honestly to me, one of the main reasons is that a lot of beginners are getting shoved in servers with lvl 200+ players and not improving. I find myself getting more focused on the characters and lore as well rather than the game, as I find it more interesting to learn all the neat little facts than get frustrated with sucking at fighting games
Yeah, the issue being that nobody joins pro servers anymore so they all gravitate to opens and it’s infuriating. I’m level 101 currently and its so confusing as to why.
I believe that one of the main reasons is how fighting games work (splatoon, tf2), when you play those games Usually you will play 2 to 10 rounds before going "okay I'm done for the day", And it's not just one or two people, it's basically everybody with all fighting games, people are playing it at different times before finishing it up really quickly. (And there's probably way over a thousand people who play it within that day). Meanwhile with other games like Regretevator people play it for longer(30 minutes to 3 hours usually) which means more people all the time.
As a regretevator fan, I can confirm that I do usually play 1-2 hours. That’s why I always regret getting on that elevator. Why do I play so long? Trying to find updates and waiting until my favorites leave the elevator.
i started playing the game in august and phrenzy was happening in that week, so most of regular players were playing phrenzy while new players were playing normal game mode; it was easier for me to actually understand and play the game with people who started new just like me. I am lvl 154 rn and seing begginers in the same servers paired with lvl 200's hurt my soul. The game is already hard to learn at first and nobody would want to get destroyed by some lvl 200 bio over and over again. If they could add a begginer server (which they were thinking of doing so,) im pretty sure it would bring up the player count even more.
I don't play public games because the particles from attacks pile up in full games and it's too much for me to deal with. I can do a 1v1 maybe a 2v1 but getting flash banged with blue and red effects while trying not to die is just way too hard for me. Especially when I'm new and have no clue what I'm really doing. Kinda wish they had it so you could have phights with people around your level instead of dropping you in the game against a level 52 Sword.
problem is there arent enough players for matchmaking so people would get dead as hell lobbies and most of the people stomping in public servers are people who are good but not good enough for pro servers or trying to unlock them
understandable, i struggled with that too and it was skin tearing 💀 but i just threw myself in there and tried getting better, kinda worked ?? its kinda how a bird learns to fly, ykno gotta take that leap :P
I agree. A load of things happen at once in phighting and thats kinda why its hard to make news on it. It all just comes in 1 bunch instead of a consistent flow of new stuff
Personally, I Used to avoid playing phighting even though i knew about it for a long time. Why? Because it was too intimidating. I Was scared of playing bad, and upsetting my team. But when i first tried it, i noticed that most of the community doesnt care that much if your bad or good. I Think thats also a minor reason why people are scared of playing it.
When you say that you’re new Your teammates:trying to make things work with or without you The enemy team:AUTO-LOCKS ON SKATEBOARD,SLINGSHOT,BOOMBOX,SHURIKEN AND BIOGRAFT
@@Loaf_X1 that is real facts becoz that is what i always see when i see someone say “im new” in the game 💀 tbh the game should have made fair games like people with lower levels put into servers with similar levels, but i dont think that’s going to happen.
Yknow what could solve that first problem, level appropiate servers. That way, people can have similar skill levels and have less complications overall.
@Tired_Tortilla Adding this has a high possibility of bringing the player count up. Also, there's a low likelihood of that happening, since (and this is based off of my experience with phighting players) they get really annoyed with skilled players, therefore making the level appropiate servers approach makes sense. Heck even if there aren't alot of these servers, that's how the pro servers are as well, this is just for people who want to take a break or are new to the game.
Yeah, I could see why people still don't play phighting or why people stopped. But to me, its just Roblox is an everchanging enigma, there's new games or old games that are popular. Phighting being one of the games that are new and *still* in the Alpha stage. When it fully releases, it'll change for better or worse. But as for now, We hope to get a really good community
As someone who literally just started playing today, I think that the 2 biggest issues I've had so far were the fact that there's so much you need to learn right away that it's pretty overwhelming, and that I thought it was going to be a shooter instead of a fighting game (which is 100% on me the game's literally called Phighting lol) because people likened to it a hero shooter. My first game I was totally overwhelmed with trying to understand everything that was going on, as well as the confusion that my attacks did so little damage. Not that I think the game is bad by any means, after some playtime I'm getting the hang of it, but I'm still bottomscoring and struggling to do anything helpful. I honestly wouldn't expect anyone who hasn't experienced tough games that take time to learn (so basically roblox children) to not want to stick around.
little cousin part the best little bit in the video‼️‼️💥💥💥 also, these are all pretty reasonable! another thing about phighting is that when you get all the skins, tried all the phighters, and just played the game so many times, it starts to become just the same thing over and over. along with the new things, rocket, slingshot, and a bunch of other phighters are getting a rework too so thats cool. great vid mister dex dextrix :D
I think a good way to freshen up the game is like... ways to change how the phighters work. Like, sidegrades. Like... pvz gw variations, sorta. Good way to make playstyles for all the phighters
ive heard the devs are planning on making alternate abelites for the phighters that i hope you would have to unlock by doing a certain action in a match kind of like risk of rain
0:23 yes EXACTLY phighting has been posted by boggio since 2022 and the majority of ppl that play phighting have lvs that go through the chart. Literally are lv 100-500 and stuff which is of course hard for beginners. Some quick suggestions are nm 1: play in private servers with friends (they help you out with trying new phighters you're consistent with like rocket/sword/scythe and etc but its mostly up to you) nm 2: try to practice out in lobbies of phighting. E.g skateboard (you can learn to master him by doing tricks in lobby just as well in normal maps) nm 3: server hop everywhere until you find a server that is your kind, maps also give challenges to certain phighters like slingshot.) (slingshot is better to mostly play in the ROBLOX HQ map because his E ability can bounce around the map). Tbh you shouldn't really blame boggio its one of the best games ever that isn't some ordinary tower defense of simulator game cycle. They also made huge changes to phighting such as making the phighters damage lower so you don't get one shotted. They added more op recent phighters like scythe. Phighting is the most underated game, and also their group boggio who worked hard on it :3. Mind that you should support their group and game pls.
the things also why ppl stop playing phighting is because its laggy for mobile and other devices that run slower than others probably. It also becomes the same thing over and over once you reach becoming a pro at it.
Honestly i agree with these. Especially for the first & last ones. Back when i first played Phighting, i was kinda overwhelmed and thought the game was a little too competitive for me & had to get used to it after a little while- i also tend to get bored & tired after a few rounds. But i mostly tend to think it's because from the lack of updates as well. I can understand why tho. Theres only 3 devs working on the game, & aidn (the creator of phighting), is busy w/ nationals-. The only time i remember Phighting getting more than 1k players is mostly during events- like phestivals. (for ex: the dove vs crow one LOL) Either way, with all the stuff they have planned, im sure somewhere in the future it'll probably get 1k players-. :"))
Nice video!! :3 i also have 3 reasons why PHIGHTING has less then 1k players 1. Massive level gaps. For suggestions for the game they need to add like pro servers and like casual severs something like that so its fair for new players/begining phighters so they can have fair matches. Back to the point lets say theres 100-300 levels on the ememy team and your team is full of like beginners and you just get instant death by each one of them which is unfair and a REASON why they need add sever option for beginners and pros to play at there own LEVEL and reasons for rage quitting! (I can relate to rage quitting honestly if i get killed by the same 100+ player over and over again 💀) and yes the game possibly isnt meant for beginner friendly?? But itll sure help begineers tho. 2. Fanbase/people Lets just say the lobby and like social. Starting off with shipping like first off ships (social) doesnt make sense like where the FUCK did medhammer came from that ship clearly doesnt make sense and subkit to they are enemys and they both tried to kill EACHOTHER like that shit aint no enemies to lovers bullshit like the hell. Honestly the ONLY ships that are like allowable in my opinion is swocket and hypertana + people dont pay attention to ages and shit. For people in lobby people can be pretty weird like yall probably seen those videos where like people say "a-ah~ s-slow down! (character name).." Like your kinda like making the game look bad or maybe like a character in a ship that people like smt like that your technially making the ship itself bad and the game?? I guess?? Maybe im sensitive but idk honestly and exploiters yes, SOME can be chill and funny yada yada but like they cross the line of chat flitering of yk what i mean which idk how to explain maybe 💀 also reasons why people are leaving the fandom/community! 3. Lag Recently the game has been laggy all of the sudden it can not be that big of a deal really but it you get killed FAST the second you lag yes it could be your wifi or device but otherwise it can be pretty annoying sometimes or i could be dramatic lmao Question: does anyone know why sever shuts down in lobby matches after a few rounds for no reason? Like im generally curious.
IMO, it's the fanbase and the game that could become stale to players. Personally the gameplay loop really feels fresh when I simply do tons of different things but I get the feeling since I had a huge burnout for a whole month before coming back about 2 months later. But yeah, you kinda hit the main points.
Tbh i think Valk(or creator of this game) need to add training mode or level appropriate server(players with similar lvl), because new players and low level players don't want to fight with 200+ level
That bordem part is quite valid ngl. I haven't played the game in a while and honestly other games that had updates were just gaining my attention more. But I will play the game again soon
ngl I find the game boring after playing for soooooooo long it's just the gamemode and you gotta pray to get a "bonus" or 13x or 66.6x for it to feel fun (not saying the game isnt fun it just gets boring after you play for so long) I wish they added more stuff into the game
The phighting community is a really big community, but like most of it doesnt really play it (including me.. I play private 1v1s and im much too scared to join public because i think i would get bullied) and i think theyre mostly only in the community for the characters 😭😭 Its kind of weird also. Almost like every few months someone gets called out for something theyve done, and its all on phighttwt/tok,, Like... Ppl yall r so wild sometimes this is the many reasons why people are leaving the fandom
how would you get bullied in public most of the chat just goes silent when the game starts and you get a couple "YOOOOO"s when something cool happens and then people say random stuff in-between matches most of the bad community stuff is outside of the game and public servers are really chill if you know how to play in a team setting well
Option 1 is so real bro. I cant eben lie, phighting has taken over my life to tje point where I'll randomly think of phighting during the day, before i sleep, when i wake up, or during a dream but ill never actually play the game because its so hard 😭
late to commenting but wanted to say you bring up some really good points! Esp for the boredom, and honestly the difficulty can be insane for newer players to get into. And with pro lobbies being dead 99% of the time, it honestly makes the game harder for newer AND older players. With newer players it's obvious, but for older players its rlly hard to get better at their preferred phighters! You don't learn anything from curbstomping ppl who don't know how to play, and it gets boring SO fast. Good video!
i have such an overwhelming obsession with phighting rn so im probably never gonna stop playing the game, likem anytime i hear an f my brain is like: FESTIVAL? NO ITS PHESTIVAL- this happened to me today 😅
I agree with the first reason, tbh. The skibidi toilet brainrot is basically just Roblox’s player base under the age of 10, it’s crazy.. I think Phighting as a game could work out as a game itself outside of Roblox, especially with the hype it has rn. Also another reason be that the tutorial isn’t nearly as good as it needs to be (I’m not dissing the devs tho lmao) with all the game’s complicated abilities, ult combos.. you name it. ALSO, an update page/icon/board would be rlly helpful for patches/nerfs that might lead peeps away!! (oh my god why did I just type that out)
I personally think having under a thousand players doesn’t really matter. I mean sure when you compare it to something like Brookhaven with >500k players constantly active it’s a bit disappointing, but I think even having 50 players is insane. Like imagine having 50 people online at any part of the day trying what you made.
I think another reason is tied with Option 1, as people like the characters a LOT because yeah, they’re interesting but it’s incredibly confusing for newer players to understand how to play. There’s a LOT of things going on in the game all the time, so it’s understandable that they just want to stay in the fandom whilst not actually play the game.
honestly atm i kinda like how tiny the game is. it’s not tiny enough where you won’t find anyone playing, and it’s big enough where you can recognize some people after playing some time and have a fandom. the fandom is definitely a problem sometimes, but to be fair that goes for EVERY fandom. replayability is a pretty bad problem but then you can just go into the lobby and talk with people. i’ve met lots of people just from the lobbies and the fan made rp game.
From what I’ve seen, it’s like REALLY hard if not IMPOSSIBLE for some people to play the game like my friend who keeps lagging when zuka says “hop in” and can’t join any server (and mostly cuz it’s hard for new people like me to actually play the game on public servers)
Yknow when i started Phighting it was real fun to me, I usually main boombox. When i was starting to get into the Phighting fandom, i started playing the game less and started to know about the lore and yadda yadda. It got stale when i played the game more and more
insanely high skill curve / learning curve if that makes any sense I was lucky enough to be put with teammates who were nice enough to not bash on me, but still
Imo there are two main reason. First being Phighting can be a bit difficult for beginners which makes it harder to attract more new players. Second is it lacks incentive to play, there’s no goals ingame other than leveling up and grinding bux so even regulars don’t spend much time on it aside from during events.
This reasons are pretty good, but for me; honestly, since the main game leads to the lobby of the.. well, game, there are a few players who like to hangout in the lobby; knowing for the fact that the actual way to get into a match of Phighting is via teleporting to a different game (to prevent lag and deadweight and such). The reason as to why I think of this is due to the fact I've been using roblox studio for like.. 4-5 years and such, in studio, the settings option of the game (where you can edit the icon of the game, the description, etc) there is a button called places and you can create a different game that is still connected to the main game. As I am typing this, there are 129 players in the main game of Phighting yet there are 840 players that are active in said main game. TLDR: The match servers are in separate games from the main game itself
I think the reason is because the number of players is based on people in the lobby, not at the game. And private servers exist too (a lot of people can only play on private servers). Based on people who are in the lobby, I think it would be around 1.5k usually, since there are few in-game servers.
It’s not that. Roblox had a system in games called universes if I can remember correctly, it basically connects sub games into actual games. That’s how games have thousands of players but most of the action is in the game and there’s only a couple lobby servers.
I’m not sure if this is right, but when I saw that the game had such I low player count, I suspected that it didn’t count the players who were currently in matches, only in the lobby.
I agree with a lot of the points in the video especially the one about 9 year olds, I tried to get my sister to play she kept complaining it was to hard. And big thing is also the skill level required to be good at the game many would rather play a trashy simulator to get that instant gratification
i think the reason why it still isnt that populated, is because the game had a small fanbase and very loyal one at that. which explains why new players first reaction of phighting videos is mostly of them getting beat up.
Honesty, for the first opinion it depends. Some players that are around 9-13 are good at these types of games, however some players arent as good at these types of games. So I think that children can play these types of games they just have to be good at them.
My biggest problem in the game is the matchmaking, or rather lack of, I'm level 20 and I keep getting paired with level 200's, it's not really fun to keep getting killed over and over by a Biograft when I'm playing Vine Staff, sure, you could say "skill issue, get better", but how am I supposed to get better when there's a 180 level gap? I am currently afraid to come back to the game because of this problem, and since the playerbase is so small, the huge level gaps are gonna become more common and more common until it's a part of the game that you just gotta accept. I don't really care about winning or losing matches as long as I am having fun, but right now, the game is NOT fun for beginners.
'Few thingz have happened to phighting recently' A few dayz later Zword rework comez out and the phrenzy releazez on the zame day, the 1zt day of the phrenzy boozting phighting from itz average of 700-600 playerz to 2,000
my personal reasons: 1. system: although yes, the game is good n fun, it isnt able to make a super big addiction compared to games like sols rng or ps99. the game doesnt have any sorta gambling feature or anything, as its pretty f2p imo. 2. recognition: roblox tends to not help out smaller games, leading to underrated devs in the darkness, infact the only time they even helped small ganes out to my knowledge was the hunt, which im pretty sure gave recognition to pretty controversial games... 3. the phandom: the phans r well...weird to say the least... theres quite a tad bit of nsfw involved within the community,, i have litterally seen an r34 gif on tenor of sword n rocket doing it. people obviously wouldnt wanna associate with the "weird fans". there r esspecially people litterally wanting to have "specialty time" with certain phighters (mostly medkit).
in my opinion, i agree with your points. the game has barely any updates to it, only ever leaks that dont come out until weeks; if not months. The game has gotten entirely boring to the fact i cant keep up with content quite either.
I agree with option 2 and 1 on this one, usually lil kids arent that interested in these things and would rather play smth like skibidi toilet tycoon or something instead, and also the very complicated gameplay. My younger brother could only really play sword and boombox because everything else is too complicated for him. And the updates too, even if a youngin' liked phighting, theyre likely not old enough to even have discord and wouldnt have access to the server, since its 13+,,, anyways thanks for listening to my pep talk lol
2:19 i dont get bored of phighting even tho ive been playing since the Rave vs Relax Phestival which was... idk like a year ago? and thats kinda cuz me and my friends just like to mess around in private or public servers and make up some silly games inside private servers ofc we dont play daily but we like to hop on the game like 1-4 times a week and play for like 15-120 minutes but i still find the game really fun with friends cuz you can either just talk with them while you play or do some silly stuff like idk 4 support 1 katana or something
As i came trained from tf2 i knew this was something like that, so i loved the game, the second day I played it i was so much better than before, the fourth day i got MVP twice So the game is good, if youre familiar with these kind of games, cause people unfamiliar with fighting games will get frustrated when they get in matches with 150+ level players, honestly i know its some work but they need to add matchmaking for new players so they can play against people their level
I remember when I first got into Phighting, thanks to my friends, and one in specific, in the first few times I played, I had them teaching me and carrying me until I understood mostly of the characters I also learned a few techniques from my friend, which also helped But not everyone has that, and that SUCKS
So um just to say, they only got atound 4-6 people on the team like modling, scripting, and planning and everything but idk if this is true so that might be the answer of why little updates are coming up
Pro servers have the same people in it and are dead so all the high level people are going into matches with people who are just picking up the game. often times scaring them off (I've had it happen to a couple friends of mine that tried the game and got basically picked on) and I can totally see why. Plus, characters are confusing and some videos on RU-vid that try to explain them don't actually help at all and just stunt peoples progression, making them not want to play really. this is just from what I've observed anyway, it can be different for everyone.
I see that many people complain about huge level gaps, and yup it sucks, especially when you have to be in a 3V5 match with the whole other team being level 200+ ( that happens a lot to me ). To be honest, what is the most concerning to me is the fanbase, literally doxxing and telling the others "KYS" about a ship ( I'm taking Medspace and Medhammer out as an example, both are pretty much proship due to Subspace ripping Medkit's eyes out and Medhammer being Criminal x Police ). It traumatizes me a lot that every time I try to join the game I feel nauseous ( call me sensitive or whatever it happens irl :/ )
My sister and I really wanna try this game but i get tremors just trying to talk to zuka to join a lobby (hyperbole but you get what i mean) because everytime i see anyone playing its always players with crazy levels (100+) and as someone who plays MOBA games and have first hand experienced getting matched with enemies who are esports tournament winners i kinda fear the same thing happening
The reason I actually got into the game was because one of my friends was over level 200 meaning they were able to show me how to have fun with the game
I really wanna get into the game and learn how to play, but when I joined a match everyone was a lot better at the game then me, and cus there’s such a small player count, there isn’t many new players to compete against so I just get demolished by the other team
1. Not beginner friendly Since the roblox fanbase is largely children of new players try out phighting they might find it very difficult or annoying to play especially if they keep losing because there’s this one level 200 in the game who keeps beating them up (if you keep losing in a game you probably lose interest in it) So that makes it worse because new players might quit very quickly leaving behind only the dedicated fanbase of mostly more pro players They should really make level appropriate servers. I’m level 60 and still constantly get bashed when placed against a team with that one huge pro Though it might be hard because of the number of players so at one time there might not be enough players around the same level like if their level is really high 2. They use different platforms to reveal information about updates e.g discord People who don’t have those platforms or just don’t use them might not learn of the updates coming( honestly I’m one of those people but I found it on RU-vid) and think the game is very dry 3. Gets boring While the gameplay is not really that repetitive and it still offers unique experiences, people don’t usually play a game for a consistently long period of time unless very obsessed. I’ve known and played phighting for almost a year now but I’ve only played phighting every few months while other times I have other things to focus on and do. Also because of the genre of game, people don’t play that many matches of a fighting game 4. Too many effects If you have bad internet or device, your device will explode from all the visual effects (condolences to mobile players) it’s just too flashy and new Players might not like it 5. The fanbase is a bit unhinged to say the least. A lot of satire stuff and weird ships (Ik every fandom is like that but still 😭) some of the fanbase don’t even play the actual game 6. People might enjoy the lore aspect more than the fighting genre of the game and only enjoy the lore/ character interactions and not the actual gameplay
It has low amounts of players because it needs more replay ability. You get the skins and level up, and what else? I’m betting there will be more players once they make a story mode, or at least some sort of other goal.
Honestly, this is so real. It is difficult to ecen play the goddamn game without my friends being in the game. Im not even in the discord or twitter or anything like that and im genuinely probably gonna take a break from it until something MAJOR happens
another small reason is because i play on a fucking potato, and so do many other people. i genuinely like the game but my potato clock crashes after 40 minutes of playing so i just gave up and im not spending more moners
Yeah tbh, i had to take a break from phighting at some point. It became boring and just made me mad when i didn't do well in a match.. nowi've come back to it and I'm having a bit more fun. I do like skating around in the lobby though
Nah, i think is more that the Servers closed after a few time. [I still liking this Game, i started playing for the Bivekit skin and stayed for everything around there]
I think its hard to get into the game. I havent played it much because when i do, i get into lobby’s with experienced players and it makes it really difficult to improve
If I’m gonna be honest, the game is good for roblox, but it doesn’t really stand out as a real game. The game is also not very beginner friendly as people will get completely obliterated by level 200s And I got pretty burnt out quickly on the game too. It’s so hard to process what’s going on to the point that the game is just an overwhelming mess. These are my personal reasons and not facts but when I ask for underrated games on Roblox and my only result isn’t phighting for once that would be nice
the general stuff would be its non-beginner friendly matchmaking system and lack of tools to help with beginners getting to the game , the tutorial was great but it isn't enough since Open Servers are BOMBARDED by level 250 - 475 sweats Oh and , optimization . Can't forget about optimization , lack of optimization options for players with bad devices really spoils the experience lmao
oh and i wanted to stray away from using the community as a problem for a long time now , but i can't help it when i keep getting random ass headcanons pushed as jokes on random people or myself , and the amount of discomfort i feel when shippers randomly start roleplaying with me when im playing certain Phighters , its like they completely lost their sense of boundaries or something . Like I get you want to express your headcanons but please make it sound like ur only expressing the idea and not actively shove it onto me because I'm personally just trying to kill the game or managed to kill you ONCE ??? like how can someone be so petty to do that ??? The game is very great , but the fact that the community , ACTIVELY , makes the game discomforting to an extent if you were to join a server that has THOSE kind of players , I'm very sorry for you .
Honestly, they should work on a better tutorial. I joined the game around 2 months ago. The tutorial left me confused and I left the game after 30 minutes of trying to figure out what to do. I gave up, but a few days later spotted a youtube video on it and decided to try again.
Hi, phighting fan here. If u want to get better at the game, get a friend who is preferably also a beginner and a private server. It makes it way easier.
the only way phighting gets to 1k+ or 2k+ is from phrenzies or phestivals. People would quit for some time then a Phrenzy/Phestival comes out and they come back. I've seen the game reach 2k+ on today's Phrenzy.
I feel like longevity is a major issue. Any form of progression is kind of needed for people to be incentivized to play more. As it currently stands, phighting to new is sort of a game where you experience some phighter, play some matches then leave. It’s sort of a necessary evil to add some sort of reason to grind.
I'm kinda New in Phighting and Imo it starts becoming boring after some games, I think they could add some things like events to get a limited rewards and skins etc and also a battle pass
@@kleber8793 they have a lot of skins they do events every few months and I don’t think they EVER will make a battle pass (also the game will do what people think will be an event on July 13th)
