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We're checking out Cities Skylines 2 (City Skyline 2) today, and this time I get sent an interesting looking intersection layout that I recreate in Cities Skylines 2 to see why they don't exist in real life!
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@zertoil
@zertoil 3 месяца назад
You would think that all the land being used is a waste but here in Arizona the middle "unused" parts of the leaf would be turned into a water retention basins. While the Phoenix Metro (aka "the Valley") is all desert, when monsoon season roles in, any rain that lasts longer than a few minutes will flood the freeways. So, any "unused" land is actually used to shove flood waters into. If it rains enough to flood the basins, then we are in trouble 🤣
@Ben_B_Artist
@Ben_B_Artist 3 месяца назад
This is it, space isn't wasted if you find a use for it!
@codysimonson6260
@codysimonson6260 3 месяца назад
Hopefully Arizona uses that water for something other than big water features around the expensive homes... right?
@PolarisC8
@PolarisC8 3 месяца назад
In the middle and north of Alberta, they like to put bogs, sloughs, or ponds in there, too. Good ferda berds.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 месяца назад
If the roads are elevated or at least separated with a barrier, it would also possible to have a park in the middle.
@smeetsnoud1
@smeetsnoud1 3 месяца назад
​@@HappyBeezerStudios Let's have a picnic and play some catch this weekend at the fucking highway junction
@charlesingram9471
@charlesingram9471 3 месяца назад
better bulldozer can delete the pillars and then you can double click on any point of a bridge to add a pillar if you like.
@Valay0r
@Valay0r 3 месяца назад
What would we do without mods :D
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 3 месяца назад
@@Valay0r play a diffrent game
@jaredkinneyjr
@jaredkinneyjr 3 месяца назад
On / Off ramps angle is too severe & abrupt is why
@jimwanshue2376
@jimwanshue2376 3 месяца назад
That's not a cloverleaf, mate, it's a uterus. You've birthed quite possibly the world's first uterinterchange.
@xheralt
@xheralt 3 месяца назад
To my mind, the default interchange he replaced is the uterus-looking one.
@Blackmark7410
@Blackmark7410 3 месяца назад
Reminds me of the Martians from the 1953 version of "The War of The worlds"
@Broockle
@Broockle 2 месяца назад
i dun c a ute, i totally see the cut fruit tho
@dadonix61
@dadonix61 2 месяца назад
it looks more like the cross section of a peanis
@averymarshall6060
@averymarshall6060 Месяц назад
I was thinking that ​@@dadonix61
@acockroft
@acockroft 3 месяца назад
Three things: 1. You don't always need to transition to four lanes before splitting into two two-lane arms. Three is usually sufficient, as the middle lane can become the left lane of one arm and the right lane of the other. Also, someone in the far right lane realising they need to head left only needs to make one lane change. Four lanes can be beneficial when combining two-lane roads, however, as merging introduces risk. 2. Where the leaf connects to the industrial area could have been done with a single two-lane bridge if you used smaller leaves inside the larger leaf. 3. A vehicle heading from the industrial area to the city via this junction will need to travel via all three leaves. It works, but a slip-road might be prudent.
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 3 месяца назад
My inner Biffa was screaming "LANE MATHEMATICS!!!!" I would have not increased to 4 lanes to make up for it, I'd cut it down to 1 lane for all those off shoots.
@RealCivilEngineerGaming
@RealCivilEngineerGaming 3 месяца назад
You underestimate the amount of traffic that will be visiting Engineeringdon! One lane is not enough!
@leonardochapman4736
@leonardochapman4736 3 месяца назад
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming one more lane will fix it!
@nilsdock
@nilsdock 3 месяца назад
@@leonardochapman4736 Famous last words again and again
@Timrox
@Timrox 3 месяца назад
This is the British-American fix!
@Coasterpostalt
@Coasterpostalt 3 месяца назад
@@leonardochapman4736 induced demand will never be a problem!
@TimmyTonk
@TimmyTonk 3 месяца назад
Those Clover Leaves are not useless, one extremely useful point of them is to allow Emergency Services to turn around onto the right carriageway for RTC's on motorways and diverting calls etc
@Yay295
@Yay295 3 месяца назад
Usually in real life there will be gravel emergency-only u-turn points along the highway.
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 3 месяца назад
@@Yay295 Exactly, there are far, far cheaper ways of having turnarounds for emergency services than installing enormous, largely unused clover leaves.
@epox_
@epox_ 3 месяца назад
Of course they are not useless. You can use them to change highways if you just drive them two times in a row.🤨 I dont understand what the problem is
@luftkadettarchives6387
@luftkadettarchives6387 3 месяца назад
​@@epox_ ...which is literally the exact same as taking the offshoot around the clover leaf
@louisvaught2495
@louisvaught2495 3 месяца назад
@@epox_ If you want to be as precise as possible, they're not useless - they're wasteful
@andybrinegar8861
@andybrinegar8861 3 месяца назад
The tall bridges over the clover exits could connect to the roundabout. As it stands, only one of the three ways can get to the industrial entrance. Technically they could loop around all cloverleafs, but a simple exit before the bridges could make things easier and smoother
@mammutMK2
@mammutMK2 3 месяца назад
Yes, it would need an exit ramp on the bridge and maybe even an entrance ramp if you need to continue into the city and the current ramps are for the third lane...the city out lane would need to circle a big. This would be a total chaos in the ideal solution that is a mess and works perfectly. If you have a highway triangle (0,120,240) and the areas in between would require connection to all directions this could be a solution. But ifa main road is crossing the exit and entrance would be probably at 0 and from that you have access to the other two arms and 0-120 and 240-0 would be connected. If the area between 120-240 would require connection I guess there would only be an exit in the inbound connection and entrance from outbound on int 120 and 240 arm, they would connect the main with that area and the in and out from the 0 arm would be over the main... untill they probably notice the traffic is blocking the main and convert the 120 and 240 to full exit and entrance ramps
@TheEpicDragonCat
@TheEpicDragonCat 3 месяца назад
Here at Dragon Transport LLC. We appreciate your support for U-turns. As most people know we always go the extra mile. Usually after missing the last exit.
@Draconightfury
@Draconightfury 3 месяца назад
Shouldn’t this be called the UNLUCKY clover leaf? Since 4 leaf clovers are the lucky ones? Architect move rce, architect move
@WintersMinion
@WintersMinion 3 месяца назад
Yeah I wouldn't call it a Clover Leaf at all it really doesn't look like one I would instead call it either a Trefoil or a Celtic Knot
@kaislate
@kaislate 3 месяца назад
Lungleaf.
@platinumraven118
@platinumraven118 3 месяца назад
YHeah, but could you imagine how jinxed it would be to call a potential design "Unlucky"?
@TheLedaba
@TheLedaba 3 месяца назад
@@WintersMinion Celtic knot is a bad ass name for a highway interchange. Love it
@xanderplayz3446
@xanderplayz3446 3 месяца назад
Ehh… Triple Clover Interchange
@blackoak4978
@blackoak4978 3 месяца назад
Because it takes up a ton of valuable land and the only addition is the ability to do a "U" turn. Get rid of the bulbs, slim it down and you have a typical 3 way junction
@dimruby
@dimruby 2 месяца назад
Seriously. U-Turns are not that popular.
@stoicbubble5755
@stoicbubble5755 2 месяца назад
was about to say that but you said it better than I would’ve
@kalleguld
@kalleguld 2 месяца назад
And if you needed U-turns, you just need 2 bulbs, not 3. And they don't need to be in conjunction with the junction
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 месяца назад
@@kalleguld just have drivers wait for the next freeway-minor interchange (where you can just leave the freeway, do your u-turn, then rejoin), rather than making freeway-freeway interchanges more complex.
@0oDaan12o0
@0oDaan12o0 2 месяца назад
It also forces all 3 lanes to go over and under another lane, while you could have 1 lane go over both, one over one and under the other and the other at level ground, which is easier to manage, safer and a lot cheaper to build (would use that last confirmation for the busiest road). But yes, making a U turn isn't usefull on a highway. It's just a easy to take an exit and pass over the highway before getting back on again. It's not as if everybody has to turn around all the time at any intersection. It's a waste of space.
@bergar9255
@bergar9255 3 месяца назад
As a well trained bar man (an student engineer) who serves a lot of guiness I would like to point out that the 3 leaf clover is not the lucky one and it is in fact the 4 leaf clover. You only draw a 4 leaf clover on a persons first guiness as that is the lucky one every other should just be served with a 3 leaf.
@Anvarynn
@Anvarynn 3 месяца назад
He did say the 4 leaf was the lucky one
@pbsixgun6
@pbsixgun6 3 месяца назад
4 leaf is pretty standard, 5 leaf and above is 'lucky'.
@InterludeArchitect1
@InterludeArchitect1 3 месяца назад
No logo on the foam
@SebastianD334
@SebastianD334 3 месяца назад
@@pbsixgun6 4 leaf are honestly quite rare, 3 leaf are super common though
@chorgieporginson6620
@chorgieporginson6620 3 месяца назад
@@SebastianD334 percentage wise maybe but if you look in a clover patch for about 5 mins you can find at least a couple
@johnm9263
@johnm9263 3 месяца назад
sometimes, you need to turn around on the highway using a special intersection, because of construction on another intersection that blocks a road that you would otherwise take so for americans needing to take a left hand turn, but the left hand turn leaf is obstructed or under construction, you may have to take a right, and then two lefts at the next one (assuming they are the same) which will then take you the same direction you originally wanted, but effectively uses a turnaround theres also the fact that the highway may be faster than driving in-town, especially to turn around, as some layouts may make it nearly impossible to do so safely, which is why you saw that garbage truck use the leaf to turn around, because it was faster and easier than using the city streets
@stolenromeo
@stolenromeo 3 месяца назад
You should definitely blur out the addresses on those letters. At least the info of the people sending you the mail, if not your own.
@GerrardGB
@GerrardGB 3 месяца назад
I was just about to say the same thing. His address is just a PO BOX thing, so not super important from a privacy issue, but the return addresses definitely are.
@citricdemon
@citricdemon 3 месяца назад
nah, i disagree.
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira 2 месяца назад
Are you aware that every home address is available on Google? Nobody cares that Jimmy lives in Chicago.
@citricdemon
@citricdemon 2 месяца назад
@@Sammysapphira some people are too young to remember phone books
@anxiousseal556
@anxiousseal556 Месяц назад
@@citricdemon ah yes the good ol' yellow page doxxing you along with your lineage statewide
@jAujAl1
@jAujAl1 3 месяца назад
Can we take a moment to appreciate the transition at 1:56? It was actually really smooth.
@KIA130123
@KIA130123 3 месяца назад
We absolutely can.
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 3 месяца назад
id love to see a historical version of city skylines... my idea is this: you start maybe in the middle ages and build a small village based on medieval technology... you get maybe a year to try to get your village to be how you want it to be then at the end of the year, time moves forward say, 50 or 100 years... the ai decides a bunch of events that happened in that time period.. maybe a plague, a fire, a war, lots of immigration, floods, prosperity, meteor strike, revolution etc etc... when you come back youre in a new age with new technology, new buildings, some of the original village has changed based on the ai random events.. you then have another year to make changes to your village that is now a town, try to make it prosperous then another 50-100 years goes by etc etc until you get to the modern era.. therefore you kinda get to design a city in a more realistic way...
@wiseSYW
@wiseSYW 3 месяца назад
anno 1800 have it.
@Real_OSHA_Unsafety_Engineer
@Real_OSHA_Unsafety_Engineer 3 месяца назад
You've just described Civ 6 districts and unit traffic because of single lane roads to each city. OR that's just Anno 1800,
@DawnClark-wj9ix
@DawnClark-wj9ix 3 месяца назад
Try Anno 1800?
@FrogLegsforDinner
@FrogLegsforDinner 3 месяца назад
Transport Fever 2 is gud, but theres no random events. You directly control city growth
@AnnaMorimoto
@AnnaMorimoto 3 месяца назад
Save for major catastrophic events like great fires, natural disasters, wars, etc. I could see the beauty of such a game. You may end up with a historic district built near a freshwater source, consisting of narrow alley ways, low buildings, and a religious building at the center. Factories will be built down river, on the shoreline, near a train station, or a highway exit. Great fun!
@Poptartsicles
@Poptartsicles 3 месяца назад
If you make one leaf in the clover leaf extra oblong you've got a really strong shape. My favorite part of the blueprint is that not only is "coming" spelt incorrectly with 2 m's, but the letter O in "comming" isn't a full circle at the top and kinda looks like a U.
@gwalla
@gwalla 3 месяца назад
Rather than a roundabout *and* a bridge, since that connection to the bulb acts as a service interchange (connecting a surface street to the freeway network), you could just take a cue from the Diverging Diamond and use a traffic light to control the crossover. Game-wise you could get away with just the roundabout but realistically that seems like a recipe for atrocious traffic accidents.
@Dansiman1
@Dansiman1 Месяц назад
Actually, the bridge makes the roundabout superfluous.
@c0d3warrior
@c0d3warrior 3 месяца назад
That one garbage truck showing why it's a good idea to have service ramps once in a while. Reminds me of an interchange we have around here. Trumpet shape with service ramps on two ends. The third end service ramp functionality is provided by a "regular" grade separated junction. Concerning the 6-way functionality: The only case around here where this occured, they simply built 3 cloverleaves. Staying with this design however, the additional ramps would make much more sense with a bridge into the void left by the indirect ramps and using a trumpet design. You might as well include direct ramps to the outer two-lane ramp at that point as well. Also coming from that industrial area, using a third lane at the end creates a continuous loop, making it way easier to get in the direction you want without constantly merging. It'd be a weirdly shaped roundabout.
@Arbol-kx5oc
@Arbol-kx5oc 3 месяца назад
These cloverleaf arms are some sort of a roundabout, which gives you access to every arm of the highway junction, but i have to admit this junction is rather inefficient and complicated to drive.
@TheClearwall
@TheClearwall 3 месяца назад
Actually if you think about it, what this design gives you is the ability to cross over a highway without using overpasses an making turns that will slow traffic. Imagine you're coming down the left hand highway going east (because you're an evil brit driving on the wrong side). But your house is on the right side of the highway. You could either come to a complete stop, turn right and go over to the other side and back. Or in the 3 leaf clover , you take the leaf and never slow down.
@Lord_zeel
@Lord_zeel 2 месяца назад
Yeah, I'm totally into the turning around thing. It's one of the neat bonus features of a round-about - it's a built in U-turn if you just keep going.
@Dansiman1
@Dansiman1 Месяц назад
​@@Lord_zeelI like getting on a roundabout for 450° to make a right 😊
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 3 месяца назад
Just regarding the title - because it requires three giant loops so that people can turn around and go back the way that they came. Almost nobody would ever take those sections of road in real life (the 3 oval lobes around the center, I mean).
@whizzerbrown1349
@whizzerbrown1349 Месяц назад
Okay yeah the ovals are stupid, but, unless you’re going right, the loops give you access to both turning around AND the left road way. Unfortunately if you’re planning on going left you’re going to have to take not one, but *two* needlessly long loops buuuuuut it kinda looks like fun to drive on 😅
@spell_me_right
@spell_me_right 3 месяца назад
I think his bio should be "I play every game in every way other than the one it was made to be". I can't even tell you how much you make my blood boil with your goofy actions. But you're also entertaining. Which is why I keep coming back😂
@rightsright
@rightsright 3 месяца назад
Instead of a high bridge and a low bridge under it, you could make the 2-way loop much closer to the junction and use two straight low bridges to run over the 1-way loop. Less expensive, more compact, and safer due to fewer turns.
@Caldera01
@Caldera01 3 месяца назад
How about using a roundabout?
@timgeurts
@timgeurts 2 месяца назад
lol I love this it always takes ages to make intersections but RU-vidrs mostly just cut over it or are able to do it fast bc they trained. Now I feel a bit less stupid playing the game myself
@georgeratcliffe7752
@georgeratcliffe7752 3 месяца назад
One small addition: Add slip lanes from the roundabout to the outer loop to allow left turns both into and out of the industrial area. At the moment, a left turn would require 3 stages!
@PilotSteak
@PilotSteak 2 месяца назад
14:21 - Follow the Arrows. The REAL Reason this doesn't exist IRL is cause the inner loops JUST Turn you around from going one direction to the other on the same road. In all three cases. Cut out the inner loops, and then shrink the interchange lanes back in.
@proletariennenaturiste
@proletariennenaturiste 3 месяца назад
19:17, those would be the most dangerous crosswalks. Cars would roll back onto you, semis would roll forward onto you.
@rudolphantler6309
@rudolphantler6309 3 месяца назад
You want a dastardly challenge? Build a city with all of its roads underground! Except the ones that need to directly connect to buildings, but only one road segment per building is allowed above ground! Each building needs its dedicated road leading underground! Use taxis, buses, trams, and perhaps consider subways! Even handle pedestrian traffic underground! Imagine underground roundabouts! Imagine multi-level underground beehive roads inside mountains! Constantly keeping an eye out for underground traffic jams! Perhaps test out a tornado? Underground clovers? This shall be called: Gopherland? Molenia? Burrowy? The Dig Republic?
@rudolphantler6309
@rudolphantler6309 3 месяца назад
And another different challenge: You can only build ANY building under bridges!!
@Dansiman1
@Dansiman1 Месяц назад
I think I'd like it more leaving the pedestrian traffic aboveground.
@rudolphantler6309
@rudolphantler6309 Месяц назад
@@Dansiman1 That would make more sense, by my idea is more like a meme.
@GRichardWrotten
@GRichardWrotten 3 месяца назад
That was so SO lovely! It’s a Celtic Knot! Nice work Alex! (You too RCE). [and Paddy].
@DanCorrin
@DanCorrin 3 месяца назад
Wouldn't putting the roundabout on the leaf after the industrial road passes under the arm be better? No triple stack.
@BillsYoutubeAccount
@BillsYoutubeAccount 3 месяца назад
Think he could leave the roundabout where it is and not need the triple stack, there's no need one lane needs to be on a particular side if it's going into a roundabout. Or delete the roundabout and keep the stack.
@TheNolinator
@TheNolinator 3 месяца назад
that‘s what I was thinking too
@Pystro
@Pystro 3 месяца назад
The roundabout is indeed kind of redundant as it is now. It could be used to connect the crossing ramps to more than that one distributor road. Or you could skip the triple-stacking; which would save you the expense of one bridge, at the cost of lowering the throughput by forcing traffic to give way to each other when crossing over. Or you could use the roundabout to connect extra ramp connections to the 3rd level of the stack. Or any combination of these. Or you could eliminate the roundabout. After all, anyone who comes up the distributor road and doesn't actually want to join the highway can use the 3 leaves of the clover interchange to turn around.
@gaysarahk
@gaysarahk 3 месяца назад
Day 113 of notifying people that the Discord server's Suggestions forum is a better place to suggest new games to Matt. (Just don't ping him!)
@Draconightfury
@Draconightfury 3 месяца назад
Or patreon voting for series
@Harrison-hg2vs
@Harrison-hg2vs 3 месяца назад
Ik
@harm285
@harm285 3 месяца назад
This is just as annoying
@supersimme813
@supersimme813 3 месяца назад
Get a life man
@alexneff
@alexneff 3 месяца назад
Just flag anyone requesting Minecraft for bullying Matt
@Rollermonkey1
@Rollermonkey1 3 месяца назад
The only purpose of the leafs seems to be U-turns. All of the other directional choices are possible without them, is much simpler, and absolutely does exist.
@jameslmathieson
@jameslmathieson 2 месяца назад
It looks pretty, but there's a better way with fewer bridges and less pavement overall: 1. Put the 2 lane corner sections inside the leaf instead of outside. Less payment, no bridge needed for the leaf feeder. 2. Leaf feeder can enter the roundabout from the right and exit from the left. You'll get traffic crosstalk like you do in a 4 leaf clover, limiting throughput, but if it's not high demand it would be worth the upfront and maintenance savings of not having a bridge.
@luce2988
@luce2988 3 месяца назад
I really loved your transitionts in the beginnging! They where great!😊
@ScarefaceSG1
@ScarefaceSG1 3 месяца назад
I have never seen more realistic roads
@mindiasferma7807
@mindiasferma7807 3 месяца назад
day 59 of telling mat that 6+9=15 and 6x9=54 and 15+54=69 which means that (6+9)+(6x9)=69
@dlog
@dlog 3 месяца назад
Thanks for teaching me the Nice™ maths. I did not know this, and I do not know if I will ever need this, but thanks.
@uzijn
@uzijn 3 месяца назад
RCE casually doxing return addresses at the start there
@srenravnbulayjessen153
@srenravnbulayjessen153 3 месяца назад
AND it looks like the cross-section of the strongest shapes main shaft.... Hence the efficiency 👍👍👍
@weeveferrelaine6973
@weeveferrelaine6973 3 месяца назад
Wouldn't you save a lot of road and space to put the roundabout directly into the turn around on the cloverleaf? Then you wouldn't need the crossed roads, or the extra junction before the overpass. Plus it being a roundabout has no negatives there, since the turn around gets very little traffic trying to go straight through it.
@Mystikan
@Mystikan Месяц назад
A T - junction can be made non-conflict with a single bridge. Have the side road cross the main road over the bridge. On the far side, the main road has an off-ramp that turns through 90 degrees onto the bridge. Then the on-ramp turns through 270 degrees onto the main road from the bridge, turning inside the 90 degree off-ramp. On the near side, both on-ramp and off ramps are straight-up 90 degree outside turns from/to the side road. This is the simplest and cheapest way to create a no-conflict T-junction.
@BryTee
@BryTee 2 месяца назад
21:35 No need for an (expensive, lots of maintenance) bridge to swap the roads over. Two ideas: a) Have the two "wrong side of the road" lanes, enter the roundabout at 120 degrees apart (as well as the normal road be the third junction of the roundabout. b) Make the two roads curve (like the shape of a lightblub) and to be the T arms of a T-junction, add a traffic light, to connect to the normal 2 lane road (at the top of the lightbulb shape).
@ironelfin1142
@ironelfin1142 2 месяца назад
It's fine in a game but to answer the question in the title, one word, money. That's a whole lot of real estate and excessive paving and support costs (signage, structural support, etc) when a well built roundabout or intersection would be 1/10th the cost.
@RayneAngelus
@RayneAngelus Месяц назад
The cloverleafs would be good for "rest stop" type commercial areas (fast food, gas, vehicle sundries), or even commercial/industrial shipping hubs. Things that you want to have maximum exposure to highway traffic, without necessarily having to dump out into your city proper to get to.
@proletariennenaturiste
@proletariennenaturiste 3 месяца назад
The tornado highway spiral is cool. Imagine being caught in a tornado on it though, you'd be dead as the entire thing collapsed.
@rsethc
@rsethc 3 месяца назад
Ah, the fabled "SCP logo interchange"
@noah4987
@noah4987 Месяц назад
Generally, you don't want to make a U-turn on a highway... unless you're in New Jersey! Highways not only have businesses whose driveways are accessible only from/onto the highways, but also residential streets. So in order to access these places, you must go past them, make a U-turn, and then get back on the highway headed in the opposite direction. It's absolute madness! And if you miss your turn, well then, you've got two more U-turns to get back to where you wanted to go (or slam on the brakes, throw on your hazards in the shoulder, and throw the car into reverse... never my choice, but I've seen it plenty of times).
@TerryTags
@TerryTags 3 месяца назад
Cheers, Alex! Great blueprint and design!
@3personal5me8
@3personal5me8 3 месяца назад
Can't believe how fast that pupper grew into a full size dog
@UpYerrViva
@UpYerrViva 3 месяца назад
You know Matt, I've been watching you for well over a year now. You help me fall asleep some nights, you help stop my boredom and you get me through a lot of bad days. Thank you, Matt. you're a real one without even knowing it ♥
@FalcoGer
@FalcoGer 2 месяца назад
people wanting to use the exit on the leaf would have to go through all three leaves if they come from the left (if the city is at the top as seen at 24:48). you might want to add a few more bypasses from that roundabout.
@erkinalp
@erkinalp 3 месяца назад
One of the sacred rules of road building is to minimise traffic disruption during every moment of construction. Minimal disruption is preferred to fastest possible construction times.
@Erekose2023
@Erekose2023 2 месяца назад
The means to double back on oneself can be a god-send when an accident or road works mean the exit at the previous junction is not usable. I'm also one of the weird ones who when I first saw the road plan of Spahgetti Junction wondered why everyone seemed to find it complicated.
@marks7502
@marks7502 2 месяца назад
What a cute dog! He should have his own channel. Maybe he could take you on walks, and maybe carry a stick.
@MrKahrum
@MrKahrum 2 месяца назад
[RealLife] put it as the center of a minor city, normal suburbia outside, except no "convinience" stores. have a convenience sector which is the internals of the clover. this sector is then designed for tourism.
@thetinkerist
@thetinkerist 13 дней назад
Mjah, flyovers are the most expensive and also the best. In The Netherland we have many “clover leaf” crossings and they just congest when it is very busy. Just fly over.
@Autotrope
@Autotrope 2 месяца назад
You dont need the outer loops and the design with them creates more crossing over of multiple lanes at merge points and uses more land which could end up more expensive than the overpasses you saved, if you look at the intersection of the West Gate freeway and Western Ring Road in Melbourne you have a major three way that gets everyone there without loops and with the ability to get in the correct lane a long time prior ALBEIT with more overpasses
@DannyWood7989
@DannyWood7989 3 месяца назад
Heads up, you missed some blurring.
@jeremyporterfield1611
@jeremyporterfield1611 3 месяца назад
It exists already. That's effectively a 3 level stack interchange, but using more Right-of-Way - ie more land purchase.
@ethandoingstuff1433
@ethandoingstuff1433 3 месяца назад
It’d be more realistic if you didnt soften the landscapes as much, so it looks like real road cut ins. You could add vegetation to mimic humans doing revegetation after earthworks
@Thebros-z1t
@Thebros-z1t 3 месяца назад
I need you to make a part of your city where it’s like millions of roundabouts to make sure your 100 bri”ish lad
@WintersMinion
@WintersMinion 3 месяца назад
He's done a city like that already
@Thebros-z1t
@Thebros-z1t 3 месяца назад
@@WintersMinion I know, but I said “a part of your city” not a separate city
@cracgor
@cracgor 3 месяца назад
You should visit Texas. All of the highways have service or frontage roads with businesses on them. It is not uncommon to drive down a highway toward a business, get onto the service road, essentially make a U turn and drive back a mile down the road you were just on to get to a business.
@charleslundy7545
@charleslundy7545 3 месяца назад
I think a lot of road designs Matt doesn't get because he is from the UK where they drive very little compared to the USA, and the land to cover is only about the size of one North Carolina. Where I'm from actually. We would prefer they stop building roads for all the tourists to move in anyways, go around and only come here for relaxation spending their money. But yea, Matt calls turning around useless all the time. I imagine he simply doesn't see such long stretches of road without exit or petrol as we do with his country being a little short compared to countries like the US or Texas 😅 my local next turn around if I forgot my wallet is about 20 miles (32km) until the next exit.
@TheRojo387
@TheRojo387 3 месяца назад
You're definitely an architect at heart.
@LuizAngioletti-kb4sc
@LuizAngioletti-kb4sc 3 месяца назад
Now I know why Matt doesn't like night cycles in games. He has a massive window behind his screen. There is no contrast in the world that will make his life easier with that setup.
@maddogfargo3153
@maddogfargo3153 2 месяца назад
It does exist IRL. It's called a Cloverleaf Exchange.
@DylpiqkleSTier
@DylpiqkleSTier 3 месяца назад
I actually think from a real life perspective the turnarounds make sense, as it allows for less bridges to be built along the highway to connect sid roads to both sides of the freeway and it creates a constantly flowing junction, saving money and time.
@surfcello
@surfcello 2 месяца назад
Coming from the industrial area via the roundabout, cars can only go “straight”. To go towards the solar farms, they would have to go round two clover leaves, wouldn’t they? So perhaps add another pair of ramps from the roundabout to the bypass that bridges the crossover?
@minastaros
@minastaros 3 месяца назад
21:00 No, you don't need that extra bridge: make the _entrance_ to the clover leaf first, then the exit. Then they are in the correct British order.
@WaechterDerNacht
@WaechterDerNacht 3 месяца назад
If you want to go from the industrial are to the city, you now have to drive 2.5 circles first. Come onto the highway through a clover leaf, drive the clover leaf towards the solar farms and the drive the clover leaf towards the city...
@petergamache5368
@petergamache5368 2 месяца назад
In the real world, decreasing radius turns are particularly dangerous for trucks and motorcycles - both of which have a limited amount of traction that can be spent on either turning OR braking. Constant radius turns and loops are safer since they are more predictable for drivers/riders.
@Elesario
@Elesario Месяц назад
Would suggest moving the roundabout into the cloverleaf to eliminate the triple stack flyovers. Removes some of the aesthetics, but seems to be a low flow road primarily for heavy goods bypass.
@matsv201
@matsv201 2 месяца назад
There is two main reason why that type of layout don´t exist. 1: It feed back in the crossing. This create unnecessary traffic. While that is also true for a 4 way cloverleaf. To make a direct access 4 way highway crossing, there need to be 8 bridge interconnect as well as 4 ground level interconnects, on top of the normal crossing. This make it so a 4 way highway crossing with direct access often need to be either really large, or be 4 levels. 2: its really large. Making a 3 way highway crossing with direct access you only need 2 crossovers and 2 side ramps. And well the main bridge. So making a 3 way direct access highway crossing is actually quite simple not that expensive. Of cause, making 2 of 3 way highway crossing would be cheaper and easier than making 1 of 4 way crossing. The main drawback of that solution is that it will have a capacity limitation between the two 3 ways hence that solution is typically not used either.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 2 месяца назад
You had a working 3-direction highway interchange and replace it with a far bigger and costlier one to add the option to turn around a tiny bit sooner. "Pointless" does not even begin to describe that. This is a really high-cost active danger to everybody. you now have a u-turn where there are more lanes merging into each other inhibiting the flowing traffic - and that on the outside of a turn (where you do not want to have any changes in lanes).
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 2 месяца назад
It would seem the most efficient use of space for the 6-way would be to turn left towards the interior of the u-turn loop, then roundabout and bridge over. Probably not the cheapest, but at least you don't have huge ovals of unused land.
@saurianwatcher4437
@saurianwatcher4437 2 месяца назад
For the upgrade to 6-way, I'd have left the outside portion on ground level, and used bridges to convert the feeder lanes to left-side driving. Gonna need bridges anyway, better to make them smaller.
@zdenekdolezal9646
@zdenekdolezal9646 3 месяца назад
You actually do not need those cloverleaves even to add the possibility to tarfic turning back on the highway. Just add lane between both roads before intersection and make 180 turn.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. Месяц назад
This is CS2, cars turn around for seemingly no reason all the time. I had to redesign whole junctures just because u-turning cars were blocking traffic.
@Ethanghosh5098
@Ethanghosh5098 3 месяца назад
better off with a trumpet in this scenario. Allows the through motorway to continue with no disruption and only has two bridges. It also fits quite snug in your location aswell!
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 3 месяца назад
So, the reason you've never seen a junction like that is because of its space usage _combined_ with the fact that it doesn't really do anything other, more efficient junctions can't. You could just use a 3-way flyover or trumpet instead.
@BrightsTrainsNTrucks2023
@BrightsTrainsNTrucks2023 2 месяца назад
I was not expecting to see a 3 leaf clover today
@Dan-Athema
@Dan-Athema Месяц назад
You could put the roundabouts inside the cloverleafs and have a bridge to the roundabout. It would solve the wrong side of the road issue and also no need for the other bridge to go over it.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 месяца назад
The trick with the poo container is to put a damn at the outlet to make power from poo. And the 3 way cloverleaf is probably rare because of it's size. And it requires the three roads to intersect at somewhat symmetrical angles. The T-interchange allows for for a break-off from a straight through road. Oh, and great that you have Move It there, basically an essential tool for smooth curves. I know dragging roads around isn't realistic, but in reality things would be planed before built, so all that smoothing would be done before a single trench is dug.
@Noki0100
@Noki0100 2 месяца назад
You can force roads you lay to be a bridge part even on the ground (or change them after the fact) then raise or lower them as needed.
@OmikronTitan
@OmikronTitan 3 месяца назад
*peers at thumbnail* Adding a place to crash on the highway because you missed your turn isn't the best idea. Forced weaving is just asking for trouble.
@ashsty
@ashsty 3 месяца назад
At the end I was shouting at the video. You should use the space inside the clover leafs for the turn offs/ons. Underground turn off that can be both single lanes.
@Bouboukenka
@Bouboukenka 2 месяца назад
As a Lori driver, clover interchanges are the bane of my existence
@SherrifOfNottingham
@SherrifOfNottingham 2 месяца назад
Because it does exist, it's just not as bloated and large when its implemented in real world situations. Versions of this idea literally surround the downtown area of Houston.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 Месяц назад
Scenario: You have a major population center off to the west and a shopping center at the northwest corner of the interchange. Using u-turn loops for that traffic kinda makes sense.
@darby2314
@darby2314 2 месяца назад
"IT kinda looks like a slice of chili or a slice of cucumber..." I just see a face screaming into the void of industry.
@uberwayz
@uberwayz 2 месяца назад
You could have slip roads to the centre of the leaves for industrial centres or farms.... That way the produce could be easily and efficiently transported in any direction
@gotenks157
@gotenks157 3 месяца назад
I feel like it's rare in real life that a highway ends while intersecting Into another. Also this layout makes it expensive if you ever decide in the future to have the north/South highway continue north.
@MATT.04
@MATT.04 7 дней назад
The thing you call "the bum thing" looks like spades, then you constructed clubs this time, so now we'll need hearts and diamonds as well to make them complete
@justjosh11
@justjosh11 3 месяца назад
Ah the ol' "cervix layout", a classic
@nekromenace
@nekromenace 3 месяца назад
How does nobody talk about those incredibly smooth transitions
@LordClunk
@LordClunk 3 месяца назад
3 of those roads are redundant unless you want to U turn. There is only 1 cloverleaf junction in the UK. The design has been deemed too dangerous.
@Map71Vette
@Map71Vette 3 месяца назад
I think the not turning around part might be somewhat of a regional thing. I tend to agree, but I know on some of my trips to Mexico they don't have left hand exits, but they do have exits that basically just go up and over and turn you around. So inside of exiting left off a highway via something like an overpass at each exit, you would drive down the highway a little further and turn around at that overpass, then make a right hand exit. Seems a bit odd at first, but kind of makes sense as well in some ways.
@NotKnafo
@NotKnafo Месяц назад
20:58 you could a clover hoop instead of a direct connection
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn 3 месяца назад
The issue of that side thing you added is that you can only get there from one of the 3 main roads. To get there from the other you need to use up to 3 different clover turnaround parts, that will cause a lot of congestion.
@jimmypockrus7725
@jimmypockrus7725 3 месяца назад
the three curves aren't needed, they only make U-turns considering you can go two directions from each way without the cloverleaf circles.
@frigginthing
@frigginthing 2 месяца назад
Slightly different layout of the on/off ramps but this is exactly what Spaghetti Junction in the UK is (in terms of the highways themselves)
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