Why Do American Hmong Come to Paj Tawg Lag (China) to Trace Their Roots 

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Sorry, but that's just tribal folklore. NOT to say the Hmong didn't have any struggle against the expanding, powerful Han Chinese. They did, as did many other small ethnics whose traditional lands the Hans forcibly took over. But, yes, the Hmong WERE one of the original and ADJACENT neighbors to the Han Chinese. Hmong generational folklore about floods and mighty rivers, for example, were largely about the Yantze and Yellow rivers that flow from the Himalaya northerly into central and eastern China. Hmong have STORIES --- recent stories ---- about the mighty Maekong River; but those stories were created from the 1800s on, when a TINY percentage of Hmong started moving to Northern Laos, from Yunnan. More Hmong moved down to North Vietnam, but those were the Hmong in the most southeastern Yunnan to southwestern Guangxi provinces. Further, close to 100% of the Hmong in Northern Vietnam have been COMMUNISTS like the Chinese and North Vietnamese; close to zero Hmong from Nothern Vietnam "escaped from the Vietnam War" like Hmong in Laos. Anyway, the Hmong in northwestern Laos were those who moved there from Paj Tawg, Yunnan, Yunnan. My great, great, great, grandfather, for example --- my dad still knows all the names of those paternal guys ---- crossed from Paj Tawg to northern Laos (Muong Xai and Northern Luangpraband), literally just a stone throw in distance... Historically speaking, when the much more powerful Hans started expanding outward, from their traditional lands, which were in the eastern and northern parts toward the Sea and Beijing .... around the time or the First Emperor.... Hmong and other ethnic groups in and around the Sichuan/X'ian region --- especially the "trouble makers" who didn't want to conform/didn't want to be ruled over by the Hans ---- were pushed ever deeper south. That's how over 90% of the various related Hmong tribes ---- the 5th or 6th largest minorities in China ---- ended up, now, situated between Sichuan, Yunnan, Guizhou, and Guangxi. Roughly 5% of the Hmong in China moved to Northern Vietnam. Another 2-3% moved to Northern Laos, in the early to 1800s. It's 100% from those Hmong in northern and eastern Laos that the 500K or so Hmong in the West here came. All the Hmong in Northern Vietnam, plus 40% or so of the Hmong in Laos.... WERE/ARE Communists, so they fought against our parents and grandparents in the Vietnam War. They were victorious, so we had to take a long hike... crossing the Maekong to Thailand, from where we came to the West, in the last 45 years... One EXCEPTIONALLY IMPROBABLE but true fact: ---- it is from these 500K Hmong in the West, that the VERY FIRST ASIAN WOMAN, ever --- not a Chinese, not a Japanese, not a Korean, not a Vietnamese, not a Thai, not a Filipino, not a Lao, not an Indonesian or any other woman from the other much larger Asian ethnics.... but an 18 year-old Hmong woman ---- came to be the All Around Olympic Gold medalist, of the women's 2020 Olympics.... Her name is Sunisa Lee. If her kidney diseases are controlled and if she qualifies for the 2024 Paris Olympics, in her home state of Minnesota.... there are very good chances she would win more medals... what colors they may be can't be sure.... The TOUGHER part, for American women, would be to qualify on the America US Olympic Women's Team, due to the depth and breadth of quality gymnasts in America.... But once you qualify to be on the US Women Olympic Team, you're ALMOST guaranteed to win SOME MEDALS at the Olympics....

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​@ll51019 no. Only hmoob Americans have laos influence. Other older miao traditions don't. Native laos people are like khmute people. Laos and Chinese are just nationality not culture. There are multiple cultures in both laos and China.

@@kiabtoomlauj6249 You seem to know so much and I was so interested until you ended up with Suni Lee! 😂 Suni Lee did good but I don’t believe she is our Hmong people’s biggest accomplishment here in the US 😂 We have people in congress & several Hmong people sitting in court rooms as Judges, we have Hmong owned pharmacy & Hmong grocery stores all over the country

After Yunnan, Sichuan is better. There are actually HMONG whose language is intelligible to us there. Hmong were still coming down to Vietnam/Laos from Sichuan in the mid 1800's.

@@scottishd0g87 Has the DNA of all Hmong people in the USA been analyzed? All individuals who have used 23andMe to trace their ancestry find connections to Guangdong. Additionally, the White Hmong dialect spoken in Guangxi shares a similar accent with those in Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, and the USA.

23andme, only cater to the white folks. They don't pinpoint where you are actually from. Lol

Miao instead of hmong. Hmong is from SE asia

@@jol6310 How could the Miao people come from Southeast Asia? The Miao people came from the tribe of Yandi, the younger brother of Huangdi of China.

That is incorrect as it should be Miao. The label Miao were given by the Chinese for those who assimilated in China and not leave persecution during the Manchu and Han dynasty. While the label Hmong was created later on for those who escaped with their families or Chinese spouse and lived in SEA for many generations. Miao in this today generation has more Chinese blood making them more Chinese citizens beside them living there. While the Hmong who lives in SEA for many generations has little to no Chinese blood.

miao people are one of the poorest minority in China. how are they doing well?

So what is your nationality?

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Yes our Hmong peoples history are starting from China in the 17 th centuries after the Maos peoples and China are living together in China but in the history said Chinese peoples started the wars back in 17 centuries with Hmong peoples first then after our Hmong king had die then Chinese peoples began to kill Hmong peoples want to get ripped of our Hmong in China that’s why our Mao peoples had fought Chinese peoples until we the Maos peoples didn’t want with Chinese anymore then our Mao peoples were fulling apart and had gone to move or live in a separate ways then some Maos peoples immigrants to Vietnam country some had in migrated to Berma country so after many years then some Maos group immigrants to Laos country then some immigrants to Thailand that’s why now our Maos had live every where’s but still speak the same languages just some words had different dialect only wall are from the same continent we all immigrants from China during in the century Chinese peoples names us that ( Maos ) peoples but since we immigrants to many different Asian countries then we Chang the name Mao to ( Hmong) because the name Maos is not appropriate it doesn’t hmatter Hmong in China, hmong in Vietnam, hmong in America, hmong in France, hmong Thailand, or any other country remember that we all are Hmong the same ruts ok thank you.

@paulavang2987 Why most Miao people chose to stay in China? There are 11 millions of them in China nowadays.

@@youtuberx199 Our Miao or Hmong people are indigenous to China We’ve been there since the beginning of time. My understanding is the ones who moved out of China are only the very few & are the ones who did not want to go along with the rules of China’s ruling dynasties/Emperors at the time. Because of the vast land in China & countless ethnic groups & different dialects, some of the Emperors wanted everyone to write & speak one language. Wear one clothing. My understanding is the Hmongs who kept rebelling against the ruling dynasties refused to give up their dialect & their traditional clothing. People were given the choice & ones who don’t comply were killed. BUT most Hmong people today don’t know or understand this.. they were told by the older generations that the Chinese are their worst enemy & hates them & kicked them out of China The Miaos that stayed in China know the truth better

Japanese Huns Meat Turks As long as your ancestors have left their footprints in the Middle Kingdom, you can always touch their culture and read their stories by combing through piles of Chinese-character books. Never forget to teach your children and grandchildren Chinese, which is the bloodline that connects your family to this vast land. As long as they can speak and read Chinese, they will have 5,000 years of civilization as their backing and 1.4 billion people as their compatriots. The Communist Party slaps you to death, you are drunk and talking nonsense again

Central Kingdom Master Race.

@@jimmylee1408 Stop your inciting nonsense words.

No, Long Cheng, Lao! 🫡

@@generalnguyenngocloan1700 Long Cheng is debatable. If North Laos is captured by the Hmong people-if we win the suing and court case against them-then yes. Long Cheng will be a big city like Los Angeles. No Commie Laos to enter unless you give up your Lao citizenship.

@@KevinVang1000 Hmong🌀👀👍🏻

Wtf is another group of Chinese. Nope. Hans label us as Miao and we aren’t part of that group. Peb yog Hmoob

@@yellowneck92 it doesn’t matter what they call you even if it’s not a nice label. A DNA check shows Han DNA. WTF? 🧐

We all came out of Africa, are you African too?

我来自云南文山的hmong

We ain't no fucking Chinese

Origins as referring to ancestry your incorrect. Hmong and Miao ancestors were not Chinese. No one knows what we the Hmong or Miao were called back in the day. The term Miao were a term or label given by the Chinese. While the term or label Hmong was created later on for those who escape the dynasty persecution that currently resides in SEA or immigrated overseas during the Vietnam War. The biometrics your referring to is the Miao in this day generation that live in China. There is a vast difference between Hmong who live in SEA and the Miao who live in China. After many generations the Miao who decided to assimilate with Chinese culture has more Chinese blood. While the Hmong who who fled China with their families or Chinese spouse that live in SEA for many generations has no Chinese blood at all or a little.

FYI “CCP” is used mostly by anti-China hawks and their lackeys. The party refers to itself as “CPC” so we call it so accordingly.

They're ridding minority languages in many regional areas. Broadcast in minority tongues are banned, including cantonese which has a longer historic origin than inferior mandarin.

@@jimmylee1408 source: trust me bro. Covid is over and China is open. Anyone can just go to China to find out what you said is a lie.

Not to mention the one child policy doesn't apply to ethnic minority groups like Miao and others.

Even the Jews are worse. They have traveled from ancient times to modern times. They don’t even have a country. They refuse to assimilate and do not establish a country. They just like to run around in the mountains.

It’s not 60 million, it’s more than 1 billion

The yellow people in the Eastern Hemisphere are all related to China. They are divided into different countries based on different languages. In essence, they originated from the same area in ancient times and spread. Some are mixed with black and white.

@virgiliomateus They are 400 millions White people live outside Europe They killed all the natives in North America ( including Canada), Australia and New Zealand, but always lying and talk about human rights

A lot more, but yep, the majority of Hmong live in China.

Yes. The word "ceeb tsheej" derives from 京城. It got misinterpreted into heaven. But realistically it is just the capital city. In olden days, people were so poor that they can never visit the capital city where all the wealth is at. So they preserve their finest clothes and shoes and one day hope to visit ceeb tsheej in those clothes and shoe. But for many, that time never comes, so in death is the only time they believe they can go to ceeb tsheej. And those finest clothes and shoes are put on in death.

She from laos bruh 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

@ll51019 Oh, smart ass are you sure about that? Or you just making assumptions? Since you decided to flap your gums, go ahead and tell me what you think you know about my grandma's lineage.

Well can’t blame them. Miao and Hmong share the same ancestry. Now the Hmong and Miao can’t communicate well with each other after so many generations. The Miao has more Chinese blood.

In ancient times, there was no concept of ethnicity. The Han and Miao peoples were originally from the same family. The father of Huangdi and Yandi was called Shaodian

The Miao people have never established their own country in China

Hmong has 0 connection to Mongolians or Xiongnu.

Agreed. People often mistaken Hmong for Mongolian just because of the similarities in pronunciation. The XiongNu were not Hmong either. I remember from an old video of Hmong in China. It a profound impact on me due to the fact that he said, we should be proud to be Hmong and to do the things we do because what we did preserve our existence today. The XiongNu was a huge ethnic group and has disappeared or extinct.

​@@shailee9762 that's correct the Xiongnu were a collective group of people from all over. As group lost land, those closest to each other move as groups in different direction.

@@nightowl7261 have every connection to those group

@GeneralMoss Nope. Hmong had 0 connection to those groups, culturally, linguistically, genetically, or traditionally. Go do a dna test.

I hear this story all the time and its not true. Only a small tiny minority of Hmong had blonde hair in the past and that still holds true today. Also the suggestion that because some Hmong had blonde hair that meant we were once white people. As a counter to that argument, genetic mutations happens sporadically all the time and just because someone has blonde hair and blue eyes, doesn’t mean they must originate from white people. Hmong blonde hair isn’t all blonde too. Its like the color of dirt. Also the argument that blonde hair is really easy to spot, is it really? And blue eyes? Think about it. You must be really close to know if someone has blue eyes. Blonde hair just blends in with the environment as there are lots of plants that are yellow, especially during the dryer seasons. Yes some Chinese do carry blonde hair traits.

That story is false.

@@shinbi6009 Mountain albinism is normal, but it has nothing to do with race. It’s just a change in coat color.

@@user-mm7zi4ue7d it's not albinism ,my uncle is a red hair with brown clear eyes and my cousins were red hair when they were young...but with age,their hair turned black .

More of North Asian people.

Do a little more research, beyond the U.S Hmong people are for certain a subgroup of Miao people. there are plenty of sources out there that prove this. the Vietnamese, Thai, Lao even call us Meo, their pronunciation of Miao.

@@JVue997 That still doesn't change the fact that Hmong American are Miao and Yao of Laos and Vietnam. Southeast Asian Hmong are not the same as Miao people in China but are grouped as part of Miao people. The Miao's that comes from Yunnan are not the same as the Miao from Guizhou. Hmong American are cluster with Yunnan and Southeast Asia people.

Your talking about nationality. The Hmong came from SEA. While their ancestry came from China.

@@andyyang50 No I was talking about classification and where they came from. It has nothing to do with nationality and Hmong American doesn't have a country therefore they don't have a nationality. They are just grouped under Miao people.

True, but the racial slurs from the Han Chinese never liked us. History is dark, and it tells the truth that cuts like a sword towards an evil man. Hmong people used to have a country long ago. Three times, we did have one.

You seem to know little if not nothing about Hmong.

@@KevinVang1000 I am Chinese, the Miao people have never established a country, only tribes.

@@animalworldtv9220 Chu Dynasty is one of them. Dongyi Dynasty by Emperor Chiyou is one of them. San Miao Confederate state is a kingdom. What say you to that?

@@KevinVang1000 First of all, there was only the State of Chu, but not the Chu Dynasty. During the reign of King Cheng of Zhou (1042-1021 BC), the King of Zhou conferred the title of Viscount to Xiong Yi, the leader of the Chu people, and established the State of Chu. The State of Chu was just a vassal state under the Zhou Dynasty. The king of the State of Chu was surnamed Mi, and was a descendant of Ji Lian, the eighth-generation grandson of the Yellow Emperor. The "Historical Records: The Family of Chu" records: "Lu Zhong had six sons, one son Kunwu, the second son Canhu, the third son Pengzu, the fourth son Huiren, the fifth son surnamed Cao, and the sixth son Ji Lian surnamed Mi, the founder of the State of Chu. There were various ethnic groups living on the territory of the State of Chu. People living on the territory of the State of Chu were called Chu people, including the Miao people. Just like the Miao people living in the State of Shu (Sichuan) at the same time were called Shu people, and people living in the State of Qin were called Qin people. You have got the concept wrong. Most of the nobles of the various vassal states came from the descendants of the Yellow Emperor, including the king of the State of Chu. The kings of the various vassal states were basically relatives.

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@@tonywyli commie, you can't use youtube. CCP is watching you

Agree, sometimes when I hear Korean speaking I can easily identify some of their similarities in their native tongue.

Hmong people have nothing to do Koreans. Period.

We're not Mongolians and miao.

@@bassqueens Mongolia is Mong region. Mongolia people is Mong people. Miao is slave to Mong people.

@@bassqueens Miao is Nagaland snake origin. Miao is animal 🦒 🦓 Miao is cow 🐄 and Buffalo 🐃. Miao is dog 🐩 🐕

I only heard we're from tuam tshoj from northern china.

@@bassqueens Inner Mongolia and Mongolia and all Central land call China today is our Mong nation Mongol teb chaw Mong. Mong txiv yawg Kublai khan yuan dynasty is our Mong hmong ancient ancestors land. No such thing as Chinese China. No such thing as Miao.

I agree with everything you said 💯.

@@hanzhovaj4129 Thank you. The Hmong were against the Vietnamese as a whole group - both north and south! Beware of the history as told by the ruling powers, it is always biased in their favour. That's why people need to tell their own histories. Your history is you. Don't let anyone take it, steal it, use and abuse it. By doing that they are using and abusing you and your people.

Was it the Vietnamese or Laotians? I never hear stories of the Viets gen o siding us. Are you telling the truth or are you not educated?

you are wrong about the Vietnamese persecuted the Hmong after the war. What has recently come to life is those crimes was done by Hmong communist who are now living in Phosovan, Xieng Khouang pretending to be left over GVP soldiers. Hmong Americans have married a lot of these communist's daughter and brough them to the USA and they continue to leech off us after wiping out our relatives. the most famous one of these is that lady/husband telling hmong story and recently as of last year Lee Leng from Sacramento story shed some light into one of few butcher/rapist of hmong women, child and executing their husband (this was documented by French journalist; at the time they though it was the Vietnamese but it was Hmong Commies SOB living in Phosovan, Nong Het) You can see the multiple videos it's "hunted like animals" a lot of these kids/women who are now in the USA can testify to it. Let's not be quick to point fingers

@@shinbi6009 The opportunities to be wrong are endless but I know these things happened. I'm 67 years old and a trained historian and the war in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos had a great impact on me, and I've studied this period ever since. If you think the whole nation and all the peoples of Vietnam are united and in agreement and are all treated alike you're misled. The Chinese look down on the 56 minorities in their country. The Vietnamese do exactly the same in Vietnam with their 54 minorities. I never said Vietnam tried to genocide the Hmong and other ethnic minorities. Do a little study yourself. Learning is fun.