Why Has Jeremy Roenick Been Rejected by the Hockey Hall of Fame? 

Maybe if he wasn’t such a prick to people, he might get voted in.

took the words right out of my mouth. well said sir.

The HHOF is an old boys club. JR and Theoren Fleury should both be in there, but their honesty is too much for the old stuffy pinkos that run it.

Yep!

I think the same thing is happening with theo Fleury..

Great anecdote .. thx! 👍

That's the other side of him. He did some decent things for other people, including fans.

I remember the Red Wings playing Chicago in the 1995 conference finals. It was a hell of a series. I always enjoyed watching JR against the Red Wings.

And without fans, there is no league.

he was a class act to all fans. he was probably one of the most competitive players to play the game, and it showed through the way he treated his opponents including his long time friend amonte. but to fans he had all the time in the world

You knew he was on the phone and still thought it was a good idea to shout his name across the airport. While it might make Jeremy Roenick look like a saint it definitely makes you look like an asshole. Bragging about it 20 years later just confirms it haha.

Milbury is a stooge. JR is a legend. Period.

Milbury probably still has issue with Roenick because he had to coach against him SO MANY TIMES. That was then... he needs some therapy to move past it... Glad Milbury isn't commentating anymore... no sense of humor.

Roenick's career highlight on the ice was scoring the series clinching OT goal for the Flyers against the Leafs in 2004 to go to the conference finals.

As a kid who grew up in Winnipeg in the 70’s and watched hockey all my life, I 100% agree. Theo use to dominate the WHL back when that league was really hard

Sakic, Madano, Linden, etc. Theo is in that club

@@albundy7623 Fleury was over a point per game in regular season and playoffs, but they put guys like Sedins in hall of fame first. Clark Gillies etc

Theo will NEVER get in. He is now a certified anti vax nut job. Mogilny, yet to hear if he is a Putin supporter. Off ice deal breakers for me. Ovechkin could score 1000 and I would still reject.

Theo's politics are 'problematic'. That is why he is not in the Hall.

That is a fantastic anecdote and it was great to read … thx! 👍

Roenick is an absolute legend. I'm a Pens fan through and through, but he worked through so much to never get a cup and his best chance was against Lemieux. Dealt a bad hand and unfortunately probably has CTE as a result of giving it his all. He belongs in the hall of fame without a doubt, I just hope he's doing alright.

I love when players are there for fans

@@ProHockeyAlumni This was great content, thanks 🙏. I sat behind JR on a flight in 1996 from Boston to Chicago, the guy is a class act. We were returning home to Chicago so we were huge hawks fans. My brother and I were both playing ice hockey and he was so cool, asking us stuff -he was truly interested in talking with us the whole flight. Didn’t know his dad was a Mobil exec, my grandfather was an Amoco exec, I know how travel intensive that level of job is.

​@@michaelreddick6093 he for sure has at least minor CTE I would say.

Pat Verbeek, the original Little Ball of Hate, also has over 500 goals, and he will never get in either. Yet, the HOF puts in Cam Neely who has 600 points less than Vincent Damphousse who will also never get a glance with 1,200 points. Then the HOF puts in two Orange Twins from Vancouver, who hardly scored. Nonsense

@@TheNHLRebel Yeah, absolutely idiotic.

​@@skyehorvath9063Yes, but not every baseball player who hits 500 home runs makes the Hall of Fame. Not every 1,000 point scorer isn't in the Hall of Fame either. Is Ray Whitney a HOFer???

bc sports betting and association with gambling business / ring. similar thing happened to pete rose, they don't know fans to know that there is corruption, or that they can't trust a fair match, it tarneshes the entire NHL

They're from Sweden, and they were incredible hockey players who had a completely unique style. They deserve to be in the HOF. @@skyehorvath9063

Seemed like a piece of shit that betrayed teammates and put people’s lives at risk imo

a talented goon....

gary doesnt want hockey played that way he wants to neuter the game to make it more friendly to jewish twinks like himself

Damn you brought back some memories. That Blackhawks team was ridiculous!

Roenick the original "video game cheating guy".

@@hounddog3476 Technically 2nd, Bo Jackson in Techmo Bowl was first I believe. Still trying to figure out how Bo Jackson was better than Barry Sanders in that game!

The key in 94 was to put a goon against Roenick - he had a high agressiveness rating but low fighting rating - it was easy to put him out of the game that way!

@@thomasvincennie3910 well thats a strategy at least. We made you hold right for 23 seconds if Blackhawks popped on our random selection. We had to random or everyone i know would have fought over the Penguins

Right on !😊

????what about Charlie BURNS

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Glenn Hall and Denis DeJordy..... kudos! Haven't thought of those names (especially DeJordy) in years.

Not going to happen in today's WOKE NHL. Old days, he would have been in by now.

Hell yes. JR, one of a kind!

Yeah, Patrick Roy game him 3rd degree burns.

are you saying hull and gill were profound and roenick was blunt and not profound in comparison?

@@johncraftenworth7847 lol. Not at al!

Wow. Since way be then? You know A LOT about old time hockey! Real warriors. Playing in 1980s and 1990s by far the most violent and dangerous era

The problem is Patrick Roy couldn't hear anything he said 💍💍

@@derricklarsen2919 Yessss 🫵👍

Bullshit

@@edward9What? Ever heard of the Broad Street Bullies?

super comment ... thanks for sharing your experience. awesome!

This has to be one of the best stories I've ever heard about how someone came to love the game of hockey. I too love the game and I find it fascinating that a kid from Alabama where hockey is probably just an afterthought to most people was even able to watch hockey let alone get a bunch of friends together and start playing it albeit on Rollerblades. I have never been to Alabama but I can't imagine there being much of an opportunity to take up the game in the same way that us Canadian kids do. We practically lived and breathed hockey day after day. Probably much like Americans love their football. I grew up in a small town in the northern part of the province of British Columbia a long ways from the bright lights of any big city when playing or watching hockey was something that everyone seemed to be into. Your comment about how hockey gave you the confidence that you could be good at something is very similar to what I experienced. I was the scrawny kid who only had a few close friends and needed something to help me with my confidence and that something turned out to be hockey and the people involved with it. Like you hockey gave me some of my best memories of my childhood. I found this piece on Jeremy Roenick very interesting even though he and I are very different. It seems like JR would be someone that I would get along with just fine as he at least appears to care about the little guy even though he travels in circles of celebrity of which I know little about and would never be comfortable with all the attention those people have to endure. JR may not be popular or well liked by some people but he at least seems to care about fans and will go out of his way to show his appreciation for their support. As for being in the HOF if the Hall is for the best to have ever played in the NHL then JR deserves to be inducted. We all make mistakes and I would think that JR is probably somewhat remorseful for some of the mistakes he's made. To hold JR out of the HOF because of his personality or some of the mistakes he's made seems to be a bit unfair to me. Take care Austen.

I’m from Alabama as well (Scottsboro) and grew up in-line skating/playing roller rink hockey as well. I loved the Thrashers while working in Atl and was sad to see ‘em go. Root for The Lighting nowadays. Followed the Crimson Tide’s hockey team as well.

Did you also get laid with your cousins and siblings?

He was also dirty

@@robertlavigne9828 Howe was loved for that

@@robertlavigne9828 Hockey in general was a lot dirtier back then, it wasn't like he stuck out as the dirtiest player.

Who cares what he says it’s on the ICE that matters

@@devinhapanovich8428 There is just something really screwed-up about Eric Lindros being in the HOF and Roenick isn't. Lindros had a career that was merely good and was always judged on his natural talent and potential. He could've been great but just wasn't. Lindros was a cancer in the locker-room, he was always a major distraction (and not in a good way), way too much BS was tolerated from his parents, and yet all his PR crap (and there was A LOT) never detracted from him getting in. Roenick doesn't deserve even one-quarter of that same consideration? Roenick actually went out, gave it his all every night, and got it done but is not worthy for the HOF? 575 goals isn't good enough? That's messed-up.

I wondered when somebody would comment on that! Times have certainly changed!

@@ProHockeyAlumni fir the wurse

Thanks Desert - Appreciated ✌️

At first it seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame are doing the right thing by keeping Roenick out. Way too many off ice distractions were in the making of a headcase. J.R. could not even get a friend from his home country (USA) to like him. Aside from that disastrous time with the Blackhawks, he still had excellent offensive seasons. Any player who scores 50 goals twice and notched more than 500 goals, definitely belongs in the Hockey Hall of Hame.

Growing up in Chicago area and playing ice hockey in the 90s I was such a fan. My brother and I sat behind him on a United Airlines flight from Boston to Chicago in the summer of 1996. He was the nicest athlete, maybe just person I have ever met. He was genuinely interested in what we had to say, he talked with us the entire flight. I never knew until this video his dad was a Mobil executive, my grandfather was an Amoco executive and I know how travel intensive that type of job is, glad he was able to play and become a legendary Blackhawk.

There definitely is that human element to it, which is inherent in pretty much all selection committees like this. I didn't like Roenick in the 90s, celebrated the hit that Darien Hatcher put on him, and have really modified my opinion quite a bit since then. He had his beefs with opponents (who doesn't/didn't?), laid hits that could be called dirty sometimes, but always took it like a man when they gave it back to him. I've seen Roenick take a hit before where his jaw was broken and as he's skating off the ice, he's literally reaching into his mouth and pushing horridly loosened teeth back into place and only going out of the game after the team doctor tells him he's no longer medically cleared to play and the coach is directly ordering him to go to the hospital. (They might show this in this video, I honestly haven't watched it all yet.) 99% of us would've been a screaming fetal ball on the ice and would've been taken out by ambulance, JR walked out of there like it wasn't much of anything. That is toughness that you have to admire whether you're a fan of him or not. What I don't like is how often a Hall of Fame pick is chosen or declined based on PR reasons. I thought his comments toward the fans during strike years were pretty ugly, I think him saying that the fans are just jealous of him struck a bad chord and came back to him during HOF selection. I viewed it as whiny that in 2006 he said that the USA hockey team had blackballed him. He had significant injuries and had been in a slump the last few years, I don't see how that is the fault of USA hockey. Still, I think his performance in the late 80s and through the 90s absolutely qualifies him to be in the HOF, as well as scoring 500 goals in his career, which is the gold standard of a hockey career. I don't think it's right to hold post-career PR things against him for HOF selection. For what he did as a player, hell yes he should be in the HOF, same as Pete Rose for what he did as a player. Pete Rose is another one who just got deluged by media that loved to portray him as some Jekyll & Hyde character, the media was downright evil the way they poisoned everything about the guy. Rose gambled but every single gambling receipt that he's ever generated has been scrutinized by federal officials and media. He never threw games or point-shaved to benefit his gambling. He never even gambled on his own team (to win or lose). For whatever he did, he's paid the price 50 times over in the last 30 years and should be in the baseball HOF for what he did as a PLAYER. I look at Jeremy Roenick like that, too. Hall of Fame selection committees are WAY too PR-driven and tend to only look at the negative.

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Patrick Roy's response was Hall of Fame worthy in itself.

they werent terrible, Hawks could never get past the Oilers before JR

@@jamesd242you are correct in that.. Back I the mid 80s the Stadium was jumping every night. And then Gretzky and company met them in the playoffs and their done..

Thanks, Mort for your always in-depth analysis 👍

Agreed … Tkaczuk, Suter. Fluery etc

I'll never forget his OT goal in game 6 in Toronto 2004. I'm glad I got to see him wear the orange and black.

Okay, here's some numbers. In his peak years, he finished 12th, 7th, 15th and 6th in points. Very good, but not really among the true elite of the league. He had three 100-point seasons at a time where 100-point seasons were still pretty common. He never won an individual award, or even finished higher than 5th in the voting for one. He never finisher higher than 4th in All-Star Team voting at centre. His team never won the Stanley Cup. None of this screams "Hall-of-Famer". So the answer as to why he's not in the Hall of Fame is most likely just "his career wasn't quite good enough."

@@puckerings look at the other centers of that time. So 4th in a league and the rest are pretty great. Gretzky, Mario, Sakic, Lindros. The fact that he was top 10 in that era is impressive. Madano, Amonte,Oates, Jagr, I could go forever here. I agree that his numbers are borderline shoe in but everything else he did and who he was despite the negative has put way worse players in. Am I wrong? The competition and game were different then as well. Players had balls unlike today's ballet bs

​@@mulletoutdooradventures6286 okay you was making good points until you started bitching about today's players. Why can't sports fans just state their points without bitching about a certain era.

@@TheGaara802 easily because it's true. The game was different. It just was. The enforcers are gone, at least real ones. Players were absolutely different. I was always coached take the body. Always. Lay your shoulder into them and put them there through the boards. Sure there are still some big hits but you get fined 😂. Jeremy not only rumbled but also put up massive numbers for those penalties. Who in NHL right now is that? Last decade? I'll wait

Excellent comment!

Great anecdotes ... appreciate your comment!

Thanks for watching! 👍 greatly appreciated!

Enjoy your 1rst round playoff games 😂😂 all you gonna get 😂😂😂

Yes, Roenick should be in the Hall of Fame!! As a janitor!! LOL. 😃

We’ll said …. Thx! 🙏

He hurt the Leafs a few times. The Leafs could have used him for sure.

"Intensity and valour" -- appropriate and accurate descriptions of JR. ThX!

Mercy! .., superior facts and knowledge … great contribution! 💪

@BDH BDH Yeah, Ovechkin became #1 this season on the all-time list of most times having scored the first goal of the game and I didn't see the major networks or the NHL mention it. Regular season all-time: 1. Ovechkin 140 2. Jagr 135 3. Brett Hull 131 4. Gordie Howe 127 5. Teemu Selanne 119

+/- is one of the best stats in hockey. First goal of the game is completely irrelevant.

@@evanleibinger1913 First goal of the game is an official stat counted by the NHL and is prominently featured on their players miscellaneous stats page.

Thanks 🙏 for watching!

Great plot twist at the end, Schmozie!

I watched in his era and you're correct on all fronts. The game now is a lot faster. That being said, these guys were absolute warriors. Hits today that would be suspensions were run of the mill. Incredible.

They must look more at cup wins than anything else . Even with 1 cup , worlds gold and Olympic gold some don't get in .

Have you heard of the Tkachuk brothers?

Awesome 👏 thanks for watching!

Hockey purest still consider it a great hit. It looks dirty to you because of the head contact, but he didn’t target the head at all. Would have been shoulder to shoulder if the guys head wasn’t down so how can you call it dirty on his part when the head contact wasn’t his fault? Or do you just want hitting outta the game period?

This should still be considered clean in the game of hockey. The sport with the most grit and toughness was still changed due to soft people like you. Why even wear the pads if your not expecting to get hit or hit somebody?

Blues fan here and I’d have to agree, but add that while I couldn’t stand Roenick or Steve Yzerman, in hindsight and with the Blues now having a Cup I can say I respect both of them and their game. Plus without Stevie Y and JR the Blues rivalries of the 90’s wouldn’t have been all that good without an adversary to despise.

Thx very much … I too really enjoy listening to Pat Foley and the excitement of Chicago Stadium! 🔥

Unbelievable comment … great story that I enjoyed reading .. thanks for sharing 🙏 awesome 👏

Great comment⭐️

Mikita, Hull, Kane, Toews- you've got a few legit superstars who stayed too

Good thoughts … comprehensive and detailed .. thx!

Agree with this...he had four elite seasons but as you mentioned, no individual or major team awards and no 1st or 2nd team all star selections. Only broke 80 points in those four seasons, too. 90/91 - 93/94

Incredible isn’t it? Thx!

I had forgotten all he had gone through. I'm glad that they have cut down on some of the more dangerous elements of the sport. Perhaps fear of concussion-related lawsuits has played a role.

Interesting how great those 6-team sweaters have held up over time. Can't be improved.

this is a great recollection that is very much appreciated. Thanks for sharing.

fair and even-handed comment ... Thanks!

Don’t compare a mid tier player to a great like Cobb..

haha ya but cobb was the best hitter of his era. Roenick was a 10-15th in league scoring guy in his prime