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Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to uncover what happened to the rest of the Potter family, why Harry had to live with the Dursleys, and whether Death himself cursed the entire family tree!
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@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 года назад
Seriously tho what kind of name is Linfred of Stinchecombe?
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 года назад
The name you get from hitting a keyboard with a boxing glove.
@magicsdolbear19
@magicsdolbear19 2 года назад
I've got a quidditch TV series I'm writing and it's amazing I'd love for you guys to read the first episode
@emberandfriendsanimations2454
@emberandfriendsanimations2454 2 года назад
The kind of name you get from asking a kid to make a fancy sounding name
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 2 года назад
The reason Lupin looked so shabby/aged was because of being a Lycanthrope and the stresses related to that. As for why Sirius seemed aged more then normal for being in his 30s was Azkaban. The reason for Snape seeming aged more then normal was heartbreak with Lily and the stress of being a spy.
@zainrahman1088
@zainrahman1088 2 года назад
Who knows
@tieranalexander4475
@tieranalexander4475 2 года назад
Wasn't Petunia the only option because she was the only relative of Lily? It was her blood protection not James so some distant cousin of his wouldn't have protected him.
@oguzer7
@oguzer7 2 года назад
Amazing how they missed this basic plotline lol
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 2 года назад
Yeah, it's really simple. The Potter line has nothing to do with this.
@broccolihighkicks708
@broccolihighkicks708 2 года назад
I just commented the same thing, you beat me to it!
@darkroselight3835
@darkroselight3835 2 года назад
That was how I understood it. The Potter's could still be Cursed by Death, but even if one had been alive Harry would have ended up with Petunia.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 2 года назад
Exactly. That's why it's called the "Bond of Blood Charm". "The Bknd of blood was the strongest protection I could give you." - Albus Dumbledore
@marshallm0992
@marshallm0992 2 года назад
You could also argue that when Harry died, for that brief moment the entire Potter line was wiped out and thus there was no more curse, ending it that way as well.
@agentwashington4790
@agentwashington4790 2 года назад
thats what he say near the end
@petersascha2217
@petersascha2217 2 года назад
Credans is the son of Albus Brother and the blodbond gets destroyed because grindelwad try’s to kill creadens at the end of the movie and dumbeldoor defends him the courses cross and the bloodpact gets destroyed creadens goes him with abliste brother I know this becaus in Germany the movie is already in theaters.
@r3t1k0
@r3t1k0 2 года назад
What about petunia though
@marshallm0992
@marshallm0992 2 года назад
@@r3t1k0 I don’t think she really counts, plus she’s a muggle. That’s my logic behind it at least
@belrevan1986
@belrevan1986 2 года назад
@@r3t1k0 Petunia is not a Potter.
@jonathanfranco8547
@jonathanfranco8547 2 года назад
You know, it makes perfect sense that the Potter family made Slick Eazy's hair potion. Harry definitely got his untameable hair from them, so it makes sense they invented a potion that would help with their....HARRY problem. I'll see myself out.
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 2 года назад
Really, its more ironic that Harry doesn't use it. You'd think SOMEONE would have passed him a bottle at one point.
@TheBrothergreen
@TheBrothergreen 2 года назад
@@MercuryA2000 It's probably really expensive. Name brand, hand crafted by an all goblin workforce, blah, blah, blah.
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 2 года назад
@@TheBrothergreen ur probably right considering Fleamont was able to quadruple the Potter family's already massive fortune using it.
@nemasisdemarini8339
@nemasisdemarini8339 2 года назад
@@TheBrothergreen I'm pretty certain that, that brand IS HIS. He should just be able to get some. Which means that the real problem isn't that he doesn't use it. It's that no one told him about it during the entire story.
@evasivecookiv5870
@evasivecookiv5870 2 года назад
@@nemasisdemarini8339 ever tried claiming patent rights at the MOM? I hear its what had Flamel drinking elixir all this time, just waiting for his patent to come through
@uberian22
@uberian22 2 года назад
Harry doesn't leave the cloak he sticks it in his robes. He pulls it out and uses it to hide himself when Neville decapitates nagini.
@Trachitol
@Trachitol 2 года назад
Pauzed the video to post this, indeed he only drops the stone, not the cloak.
@66Louii99
@66Louii99 2 года назад
was thinking the same thing. it was stuffed in his robe with his wand. But dropped the stone.
@Marcus-ps9mw
@Marcus-ps9mw 2 года назад
@@Trachitol I was just about to come say that
@richardbarton4266
@richardbarton4266 2 года назад
Yeah I thought that too, but doesn’t that almost grant more creditability to what is said? He keeps the cloak and therefore evades death he doesn’t have to be the master of death just needs to hide from death
@loudd
@loudd 2 года назад
@@richardbarton4266 that’s a good point. In the end it was the brother with the cloak that lived a long life and willingly took off the robe and greeted death.
@gamer708886
@gamer708886 2 года назад
I have a different theory. That death, having been defeated by the third brother, found a worthy pawn to defeat a future foe. Since death is probably a magical being, he knew that one day Voldemort would challenge his law. Perhaps death did not feel cheated by the brothers but instead chose to test them; The third being the only survivor, the only one whose lineage stood a chance of avoiding death until the real threat emerged. Because it is known in death's lore IRL that he is supposed to be fond of games, so why would death in the books be any different. And what better game than using humanity to keep the wicked at bay by acting as his pieces in the most grand game of chess ever played. And against Voldemort, who would try to become immortal, Harry was simply his knight. Checkmate.
@christianheichel
@christianheichel Год назад
It is unlikely that death as a cosmic being existed. If he did all you'd have to do is build a bridge to get his attention. I don't hear any other stories involving death. It also seems fair to point out that in the books it is pointed out that the Deathly Hallows were most likely made by the Peverells and death was just a fairy tale made to embellish the story. It seems possible that a 4th witch or wizard in jealousy could have cursed the Peverells causing death to happen more often. But no cosmic being called Death.
@susantindall8711
@susantindall8711 10 месяцев назад
I like your theory but I prefer to think Voldemort chose the person who would be best equipped to kill him. We all know he could have chosen Neville. We also know that had Alice refused to get out of the way it would have made no difference at all. She would have died Neville would have died because Snape didn't ask Voldemort to spare her. I'm not sure I like the thought of adding in death pulling the strings
@SicFromTheKush
@SicFromTheKush 5 месяцев назад
I'd like to believe Rowling's a better worldbuilder than to have the cosmic entity that is Death, do anything to try to thwart Voldemort. It would all come out in the wash anyway. You could say that Death was trying to gain tools/pawns, but I'm gonna scoff at the notion of any thought of Voldemort specifically
@richardgunton9564
@richardgunton9564 2 года назад
Imagine if Mr. and Mrs. Evans died in a car crash. That would make Petunia so cruel for saying that’s how Lily and James died.
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 2 года назад
Would probably hurt Petunia just as much,they were her parents
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 года назад
It's just a bit too convenient that Lily, a 21 year old muggle born was an orphan. Slightly more believable on James' side as his parents were old when they had him and they died of dragon pox.
@nellebolton7910
@nellebolton7910 2 года назад
My theory was always that the Death Eaters killed them and made it look like an accident when Lily started becoming a problem for them. It would give Petunia a solid reason to hate her and hate magic but also to hate/fear Voldemort and what he could do to her son. (See He reaction to Harry telling her Moldy was back) she has first hand experience of the war. That's why she doubles down on the "all wizards are evil freaks" thing.
@tahraethestoryteller6079
@tahraethestoryteller6079 Год назад
@@nellebolton7910 a lot of her hate was because she was jealous that Lilly was powerful and more beloved by her parents Especially when she was outed for begging Dumbledore to let her into Hogwarts
@hmp4uaug27
@hmp4uaug27 2 года назад
As people have already mentioned it was Lilly’s sacrifice that put the protection on Harry so it had to be a relative from Lilly’s side so Petunia seemed to be the only one. So I feel we need to see what happened to other relatives on her side. But as her sister Petunia and Lilly’s blood is close as Dumbledore mentions that as to why it had to be Petunia.
@brianblum9361
@brianblum9361 2 года назад
I think the exact words were “so long as Lily’s sacrifice dwells in the place you call home, you will be protected”. Which actually implies he could have lived with Mrs Figg. The sacrifice lives through his blood and he’ll call Mrs Figg’s house home. Or Grimmauld Place. Or anywhere. The wording is vague enough to allow for an exception
@petersascha2217
@petersascha2217 2 года назад
Credans is the son of Albus Brother and the blodbond gets destroyed because grindelwad try’s to kill creadens at the end of the movie and dumbeldoor defends him the courses cross and the bloodpact gets destroyed creadens goes him with abliste brother I know this becaus in Germany the movie is already in theaters.
@AngelArcher17
@AngelArcher17 Год назад
@@brianblum9361 Maybe Dumbledore meant to say “Ya gotta live with the closest blood relative on your mom’s side due to some blood protection spell she casted on you at the very last minute”. Maybe the reason for Dumbledore’s vague wording is due to many factors and flaws: He might have underestimated exactly how badly the Dursley’s are treating Harry, he’s getting very old and keeps loosing brain cells after every traumatic thing he’s witnessed in his life, he purposely uses vague wording to sound “wise” but fails somewhat, and lastly, Dumbledore’s personal definition of a “Home” is probably different to Harry’s personal definition. Dumbledore probably saw home as simply a house with relatives in it that you are obligated to return to when needed, while Harry probably viewed home as a safe and happy place with people who care about you and treat you nicely. Another reason is that due to lost brain cells, Dumbledore might have also misinterpreted the spell and genuinely believed that Harry was required to stay with Petunia for the blood charm to stay valid.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Год назад
@@brianblum9361 It clearly isn't. Clearly he had to live with Petunia.
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Год назад
@@AngelArcher17 Lily didn't intentionally cast the spell. It's a piece of magic that isn't cast. They didn't need to be the closest relative, Petunia was simply the only one left. Dumbledore hadn't "lost brain cells", or tried and failed to sound wise, or misunderstood the requirements of the Bond of Blood Charm, or a different definition of a "home" than Harry.
@Zzwins
@Zzwins 2 года назад
Harry drops the stone, the cloak is in the front of his robes. Says so in the book, he never dropped the cloak, he just wasn't wearing it. He removed it.
@GiantProcrastiNation
@GiantProcrastiNation 2 года назад
When he wakes up after being hit by the killing curse he mentions feeling his cloak next to his wand or something like tbat
@Zepe89
@Zepe89 2 года назад
Plus he uses it to become invisible and scare the death eaters and voldy further. When he jumps from Hagrid's arms and everyone thinks his body vanished
@futuresonex
@futuresonex 2 года назад
@@Zepe89 Harry never actually jumped from Hagrid's arms in the book. Hagrid laid him on the ground, but it was Hagrid who first noticed that Harry had disappeared.
@benjaminkenney3706
@benjaminkenney3706 2 года назад
Either way he takes it off which is kinda the point he’s making🤷‍♂️
@prancescoblue1046
@prancescoblue1046 2 года назад
This is an interesting theory. Yet, it doesn't have good foundations. You assumed everyone in the Potter line died, because Harry is sent to Petunia. While it's true that Mcgonagall asked Dumbledore if there was any other family member and he said there wasn't, you have to take a few things into account. First, Dumbledore wants *Lily's* blood relatives. She sacrificed herself, only her blood can keep the protection alive. Hence, no need to make any assumption about the Potters. Second, even if we include James's family for some reason, Dumbledore is looking for *family*. And I'm quite sure there's a limit to whom can be considered family. Harry's 21st cousin 46-times removed would harly be considered family, even if they're Lindfred's grand-...-grand-child. Even if James's family was an option, how much blood would Harry actually share with such a cousin? And if there were no limit to "blood distance", Harry could just go live with Voldemort. They're both descendants of the Peverell brothers, so they're nth cousins sth-removed too. And it would be hilarious: "Harry, whatever he does, just keep calling 'home' the place where he lives". Living with the man who tried to kill you prevents him from successfully killing you 😂 Third, just as the Peverll family did, the Potter family could have "become extint in the *male* line" except for Harry. Maybe the Potters had tons of daughters and few sons. And I've got the impresion that having children is not that common in the wizarding world, as most of the adult characters don't have chiildren, and we hear about and see some elders who never had children (Bathilda Bagshot, Aunt Muriel, Elphias Doge, Neville's uncle Algie). So I get the impression that in wizarding families among many siblings one or two tend to have kids, the others don't. If that was the case, the Potters would have less descendants than expected. Also, some might have moved abroad, during those 8 centuries. So, if we consider the males in the Potter family who actually had children, and then we rule out those who moved outside of the UK, how many have we got? And how many of them are involved in the public life, rather than living in a small isolated village, with barely any contact with the larger wizarding community? I know Dumbledore knows a lot of things, is wise and skilled, but I'm not expecting him to know every single Potter in the UK, nor every single person who despite not having a Potter last name is a Potter descendant. In the end, this doesn't prove your theory wrong, but a new argument is required.
@Andre-vw4yw
@Andre-vw4yw 2 года назад
U make a good point, but look how many times Harry spent summers away from his aunt. So that means he probably could have stayed at any family's home. And yes, I do think Harry is related to the Wesley family by blood on their father's side since their father is a black through his mother. And I think one of Harry's unknown ancestors might have heen a black. Which would explain why James' parents took Sirius in after he ran away from home.
@KyeGuard
@KyeGuard 2 года назад
@@Andre-vw4yw The movies don't show it, but in the books Harry always began his summers at the Dursleys, even if he eventually went elsewhere for the rest of the summer. Meaning, he still had to call that place home, still had to spend some time there each year in order for the protection to hold. Otherwise he could've, and would've, easily moved in with the Weasely's or, when an option, into Grimwauld Place. He would've been welcome in both households.
@PhilBagels
@PhilBagels 2 года назад
And the theory has another very shaky element in its foundation: That the Tale of the Three Brothers is literally true - that there really is a conscious entity that is the Personification of Death, who willfully put a curse on the descendants of one of the brothers out of his own (Death's) resentment at being "cheated". IIRC, the books strongly imply that the story is not literally true - that the Hallows were most likely created by the Brothers themselves, and the legend grew around them over time - as most legends do. Dumbledore wanted Harry with Aunt Petunia for three reasons: 1. The blood protection from Lily, as you mentioned. 2. So that Harry would grow up away from all the fame he would have had if he was raised in the wizarding world by his fourth cousin on his father's side. 3. It's the generally accepted common practice - even among muggles - to send him to his closest living relative. An aunt - his mother's sister - is far closer that anyone on his father's side would have been, even if there were plenty of them still alive.
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 2 года назад
the idea of Harry living with Voldemort just so he can be invulnerable to Voldemort is the funniest thing i've seen in a while! :D
@prancescoblue1046
@prancescoblue1046 2 года назад
@@PhilBagels I agree, Dumbledore himself doesn't believe to the idea they actually met Death. And you've added some good points there, protecting Harry from fame is an important one.
@jehu1313
@jehu1313 2 года назад
"We like to use full names here." 10 seconds earlier- Calls her Ginny.
@MrSpannners
@MrSpannners 2 года назад
Ginnstepher
@anastajiiaa
@anastajiiaa 2 года назад
Ginerva Molly Weasley, I think
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 года назад
@@anastajiiaa Ginevra
@ibaadiqbal6180
@ibaadiqbal6180 2 года назад
For a few seconds after read this comment I was confused and then I remembered her real name is Ginerva
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 года назад
@@ibaadiqbal6180 Ginevra
@reubenoakley8967
@reubenoakley8967 2 года назад
"A curse that has destined each family member to DEATH!!!" Ah yes, the curse of mortality
@AlunKahul
@AlunKahul 2 года назад
To be fair the protection came from Lilly’s blood specifically. Meaning James’ relatives were out of the questions. And Petunia was picked out of Lilly’s relatives because since they were sisters the blood was close so the protection was strong. If Harry was sent to say Lilly’s cousin then the distance in the blood would have made for much weaker protection.
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 года назад
Weak lol the distance... the blood part sounded cool. But i think they chose her because she was blood yes but also because she was muggle.
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 года назад
Also to teach harry not to be like dudley or his relatives and to be a goid person.
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 2 года назад
@@franklinfleming1237 I really doubt that, in fact that is the worst part of Dumbledore's choice. It's a fact that hardly any come out of abusive homes just right. Best case, troubled life, hard time relating to others, therapy. Worst case "He was always a quiet guy, never would have thought he could do something like this."
@franklinfleming1237
@franklinfleming1237 2 года назад
@@insaincaldo voldemort was a racist do you think he would have looked in human homes 4 the wizard who can defeat him
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 2 года назад
@@franklinfleming1237 Yes, if he had any idea where to start. In fact given time if he came back and didn't already know of Harry going to Hogwarts. He would have probably gone on war on muggles to find him. Exactly because he thinks they are lesser.
@BRDoriginal
@BRDoriginal 2 года назад
I like this theory. But the real question: Is Death an entity that can be hidden from or does the cloak grant immortality?
@markbrown2640
@markbrown2640 2 года назад
Speaking of missing cousins, shouldn’t there be many more Weasley's at Hogwarts? I thought that Malfoy pér strongly implied that large families are a Weasley tradition. Also, one of Arthur's brothers thought Harry's pollyjuice form at Bill and Fleur's wedding was his son, which implies that there are other teen Wesley's around.
@atk05003
@atk05003 2 года назад
I just re-read the chapter The Wedding. They disguised Harry and introduced him as a cousin, but the only other mentions of Weasley cousins are both around Auntie Muriel. (This statement is wrong. See my correction below.) First she says "Another Weasley? You breed like gnomes." Later she takes a chair from "Another redheaded Weasley cousin", but the age of that cousin isn't mentioned. It's possible that all of the Weasley cousins are too old or too young to be at Hogwarts while Harry is there. I have some first cousins that are 20+ years older than me. (It's also possible Rowling just never thought about the ages of the Weasley cousins.) Correction: I missed the line about the drunken uncle. However, since the uncle was drunk, we can't be sure how similar Harry looked to that son, so the age still could have been very different.
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 года назад
@@atk05003 It's possible also that they don't live in the UK and therefore went to different wizarding schools. Actually, you can still go to Durmstrang at least while living in the UK. Lucius considered sending Draco there, but Narcissa put her foot down as she didn't want her son so far away.
@raineredacted161
@raineredacted161 Год назад
Yeah i dont think JK put to much thought to the size of any of the pureblood families when she was writing.
@jessemontgomery8987
@jessemontgomery8987 Год назад
Most of the Weasleys died in the first Wizarding war. So no there should not be more Weasley
@broccolihighkicks708
@broccolihighkicks708 2 года назад
Harry couldn’t have lived with anyone else but the Dursleys, Petunia carries Lily’s protection.
@icyada_plays3492
@icyada_plays3492 2 года назад
Depends, as J pointed out the only ones of the Evans family we know is Lily, Petunia and their parents. For all we know there could be other Aunts, Uncles and cousins on either Mr. or Mrs. Evans side of the family and Rowling just didn't feel like going the extra mile having Dumbledore go seeking for them
@prigg88
@prigg88 2 года назад
@@icyada_plays3492 no, Lily an Petunia were only two that the Evans had. There could be grand uncles and aunts on Evan's side, giving Harry second cousins. But my guess is that even if there was more family on either side, the love protection charm might be weaker if Harry stayed with them. Lily shares 50% of her DNA with Petunia and their parents & Harry. Dudley and Harry share 12.5%. The further out you go, the less you have in common. I can imagine that maybe protection gets weaker, the less related you are. If the cloak didn't work on muggles why didn't Mr and Mrs Evans live long lives?
@sarahmichelle473
@sarahmichelle473 2 года назад
That’s not what that was for. Dumbledore put a protection on him that was tied to living with a blood relative to renew it. That was in addition to lily’s protection
@jar-jarsforceghost1352
@jar-jarsforceghost1352 2 года назад
@@sarahmichelle473 nope. If dumbledore was capable of preventing Voldemort from getting to Harry, he could have and would have done the same for Neville and other children of order members. The protection mentioned throughout the book is directly from Lily’s sacrifice
@jar-jarsforceghost1352
@jar-jarsforceghost1352 2 года назад
He could have lived with whoever. They’re just all dead, we see them in the mirror of erised
@marcuswillbrandt5901
@marcuswillbrandt5901 2 года назад
Or the obvious solution: Dumbledore lied. Having Harry grow up in a muggle family fits the goal of making him as humble as he needs to be to later do what he has to do. In an environment where he is celebrated as a hero even as a child would spoil him, worst case he ends up with some pure blood idiots (Potters intermarried with Blacks, so it would be possible)
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 2 года назад
when in doubt, assume Dumbledore's lying
@akitaho1
@akitaho1 2 года назад
It's almost as if he wanted to make him have an obscurus, I just don't see how this would have helped Dumbledore
@whaddup691
@whaddup691 2 года назад
More importantly it had to be lily side not James’ bc the sacrifice
@Blasterman1129
@Blasterman1129 2 года назад
@@Tytoalba777 the only true answer that always works
@shannons9634
@shannons9634 2 года назад
Also for a period of time, the Deatheaters were on the fence about whether Harry was actually their enemy, or the New Dark Lord. if his closest paternal relative to take him in was a Deatheater or a sympathizer to their cause, he would have grown up VERY differently. Like Very.
@krystaLuvin
@krystaLuvin 2 года назад
I love how Harry's grandpa Linfried made the Skelegro Potion that Harry benefited from so often and that's why Harry's rich to begin with. lol
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 2 года назад
So often, as in once?
@krystaLuvin
@krystaLuvin 2 года назад
@@cjg8763 Isn't it also used to heal broken bones? He's certainly had alot of those in his time at Hogwarts. XD
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 2 года назад
@@krystaLuvin no. Madam Pomfry can heal broken bones in an instant, but growing them back..... It's very nasty business.
@paulbunion6028
@paulbunion6028 Год назад
​@@krystaLuvin your half right he made one that helps grow back bones not heal them lol
@andycarter6001
@andycarter6001 2 года назад
If this curse followed the Potter family, and technically their bloodline, does that mean when Voldemort was resurrected in Goblet using Harry's blood he was a part of that curse too?
@nicholeginsberg8601
@nicholeginsberg8601 2 года назад
Something that occurred to me if the Gaunts had the stone and it was passed down in a straight line. Wouldn't Harry and Valdamort be cousins?
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 года назад
I've been wondering that for years.
@mikehenry1488
@mikehenry1488 2 года назад
Very....Very distant cousins yes. They only share the Peverells Brothers parents as shared ancestors.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 2 года назад
I've always questioned if the Gaunts were actually descended from the Peverells. It's always been my understanding that Cadmus wouldn't have had any children. The love of his life died young, and I doubt he would ever have been with another woman if he was completely obsessed with her shade to the point of committing suicide to be with her.
@mikehenry1488
@mikehenry1488 2 года назад
@@AustynSN I hadn't stopped to consider that. Slytherin did live about 200 years before the Peverells. So Harry would also be an heir of Slytherin if they were related via the Peverells (So Harry could have given orders to the Basalisk). Marvolo Gaunt did say Peverells ring had been his family's for centuries though. So it is possible Harry and Tom Riddle are in no way related. But if they are its 700 years separation, so it doesn't matter.
@jlack1985
@jlack1985 2 года назад
@Mike Henry No, they are absolutely related, Deathly Hallows states that, I believe. That said, that doesn't mean that Harry is a descendant of Slytherin. The Gaunts, and Voldemort himself, could have been related to Slytherin through another of their ancestors that wasn't a Peverell some way down the line.
@sarahlewis2866
@sarahlewis2866 2 года назад
"The pure-blood Potters weren't related to ANYONE, which we know they weren't, because if they were, Harry would have had *anywhere better to go!*" Guys. I love you. I love your videos. But as you can see, a lot of us are confused by this, because we all know it was Lily who died and left the old magic protection for her son. Dumbledore tells him, as long as he goes "home" to Number 4, once a year, the magic will last, but the moment he leaves Petunia's house for the last time, Lily's final act will break, will leave him vulnerable. Right? I mean I'm asking seriously, SCB, because you're the experts. That hasn't been somehow retcon'd, right? If it IS correct... Then this line of the video is really where I had to stop and take a second, read the comments. Because it doesn't matter if he had over 9000 cousins on the Potter side, none of them shared the blood of muggle-born witch Lily Evans. Right? Just felt like a strange side road to take on what I personally saw as a REALLY strong theory about the Potters and death.
@banabasaveabadu3189
@banabasaveabadu3189 2 года назад
visiting number 4 once a year would not have been an issue even for lovely Petunia if Harry had somewhere else to stay.
@limiv5272
@limiv5272 Год назад
@@banabasaveabadu3189 Harry had to 'call it home', not just be a visitor
@armadillolover99
@armadillolover99 Год назад
@@banabasaveabadu3189 To seal the Bond of Blood, Harry had to not only visit Petunia’s home but also consider it his own home.
@mandipandi303
@mandipandi303 2 года назад
I thought Harry had to go with the Dursleys because it was his mother whose love protected him, so he had to stay with people who were physically related to her to keep that protection. Am I remembering wrong?
@zaidlacksalastname4905
@zaidlacksalastname4905 2 года назад
That's pretty much it. Haven't watched the video yet but the comments seem to show this video had a couple mistakes or logical leaps, maybe
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision Год назад
No you’re exactly right!
@briancs9771
@briancs9771 2 года назад
... or, to put it simply... Since Lily was the one who sacrificed herself and created the protection, it would have to be someone from her bloodline.
@carloszapata847
@carloszapata847 2 года назад
Lily Evans was kind of like Jonathan Joestar in that regard.
@norakropp_
@norakropp_ 2 года назад
You guys always help me through hard times, thank you! To put it lightly, I’m kind of struggling right now and your videos always made me smile :)
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 2 года назад
hope things get better for you. sending virtual hugs
@norakropp_
@norakropp_ 2 года назад
@@sylvy16 aw thank you!!
@blueninja2944
@blueninja2944 2 года назад
Yeah
@Sarah-ws5gx
@Sarah-ws5gx 2 года назад
I hope you are doing well!
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr 2 года назад
Sweet 🥲
@claidan
@claidan 2 года назад
Lily’s bloodline was the source of the magical protection. That’s why Petunia was the only option
@perkinsat
@perkinsat 2 года назад
I always love the way you read the passages from the book. I imagine that, someday, the audiobook will come out read by you.
@nickpanther8833
@nickpanther8833 2 года назад
Even if Harry had living relatives if they weren't tied to his mother directly through blood then the protection wouldn't have worked
@iball36
@iball36 2 года назад
If we're gonna talk about how few relatives Harry has, I'd also point out how many other wizarding kids are only children, including muggle borns: Harry, Hermione, Malfoy, Dean, Seamus, Neville, Lupin, Mcgonagal, Snape (imagine if he had a sibling), even Dudley. For reference, only one of the people in my life is an only child.
@a.r11384
@a.r11384 2 года назад
i think pottermore mentions mcgonagal has a sister. i could be mistaken buti dont think i am. Dean has half siblings. its mentioned in the deathly hallows and neville, well thats just mean..his parents were too busy being tortured to have another kid
@iball36
@iball36 2 года назад
@@a.r11384 I guess I made a few mistakes. My point still holds true for the most part though, does it?
@katelynnpaul
@katelynnpaul Год назад
This is explained though, i don't remember where. Molly mentions it. Harry's generation was born during a war, so less people were having kids.
@treequux3996
@treequux3996 2 года назад
If Sirius dyed his hair, would his fur be that color when he transforms into a dog?
@DonDueed
@DonDueed 2 года назад
Yes, but only the fur on the top of his head. Even the ears would have his normal black fur.
@davenclawthehobbit2842
@davenclawthehobbit2842 2 года назад
There is a simpler reason why Harry went to the Dursleys... Petunia is Lily's only blood relative... Even if everyone in the magical world was a Potter, James didn't trigger the protection, Lily did
@TheAwsomeness324
@TheAwsomeness324 2 года назад
Every now and then I take a brief moment to take a good look at y’all’s background to spot any new things you’ve added to the collection. Always a pleasant surprise noticing how beaten it was before and how packed with items it is now. Takes me back to the days y’all hadn’t hit a million subs yet. Always quality content from both you brothers and your team.
@cathycarroll3788
@cathycarroll3788 2 года назад
Petunia is the closest family member to Lily who actually made the sacrifice. Harry's protection was fostered by the sister's blood connection. Dumbledore also wanted him away from the wizard world.
@earthbloodelf5289
@earthbloodelf5289 2 года назад
I am now realizing we're getting close to the 10 year anniversary of SCB, I'm sure you guys have some great things planned!
@coolnerdlll6053
@coolnerdlll6053 2 года назад
Is there anything in this series that doesn't have to do with Death? Next you'll be saying Hedwig had a run-in with Death. ...Wait a minute.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 года назад
😱
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr 2 года назад
Lol
@randomperson2777
@randomperson2777 2 года назад
4:04 “Today’s a fun day, isn’t it?” 🤣
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr
@hot.blonde.orphan.loverr 2 года назад
Everything u guys r saying just makes so much SENSE
@Chikararyoku
@Chikararyoku 2 года назад
I noticed your mistake. Harry did not drop the cloak, he stuffed it in his own clothes. when he got up, in the books, he put on his cloak he dropped his cloak when he faced Voldemort for the final time
@thepuzzleoracle6760
@thepuzzleoracle6760 2 года назад
Yes!!!!! The final battle started with Neville beheading the snake and Harry disappeared in all the mayhem. But that’s just in the books, unfortunately.
@karlisalandi7891
@karlisalandi7891 2 года назад
Just came into comments for this exact thing :D
@collinmadden4874
@collinmadden4874 2 года назад
@@karlisalandi7891 same
@Chikararyoku
@Chikararyoku 2 года назад
@@thepuzzleoracle6760 and another part about this theory, Harry needed a blood relative of his mother since she gave her life to protect him, not a distant relative of his father
@jossposs3400
@jossposs3400 2 года назад
But Hardwin's(?) siblings family lines would be _very_ distant relatives. I mean, is it normal to know such distant family?
@TheAnalyticalEngine
@TheAnalyticalEngine 2 года назад
Plus, who knows how many of them still carry the name of Potter - they probably married into a bunch of other magical lineages
@jossposs3400
@jossposs3400 2 года назад
@@TheAnalyticalEngine yes, that too. It would be hard to find them.
@jimmygregory8047
@jimmygregory8047 2 года назад
Harry did have at least one living cousin, Voldemort, but I’m guessing Dumbledore might not have wanted to leave Harry with a vapor form of Voldemort to raise him
@amberherrod6110
@amberherrod6110 Год назад
I always think this. Slytherins locket IS the resurrection stone so Voldemort could well be Harry’s relative. Not many people think this and it’s never mentioned that the resurrection stone is passed down the family lines and Salazar is a distant peverell. It could also be that the 2nd brother had no kids with his love being dead (unless they had kids before). But it is possible and I’m surprised no-one ever mentions this
@thestorysaurus
@thestorysaurus 2 года назад
At 10:09 when he said The Invisibility Cloak, I literally gasped out load, it all clicked in my head XD
@Charlie-fi5cv
@Charlie-fi5cv 2 года назад
We not gonna talk about the fact the family that took Harry in had to be Lily's blood relative? Her parents were older, like James's I believe, and while James's parents were probably killed by death eaters, Lily's parents died of an unknown illness. So Petunia was the only known blood relative of Harry's left.
@foodofthegods
@foodofthegods 2 года назад
Fleamont and Euphemia Potter died of dragon pox.
@kinga3731
@kinga3731 2 года назад
Yes! But I'm sure that if Harry actually had any relatives on James' side left, they would definitely provide some kind of support, at least in the wizarding world - they'd definitely know about his existence after what had happened.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 2 года назад
When Dumbledore chose the Dursleys, he chose them for the bond of blood. In order for the bond of blood to form, the new house owner has to be blood-related to LILY, not James. James didn't bestow sacrificial protection onto Lily or Harry. So any of James' relatives wouldn't have been good enough to make the bond of blood.
@johneubanks6005
@johneubanks6005 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. I have been wondering about this for awhile.
@ShootNowAskLater01
@ShootNowAskLater01 Год назад
He didn’t drop the cloak in the forest. He dropped the Resurrection Stone. He put the cloak in his waistband with his wand.
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 2 года назад
here’s my theory for the evans’ deaths. They were called on to a reality show that was actually a surprise magic show with a “pretend” wizard behind a mask who “accidentally” killed them under “mysterious circumstances” and the wizard was actually voldemort.
@drishalballaney6590
@drishalballaney6590 2 года назад
I don't think Voldy's plans might be that extensive lol
@missjessilla
@missjessilla 2 года назад
Didn’t Harry have to live with the Dursley’s because it was Lilly who cast the protection spell on him, and by staying with Petunia (who was Lilly’s sister) he reinforced its protection? Thus is why he had to stay with her. Also, as Petunia wasn’t related to the Three Brothers she was in no harms way of Death.
@MDev1997
@MDev1997 2 года назад
Thank god you finally did a theory on this cuz this is something I've spent YEARS wondering about
@garethbaird650
@garethbaird650 2 года назад
Finally get to watch this one 10 days after it being uploaded 😁 I just binge watched everyone of the supercarlinbrothers harry potter play list
@dr521
@dr521 2 года назад
6:52 “Wizemagot” lol
@g.p.s-yourfunishere6635
@g.p.s-yourfunishere6635 2 года назад
Yas! Finally here when one just drops! Woohoo!
@jameskirk4692
@jameskirk4692 2 года назад
It fits very nicely! Thank you for the video! It is very interesting as always.
@ryanspratt4161
@ryanspratt4161 2 года назад
Great theory that’s maybe my favorite one so far!!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 года назад
This is a bit weird for me if my parents died when I was younger, I only have an auntie alive, I have other much more distant family but they are estranged (I don't mean like Beatrix), and I'm pretty sure I don't have a curse from Death themselves on me. So maybe it was just the potters had drifted away, I imagine Lily's parents would be weirded out by her new husband etc.
@thesimslover82884
@thesimslover82884 2 года назад
Lily's parents weren't against her being a witch. They were excited for her, and amazed. Her sister was the jealous/prejudiced one.
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 2 года назад
They were probably gone by the time she married James. This is especially likely given that they were gone by the time Harry was orphaned and he was only a year old when they died.
@R_Beam55
@R_Beam55 2 года назад
Here so early the next Potter hasn't died yet.
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 года назад
but it cant be far off right?
@l393ndjean
@l393ndjean 2 года назад
ooop, they've died now
@R4yn3N3r3id
@R4yn3N3r3id 2 года назад
Most Solid theory you guys have come up with. I kinda got chills at the end of this vid!
@air1fire
@air1fire 2 года назад
It feels so good to see clips from actually good movies ☺️
@pendragonfan42
@pendragonfan42 2 года назад
I don’t know why i expected the brothers’ encounter with death to have been so long ago but going from that to the 1980s in less than 10 generations seems rather intense to me
@vladimiramatejova1796
@vladimiramatejova1796 2 года назад
it is not 10 generations to the 3 brothers it is 10 generations to the first/last peverel in the potter family
@boltingvulture9970
@boltingvulture9970 2 года назад
When did Fleamont and Euphemia die? We know Sirius moved in when he was 16- which means there was less than a 5 year window between their deaths and James & Lilly's.
@caitlinpechman3148
@caitlinpechman3148 2 года назад
I think it was a month or two after Harry was born
@Luvcatz88
@Luvcatz88 2 года назад
Dudley's giant head 🤣💗 gosh I love this
@avi3022
@avi3022 2 года назад
OMG I FINALLY FOUND THE CHANNEL THAT I WATCHED LIKE CRAZY A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN I WAS OBSESSED WITH HARRY POTTER FOR THE 2ND TIME AROUND!! I AM FINALLY WATCHING FANTASTIC BEASTS AND I REMEMBERED THEM! THE INTRO HIT ME WITH SOME WEIRD NOSTALGIA AHH
@chrisventimiglia3763
@chrisventimiglia3763 2 года назад
The charm protecting Harry was sealed from LILLYS blood .... had zero to do with the Potter line .... this whole video is flawed....
@iball36
@iball36 2 года назад
8:55 - 9:19 An explanation for this could simply be that we just don't know about the other relatives. How many of you know about your 27th cousins?
@atk05003
@atk05003 2 года назад
Even in circles where family history is popular (like my family), knowing all of your cousins past about 4th cousins is very rare (4th cousins share just great-great-great grandparents).
@Boppo_Jr
@Boppo_Jr 2 года назад
7:07 funniest thing ive seen all week. woke up the house laughing lol
@bhavens9149
@bhavens9149 2 года назад
Well to quote the great Simon R Green "you're only immortal until you die, then you were just very long lived."
@yaroslavpanych2067
@yaroslavpanych2067 2 года назад
Other Potters? Do they realize 5 generations and that is it, you basically do no aware that those people are your family. They are strangers! Original 7 Potter children could be very reproductive, but they too far away from from bottom of tree to be associated, unless there is very noticeable trace. Last name can be even lost immediately due to daughter only children. For all we know, Fudge might be relative or Diggory, or Goyle.
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 2 года назад
Interesting idea but I think you're completely wrong here. Harry had to live with Petunia because she was Lily's blood relative, the Potter line wasn't. They might be some distant Potters still alive but they wouldn't matter because they're not connected to Lily in any way.
@Colipopkola
@Colipopkola 2 года назад
I really like when we get these kind of theories. Always makes you wonder! 🤔
@waynesmith3908
@waynesmith3908 2 года назад
Hey Jay and Ben, great work once again on the video The Cursed Potter Family !! Once again you proved no matter how much you study The Harry Potter stories there is strangely always more to study !! ~ Don't you just love THAT !!
@dear-future-ai
@dear-future-ai 2 года назад
Funny how the third brother was the first cursed potter line by having his brothers killed
@person5576
@person5576 2 года назад
Actually I think that Harry went to the Dursley’s because Dumbledore wanted him to live a somewhat normal life for at least a little, and make sure that he wasn’t arrogant and spoiled when he went to Hogwarts but whatever doesn’t matter I guess. Love your videos!
@carilabok6319
@carilabok6319 2 года назад
True. He definitely wanted Harry with a muggle family to grow up humble, and even if there were distant Potters, Petunia would still be his only non-magical family member.
@CarlyTfa
@CarlyTfa 2 года назад
Dumbledore even said that to harry at the end of order of the phoenix! He tells him he didn't want him to become this spoiled little prince. Intention = good. How it was handled = meeh 😂
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 2 года назад
It was necessary for him to live with the Dursley's to ensure the Love Charm held to protect him.
@gadylan1
@gadylan1 2 года назад
@@morrigankasa570 exactly cause a potter would not have been able to continue the charm only an evans could and the only one who would be able to know and understand what Harry was, was Petunia. Unfortunately☹️
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 2 года назад
@@gadylan1 Besides if neither of Petunia & Lily's parents had siblings that reduces the Evans family line especially if they come from a long line of only children. An even bigger potential proof of that is Dudley was an only child (technically) and I'm pretty sure it's fairly common for only children to beget only 1 offspring. So that too can be a factor. Additionally the way I understand the Love Charm thing is for it to work it has to be a close blood relative, so even if Lily & Petunia had cousins that bond isn't close enough unless they are first cousins.
@asallee2
@asallee2 2 года назад
Loved this analysis.
@lavishinglife2567
@lavishinglife2567 2 года назад
WOAHHHH this is probably the most brilliant HP theory you ever gave
@leoweller15
@leoweller15 2 года назад
Petunia was the only option because Lily's protection would live on with Petunia, which Dumbledore even stated, which meant he could not go to any relative of James
@kassidykelly355
@kassidykelly355 2 года назад
on the topic of todays video - wasn't Euphmia Potter a Black by birth? the Potters were related tot the other purebloods - how else could they have remained pure-blooded? Harry ended up with the Dursley's because of Lily's blood protection. This theory is really cool, but there are some rather big holes.
@rubygracemoseley8144
@rubygracemoseley8144 11 месяцев назад
“Way to go pal!” That part was hilarious 😂
@aliceforsmark5147
@aliceforsmark5147 2 года назад
Okay no but this is scary, I was thinking about this yesterday and now you come with answers?!?!!
@followeroc2
@followeroc2 2 года назад
All this talk of genealogy had me wondering if Hogwarts will ever have a Dursley attending. The Evans family has already produced Lily, maybe Dudley an Evans descendant will have magical children.
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 2 года назад
one thing important to realise is that dumbledore wouldn’t want to drop harry off at james 6th cousins 2nd uncles sons house even if they are kind people. Most of their family tree wouldn’t even know who harry is, and also due to all the muggle and wizard wars, their family just wouldn’t be that big when harry’s parents died.
@jonasfilmstudio
@jonasfilmstudio Год назад
10:09 THE WAY I GOT LITERAL GOOSEBUMPS when I realized where this is going!!! Ofc it makes so much sense. Only the one with the invisibility cloak was able to escape death 🤯🤯
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder 3 месяца назад
I like how both guesses for Lily’s parents are Pokémon characters
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 2 года назад
I think one question is are you saying it killed off all families including Marriages and in laws?
@christymayhew844
@christymayhew844 2 года назад
This could also also play into the theory of Harry being THE CURSED CHILD.
@Zapporah85
@Zapporah85 2 года назад
Honestly, I think this is one of the better theories you guys have ever come up with.
@peterparkerfanclub5684
@peterparkerfanclub5684 Год назад
Always a pleasure I love this channel
@sonjaimmonen6610
@sonjaimmonen6610 2 года назад
Many comments here point out the fact that Harry had to go be with Lily's family for the protection to work. But imagine the reaction of the Potter side of the family if their dead cousin's child was adopted outside of the magical world. Would they accept Dumbledore's plan? This explains why there aren't family members fighting for custody.
@vladimiramatejova1796
@vladimiramatejova1796 2 года назад
at some point in the books it is said many wizarding families wanted to raise him as their son. it is not mentioned if they were related but giving that the purebloods intermarried probably some of them were related.
@charitylady7389
@charitylady7389 2 года назад
First off, did it have to be a relative of Lily for the magic blood protection thingy to work? Second, Doubledore tells McGonagall in book one chapter one "The Boy Who Lived" that HP would be better off growing up away from the wizarding world - where he will be famous where, as McGonagall had said, "there won't be a child in our world that doesn't know his name!" Might leaving him with people who would help him grow into a decent human being (admittently, by showing him how not to be) and not having a super over inflated ego have been all part and parcel of "Dumbledore's Big Plan"??
@raulnatokapa
@raulnatokapa 2 года назад
Well they are speaking that death was aligned with the Potter family, not the Evans, although the sacrifice was from the Evans family side
@SumireSakura
@SumireSakura 2 года назад
I loved this so much! 💜
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge 2 года назад
I always thought that death left petunia alone as a way of tormenting Harry.
@iamagamer2349
@iamagamer2349 2 года назад
First, also I've been watching you channel for the last 10 years and I love your videos
@jacksonmcnuggets7488
@jacksonmcnuggets7488 2 года назад
Would love to see you guys review some of the Harry Potter games
@alejoserranobarbaran5223
@alejoserranobarbaran5223 2 года назад
Wow you guys! I always finish your videos with my mouth opened. Great job. By the way here is an idea, what if the deathly hallows are all made of thestral body parts and thats why they are related to death. We know the elder wand core is of thestral, they are invesible like the cape and what if the stone came from its kidney like a bezoar? I hope u like the idea. Best wishes from Argentina
@mikehenry1488
@mikehenry1488 2 года назад
I don't know about this one J. Normally I love your theories, but I think you're reaching here. Are we really going on the premise, that the Hallows were actually gifted to the Peverells by Death? And I also think its not unreasonable to think that the Potter family was thinned over the years or even nearly wiped out. Especially a family with a fortune to inherit. So possibly some family squabbles over the gold lessened the number of Potters. Perhaps they died in the First Wizarding War, or the Goblin Rebellions. Even regardless of the Potters, The Wizarding World is incredibly unpopulated from what we have seen. Where are all the Wizards J? How are there not 30,000 Weasleys? The Pottermore article did say that the Potters married neighboring wizards and muggles. So maybe some of the Potters joined the muggle world. And even if there were others, Lily only shared blood with Harry and Petunia. Plus as what we think we know of Dumbledore's big plan. Harry needed to be a caring, completely humble person upon entering the Wizarding World. Dumbledore had to make sure Harry did not grow up with a fame ego. I can 100% get behind that their was simply no other option.
@smittysmee
@smittysmee 2 года назад
Um I hate to break it to you J, but everyone dies. That's not a curse, it's a fact says it right there in coco.
@pharaohkai1
@pharaohkai1 2 года назад
Brilliant theory! 👏
@ashTame
@ashTame 2 года назад
This might just be your best theory yet!
@matthoward222
@matthoward222 2 года назад
Harry doesn't drop the invisibility cloak in the forest. He even puts it on again right when Neville kills Nagini and stays hidden under it watching the battle continue until all of Voldemort's followers are defeated, and then he reveals himself for the final showdown with Voldemort.
@davidcoplon3056
@davidcoplon3056 2 года назад
But... it had to be Lilly's side of the family to work. Lilly's blood... of corse none of the pure blood relations even if they are all related to him on james side would work. And if I remember correctly the potter's were excluded from the sacred on a technicality of there name beign tooundane to count. Since any muggle could be named potter.
@akshatawhaval8495
@akshatawhaval8495 2 года назад
As I saw the thumbnail I was soooooooo happy with this.... I don't know if you guys red my theory about death and the third pevrall brother but it was very similar ......... Thanks you guys🥺🥺🥺
@mephustowest1876
@mephustowest1876 2 года назад
This is my favorite theory so far.
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