use it in EVERY fight or else he’d solo the show (in every fight he struggles it’s Kurama example against Kimimaru, movies, shippuden until he masters it). 3) Naruto wasn’t completely tired. He relied on his mates and Kurama to fight and was later saved by Lee or else Kimimaru would use stage 1 (let alone stage 2 that could’ve killed Gaara and Lee if not for the plot killing him). This Sasuke also trained a lot to the point he had no weights Lees speed and also curse mark+3 tomeo. Yet he didn’t go for the kill straight away and was toying with Naruto. Plus he didn’t go curse mark 2 which he can keep up for a LONG TIME (maybe indefinitely) but he’ll lose his mind in the process. 4) he goes for a closed fist instead of a stab at the last second or else Narutos chest would have a hole the size of a head. Yes Sasuke did pierce his lungs and shoulder but Kurama healed that and the neck break. This one Sasuke purposefully didn’t go for a stab.
No, he doesn’t. Naruto moves sasukes lethal attack at the last second, which would’ve killed him. Also one thing debunks your whole argument, gamabunta😂😂
@@DivineMind9 I don’t think sasukes genjutsu was very developed back then and it would have no effect because kurama would intervine and sasuke didn’t even have Naruto’s power figured out. Also, we know Naruto has amazing healing abilities so I guess you can say there is plot armour but I think it’s mostly just plot. But what would sasuke do if Naruto summoned chief toad? There is nothing since sasuke isn’t that strong yet.
Honestly I just thought that naruto was holding back. Like if naruto used the full extent of that much of kuramas chakra he could easily kill sasuke during that fight.
@@bigidot6973 tell me you didn't watch this short without telling me you didn't watch this short naruto could have won if he didn't go for the headband
I think people are missing the part where Sasuke went from stabbing to a punch. A Chidori there could’ve killed Naruto, and Sasuke decided not to. Both characters were fighting with everything but in that split second, their true feelings won out. Sasuke didn’t want his best friend to die and Naruto’s just really petty
@@doban2975 2 things can be true, I think it’s impossible to watch Naruto, particularly part 1, and not think both Naruto and Sasuke are each incredibly arrogant. Sasuke’s more judgy with his arrogance and Naruto’s more bravado and outspoken arrogance
@@frozenfireball2341 You wouldn't be lol if you had to deal with an obsessed stalker/kidnapper like sasuke had to deal with and were supposed to believe Naruto is the good guy.
I love this, in both of their fights sasuke wanted to kill naruto out of his anger, but naruto wanted to stop sasuke out of his anger. Naruto had the ability to stop him the first time in my opinion but like you said naruto had no intent to hurt sasuke even though he was enraged which led to the punch sasuke landed during the clash
@@Justgaming-il4nb No it wasn’t that’s like saying Goku ain’t nothing without his forms, Naruto woulda been better off without kurama. If jaraiya didn’t spend half their training on helping Naruto with Kurama Naruto woulda learnt more things instead of only learning summoning. Naruto had to spend most of his chakra to suppress kurama plus it’s the fact that he’s a Uzumaki which is relative to the senju and uchiha
Kurama is also what held naruto back until naruto mastered his control over him. if it wasn't for kurama, Naruto could be better at learning new jutsus and managing his chakra in his early years. He is a highly ambitious person with a high battle IQ, high durability and big chakra reserves. Your argument, btw, could be applied to sharingan as well... It's a f**ing cheat code and op as hell, if you're born with sharingan, even with it's base form, you have a gigantic advantage over your opponents.
Naruto also refused to try and kill Sasuke at this point still. Sasuke was going all out. It’s only in their last fight where they both go all out that Naruto proves he has more will to win.
@@DivineMind9 Sasuke didn't kill Naruto then for another reason. He decided that he'd obtain power without killing his best friend. As he thought at the time he had to based on what Itachi said.
Saske wasnt tryna kill him neither. He cud have pierced his heart but he punched it instead. He had me after the fight but he just wslked away.Either ways, saske was stronger. Thats it.
Sasuke literally stabbed Naruto in his chest with chidori prior to the final clash lol Naruto would have bled out had it not been for kurama regenerating his wounds
