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Why Employers Don't Want To Hire Older Job Seekers (And What You Can Do About It) 

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@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 9 часов назад
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@joepiekl
@joepiekl 11 часов назад
If you're in your early 20s, you don't get any responses because you don't have experience. In your 30s, you get nothing because they don't want to hire someone who might go on leave when they have a baby. In your 50s, they won't hire you because you're overqualified and they don't think you'll stay. And in your 60s, they won't hire you because you're going to retire soon and you might be off sick more often. When is it actually good?
@downtostandup
@downtostandup 11 часов назад
When it's family, friends, and who you know..
@chuckchan4127
@chuckchan4127 10 часов назад
That's the neat part, it's never a good time.
@Timothy-y7e
@Timothy-y7e 10 часов назад
40’s?
@margaretjeannemoore
@margaretjeannemoore 10 часов назад
Never
@FrankVZ-q7s
@FrankVZ-q7s 10 часов назад
When you agreed to work for peanuts...
@bunnysworld
@bunnysworld 8 часов назад
Older employees want their skills and experience compensated and know what they are talking about. They can't be pushed around as much. That's the main reason.
@jeffcauhape6880
@jeffcauhape6880 5 часов назад
It's harder to bullshit someone who has seen it all before.
@Baruch-Hashem
@Baruch-Hashem 2 часа назад
@@jeffcauhape6880 100% and employers want you to drink the Kool-Aid. When you know you are just a cog in a machine, its time to self employee.
@cuivre2004
@cuivre2004 25 минут назад
I don't agree that they demand more money. The salary is the salary. The hiring managers simply don't like people who aren't type to "step and fetch-it" without a second thought.
@Aledo_Bearcats
@Aledo_Bearcats 10 часов назад
I've been self-employed since 2005, when I was 35. My house is almost paid for... my car is paid for... but I don't look rich, I look poor. I have flexible work and just finished my Master's in data science. I did it not to land a new job but to open a new business online during my retirement years.... Many work to look rich, meaning, they spend every dime on loans on goods that make them appealing to others. I do the opposite. I saved, raised 4 kids, and look poor. I love it. I have degrees in economics and data science and no debt.
@FrankVZ-q7s
@FrankVZ-q7s 10 часов назад
Online-data-pc-apps-... everything is f...cking blown and baked air... aren't there any "real" jobs left ?
@iyos7709
@iyos7709 10 часов назад
You are truly rich. Rich don't have problem in money, relationship, and mind.
@AntiquityIsResurgent
@AntiquityIsResurgent 7 часов назад
"Self-employed" is another term for "unemployed but working in sales"
@jeffcauhape6880
@jeffcauhape6880 5 часов назад
Spot on! I think what you have done is going to be what more folks will have to do. It just becomes more obvious when you are older.
@hisdness1
@hisdness1 Час назад
Wow, talk about exalting yourself.
@Spoopball
@Spoopball 10 часов назад
In China, if you are over 35, you are almost unhireable. Employers want young adults who have no self esteem, and no knowledge of labor laws and abusive tactics. And because the unemployment rate over there is estimated to be over 50% they can be as picky as they want
@JoshLange3D
@JoshLange3D 9 часов назад
Wow
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
Me: China even has labor laws? Lol
@fedvvvv
@fedvvvv 6 часов назад
Well, that's Communism for you.
@Stefano-o5f
@Stefano-o5f 6 часов назад
​@@fedvvvvit sounds like Milton freedman free market paradise. If it was communism the employment had to be 100%. Because under communism a company couldn't refuse to hire someone willing to work.
@htwingnut
@htwingnut 10 часов назад
What sucks is that I have had two significant events in my life that has broke me mentally, emotionally, and financially. The death of my wife when my kids were just babies, and my son that became homebound after COVID. I'm now almost 50 years old and more or less starting over for the third time in my life. With my job gap it makes it hard to get a senior role that my qualifications should justify, but the job gap usually hurts me. I can't get into lower level roles because like mentioned in the video, I'm a "flight risk" or "overqualified". So what am I supposed to do? Thankfully I recently landed a job, not exactly ideal, but it's a job. I don't know how I'll ever retire now unless I can eventually land a $150k/year job soon and bank half my income.
@CrackerSmith
@CrackerSmith 10 часов назад
I am very sorry for your loss :( Hang in there brother, you're doing the right thing for your family.
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 9 часов назад
Likewise, sorry to hear of your loss. That must be unimaginably hard to go through.
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
Wow man. That’s genuinely awful, and I’m sorry to hear that. I hope things continue to improve for you. I see a lot of folks whining and complaining on this channel where it’s obvious it’s their own bad attitude… But you, you really do have an excuse. That’s so much to endure
@crosslink1493
@crosslink1493 7 часов назад
Tough to do. I started working full-time about 1980 so I've seen a few economic upheavals and had to 'morph' between different industries with my Enviro/health/safety skills. The tough part I found was all industry sectors have different terminology for the same EHS regulations, and all regulatory bodies have a lot of overlapping regulations that they organize and classify in different ways with even more differing terminology; think of it as saying the same phrase in different languages. I've had to adapt resume verbage and interview vocabulary to fit each industry as no industry (and hiring managers) wants to recognize the other industries similar skill sets (lazy management IMO). Thankfully I retired and no long have to put up with that mess anymore.
@keikofay9804
@keikofay9804 2 часа назад
Please accept my condolences.
@LenHere
@LenHere 11 часов назад
I'm 50, sales manager, and have made several job changes over the last 10 years. The thing that keeps me relevant and in demand is the strategic manner in which I write my resume, how I groom myself, and as important is keeping up with technology, pop culture and vernacular, so that I can demonstrate the wisdom of experience as well as current relevance in tech, et al. Because I meaningfully demonstrate these attributes, I have been able to demand higher than average wage and with my current position I got more than the salary the position listed in their posting,. If you come off as an "Old Head" you make it easy for recruiters to pass you up.
@joepiekl
@joepiekl 11 часов назад
Yeah, I remember seeing a conference presentation (for teachers) and the presenter asked something along the lines of "Do you have 10 years experience, or 1 year of experience 10 times?" The gist being that if you spend 10 years doing the same thing and never developing your skills, then you're not really as valuable as the 10 years would suggest.
@gerardsloan1593
@gerardsloan1593 10 часов назад
I had a job in a call centre one time, at the time it was the only work I could get. I remember trying to get to know my fellow colleagues and I was a few years older than them, I was the Kim catrall of the group lol.
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
I find nothing more cringeworthy than older folks desperately trying to stay hip with the kids. It comes off as trying too hard. As a 45-year-old guy myself, I try to strike a balance between aging gracefully and not trying to sound like I’m 25 years old. Hint: nobody is buying the act as much as you think they are
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 5 часов назад
It's probably easier in sales, because you are paid on commission. When you are a salaried / hourly worker, they can always find someone who is younger and cheaper who is good enough.
@LenHere
@LenHere 3 часа назад
​@@pensivepenguin3000Before you further expose that extra chromosome you're so desperately trying to conceal, let me ask you who said anything about being "Hip?" I'm a professional, which means I understand my product and my audience, and I focus on tending to the needs of my prospect. If you're narcissistically focused on yourself, you're probably a loser, because winners don't focus on themselves in sales. I am a closer. Results don't lie. I'll put my record up against anyone in sales, anywhere, in any industry.
@norrisheckwine7439
@norrisheckwine7439 9 часов назад
Employers bad mouth both older and younger employees as outdated or lazy. Then bad mouth midcareer employees for no longer wanting to return to a toxic office. This is more setting up the premise for importing foreign workers or exporting the jobs.
@Teacher_Tangents
@Teacher_Tangents 4 часа назад
Don't forget A.I.
@CB3168X
@CB3168X 10 часов назад
I’m 50 and recently received a federal job offer. It’s not the highest pay but the benefits are great, especially the pension after 5 years. There’s less of an age bias with federal jobs.
@TonyMoze
@TonyMoze 8 часов назад
True. Federal and super large fortune 100 to 500 Companies where apparently they get a kick back from hiring military veterans. I saw a lot of 40 to 50 year olds breaking into tech from the military 😮
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
45 here and had my first interview for a state job. The pay is actually comparable to what I’m making in the private sector, plus they actually still have pension plans! Yes please. I’ll take the slower pace and better work/life balance that somewhere without a profit motive offers
@jsteel_
@jsteel_ 7 часов назад
​@@pensivepenguin3000 don't be too quick to trash the "profit motive". Your job and rare pension only exists because for profit companies and individuals that work for those companies pay your salary via taxes. Be grateful.
@jsteel_
@jsteel_ 7 часов назад
There is something very wrong when the federal government is the largest employer in the United States.
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 7 часов назад
@ oh brother. Give it a rest. Everybody else knew what I meant. I wasn’t trashing capitalism. Don’t worry
@thequirkychristian
@thequirkychristian 10 часов назад
Older workers can’t be bossed around. I look back at how I allowed myself to be treated in my teens and early 20s and I’m dumbfounded that I allowed that to happen all because I didn’t want to get fired. Now that I’m older, I’m more assertive and don’t put up with a lot of crap. I think companies would rather hire younger people who don’t know any better and will allow themselves to be bossed around treated like garbage, thinking that’s how you get up the corporate ladder.
@elenarda-i2x
@elenarda-i2x 9 часов назад
So... you're the problem.
@thequirkychristian
@thequirkychristian 8 часов назад
@elenarda-i2x nope. I work hard. I take on challenges. I’ve done hundreds of hours of volunteer overtime without my boss having to ask. But I don’t live to work. My job is not and will never be my identity. I refuse to be a doormat to get promoted. I refuse to backstab and gossip about my colleagues to get on my boss’s good side. I refuse to allow myself to be talked down to (THANK GOD my team lead and supervisor are amazing leaders so I don’t have to worry about that in this job). As a young person, I used to go the extra mile all the time and it got me nowhere because I refused to be a gossip or be a backstabber in the office. I refused to kiss my boss’s butt. My coworker at the time actually got told that if she wants to be promoted she needs to kiss up more. If this is what you want to do to get ahead then have fun with it. For me, I collect my paycheck and save my money and spend my time traveling and enjoying life. I’m too old to worry about trying to climb some stupid corporate ladder.
@elenarda-i2x
@elenarda-i2x 8 часов назад
@@thequirkychristian Cope.
@thequirkychristian
@thequirkychristian 8 часов назад
@ I’m coping just fine. Lol
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
Amen! I’m 45 years old and have just started shifting my mindset in that direction. Once you realize that the worst somebody can do is fire you, and if you are at peace with that, there’s no reason to put up with a toxic environment or disrespectful treatment. So they fire you. Big deal. Take the severance, get the unemployment and find your next job, or maybe see it as an opportunity to go in a totally different direction, maybe start your own Business etc.
@LV-1969
@LV-1969 9 часов назад
A friend of mine wanted me to apply for a management position at his company. I got passed over because of my age. I was 49 at the time and the people I would be managing were in their late 20s-early 30s. I'm glad I got passed over because I found out the people I would have been managing are overly sensitive and hard to manage.
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 5 часов назад
What happened to me is the opposite, a bait and switch. I applied for a senior job that was commensurate with my experience, and they hired me, but there was already someone in that role, and they had me doing very junior level work because the young people they were hiring wouldn't/couldn't do it. They kept telling me "they had great plans for me, I just had to wait". I told them, I just wanted the job I applied for. I felt so manipulated and it wasted my time. They also told me that I would have to take a pay cut because they were having problems, but they knew all along what they were doing and it was always to bait and switch to get a senior person to do the junior grunt work. I left quickly, fortunately. If you find yourself in this situation, don't wait, jump ship.
@Tie509
@Tie509 3 часа назад
Any employer that is serious about promoting you will NOT use the carrot on the stick model. There will be no "trial period," no "promises," and no stipulations. They will just say you earned it, but don't make them regret the decision. Every time I was promised anything at all, the employer NEVER followed through. Every promotion I got was a pleasant surprise without the gaslighting.
@CrackerSmith
@CrackerSmith 10 часов назад
This is one of the best advice videos I've ever come across on yT over the years. Thank you!
@ALifeAfterLayoff
@ALifeAfterLayoff 9 часов назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ryanlangston439
@ryanlangston439 11 часов назад
Employers don’t want to hire anyone unless your in their clique or you accept peanuts as pay or your a yes man an bow down
@coldlyanalytical1351
@coldlyanalytical1351 11 часов назад
Rubbish.
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 10 часов назад
​@gk505 agreed. Most employers shudder hiring at market pay higher end. And most employers have too many expectations going into a job.
@Cam-u1v
@Cam-u1v 9 часов назад
You're not your
@ryanlangston439
@ryanlangston439 7 часов назад
@@coldlyanalytical1351 what’s rubbish?
@ryanlangston439
@ryanlangston439 7 часов назад
@@Cam-u1v an that’s why people get fed up with all the crap cause everyone seems they have correct everyone else like it’s life or death situation the technicalities is part of the problem
@dalehuitt
@dalehuitt 4 часа назад
I like your suggestions on a "defensive resume". Agism is a real thing that I have been combating for some time. I applied to several jobs at or a step above my current position. I'm in my late 50's and listed extensive experience and education with the dates for those. Had a really hard time getting the phone to ring. Received several, "thanks, but we decided on a different direction" emails. So, I re-worked my resume and removed all of the dates even for my current employment. No dates listed anywhere on the resume for jobs or education or military experience. I don't know if that was the solution, but within 24 hours I received a request for an interview followed by several other interest emails from other potential employers. There's no way to get around the future employer seeing my age during the interview. But, I got my foot in the door and was able to make a great presentation. Within 24 hours of the interviewed I received an offer above what my expectations were.
@sherriianiro747
@sherriianiro747 4 часа назад
That is an excellent idea! Thank You!
@xenobob2773
@xenobob2773 2 часа назад
Keep scoring, Bro! 👊
@millertime6
@millertime6 7 часов назад
My issue was always not having a path forward at all. It seemed like they only wanted me for a specific role and that’s it.
@TrishasVideos
@TrishasVideos 3 часа назад
I'll be watching a lot of these as my job was just "eliminated" yesterday and I am 60.
@ericinla65
@ericinla65 4 часа назад
I'M 60 and was told I would be getting another promotion and raise starting in 2025. They don't want me to leave. FYI - I was promoted last year as well. Also, a dozen much young employees without the skills were let go 6 months ago. Note: I work in I.T. and now A.I.
@oniondeluxe9942
@oniondeluxe9942 9 часов назад
I’m turning 56, and have been in the software industry since 1995. My problem, is that my career hasn’t really gotten air under its wings. I started the management path 3 years ago, which is kind of late. So, recruiters will think “wow, this guy has been working for 25+ years and hasn’t reached any further than barely a team manager. That’s suspicious”. If you are 50+, and have, say 10-15 years experience in upper management, you are considered as high game. But, if the only thing you have been doing the last decade is flipping JIRA tickets, you are low value.
@bobbycrosby9765
@bobbycrosby9765 Час назад
Plenty of companies value people who "just" want to be an individual contributor. In this case I would consider my age a boon because it filters out companies that don't.
@renofry
@renofry 11 часов назад
Pfft, I'm 38 and haven't had the phone ring for months. I guess Im just 12 years too early.
@Frissdas1207
@Frissdas1207 10 часов назад
Skill issue, sorry mate. Hope you get something soon.
@renofry
@renofry 10 часов назад
@@Frissdas1207 Thanks bro! Hoping I do get something soon but I also appreciate the nice feedback! 🙏
@alexhigginbotham8635
@alexhigginbotham8635 9 часов назад
Amazon just hired a friend of mine who is in his 50's. It's work from home customer service type job I think. I'm sure they are probably still hiring. Something is better than nothing.
@AntiquityIsResurgent
@AntiquityIsResurgent 7 часов назад
@@Frissdas1207 It's not a skill issue; it's a shitty job market. I've got all the skills one could have, and you still won't be hired in this market mid-30s. You'll have to accept lower to make it in this market.
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 5 часов назад
Over 35 it gets rough. They can find people who will work cheaper. It was like this 10 years ago, so I am sure it worse today.
@spoddie
@spoddie 11 часов назад
I'm 59. I worry about becoming unemployed and not being able to get any reasonable job. If I continue to work for the 5 years or so years, I'll be ok for retirement. Ok, not rich.
@kimjohnson8471
@kimjohnson8471 11 часов назад
When you're younger, you're passed over because you lack experience. Once you hit 50, now you're over qualified. So, my question is was there a Magical Moment when you're at the Goldielocs hour? These jobs are full of $#!T!😅
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
Those are broad generalizations. Unemployment is under 4% in the United States right now, so obviously the vast majority of folks are making it work
@brettsfav4
@brettsfav4 5 часов назад
@@pensivepenguin3000 A lot of people have stopped applying for jobs.
@samjones9600
@samjones9600 5 часов назад
The bureau of labor statistics is lying on the rate. Most people aren't making it work and the next financial crisis is the last financial crisis.
@joem.7621
@joem.7621 5 часов назад
At 50, I went out and got an accredited 3rd party engineering certification applicable to my job to pre-empt the old accusation that my skills are no longer up to date because I'm "old". I recommend doing this. As soon as anyone claims I'm obsolete, I can pull out my validated certificate and say here you go, my skills and knowledge in this field of work have been tested and verified as up to date by an accredited 3rd party certification body. I know for a fact this kept me off a few layoff lists once this became known. And if they do let me go, it will help the next employer feel more comfortable hiring me. From the legal perspective, it removes this justification for laying you off and this then presents more legal risk for a company considering doing this. Something to consider.
@adk520
@adk520 11 часов назад
heard this before, but my degree was in 1992, and without the date, it looks like I forgot to include it. I'm 54. Also I tried removing my military, 1997, but that's my longest employment and the only one I had supervisory experience
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
Legacy companies like banks, insurance companies or big brands like Target or McDs are often good places to investigate if you’re an older worker. I’m a software developer in my 40s, and I’ve found that startups tend to favor that younger go-getter who is learning a new JavaScript framework every five seconds, whereas these bigger organizations tend to use more tried-and-true tech stacks and Move at a more measured, steady pace. Another thing to consider our government jobs, whether that’s federal, state, county or city level. They also tend to move a little more slowly, have a good work/life balance, great retirement benefits and generally more progressive hiring practices that might minimize the risk of age discrimination. Not as sexy, I know, but personally, I’m more interested in stability and predictability as I enter my older years
@xenobob2773
@xenobob2773 2 часа назад
Especially if lack of predictability doesn't even pay off!
@snowwhitecupcakes272
@snowwhitecupcakes272 10 часов назад
The market is awful. Hubby made $127k in 2020 then covid layoffs. A year of no employment and then a job at $60-$70 then another corporate closure. Now he is starting a job earning $35k. Once you hit 50, no one wants you. He has actually never been paid so low in his life.
@elenarda-i2x
@elenarda-i2x 9 часов назад
Lol
@Dweeble233
@Dweeble233 9 часов назад
So when r u out?
@reecediaz1700
@reecediaz1700 9 часов назад
@@elenarda-i2x lol?
@fromvillagetojet9582
@fromvillagetojet9582 9 часов назад
​@@elenarda-i2xPound sand. You're clearly a tRump voter with your lack of empathy.
@Cateutopia
@Cateutopia 9 часов назад
Nothing in life is secure. That's the great so-called USA home of the brave, land of the free.
@JoshLange3D
@JoshLange3D 8 часов назад
Thanks for making this. It's hard to plan maybe years ahead sometimes, but thinking of careers in ten year increments, with different values and strategies for each, is very helpful.
@tatedavis2016
@tatedavis2016 5 часов назад
I’m 26 and have been in my job for more than four years. The market is terrible right now, and I plan on staying where I’m at for now. My role has definitely evolved, and I’m learning new things as well as receiving raises annually. Though, a role like mine is the exception over the rule.
@paulhornbogen980
@paulhornbogen980 2 часа назад
B. Again you speak the truth. Update your skills that employers want. Personal brand yourself. Network with key people. It total mindset. How bad do you want it. Pure action. Keep up the good work.
@LV-1969
@LV-1969 9 часов назад
I'm in my mid 50s with no debts and no kids at home. I can take a pay cut and work longer hours with ease. The funny part: all those younger people will be my age at some point and I hope they get treated the way I do.
@jimkoney4200
@jimkoney4200 11 часов назад
No play for Mr. Gray. I was 60 years old when I won my Department award of over 200 employees for having the best production and quality.
@FrankVZ-q7s
@FrankVZ-q7s 10 часов назад
Your company won probably some kind of award about "keeping oldies at work"...
@jimkoney4200
@jimkoney4200 9 часов назад
@ That’s a good point. I worked for Citi Mortgage during the Mortgage crisis.
@LearningandTechnology
@LearningandTechnology 7 часов назад
A challenge for older workers (I’m one of them) is that they often don’t “advertise” their expertise and demonstrate their currency. They need to self-promote outside of their current role and build reputation through activities that showcase their combined experience and skills.
@TonyPadgett
@TonyPadgett 7 часов назад
I faced job loss in my early 50s, and initially, it felt like my career was over. After about six months, I secured a new role, although it required relocation and a step down. From there, I was able to progress steadily. In my experience, companies often value seasoned professionals for senior, strategic positions. They recognize the need for wisdom and experience that comes with time, rather than relying solely on generalists who can be more easily replaced by younger employees. Persistence and adaptability were key in my journey forward.
@margaretjeannemoore
@margaretjeannemoore 8 часов назад
I just turned 48 and have been looking for a lateral change for two years. I’m a lot of peoples second choice or that is what I’ve been told. It’s hard not to suspect discrimination when you’re getting interviews but getting no where. I’ve been in my current job for 10 years and I’d love to move from the city I live in to a better area.
@callmeishmaelk767
@callmeishmaelk767 Час назад
Best thing you can do is back up 30 years, pay off your house, save a shitload of money, live small and then you don't have to deal with this crap. 😂
@TheSnerggly
@TheSnerggly 5 часов назад
Both my husband and my big sister are well into their 60s and are both still employed with the Federal Government. Older tech workers like me are the ones getting discriminated against, especially women. I see men 55+ and 62+ getting jobs, but several of my female friends and I are STILL out of work. Yes, I take classes to level up my skills, and yes, I network. I am actually moving towards a career change to an entirely different industry.
@mandisaw
@mandisaw 5 часов назад
Highly recommend checking out public sector tech jobs, at Fed, State, or local level (incl City & County). Tends to be a skills & experience-based hiring process, and every public entity has a worker shortage. Benefits tend to be good, pay will usually be on the low- to mid-range of private, and the PTO and work-life balance are solid. Only issue is location - State tech jobs usually are in the capital city, and Federal tech jobs tend to be in Fed hubs (DC-MD-VA corridor, NYC, Denver, etc). No-remote on-paper, but hybrid is becoming more prevalent. Also places with strong municipal unions tend to be better, with more political support. I was out 5yrs after the 08 recession, and right at the point where I was ready to pretend to be a dude on my resume, I finally landed a civil service job. It's nice to work in tech and be respected.
@chrisg5433
@chrisg5433 10 часов назад
52 here and got a great remote software developer job a few months ago, but agree biases do exist. I can only imagine how many times my cv has been discarded because of my age before I've even been interviewed. Even though here it is completely illegal to discriminate based on age.
@highping1786
@highping1786 11 часов назад
AI does make the hiring process much worse. I was working at a company that started using it and the quality of resumes it let through dropped immediately. One of the things I noticed was that it always promoted resumes with “California” regardless of anything else. I have a pretty good guess where the developers were from.
@lilbatz
@lilbatz 8 часов назад
I found at 56 you gotta sell yourself like the rent is due tomorrow. I was hired because at 56, I knew how to smooth over the ruffled feathers of our older clients. That made sales and made the higher up happy.
@DrunkenUFOPilot
@DrunkenUFOPilot 5 часов назад
That's great for people with sales skills, but some of us are complete engineering, science or art geeks who couldn't sell a bowl of warm beef with gravy to a dog.
@lilbatz
@lilbatz 4 часа назад
@ I learned my sales skills as a chemistry major during poster sessions. I hustled and networked more doing while bench chemistry than any other job I had. It was a bigger network/hustle/sell sell sell than my fine art career ever was. (Medium was glass). I had to learn the “sales” angle as that is not my base personality at all. Motivational Steve Jobs I am not lol. I now work with durable medical equipment. I still slump glass as a hobby.
@thebrinksf69
@thebrinksf69 10 часов назад
I did all that to my resume and no bites. And I’ve been applying for 2 yrs while I have a job. I’ve decided to add AI skills to get ahead of that industry. I haven’t been able to find alternate streams of income.
@jakoblindelof92
@jakoblindelof92 4 часа назад
This surprises me, the experience I have from worklife is that CEO (who usualy are in their 50s/60s) love to hire people their own age, they can talk old memories about athletes I have never heard of from 1989, the CEOs feel like they can trust people more from their own generation etc. So this age discrimination thing surprises me tbh.
@CreativepreneurJourney
@CreativepreneurJourney 2 часа назад
These are great ideas to help older people.
@alexhigginbotham8635
@alexhigginbotham8635 9 часов назад
For older workers some of it I'm sure is attitude. I'm an older worker and we hired and few younger guys about a year ago. Honestly we've had a great time. They brought fresh knowledge and ideas and I've been able to share my experience and ideas with them also. It's been a wonderful collaboration. I wish it could be like this in more places.
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 7 часов назад
Attitude is 99% of the problem for people in our age group. Just look at some of these comments, or the general way that older people carry themselves. They’re always grumbling about how the kids don’t know anything, they’re lazy, they’re entitled blah blah blah blah. They moan and groan about “woke” culture, political correctness, how the world is going to hell in a handbasket. Honestly, who the hell would want somebody like that working for them? Sounds miserable
@NormalPerson229
@NormalPerson229 7 часов назад
​@@pensivepenguin3000 The complaints about woke (communism 2.0) culture are accurate. Quota hiring has become overt, and a top-down, creeping totalitarian culture of feminized "niceness" (conformity) has made many company environments increasingly miserable for anyone with any independent-mindedness or alternative world views. All of the macro metrics, gamed as they are, show shocking declines when examined.
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 7 часов назад
@ …and right on cue, there is one of them. You couldn’t have time that more perfectly lol. Thanks for exemplifying exactly what I was talking about. You hit all the classic notes, even rambling about “feminism.” if only you had worked in something about “postmodernism,” I could have completed my old angry guy bingo card 😂
@solarisgalrocks
@solarisgalrocks 7 часов назад
I’m lucky cause although I’m 50, my boss is in his late 70s! We are trained in DevOps, cybersecurity and many other modernized technologies to keep up with the market.
@charlesreed5839
@charlesreed5839 3 часа назад
"Leveraging my targeted networking to get more visible in my career verticals...." yeah. That's the ticket. What does that actually mean?
@Drganguli
@Drganguli 4 часа назад
Health care is the main problem once older workers in the us are let go. Wonder is some of the age discrimination is due to health case costs on older workers.
@pauls9011
@pauls9011 4 часа назад
Yes
@lilliearizona
@lilliearizona 4 часа назад
I'm now looking at getting out of truck driving and doing something else. I'm starting to realize now what a nightmare transitioning to a dispatcher position or something else is going to be for me and I'm scared. Being a 50 plus year old
@Sight-Beyond-Sight
@Sight-Beyond-Sight 7 часов назад
I am 44. I was at my last job way too long (13 years) and my skills were blunted due to their outdated way of doing things. My newer position is lesser than previous, but pays about the same with 1/3rd the responsibility. I could tool up again, but my passive income streams are letting me sit back and be lazy. I would be amazed if I couldn't retire by 50.
@dihett
@dihett 3 часа назад
I've had more interest in my resume post 50 than I did before 50 (institutional finance.) Looking now at 60. Hoping it continues to hold up. And I think your opening line is fueling stereotypes.
@melissadixon3152
@melissadixon3152 9 часов назад
Good video. I noticed too that lately some applications are asking school, college graduation dates and the applicant cannot leave it blank before proceeding forward in the application 🤔 Maybe, I missed it, have you done a video on becoming a independent contractor? I know basically what you mean, but any additional information that might be helpful. Thank you!
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 4 часа назад
Not sure where you are located, but that is illegal in the USA
@Alex-u2y
@Alex-u2y 3 часа назад
I am a freelancer with around 10 clients at the moment. None of my clients know my age.
@chefjosesoto
@chefjosesoto 2 часа назад
I just turned 50 in September and it took me 4 months to get a job everyone told me No
@Davejust451
@Davejust451 3 часа назад
I graduated high school in 1984, I was five years old. haha
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 5 часов назад
I feel, like many things, this all started with the Boomers. When my dad was coming up there was a strict hierarchy with lots of old timers who retired at 62 (or whatever the age was). My dad said work was work, but they were decent and looked at humans as humans, even if you still had to deal difficult personalities, and you could have a career moving up within one company. He said it all changed when the Boomers arrived, they hated older people, only looked at money, fired senior people so they could exploit young people, etc etc. Then when the Boomers aged, they refused to retire but also refused to stay up with technology, reinforcing the out of touch old person stereotype. It will be Gen Xers that get let go, before the Boomers are, unfortunately.
@gerardsloan1593
@gerardsloan1593 10 часов назад
In the UK, the minimum wage is set to increase. There are also different age bands that determine how much you get paid per hour. Where I work, we use agency staff during key processing periods and a lot of them are fifty plus. I'm 36 and just before turning 30 I went to a recruitment day with a young vibrant and popular graduate recruiter where I was told the average age of the workforce was (younger than my age at the time). I knew I wasn't going to get a job there lol. If you are older there are jobs that can suit you i.e. cleaning, working in a factory, call centre (wouldn't recommend), certain customer service roles. It is what it is. Opinions and experiences are my own. Have a good day reader.
@thunter8718
@thunter8718 8 часов назад
I just turned 50. I am looking for a new job. Applied to several got an invite for one of them but someone with so called more public sector experience got it. I just want to make more money and a better pension plan.
@sconnyjoe5262
@sconnyjoe5262 5 часов назад
Thank you. I really appreciate your videos.
@jimfogz
@jimfogz 2 часа назад
I am in my 40s. I had to gut my life savings and 401k to survive. I am working two full time jobs and still can't keep up with bills. - I check a lot of the boxes you are talking about: 18+ years in an overnight job, unable to move around in the company.
@TonyTheAntonio
@TonyTheAntonio Час назад
I'm a 52 yr old senior software engineer with 20+ years of experience. When I was at the age of 48, I already saw that they used me to interview, lead, and mentor the fresh ones. They were my replacement. Now, A.I. replaces the senior devs :-(. Our knowledge, techniques, and expertise are no longer valid, sadly. Thanks you for the video.
@DerpMasterSupreme
@DerpMasterSupreme 11 часов назад
First here, first laid off.
@earthsteward9
@earthsteward9 7 часов назад
Would taking classes on an ongoing basis help to show your skills are up to date?
@pamelamays4186
@pamelamays4186 5 часов назад
I had a hard time job hunting once I turned 60. Although technically, you don't have to reveal your age on an application, but, some jobs require you to provide your college transcripts. On mine, my highschool graduation year is stated. Also, if an ID is required, your birthday is on it.
@michaelcurtis106
@michaelcurtis106 5 часов назад
Basically, what you're saying is that employers are looking for ambition in their employees and if there's no ambition, they will not be hired or promoted. The problem is that not everyone WANTS to "move up". Some people are perfectly content where they are but somehow, that's looked at as a negative. That mindset is not right but unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it. Employers currently have all of the leverage and until that changes, nothing meaningful will change in the job market. Yeah, there's some things you can change in the resume and interview strategy but it doesn't change the fact that you still have less than a 1% chance of getting any job unless you know the right person.
@MrTycobb25
@MrTycobb25 8 часов назад
Company's hiring processes are BROKEN, and they're leaving all kinds of talent on the table with ideas like these.
@Fusioncam
@Fusioncam 9 часов назад
I'm 57, unemployed 9 months. Gave up IT tech support type career because I couldn't stand it any more. I've already removed the oldest jobs from my resume, removed the dates to avoid ageism...still nothing. Getting no reply or "not enough experience" to even minimum wage jobs. But isn't removing dates from my resume also a red flag to recruiters, that I did it purposely?
@kenchu5900
@kenchu5900 5 часов назад
I don't think it has anything to do with your resume. It's the job market that sucks. Tech layoffs are still happening going into 2025 (since 2023).
@pensivepenguin3000
@pensivepenguin3000 8 часов назад
I’m 45 years old, legally blind and I’ve been able to maintain steady employment for the last couple decades, but I worry about the ability to continue doing so, every day. I’m a software developer, and obviously I’ve been able to leverage the accessibility technology available to me to do my job at a high-level and compete with people with normal vision, But trying to sell interviewers on that idea, especially now that I am both disabled and an older employee, seems increasingly daunting. Bias is real. I often think, how the hell am I gonna get through another 20 years until I can hopefully retire?
@Kokopilau77
@Kokopilau77 3 часа назад
I'm 47 and getting close to the big five-oh mark. It's nerve-wracking to realize i could be affected by that. Yet I know I can't stay in my career - education - much longer.
@JosephSullivan1979
@JosephSullivan1979 2 часа назад
The older workers are the only competent workers who accomplish tasks. Looks like the corporations will get what's coming to them. 🤣
@zeekay9941
@zeekay9941 5 часов назад
Network and express you’re looking for career opportunities as you do. Hand out business cards and do as much as you can to get your name in employer’s hands. Who knows you becomes more important in your later years than your early ones and at 50, you’ll want to have a wide net of people who can connect you to opportunities you will not have if you were cold applying on your own. Long gone are the days where you can just walk in to a place and get hired. Most of my jobs I got because I was internal, I was recommended by a friend internally, or by an agency I have a good rapport with.
@abkeener81
@abkeener81 4 часа назад
I personally found it started getting harder to land interviews after I turned 40. I’ll turn 43 in December.
@Troy_Built
@Troy_Built Час назад
We have had to hire a few older workers even though they are slower and have trouble with the computers. They actually show up and look professional which has been a major problem with the younger hires.
@Baruch-Hashem
@Baruch-Hashem 2 часа назад
Age is a problem for so many, you finances may say you need to work until age 65 or 75, but the market may not be hiring. You can find work, but perhaps you are better off doing your own thing even if it pays less.
@PaulH581
@PaulH581 10 часов назад
The average age of an incoming S&P 1500 CEO in 2023 was 56 years old. It seems a little hypocritical to then say that I’m too old for a much lower position at the age of 50. Whatever, I don’t care anymore. I’ll try to build my freelance career if these companies don’t want me.
@jjdinanno4147
@jjdinanno4147 41 минуту назад
The strange thing is that there aren’t enough qualified professionals at any level. Discrimination should be the last thing employers should be thinking of if they want their bottom line to be consistent.
@simonebernacchia5724
@simonebernacchia5724 6 часов назад
Even if technically impossible i STILL need the "how to resuscitate a messed up dead and decomposed career" webinar
@pauls9011
@pauls9011 4 часа назад
Also, employers dont want employees tapping in ro rhe company health plan
@hidusb
@hidusb Час назад
I've seen nepotism and quota promotions block career paths. Internal moves have helped expand my skill set. Motivation to learn is still here. Zero interest in playing a fixed game.
@jb44448
@jb44448 14 минут назад
Experience costs money. Companies don't want to pay it. Same reason it's so difficult to move up.
@goldendogs5398
@goldendogs5398 10 часов назад
Age often brings valuable experience. The key is finding a person that is a team player and is coachable. If you are older and still coachable, then you will do fine. Act like the rest of the world has to change for you, then you are done.
@incredibleshrinkingfungus1731
@incredibleshrinkingfungus1731 8 часов назад
I look primarily for retirees and those with a long work history. Beneficial for both because I USUALLY get a good worker happy to have a decent paying gig on the side, not too many hours nmt 15 hours per week, and no Gen X or Z drama to deal with. But I have high turnover because of health issues so I'm fortunate to get a year before they have to resign and I have to start looking again. Only three employees in those roles so I'm teeny tiny.
@oz6123
@oz6123 8 часов назад
I work for a global F500 company with its HQ in Europe, while I'm in N.Am. It didn't stop me from applying internally last year for a completely different department/role that was also a promotion to a Sr Manager's position after turning 56. Besides a tidal wave of things going against me: age, proximity to management (all in Europe), no connections as none knew or heard of me, a 6-hr time zone difference, not to mention that they could have selected any number of local EU external/internals and far younger too...I still won them over. Never did I think Ageism would be a factor. I just focused on the one thing that mattered. To prove that I was the best candidate able to resolve the problems this job was created for.
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 5 часов назад
Europeans tend to stay at the same company for life, so they are working from a different playbook that isn't the same for American companies
@manwiththeredface7821
@manwiththeredface7821 7 часов назад
Whatever you do, do NOT get stuck in an entry level physical job for all your life (retail etc.). Past a certain age you just can't compete with the younger generation in physical tasks and you will wonder why no one wants to hire you or give you enough hours. You should either aim for getting promoted where you work (freeing yourself from certain tasks) or move to a more cerebral profession.
@xenobob2773
@xenobob2773 Час назад
Not everyone got the cerebrals to move to a cerebral position Bro 🙁
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 10 часов назад
"Networking" is only useful if the person is power is your buddy. Otherwise too many posers in the "network" who pretend like they are helping when they are actually useless.
@gauloise6442
@gauloise6442 4 часа назад
Also, I've found that when I leave a job those contacts are dead, no one wants to help you advance you in your career, when they aren't in theirs. Even if they are, they don't want to see you succeed.
@asadb1990
@asadb1990 4 часа назад
@gauloise6442 so far of all my past jobs i have maybe 1 person actually reach out thinking i quit for another job. When i told her the truth about getting laid off out of the blue and how unprofessional they were, she left within months.
@scottblackburn2969
@scottblackburn2969 6 часов назад
Only way to protect yourself is you Need to make presentations and get yourself out there. Just like the owner of the channel you get to know the person, rather than find out what others think.
@gammalgris2497
@gammalgris2497 Час назад
The organizations that I worked for are slowing me down with bureaucracy. They don't use their human resources effectively. Separation of work and responsibilities is often leading to communication fubars. They lag behind technology. How is that my problem when they don't get their organizations working better? I'm just navigating through this maze that is called professional work life and seeking a decent pay for being annoyed with avoidable issues and cleaning up the mess they produce.
@alexschievink
@alexschievink 9 часов назад
Simple: look for clients/employers that want/need experienced and seasoned workers.
@magicimaginations
@magicimaginations 5 часов назад
What ruined my job history was job hopping now i've got pages upon pages of rubbish jobs on the resume, and this is because my government EXPECTS me to take ANY JOB.
@marcelotoniolo4434
@marcelotoniolo4434 Час назад
50s ? I have many colleagues who are in their 40s who are struggling to find work or the ones who are employed finding hard to move up in their careers.
@chrgeorgeson
@chrgeorgeson 10 часов назад
Man... this channel is fucking depressing most of the time. I think I must be a masochist cause I keep watching this doom shit. I get that he's right but the world is depressing. Time to go watch some puppy videos.
@Timothy-y7e
@Timothy-y7e 10 часов назад
Maybe watch past about 6:00 and listen to the advice portion. Thats the point of the video. He’s telling you how to help yourself.
@colayco
@colayco 8 часов назад
This channel is entertaining if you have four million dollars or more to your name and 3 sources of income.
@jaaguitar
@jaaguitar 7 часов назад
I agree. You do feel depressed when you're stuck in the situation he describes. With potentially 6 months of work to change anything.
@chrgeorgeson
@chrgeorgeson 4 часа назад
@@Timothy-y7e After 6:00, the situation doesn’t feel any less discouraging. I even bought his resume training course, but it hasn’t helped much-not because the advice isn’t solid; it actually is. It’s just that this job market is tough. Getting past screeners is nearly impossible unless you know someone within the company or are working with recruiters. I’ve already reached out to about 30 former colleagues across different companies, so I have a decent network, but the market right now is awful, especially around here. Now, I'm mostly just waiting for recruiters to contact me, while applying on LinkedIn, where the odds of actually landing a job feel almost non-existent. Being in IT only makes it harder since the industry is in such a rough spot. So, as good as the advice may be, it’s not particularly helpful in a market that’s so upside-down.
@xenobob2773
@xenobob2773 2 часа назад
Age Discrimination! You should be watching Doggy videos!
@cmdrgogen3203
@cmdrgogen3203 7 часов назад
At 53yo all I see is young people coming, expecting all kind of sh*t fast for big money, raging about everything and soon walking out saying they are "not respected". My generation is always on time, never rage, we do our job and solve problems calmly, without posting a single bad letter on socials about the place we work in. I rejected the latest promotion offer because my team would be mostly young people I just described. Don't need that kind of stress in my life.
@jeffcauhape6880
@jeffcauhape6880 4 часа назад
We are going to have to learn to become more entrepreneurial and depend less on being employed by someone else.
@kubadevarsovia2839
@kubadevarsovia2839 10 часов назад
It's always something
@InvestingMindset1
@InvestingMindset1 5 часов назад
LOL, I give up! thats it, I realized I am losing in this world not because of my effort but due to human ignorance.
@4Frmcfff
@4Frmcfff 9 часов назад
They say by 2030 most jobs will be AI which means nobody will have a job at all soon
@michaelm8460
@michaelm8460 7 часов назад
I see this really an issue of supply and demand, as well as the specificity of the position. I was a so-called full stack developer when our contract ended. There are still full stack positions, but now they also want 10yrs experience with AL ML and data sicence. There are not enough MS degrees to go around, and won't be for the next decade,but the basic code has its have roots in gaming, and is no secret. This means the age of the supply of maintaince level developers will have to , at least for now, shew older , will rely more on certification for the AI stuff than advance degrees. In the end, it's not the age, but what you an produce for a profit
@kennethsouthard6042
@kennethsouthard6042 8 часов назад
A lot of this depends on where you are working and how you are applying. For example, if you think that you are going to apply off the street into a tech company. That's probably not going to happen as the people there see you as someone who doesn't understand or even use their type of product. In your case, it's not so much the elephant in the room, but the dinosaur who they will never let get close to the room.
@demetriadavisboyd7060
@demetriadavisboyd7060 10 часов назад
I want to change jobs in my late 50's. I dont know what I need to do accept to start over.
@Dweeble233
@Dweeble233 9 часов назад
Getting rear ended.
@jprevatt
@jprevatt 5 часов назад
I'll be 49 in about 6 weeks. Do I have any hope whatsoever!?
@sonandpets1215
@sonandpets1215 8 часов назад
As far as I know IT IS ILLEGAL to base the hiring on age. Having said that, if a person over 50 is looking for a job, they will find it and be hired if competent. Just keep your skills up to date and remember that an employee's average time working for a company is 3 years. I completely and absolutely disagree with you here, poster.
@josephzilafro2720
@josephzilafro2720 Час назад
But don't employers only expect employees to stay around 5 years or less and then move on?
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