Why Everyone is Switching to YouTube 

I really don't know why they don't just call it "RU-vid Live"

I think its basically them having exclusivity for live gaming content while streamers are still allowed to do basic non-gaming related streams on twitch... or something idk I could be wrong. Maybe they have to do ALL their streams on YT. In which case, yeah. YTLive would make more sense

I agree with this and I think they should also add like a discovery tab for the live streams because how are you supposed to know whose streaming if you’re not subscribed to them

"If you like RU-vid, you'll love RU-vid Live"

@@Squeebbles Nah, they’re exclusive to RU-vid in its entirety when it comes to live-streaming and content creation. They can still appear on Twitch streams and events if they’re invited, but they can’t create content on Twitch using their Twitch channels. Now as for why RU-vid Gaming exists, it’s because of how insanely popular the gaming side of RU-vid was from 2011-2014. So RU-vid/Google decided to create an app dedicated to solely that which would cover gaming content. But it got discontinued and is meshed into the main RU-vid website and app. A lot of that pioneered channel memberships, live-streaming and emotes on this website. But since RU-vid Gaming is a defunct project and merged into RU-vid as a whole, a lot of the things current live streamers are asking for aren’t really being catered towards. Because while RU-vid Gaming exists and is a branch of RU-vid, it’s more about content, specializing in gaming events and esports, and signing live-streamers; there isn’t that dedicated team towards live-streaming anymore. Yes it branched into the overall usage of RU-vid, but these hyper specific things that were on Twitch and should cross over aren’t at the major list of what needs to be done on RU-vid. I think it’s something that they should really look into again because now they can actually fight against Twitch with the line of thinking they had years ago.

Vid idea: make a realistic statue with commands

@@enderthemaster Bro funniest comment

@@bigricardo7213 ikr I think it would be easy for him considering his skill but it would look hella cool

@mysticat you make youtube videos, you seem to understand the concept, i think its time for you to make a guide!

Did NOT expect you to be here lol

They already have that One flaw i notice is : if you setup your waiting room at 08:00 and you are late to start the stream, your viewer's algo next recommended vods will not always yours.

Also, doesn't Ludwig post his vods on a seperate channel?

He's mentioned how youtube being a big corporation means that any ideas have to go through hundreds of meetings before its even in the implementation phase, but the fact its been almost 8 months since lud joined and there have been 0 unannounced changes (gifting memberships was added but it was announced before lud moved) is worrying if youtube wants to be a real competitor, rather than just being the service that bankrolls streamer projects (which twitch should honestly be doing as well)

@@leximoding It’s primarily because the last time they dedicated a full team towards that, it literally failed. It was partly too ahead of its time, not as many streamers and also unable to keep up against Twitch. The RU-vid Gaming app was defunct in 2017-18, and assets from it merged into the RU-vid site and app.

thats the problem with youtube. i dont think they are actually that dedicated to the streaming portion of their page. they're competing more with tiktok than twitch. FB Gaming has reached out a whole lot better to their streamers than youtube does to theirs. then again thats probably just the trend, you get better treatments by the lower platform in the ranking.

@@KingofKnowhere oof yeah I remember the YT Gaming launch and... well I can't say fall because you have to go up to fall hahahahha I really don't know why 'RU-vid Live' wasn't and isn't a thing instead of gaming. YT Gaming, to me, sounds like a place I'd go for a gaming-focused youtube (videos and streams), kinda how the YT Kids app works, rather than being the sole live-streaming division. Not sure if they're blindly following Twitch's early days of being gaming only, but that was the case because its parent site, Justin.TV, was the non-gaming alternative. RU-vid has no alternative. I think that after the google + integration crisis back in the early 2010s (wow I feel old saying that), it's been a problem of youtube being too scared to commit to something. What gives me hope (and I mean no disrespect by this at all) is that the previous head of youtube gaming didn't seem to be very knowledgeable with people used youtube for. (He was in the crypto world, and now works for one, for example) So hopefully the new head of YT Gaming's changes/vision will be rolling out soon!

@@leximoding I disagree with you’re take on the previous head of RU-vid’s Gaming division, he’s the reason why he got Twitch streamers to the platform in the first place. He was a part of RU-vid Gaming from day one and did his job effectively even though the RU-vid Gaming app failed. He helped navigate the gaming side of RU-vid during the adpocaplyses as well, alongside brokering esports to broadcast on RU-vid. I mean he’s been apart of RU-vid side of gaming since 2007-2008 on the esports side. I mean he did MLG and Machinima stuff, alongside being apart of OpTic Gaming or affiliated with them during that time. He’s the exact leader you’d want in the position. The problem was that a lot of RU-vid Gaming’s problems were external. Fwiz had to deal with Google/Alphabet and RU-vid’s hierarchy. He introduced a lot of great things that are being used currently in the website and app, but a lot of it is not realized to its full potential because of RU-vid’s priorities and not wanting to rely on gaming because of the initial Adpocalypse. So eventually Fwiz left RU-vid for web3/crypto earlier this year. There’s a lot of nuance to the problems with the gaming side of RU-vid and RU-vid in general. But Fwiz definitely wasn’t the problem, far from it.

Did Ludwig start the "Purple v Red" motif? I know cars is definitely him.

@@ElyskeTheDonut I think so because before Lud was DrDispect or Ninja and they didn't do

@@ElyskeTheDonut Toast was the first one I saw who used colours, couple months before lud

HIM DOING HIMSELF AUUUUUGHHHHHHHHH

Yeah Valkyrae too

you coming here next?

funny seeing you here eric

I would easily agree, RU-vid has been doing so much recently, especially in the last year. Bringing in big streamers from Twitch, and having their own local streamers who started here. I personally would switch over to RU-vid after it does some things with the quality of livestreams, considering a lot of the livestreams I've watched here have had some kind of connection issue. But yes I agree with you entirely.

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hey pcrow! you were the creator who got me to download twitch back before covid when you had like 80k subs! super cool to see your success now, keep up the good work!

It's already fixed with Lud's Truffle extension, which supports all his friends who switched over and more.

Haha xD RU-vid fixing something, good one

oh def. i don’t think people would’ve thought about switching if not for him. he’s shown that you can be on the top still while on youtube.

It's just money

yeah but not everyone is ludwig lol. Like myth to be honest has been dying out a bit. He would not have the same effect ludwig had when switching. Its probably just money guys

ludwig coming out and talking about the contract negotiations between twitch and youtube was huge as well

@@Bidens_Diaper yeah you're right, the contract RU-vid gives is a dream for those streamers, even if they don't well, in the worst case scenario, they have multiplied earnings that they'd def earn more money than their usual twitch streams. On top of twitch planning to lower streamers income etc etc

20$ a month for a streaming dedi. not hard to do at all

She stopped once before two years ago

Yh, I was sad thinking that it was over forever. Glad it's coming back:)

RU-vid works a little differently. By default if your stream goes down it will just cause all the viewers to buffer. Once you bring your stream back up then it will start going for everyone. To actually stop the stream there is a button you have to press in the dashboard.

@@gyroninjamodder RU-vid can also automatically end the stream if you take too long to bring it back

@gtoss chddy first of all: adblocker, second of all they arent that confusing? its like one 20 second ad when you join a stream

You aren’t even factoring the largest factor RU-vid’s audience is orders of magnitude larger and if it can manage to activate a part of that for live streaming it’s over

big fan :)

Omg 2 of my favorite RU-vidrs in comment section. Anyways ya I see RU-vid pulling ahead. I hope it’s a close contest for awhile in hopes of getting the best of both platforms production team. Aswell as better enforcement and consistency in rules.

@@kronalord3764 Ntm, the ads. That is undeniably the feature that will kill Twitch if they don’t deal with it soon. I’ve tried Twitch but there’s just so many ads before even watching the streamer, whereas on RU-vid the ads are either supremely short or skippable. If RU-vid manages to sign on enough creators and get their stuff equal to Twitch, I can’t see the latter lasting long.

Mokey is a ludbud????? fuck yeah man!

RIP Nugget

Have they added the ability for you to add your own emotes yet?

@@rekzors yeah that was one of the first features in fact

@@rubyrules nice. I knew it had Ludwig's emotes but I didn't know they had opened it up yet for other creators.

fInAlLy iTS hErE

Yes please. This is a great idea and I hope RU-vid would implement that. The big 3 if RU-vid should be videos, shorts, and streaming (also RU-vid Music if you don't use Spotify). If RU-vid promote the streaming feature like that and make improvements to it, that would be great

Yeah I never got really into watching streams because I hate the way twitch is laid out. At best I watch vods and clips on here. I'm probably going to be watch more live with everyone moving to RU-vid now.

@@JacksonWalter735 didn’t you just comment from a clip of peter knowing that the age of consent in south korea is 13?

@@JacksonWalter735 didn’t you just comment from a clip of peter knowing that the age of consent in south korea is 13?

I do think it really helps that she commissions the same artist to do her thumbnail art since it’s quite easy to recognise if you’ve been watching her at least a few times. It also helps that the art is extremely pretty and I feel like it draws you in to want to press on it

Twitch users are losers

apparently using the same thumbnail ruins the stream algorithm-wise :/

yeah! id say to me, sykkuno's stream thumbnails actually work so well too. since when i see the cute sykkuno fanart with white bg it's automatically me thinking "oh it's sykkuno's livestream" very simple but very memorable tbh

It's fine for big streamers like her to do that cuz their core audience is going to join anyway but if you're trying to grow as a streamer, the title and thumbnail is KEY imo

RU-vid livestreams actually load when im on the road using only data while twitch buffers and dies over and over its crazy tbh

Resolution options aren't limited to big streamers, too, which makes it better when I'm on mobile. Also, I'm never really browsing on twitch, I'm either watching a stream or not on the site completely, vs being on youtube and seeing the stream pop up either as a recommended video or on the home page.

Lo-fi girl definitely will have more music than lily can ever make on her own so I doubt lily's streams can function like lo-fi girl.

@@bigcatdiary08 She has voice acted before. What's your point?

@@bigcatdiary08 well she’s getting voice acting work so obviously the industry would like to say otherwise

@Pig 🅥 no chance they’re making bots like this

Do you have to have a computer to use it ?

what extension?

Imagine admitting you're a Twitch frog

@@diorsse truffle

Smh, even Pewdiepie's own music, Bitch Lasagna, got claimed by some random company "On behalf of Pewdiepie". Though it's been fixed now, it's still shitty how easily people can abuse the system.

@@Martin-yh7vi bruh

@@CallumIsOK yep, that actually happened

I heard that too and was so confused lmao

There is live tab in the video tab.

The issue is probably that Jerma hasn't touched RU-vid in like 4 years. He doesn't really have a reason aside from cash flow

@@gamblerofrats 2ndJerma?

@@a_fallen_temple That's managed entirely by editors. I doubt he even knows the password for that channel.

@@a_fallen_temple I believe its run by another youtuber super dazza and others too

sounds nice but the only way he would make more money on youtube is if youtube gave him a contract. most these streamers coming from twitch either got a fat contract from yt. like lilly. or had major issues with bans. otherwise there is simply more money for a regular streamer to be on twitch. these big streamers are getting contracts on youtube. contracts they didnt have on twitch.

For those wondering why it would benefit the algorithm, having a 1-stop-shop for all your content is always better. People discovering Lud through his shorts channel are likely never to go over to the VODs channel because they are way too long, or because shorts tend to be served in a separate section of RU-vid than regular videos. However if they are all on 1 channel, RU-vid will have a better idea knowing what you like. So instead of viewing the main channel, shorts channel, and VODs channel as SEPARATE channels with a large overlap in viewers, it views them as one single channel and will do a better job of serving you a video you will actually watch in your recommended.

Gotta call Susan again

on my phone there are tabs for lives and shorts that are seperate from videos

@@Litlot We are talking about the Channel page of any creator, not the RU-vid home page/sections of the app. A good example is Colin and Samir, their channel will have like 5 shorts right next to a 2 hour long podcast. It appears jarring for those who want to watch the long podcast, and jarring for those who want to watch the shorts. They should be separate. However creating a shorts channel for your shorts is a bad way to grow your main channel compared to having a separator directly on the main channel.

@@AceLeach yeah i have that

I think the extension is a interesting way to go about it. i noticed in the political sphere a lot of people went the destiny route and had a site chat separate from RU-vid that shows on screen and they did a lot of the same things the extension does. but it was literally a different chat so its cool that lud is trying to integrate these features directly into the RU-vid site

"Live" on mobile is also separate, yes.

Ikr. It’s difficult sometimes to navigate to someone’s pass broadcasts in Twitch.

as an european it's way harder to even find a foreign livestream on youtube because the live section is filled with regional news or sports and you can't even filter by viewers or region unlike twitch which even lets you filter by language so I can check out what's trending in different countries. also the YT VOD chat is awful, constantly stops working and is barely synced to the stream

As a southeast asian, same

@@ChazzDex I would agree on both things; youtube is not really for discover streamers but to check that ones that you already know. On the chat aspect, you are right but i don't really pay that much attention to chat anyways, so i dont mind that much. Just my opinion tho.

@@MollyHuffle I'm so used to being able to quickly rewind and go back too, so if I miss something, even just a sentence, its easy to rewind. With twitch, its such a hassle that its almost never worth it if its less than 5 min missed.

You have summoned the bots...

ah yes, whenever I felt like beating the shit out of someone, I always went to Lofi girl to immediately calm myself down

@@nic_aya Ah yes, because wanting to beat the shit out of people is the only type of anger around.

@@TestTubeGirl nah I was just playing I don’t have the temper of a toddler

Yeah..... It does suck as someone who put it on BG and goes asleep.

You are correct but I think that without the top streamers RU-vid can’t grow as much as with smaller streamers. Because if people see big streamers succeeding on yt it will encourage smaller streamers to start streaming on RU-vid also

I think this would be valid if they had a good section to discover streams. they have one big catch all for everything, and it’s basically a tag instead of a proper section yknow. literally just a tab with categories would be so much easier to browse streams than what they have now

This wouldn't work too well because this was literally the mixer method of streamer acquisition. They got Ninja and Shroud as their big creators and then aimed toward getting many smaller streamers. And its pretty obvious to see how well that worked out.

They may offer the small streamer more money but that doesn't guarantee his following will jump to RU-vid to watch and may just find another streamer. But I do like your idea of smaller streams getting deals too.

idk $80k/yr to switch to youtube isnt an OBVIOUS bag. If youre making 60k you NEED to grow to a point where you have enough money to retire in 5 years. and moving to youtube can very seriously hinder your growth if youre small. So youd cap yourself out at that $80k/yr instead of potentially growing to 6 figure salaries on twitch

my man you posted this two minutes after this 11 minute video was posted… how would you know if he missed

live streamer Yes-man

im a melee OG who wonders why the hell ludwig is so popular but mogul mails is fire and im very happy for his success. melee people are truly the biggest brained.

@@ConnorBox he dont and by he i mean ludwig

@@ConnorBox I was two minutes in and was really impressed by the research and time he put into the video so yeah

I think Lupo has my favorite stream thumbnails

Yea I wish that every after Rae's stream, her channel mods would change the title and add a date just like how it is titled on Leslie's VOD channel.

a lot of people do. Just not as popular.

Most streamers don't even want to put in that little effort lol

TimTheTatMan is a good example of this, but now I don’t watch his content as it is just a recorded intro with stream clips, and not a dedicated video as it used to be, or like with Jev’s content

There are also some content creators that have said they don't like doing it that way. Because they either focus on making a good yt videos or making a good stream. It's hard to do both and then they end up with mediocre content both ways

because its hard as fuck lmao, its much easier to do what everyone does, aka start stream react to videos for a couple of hours and switch to a game end stream, repeat. coming with an idea and cool concept that can be turned into a video is super tough

For the VOD listing Rae just has a separate playlist of all of her livestreams. She’ll unlist them so they don’t clutter up the page of her other videos but they are still easy to find in her playlists. But yeah if everyone had a universal past livestream tab that would be nice.

lol they are obviously only switching because they are paid to so so, nobody would ever switch on their own to youtube (for streaming). In fact most established youtubers went to twitch for streaming and keept their youtube for videos only.

@@ChazzDex I think his point is there’s probably a good number of decently big to big sized streamers that are on the fence for various reasons. Ludwig’s extension would probably help them feel like it’s not too different.

lmao true I bet Slime will bring that up on the next episode

It isn't their fault though. There's a Tom Scott video which explains it well.

Twitch needs a better video player and to decrease the amount/frequency of their ads or casual fans will never stick around

RU-vid in general will die if it doesn’t

its half YT needs to improve it, its half "when will Twitch get sued for not enforcing it"

My first thought as well lmao

RU-vid is all about viewer retention, if it means you watch more RU-vid, they'll probably implement it quickly.

@u know me LMAOOO, I hate bots but a bot for culinary channel aint that bad, still not gonna work but funny

@u know me bruh bot