This is why Bart is the best. He's such a patient teacher, he pushes his callers to think for themselves and when they sometimes go astray he is always nice about it and supportive (even if his face expressions say otherwise). I like it, he could get more clicks by blasting callers but understands it's wise not to!
I don’t find it hard to believe V had AK. But the river jam was horrible. If you absolutely must have some bluffs here, surely AsQx is a much better option?
Typing during the river action: I'm snap folding against the river bet. At higher stakes (even 2-5), a jam can get everything to fold with a +EV frequency. But that $200 lead screams that 1) Villain is confident he's ahead, and 2) Villain is ready to play for stacks even if he loses some of that confidence to a raise. So no point in calling to lose $200 or raising to lose even more. Snap fold. Typing during the reveal: WTF?? I clearly have no idea what goes on in low stakes players' heads.
Sometimes you find some good players at low stakes but most the time these low stakes players have no strategy and are just putting money into the pot 😅
16:47 good video. One small disagreement hero having the As would generally make his hand weaker as a call (of course top two is way too strong to fold here anyway). Perhaps you mean because the Ah is on the board so the As isn’t a good card for opponent to consider bluffing with because it has showdown value? That does make some sense; however I think the As as a nut flush blocker is pretty neutral here to make a call/fold decision…
With deeper stacks I would guess a solver could have a jam frequency here balancing nut flush with nut blocker, but I find that maybe even hard to believe because of AK showdown value, but here villain is getting decent enough pot odds that they should be defending down with a much wider portion of their range. Like Bart said I don't even know what hands are bet folding here. I would never expect to get better to fold or worse to call.
My first instinct was that this river jam is certified bananas, but somehow caller's line is more or less solver approved (by GTOBase, 200bb deep). But that's against a river donk range of Ax flushes (which caller blocks), 6x flushes (which mix call and fold against the jam), and 9s9x/7s7x (which are bluffs and fold). Still feels like a square call, since better can't be expected to fold, worse can't be expected to call, and AK is only 4 combos (and shouldn't bet/fold, but apparently did). Anyway, this hand is weird AF. (Solver takes b33 on flop and b75 on turn, then faces pot-sized donk on river with similar amount back to the hand as played.)
Can someone explain to me how this is a 100% Never raise/jam river yet villain is dumb for folding when he sensed it wasn’t a stone bluff? Caller thinks they’re betting for value. Villain senses this. Folds, knowing it doesn’t feel like a flush, which means it’s probably sets for value since AK is so blocked but *could* occasionally be AK. If hero should never rip with top two pair there, villain is right to fold since AK is bare bottom of hero’s range.
This play was the definition of fancy play syndrome (I know from experience)! I think you would’ve heard from AT & KT probably folds on turn. So he should only have flush or QJ 😬
I'm not sure there are that few Qxss here. It was CO vs BU and he raised so small pre, I'm calling with Q9s for sure at least and plenty of 1/3 splashy fools are playing any suited Q they raised. Still a pretty trivial just call, though.
@@seslocrit9365 230 BBs deep live? It's tiny. You should be calling a massive percentage of what you're opening with when facing a late position 3 bet that small. That's why a lot of people use 4x in position, 5x out of position 3 bet sizing.
Very interesting merge spot here. I wouldn’t do this against fish but against a thinking player, he could be bet folding QJ. But those same players are probably also folding K10. With $1/3 players not folding flushes I think it’s just too shallow but I don’t hate the idea
@@spaffron4285 yeah but it’s a 1-3 game and c/o opened for $10 so it was just $20 to call. Smaller games are riskier because people open with a wider range.
Why would you go larger in position with the preflop 3 bet? I would think that you want to go larger out of position to get more folds, whereas in position you want to see the flop more often.
it's not that you want to go larger IP compared to OOP, but factoring in the positional advantage he prefers to go more than 3x to a small open raise so that the pot is larger. Absolute bet sizing exploits are a part of this, when you're playing higher stakes its all about relative pot size, but in low stakes you can be pretty sure your opponents will call/4! the same range if you bet to 30 or if you bet to 35-40. If you can bet 40 and get the same calls while IP, it's a good thing to size up.
@@gabrielrockman yes so you're not very good i got it. Im not guessing here im telling you the answer. You can listen or you can ignore it your choice.
@@Stockhandle123 solvers do increase 3bet and 4bet size when OOP, this isnt news. When you are OOP, solvers prefer to reduce the SPR and get more fold equity pre flop. So yeah u dont know what ur talking about actually
QJs is going to check raise the flop a ton, and KT isn’t likely to be likely in his range. Most likely hands for V are Txhh hands like JThh, QThh, T9hh and random flushes like 45ss.
I see this shit every Saturday night lol. So much spewing. But another reason to put in larger bet sizes on turn and possibly on the flop. You’re playing for stacks on the river even on bad runouts.
They say 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Classic example. If villain thought AK was good (and didn’t give hero something like AT) then why not lead out or CR the turn? Why wait to make this play on river? And ‘hero’ jamming may have worked out - but only because villain was SO lost. Kudos to @evrenturan3674 for his ‘fish on fish violence’ comment. To the caller - glad you won. NOT trying to mock you. Just PLEASE understand the jam on river is not the right move
If villain is a decent player, jamming as a bluff with the but blocker isn't that bad of a play, but I'd certainly prefer to be deeper behind. The whole combo bet thing is stupid. It is the most counter-intuitive thing I've ever heard of. Nobody is going to fold with a better hand but call eith a worse.
I would think 67 of spades or Jack queen of spades would have raised the turn. I wouldn’t give him a flush drawer here having the king blocker. I would’ve jammed. I have not gotten to the reveal yet, but that is just my thinking.
I hate these call ins. This caller still has no clue his bone head play got him half the pot. "I wanted to get 2 pair to call and flushes to fold" can't make this up.
what a silly poker room where $100 was white, $25 was purple, and $5 was yellow, if the manager was not smart enough to go with the standard colors then there is no telling what rules were not followed. JMO AK worked out here but I would never consider a shove there, more like a crying call. but it's poker it's better not to understand too much stuff lol.
Maybe if the Hero has 400$ more in his stack, he can use this Ace of spades as a Bluff but jamming at this stack size is not getting anyone off a hand that beats the hero. This is a Crying Call. edit: "If that's True"... I feel the same way you do Bart.
Disagree with Bart when he says that villain won't donk bet river with KT. KT blocks AK and KK so CO could be repping the flush to bluff AA KK AK, but will also get value from AQ/ AJ especially with a blocker.
Hey Bart, did you get fired from HCL for kinda siding with Garrett? My feeling was there was no smoking gun and I’ve played with dingbat chicks for 20 years so why did you blow that? Caus u blew it
The logic here is mystifying. He claims the raise was so that worse two pairs might call and straights and flushes would fold. You can't have it both ways. If he's calling with worse two pair then all his straights and flushes call, too. Unless this is the magical unicorn bet that makes all worse hands call and better hands fold.
We say “don’t be results-oriented “but the exploit of play of this player versus a known opponent made for the better result. Just shows you how you have to be GTO and exploitative at the same time to be good. It’s hard to quantify the exploit.
You are going to have the best hand here a huge % of the time. It’s a very wet board. What if villain does have QJ of spades? Just let him get there? Got to make this dude pay. Go big. 75 80% ish
@@ichirorightfield I just like checking back top pair a lot especially after a c bet for pit control but also because fools always lead river thinking I’m weak and I usually call
On a double flush and straight draw board? That's criminal. You need to get value from worse hands before they potentially shutdown on the river. Maaaaaaybe if villain is some maniac who you know will bluff big if he senses weakness.
