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My theory is they are clones that have the memories of the real characters. The memories they get with their squad after jumping off are uploaded to the organization's servers and when the teammates grab the banner, they make a new clone with the memories of the former body right before it dies and sends it back to the arena.
I think that there are still non-legends fighting in the arena because that would explain how there can be 60 people fighting in a huge arena while there are currently only 11 legends. I do think that you are might be right with the WWE theory but it might be the case that they wear protective armors and when they '''die'' they actually are just unable to fight just like with lasergaming. That might also explain the specific sounds you hear when you get downed/killed!
@@sapu6894 nah bruh revenant is just a man in a robots body. He’s been killing even before when he knew he was human he just realized when he got the glass in his neck
This one actually got confirmed, one of octanes lines is “have fun in the respawn chamber” suggesting they do kill each other however they respawn off the arena probably in the dropships
I honestly doubt that they’re actually killed and respawned because Octane is probably saying it for his fans and to get the crowds riled up. Octane is SUPER extra though.
In Titan Fall, when Pilots die they are respawned, so most likely the legends would use the same technology to be revived game after game. I think that (at least) limited Pilot training is required in order to respawn, since Grunts don’t come back.
@@pinki6828 His friends could've died before the syndicate made the games more like the WWE and it was a proper bloodsport. So maybe now he stays as a way of honoring them? (And maybe just because he likes the fame)
@@7evenZee ? Isn't this question messed up? It'd make more sense if you'd say "If it's *not* a simulation how do people have special power and abilities?". And I think some of the abilities like Octane's jump pad are limited by Apex's rules. I mean, what exacly are we waiting for? For that jump pad to teleport into our inventory?
Octane is quoted of saying "Hopefully you'll warm up in the re-spawn chamber" This suggests that cloning is sum-what involved, My belief is that the re-spawn cards are the legends conscious, when they time out, they are sent back to the control area.
Yeah I just think when you sign up for the apex games you upload your mind to a off arena area so that you can stay safe while your physical body dies because I think with the amount of technology in the titanfall universe I would assume clones are possible and even if human can’t do it somehow (dispite the fact revenant exist) pathfinder can do that because he is literally 100% a robot while under technical terms revenant is like 85% robot
@@X-B3AR_Xx ikr or like avatar (james cameron). Like they make clones of themselves and connect conciousness throught the link or whatever and their clones just die. But their actual bodies are actually safe.
In the Titanfall games, there was something called "Regeneration." Mechanically, it was how you reset after hitting max level. But in the lore, it seemed that it was a way for aging bodies to be "regenerated" at the potential cost of some significant memory loss. The mind of the Pilot set to be regenerated seemed to be scanned and replicated, and then a BIOS was used to reboot the Pilot's consciousness in their newly regenerated body. It may not be dissimilar to Simulacrums like Ashe and presumably Revanant. It sounds mysterious and horribly expensive, but if the Apex Games really were an interplanetary sport put on for millions, even billions of viewers, there's no doubt that the Syndicate could afford to preserve their Legend celebrities with a modified Regeneration process not unlike cloning. And given the type of place the Outlands is, it may not be surprising that potentially dangerous technology like regeneration, and bloodsports like Apex are both waived ethically.
Elias Mienshao I think I agree with this. Since, even though this is in the titanfall universe, it’s a while after the games we play. So I think that the regeneration by the time the apex games were created is so far advanced that they were able to use it to clone the fighters endlessly but having the original fighters in some of pods.
@@WxlfmanOfficial I don't necessarily think its canon that there are clones vs clones, but its certainly possible. If nothing else they could be restricted to just one at a time. I feel like this is why Crypto was so careful with sneaking and hacking his way into the Apex roster.
Elias Mienshao I wasn’t saying clones in a sense of a bunch of them running around but the idea of the banner being used as a source can allude that they can endlessly res pawn a body from the original of the fighter by way of banner information. The clones can constantly be made because the bodies are possible somewhere in stasis while the games are going on and there conscious is being funneled into the banner cartridge.
You beat me too it! I agree with this 100% And it still goes along with the legends not wanting to “for real” die, as well as the syndicate getting fan favorites. Some of the finishers and scenes seem too gruesome to be fake deaths... but in titanfall you could regenerate 100+ times with the same consciousness even if you were a “milita” technically. So with the wealth from the games and years of technology improvements this makes perfect sense to me.
My theory: the Respawn cards don’t really expire they just can’t be used until some password or something is put in, so after the match the cleanup crew or something pick up the cards.
@@nickzzz4685 the pilots in titanfall have their minds downloaded onto a device so when they die they are given a new body but remember everything, there’s also robot pilots so that supports the theory
Lifeline: "Learend ya lesson awa?" Octane: "Si. Yes. "I learned the most important lesson of all..." "...Jump higher before setting off the next grenade."
otterrr no they wouldn’t. They’re basically clones. It’s up to you wether or not you think of that as the same person or not since it has the same conscience and body
"Years of battle have taken their toll. We can regenerate you...at a cost. Your body can be restored, but much of your memory and experience will be lost. These you will have to earn all over again in battle. When you awake, you will RESPAWN as a next generation pilot. Would you like to go to the next gen?" - AN ADVOCATE
@@nobleradical2158 It may be what is happening here, if you take into account that this is 20 years after the war. They may have refined the process to not only retain memories, but also be cheaper and faster. And since the syndicate is a collaboration of many influential corporations maybe the advocates are in an agreement with the syndicate.
@@nobleradical2158 it’s possible that they repeat the same process as with a stimulicum, just with a clone. Just shove the digitized brain into the home-cooked meat-bag.
DarkWinter0115 if you actually watch the video he explains it. He explains that it’s fake like WWE; so what looks painful for us isn’t painful for the legends aka the “actors” if you will
I’ve always just assumed that every legend has some device with a single point of death protection in the same way as revenants totem and they get teleported to the ship when they “die”. Their items are then shot down in a handy little box.
I actually had a similar theory to this, in Titanfall 1 and 2 the “prestige” system was called Regen, and the commonly accepted theory is that this rebuilds your body into that of your prime. Primarily used by pilots who have faced a lot of combat and are beginning to lose their physical edge. I think that after one passes through the Apex qualifiers that Crypto mentions in his message to his foster mother and becomes one of the big Legends like those we play, they are given “insurance” in the form of always being able to regen free of cost. Blisk knows how to make a profit and is will to do whatever to make profit, and it’s not profitable to let Mirage die to a .50 cal to the skull. This would explain not only how the legends can seemingly never die in the games, but also never have any negative consequences or scars from death
This theory makes the most sence. Like if combine it with what merchant was saing it really starts to put things in perspective. And if they had the tech in titanfall then obviously the tech has been upgraded in the last 90 plus years to the point wer it can be instantaneous when sumone gets revived
@@raccoonvgaming4683 that makes a lot of sense... I’m sure it was just a joke but it really does make sense. The evo shield takes so many hits from specialized bbs before doing something that makes you downed. But, if it weren’t for the muzzle flash and the streaks when shots are fired, I’d believe it.
@@raccoonvgaming4683 Maybe real gun/half-real gun with powder reduced(like wood bullets/rubber bullets), but sure way-better armours than today were used, just like we have "real" sword WWE today.
I guess revenant is the only legend who ACTUALLY dies in the games cause of all the warehouses full of new bodies for him to transfer his conciousness to
Banners, literaly banners. They clearly hae respawn tech, so the legends wear soming that allows them to be respawned after death. Why does nobody talk about this
Plot twist: The mirage we play isn’t the real mirage. It’s one of his decoys and Mirage has never played in the Apex games Okay I’ve got a new theory: None of the characters are actually playing. They are all watching decoys of themselves play. Or they be playing PC
@@David-fh2vt That actually has some merit to it. You need opposition to become a star. Mirage is the caricature of all of the other legends egos. If se successfully acted out everyone else, he would himself become way bigger celebrity. If other "characters" still became more popular, well whatever, they're still him. And all of this is possible without ever doing anything himself. Everyone on the field, even himself, is just another mirage decoy.
In the first trailer all the legends shown are either the stock skin legend or they are in a legendary skin. Bloodhound is in his plague doctor skin and normal bloodhound is seen at the end. We also see caustic and blackheart. Lifeline is seen in a legendary skin when pathfinder is getting his 10 kills. The reason this is important is in cautic's loading screen "Blackheart's rage", caustic is being asked about criminals dressing up as legends and they are referring to the image of "blackheart". We can then infer that the different skins imply different people. So I think that legends do get cloned, but only for other games or being respawned. The original legends are the stars, and the others sort of act as cannonfodder for the games.
I think so too, I also think that theoretically, the actual legends don’t really fight, but just get all the credit from their clones or they just transfer their consciousness to a clone body if they presumably are fatally injured
Octane has a quote “get back to the respawn chamber so we can do that again” maybe it’s not a simulation but the legends are like holograms being controlled via a VR chamber.
My theory is they are clones that have the memories of the real characters. The memories they get with their squad after jumping off are uploaded to the organization's servers and when the teammates grab the banner, they make a new clone with the memories of the former body right before it dies and sends it back to the arena.
It could just be as simple as a teleport back to the dropship just before they die, kinda like a death totem but its a dropship where you go inside the regeneration chamber and heal before the next fight.
I think when a legend dies a box warps around them leaving behind their loot, then the box instantly transports their body to a medical staff to be quickly revived it's a theory
The Legends' bodies are cloned (not biologically cloned, but cloned atom for atom, as if copied and pasted, excluding the brain) into mindless, lifeless avatars of themselves void of consciousness, like an empty shell. These avatars cannot feel pain, but feel where pain would be experienced. The Legends are hooked up to a machine that can project their consciousness into their avatars and then proceed to kit up in all of their real world gear and fight in the arena. If these avatars die, are out of bounds or voluntarily forfeit out of the arena, the Legend's consciousness is disconnected from the avatar and they awaken in the consciousness projecting machine. CONCLUSION: *The Legends are NOT fighting in a simulation but are fighting in the real world though their avatars.*
I always believed that the Legends we play as in-game just canonically survive each match. The rest of the 49 players are challengers that want to make a name for themselves, not yet reaching Legend status.
The thing is there’s always only three winners at the end of a match. And in the trailers it shows ALL characters dropping in. So canonically, it means that some would’ve died .
hellopeople that still wouldn’t account for the fact that there has to be a winner in the Apex games. If all characters forfeit and continue to do so that wouldn’t be a very entertaining or “legendary” game. Also there is some story consistency in the trailers, as was the case with Revenant killing Forge.
yeah it looks like he's playing the titanfall gauntlet on the top monitor, some racing (or open-world game) on the bottom right monitor, and probably apex on the bottom left monitor
I have another theory: I think they do actually kill eachother and theres one guy that goes around the map, picks up everyones banners at the end of the game and respawns everyone who died Edit: Now we just need to figure out how the banners and dropships work
My theory is that inside the dropship there is something similar to Revenants Death Totem. At the start of each game the legends use it and then drop. When they die they get teleported back to the dropship similar to Revenants ultimate. I think the respawn beacons just tell the dropship to come there and the banners that you can take from a dead teammate tell the people on the dropship who is getting respawned so they know who to let out of the dropship.
I thought as a security measure they were forcefully teleported but only them and none of their gear leaving it behind as you get better in the re-spawn station.
Just an idea, in gabralters back story they mention that some of his friends DON’T return from the Apex games, in other words his Friends died in the Apex games
That us supported by the theory though because this was essentially a deal between the legends, or it was turned wwe esk after the war. Gibis talking about mid war.
Well also crypto’s sister decrypted the site and could rig who the next winner would be so u know it’s fake because they already know who is gonna win next
I just assumed there was a sort of implant embedded in each legend, that essentially uploaded them to some type of grid, and once they turn to banners if they aren't picked up they'd be "regenerated" back at base. Or alternatively if the banner IS picked up, they get regenerated in the arena.
They can still kill each other, but bodies that are killed are probably disposable in some way. And revenant probably enjoys killing the same people in different ways. Extends the suffering.
I think that “Legends” have immunity and can’t be killed but get evacuated. In one of Gibraltar’s loading screens, it states that he’s almost killed Pathfinder but he survived. If Gibraltar didn’t kill Pathfinder, how did the game end? I believe that if you have the “Legend” status, before dying you are rescued by the dropship and taken back to wherever. The rest of the other players in the match are just mercenaries without special abilities.
When they die, they are uploaded to the banner which teleports them back to a base (somewhere) and if another legend (teammate) gets the banner, it ready's a respawn ship in case they get revived, the ship then warps to the arena which you can see in game. hoever if the teamate doesn't get the banner, it runs out of energy and cannot call the dropship to the respawn location, so the legend is not dead, he/she is just sitting on the base and spectating. MY THEORY probally not true.
@@funkypants7297 The body is cloned back somewhere else in the respawning chamber. For all the corpses in the arena, I'd think most of them get disinterested by the ring, and what few domt get cleaned up by clean-up crews
Ok yeah so pretty much the banner is a teleportation device which activates when the holder is in a critical condition and teleports them to a base which heals them. The banner cards are also used in the games to represent a way to bring them back when inserted into a beacon. It’s called a beacon as it sends a message to base telling them to send the legend back into the game Edit: banners expiring are only for added excitement and just mean that the message won’t be sent to base.
Thought about it for an hour and came up with this theory. The Legends being chosen in the games are Avatars. The personality of each individual Legend is uploaded into a system that then we as the player go and choose based on an identity that matches our own. The lore surrounding each Legend through each season are events that happened decades prior to the events we are playing now. So the syndicate is just recreating the events that the real legends once upon a time actually experienced. This explains why so many of the same legend can be present on the battlefield at the same time. No legend actually dies in the games because they aren’t actually there. Each trailer for each event is a flashback. That gives us a back story on why the particular event was chosen. I believe Crypto and Wraith are the anomaly in all this. They are the only 2 who actually have access to the games in the present. The wraith you play with is the Avatar, the voice you hear is the real wraith. As for Crypto I think he is trying to intentionally sabotage the games. When he hacked Kings Canyon he placed himself into the system as an Avatar and forced the games to take place in World’s Edge so he could change the outcome of said events. Just a theory.....
That would at least explain the " i think someone is targeting you " thing wraith sometimes says to herself. She's not the type to talk about herself in third person.. unless she is actually a seperate person
I was thinking about how it wud so easy to make a Apex Legends movie. It could be based in the the Real World and in the Titanfall universe. Imagine the story is based on Wraith being from different dimensions. And all the different skins and types of legends are from different universes. And the Apex Games are their purpose in life, much like Wreck It Ralph. And the antagonists of the film? Over powered and extremely dangerous squads who are strangely more powerful than other squad (this will represent all the hackers in the game.) I would watch this.
@@mariusmeiser8360 weeelll its sad u wud use Into the Spiderverse for an example considering there are so many better movies that revolves around different dimensions. The best example wud be a cross between Wreck it Ralph in regards to the characters knowing they are a part of a game and the Mortal Kombat 11 game with different versions of the fighters from different dimensions fighting each other.
What if they experimented on wraith so they could take every person from other dimensions to use them in this slaughter this explains why there could be two different Bangalores I. On place and why killing one doesn't kill the other (that would be timeline related). Perhaps they place the memories of the normal characters into the fakes so they are technically the same person and this would also explain why they would never run out of legends because there a infinite dimensions.
@@Natdaprat it just doesn't look like blood hound to me but still everyone killing each other in ss3 trailer and they still keep coming back i mean bangalore die like 2 time in the same trailer
Many questions: Crypto's finisher he takes a USB drive from the legends, what is this? Also Crypto himself said he's not in for the money or the fame. Also Mirage's tech was designed to "protect" him
More evidence towards the building of the Legend's personalities would be how in WWE, some wrestlers are built up as villains in their own ways, which could be the real world equivalent of caustic and revenant
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My theory:they actually get shot with real bullets and get knocked out when their life runs out .that healthbar dissent actually show their actual remaining life,it's like laser tag you get hit u get taken out of the game .except the legends can get hit multiple times and it's actual bullets .but they don't get get hit enough to get killed ,they get hit enough to hurt badly and be taken out of commission.when they leave the arena they are healed and most likely monitor their teammates on a screen.when their teammates get the banner and respawn them .they are already healed to they can be taken back into the fight
With revent in the game and how his ult works it could be a large scale version of that built by Hammond robotics that lets the legends “come back to life”
maybe, but Hammond robotics is most likely suuuper shut down since the IMC lost the war. Even if Hammond survived that I can't think why they would invest so much into a fake blood sport run by a greedy mercenary
So if u go to cryptos quip wheel there is a sentence that says “We are all just data waiting to be deleted” what if each character has a data and when they just respond putting the data in each time ?🤷♂️
THATONEOTHER Guy blood splatters when you get shot? Getting your neck snapped? Throwing knife to the forehead? Literal disintegration? I don’t think the armour protects against those last three.
In mortality field would you bring them back to life every time when their partner puts them on that little cell phone thing and jack the man to that ship
my theory is that they have this like "device" that somewhat re-spawns them back at the base or ship or whatever after they are eliminated, kinda like Revenant's death totem. It basically teleports them back to base unscathed
In one of Octane’s voicelines in a season 3 event he says “see you in the respawn pod” or something along those lines. Suggesting that their is some sort of technology that can bring people back to life
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I think when the legends “die” they really just get critically wounded and then immediately get teleported with phase shifting tech to a medical post and then are healed and if they get respawned they’re simply brought back on the ship
This is the way. There's officially no canon answer to respawning but one of the writers, Tom Casiello, said that he likes to headcanon for himself that death is often closer to near-death. Someone like Caustic or Revenant will kill-kill you for good but someone like Pathfinder won't go fatal in his attacks. If you are killed for good, you're dead. If you manage to not die permanently, you'll get teleported away and healed, which is the normal way to lose a match. Remember though that there still isn't a canonical answer as the writers don't want to focus on that aspect. People's headcanons, sans clones and simulations are acceptable
Love this theory and it almost makes sense. Seems to me it's sort of like The Hunger Games. There was the wars of Titanfall 1 & 2 and then once they were ended perhaps the games were started to quell the potential unrest that could cause a 3rd war. It would make total sense. In answer tonyour question Tips were the starting point for me but I love the lore videos and your continuing evolution of content. Always enjoy making your videos! Otherwise it's pointless, even if you're giving fans what they want.
the legends probably just sign a contract, export their bodies and memories to a computer for cloning (respawning), and play the apex games like normal, knowing that they'll live again after they die apex legends are in the sci-fi era so it's really no surprise if they can actually just create clones to respawn someone proof they have respawn technology is the obvious "Respawn Beacon" and "Respawn Banner" system
now I love your theory but they are the apex games created by blisk who was making it for his new apex predator group but in the first trailer you can see wraith grabs the banners so banners are real things in the lore so my theory is that when everybody else is dead I think somebody/people look for all the dead legends and respawn them. Now you could be thinking "but banners will expire after a little bit." Game creators will always stretch how their mechanics work so @The Gaming Merchant your theory is great but I don't know which is correct
yeah i believe they actually die too but unless the whole squad is wiped then someone at the end collects their cards. we clearly see wraith taking one and portaling away most likely to a respawn zone. i dont think she just grabbed it for no reason.
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