Why hasn't archaeology uncovered evidence of Book of Mormon cities and culture? Ep. 103 

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: You are not in a Matrix simulation. THIS EPISODE IS A RE-UPLOAD. It was originally posted back in December 2020, but we later discovered some historical inaccuracies that we felt strongly about correcting. We have done so, and present it to you once more to enjoy with greater accuracy. :) Thank you for your patience, and may the Force be with you.

Your missing on big thing. The mayan had a written language and in the mayan hieroglyphs theres no mention of anything from the book of mormon

The reference point was given to Joseph Smith. Zarahemla across from Nauvoo as stated in D&C. Why is this not taken into consideration?

Maybe make a video about the View of the Hebrews? Strange how a book came out just a few years before the Book of Mormon which had many of the same ideas: Native Americans were descended from the Ten Lost Tribes, they arrived after a long sea journey, two groups engaged in long wars with the eventual destruction of the "good" group by the "evil", and that the gospel of Jesus was preached in ancient America. Coincidence? The kicker is that Joseph Smith's scribe Oliver Cowdery lived for 5 years in the same small Vermont town where the author of 'View of the Hebrews' lived. I grew up in the LDS church and I was never told that many, many writers before Joseph Smith were speculating that Native Americans were actually descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

So, the evidence is that you "just haven't found anything yet"?

As an active member of the church this is a question that gives me a healthy skepticism. I really enjoyed the video, this provides some great perspective.

If the BOM were true, I just find it hard to believe that God with allow so many things from the Bible to be found but none for the Book of Mormon.

So crazy how few meso American sites have been discovered /explored

Was this re-uploaded?, I feel like I've seen this one allready

Even with limited sites discovered and being dug, what HAS been uncovered does NOT support BoM claims though. Any archeological site even in its infancy digging produces items to date it, pottery, tools, weapons, waste pits/heaps... all Mesoamerican sites to date FAIL to produce one shard of BOM item claims. That is an issue itself

Rationalization at its best.

It's like saying unicorns exist. All I have to do is find one.

4:25 why is nobody talking about how the fish saying hello translates to "epstein didn't kill himself"? LOL

How about Hill Cumorah in up state NY? Former presidents of the church referred to that hill as the one mentioned in the BoM. There's nothing there.

This video is presented as if using a scientific/factual approach. But its clearly hoping the viewer will assume the BOM is true and wait until the evidence for it is discovered at some later time. Science typically lets the evidence lead to the conclusion, not the other way around. So this isn't so much a scientific/factual argument as an apologetic argument in favor of a particular religious view. Probably meant for believers who struggle to reconcile faith with science.

Perturbed heartlander here. 😂. I’d love to see you do a video on Wayne May / Meldrum/ Bruce porter heartlander stuff. It’s amazing! Mesoamerica has its story, including I believe a visitation of Jesus Christ. But from my research, the heartland model makes way more sense. And the evidence is very impressive.

I was pretty critical myself about there being, all honestly, not much archeological evidence to back up book of mormon. I'm a member of the church, but like some critics, would like to see some pretty good evidence of the book of mormon too. Also, just want to add that ironically no matter how much critics despise or love to try to discredit the book of mormon, they know how wonderful it would be if the book of mormon turns out to be true. If they really want to know, they'll chill out as any atheists should that even want a testimony of the holy Bible itself. I took a college class once called the art and architecture of ancient Latin America. Knowing about the book of mormon, I of course couldn't help but want to find SOMEthing that could back up the book of mormon. The church doesn't really say book of mormon events happened particularly only in ancient latin America. Neither was the class I took 100% about overall archeological findings I believe but pretty darn close. Nor did I find much that was for sure fool proof evidence of book of mormon. However, I sure did see and find things that can back up book of mormon or echoed things I knew about in the book of mormon. I remember asking my professor of this class, who believed in God too, of this big dilemma we believers in God still inevitably face regarding God's overall interactions and dealings with His kids throughout history.. I'll stretch out several specifics about this dilemma. Known history of man on earth goes on for about 5000 years according to the bible. Some say even 6000. The separated surrounding isles and American continent in their separated form, distant from the land masses in eastern hemisphere has been around for at least 5000 years. Many say waaaaay more than that. Apparently about 525 million years ago. That's another story that includes a lot of dinosaurs whose bones are found everywhere on the planet. Ancient Americans were very much around for most or all of these years covering at least 3000 long years of civilization in ancient Latin America. SO.. my question not just to the professor, but any faithful is why is it God spoke with man for well over 5000 years in the eastern side of the world, but not one time to His kids in the western hemisphere? God spoke with his prophets in the old world or eastern hemisphere for 1000s of years right?? But totally left out His kids in the western hemisphere this whole time?? Book of mormon or not, it is absolutely absurd or strange, peculiar notion that God for thousands of years interacted with man on one side of the planet but not the other. A God who so loved the WHOLE world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believing in Him may not perish but have everlasting life. I pointed this out to my professor. I did confront this issue and how very off it was that there would be so much, evidence or not, that God did for his kids on one side of the world but just nothing on the other side of the world.. a very smart man I know who is an lds scientist, but scientist nonetheless, knows tons of things that can back up the book of mormon. He runs a website called www.mormonhaven.com Check him out and ask away critic or not. There are several other videos that give pretty decent evidence, maybe not a whole lot, but some pretty neat stuff reminiscent of book of mormon. Some are native American names and words very similar to both Hebrew language AND Egyptian hieroglyphs, variety of ancient gold plates just like the book of mormon ones discovered around the planet, Hebrew or obvious middle eastern artifacts found in America, metal armor and swords found in America, and several uncommon book of mormon names that have been discovered as well. Bottom line, gotta say it's quite obvious that ALL faiths are all a huge lie or a fraud. All are indeed so or all but one. BUT, that shouldn't mean we all have to keep disrespecting each other or fight each other over stupid differences like different beliefs?? Humans have insulted, killed, hated, and criticized each other since the very beginning for the most pathetic and most pitiful, simple reasons. We're all stuck on this planet. A great way to make the best of it is to not let things like religion dictate at all who you care about and who you deem your friends or family. I've criticized and opposed my old Roman-catholic faith more than anything on this planet. But I've still been able to be great friends with Catholics, remain as family with certain catholic family, and been able to give much humanitarian support alongside catholic church. Religion or not, lets not hate on each other so much over such pitiful differences yeah.

And you quote a BYU archeologists? What about others who are not LDS?

"Aztecs" STILL go by Mexica..

Wow just wow, there are plenty of paintings, tablets, drawings, bones poetry ect that identify some of these discoveries in the americas as well as other places in the world. You cant just say they are found and someone just comes along and labels them randomly as what they want. Alot goes into identification and studying of the sites. Its very rare there are sites found with nothing else around them such as any signs of people living near buy, or the buliders or no paintings and carvings or architecture that is completely out of the norm and never before unseen, heard of or spoken about in history before. Gobeki tepi seems to such sort of a place. Only a very small portion has been uncovered yet but doesn't seem to be a place people lived around, was purposely buried for some reason. The type of build and architecture is completely out of place too as its from a time were mankind was thought to still be in caves and hunter gatherers at best. It seems to date from 10'000-30'000 years old. Not so much the time period but something like that is what youd expect to find in the americas perhaps with some carvings paintings and drawings in some of their stuff matching that of the time jesus was alive and were he was from as jesus was said to have been a huge influence on them. You certainly dont see nothing like that in any of the americas finds...do you ?

Again. There's the no evidence thing.

its not that it doesnt give absolute evidence... its that all of the evidence specificaly dis-prooves the entire thing.

Throughout the entire video you don't mention all of the maya text carved on stone or painted on pottery. Not common, but we do have the written names of most of the 1% excavated. Doesn't change much, but for clarification.

Did you already do this?

Haven’t they excavated the whole book of Joshua? Jordan River crossing(Gilgal) and the wall of Jericho?

Please do one on the heartland theory!!! There is so much to talk about!!!

5:32 You got to watch more Discovery Channel, a man covered this topic of the flood, he found some evidence and even showed a river bed dry up overnight and fill back up...

Moab had become a tributary of Assyria by the late 8th century bc and was conquered by the Babylonians in 582 bc, upon which the Moabites disappeared from history. FYI - we still have Moabite artifacts and stone writings. That was 1500 years ago. I'm not seeing significantly more time since the Nephites have been destroyed. Personally I'd love to tour Zarahemla. But in the mean time I'm not holding my breath. Its peace out for now.

The evidence for the Israelites being slaves in Egypt has been found. Many historians can't accept it because it will prove the God of Israel exist. That's why they refuse to accept the fact that Ramesses II(The Great) was not the ruler when Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt in the book of Exodus. Because they have pure evidence of a stone tablet for Ramesses II great sucess which has the people he had conquered. And one of those nations states Israel, Sons from the House of David. So that would mean King David lived before Ramesses II and he had conquered the land of Israel. So yes, they have evidence. But no one is willing to move the timeline to be corrected.

The locations really don't matter. If there was one location there would be artifacts. For example, Roman armies marched through the UK and left artifacts behind. The kind of numbers from the Book of Mormon should mean a lot of artifacts (coins, pieces of military uniform, metal objects, etc. There is none of that found. Even if you reject the heartland model, there should be Mesoamerican artifacts linked to the BM. That geography would be found in Central America (Mayan) and Northwest South America (Incan and other groups) archaeology. That also has not been found. Then there are historical facts like the absence of horses and steel that must be explained.

Merneptah Stele Mesha Stele Tel Dan Stele Kurkh Monoliths Shroud of Turin The Dead Sea Scrolls While all of these things can be argued as to how they do or do not validate the Biblical record, they do exist to be argued over. By your line of logic, absolutely anything could be conjured up as a historical record, and never require any authenticity or validity check.

You’re map in the beginning is inaccurate. Didn’t Nephi sail from Arabia through that Pacific Ocean?

Surely the correct question is, “is there any evidence to support the history set out in the Book of Mormon?”. The answer to that is, “no.”.

Archaeologists always seem to be looking for horse bones that date back to the era of the book of mormon. They have never found equine bones that can be dated to that time. What's funny is this: If there were horses in America then, there would have been horses in America after the book of mormon days. Horses would have been utilized by other tribes. In other words horses, donkeys , sheep and goats would have been here in America before the Colombian exchange. The absence of equine entirely until the 16th century is another thing that might indicate the Book of mormon is fiction. Tell me what happened to the horses!

I had a coworker make fun of there being light and dark skinned people in the Book of Mormon, acting like that invalidated the Book of Mormon. I brought an older copy with a mural that was discovered in the Americas showing light and dark skinned people in the same picture. I naively hoped that he would want to learn more since I resolved his concern. He just never wanted to talk about it again. I'm surprised those pics weren't discussed in this video...

"We're going to completely ignore all the affirmative evidence in North America and go with the 'never mind that there's no affirmative evidence in Meso America, we're sticking with it.'"

NY, Hill Cumorah- wasn’t there a battle on the grounds? Why haven’t they found one shred of evidence?

Thank you for putting this video. I have a testimony of the Book and have a personal position about where its events occurred. No doubt there is more to be discovered. Having an open mind is definitely needed regardless of one's current views. There may yet come forth further discoveries that suggest its authenticity. A few suggestive things may not seem much, but the fact that so many details from the book have been attested should say something.

Heartland model matches up much better with the nephite timeline than mesoamerica. Not saying mesoamerica couldnt end up being correct its just there is absolutely more evidence at this point for the heartland than mesoamerica

The biggest difference I see with the Meso model people and the Heartlander people is, that the Meso people totally refuse to believe that the offspring of Lehi could have ever been in the heartland of the USA. That’s just ridiculous to me. I know I am no scholar, but logic says to me, that both models are at least partially true. Why not? The BOM talks about the north and the south lands. The Nephites and Lamanites split up and went their own ways. Who knows how far each went over the space of 2000 years. And I believe there is plenty of evidences of the Nephites culture in the Heartland theory. And there’s probably plenty of Lamanites evidence as well, if we only knew what exactly to look for. I really dislike the notion that there just isn’t any evidence, so just take it all on faith. Faith without works is dead, so are lots of things. I truly believe the evidence is out there. So open up your minds, get over this model or that theory, and get out there and look.

Check out Wayne May's Quick start to Comorah also. The link I sent you is a different author

When I was on my mission in Arizona I baptized a Professor at Masa community college What we did is we tracked it around? She read the book of Mormon in one day and was baptized. She became someone that worked in the temple and right then she knew when she had been going through some of the different temples that they use archaeology and things like that they were set up the same way that the temple is , and she testified and told me that for sure!

The Exodus is one event in the Bible. Many events and people have been archeologically confirmed. There's not one clear confirmation of any of the places, peoples, or events in the Book of Mormon. That's a big difference.

I still agree with the Heartland theory more. Joseph Smith spoke of traveling through the land of the Nephites, picking up the bones, etc? The Central American mayan temples don't correlate with Israelite temples. You need to talk to Wayne May, even interview him. Please get Wayne on your program!

So this video’s summary: There’s no proof this happened, but there can be, so it must be true. Also to possibly place the story on two continents is crazy. It’s as if someone claimed The Exodus could have happened in any part of Africa, Europe or Asia...

I'm a Heartlander.

The problem with parallels to the exodus is that those semitic slaves were nomadic and didn't build great civilizations; even the temple was just a temporary tabernacle. But we have discoveries of Hezekiah's tunnel, and the Cyrus cylinder, and remnants of the Temple. In the New Testament we have Herod's palace at Maritima, the pool of Bethesda, and important places like "the sea of galilee". The Book of Mormon has yet to match up even one artifact or region.

Soooo… The best argument in here is “We haven’t found Moses and the Israelites crossing the desert.”? Most consider Moses to be a legendary figure - similar to Odysseus. Meaning he maybe existed in some way, but probably not in this way. A significant portion of my Mormon friends are taking the BoM to be a story rather than history. More like a parable than anything else. Hopefully the church catches up.

I am a member of LDS, as joseph smith say no one can replace The Holy Bible indeed, but the book of mormon is another testament of God , it's up to us whether we believe or not, but the fact that the holy Bible and Book of mormon is helping for us to exercise our faith teach us to become a better person teaching a goodness of life ,and to see the art of God, but the most fact that you had to do is asked why don't we asked God and prayed for the answer, when the missionaries teach me about the book of mormon i never felt something wrong about that, they help me how the holy ghost work in your life if you are truly invite it and accept it into your heart you will never failed about salvation and endured to the end ,, you can win the everlasting life , when the missionaries😊 said to me why don't you asked God if our teaching is true ?" He can only give an answer" that is the fact that i made myself to believe. because there so many good things changed in my life. I improve myself a lot Beacause the Gospel of God help me to understanding everything, as for me The Holy Bible and the book of mormon is true because this is the word of God . It's only teaching for kindness , spread the Goodness and the light of God, this is for my opinion, i do respect the comments of others, but i want to spread the word in my heart. Only for goodness😊

Wherever you want to place the Book of Mormon geographically, we know that the hill Camorra is in New York. The same hill where Joseph found his magic plates. Why haven’t we found any artifacts from the massive battle of annihilation that was fought there??

Does anyone remember what challenging and insightful question I asked about the original upload?

Please show photos of mesoamerican Nephite temples with ramps. I only see stairs. Must be in the remaining 99%.

This makes me doubt the bom’s authenticity even more

Check out Wayne may heartland videos

They have. you heard of the Hopewell? The adena? Do you research Before you make a video like this

My theory: next door to Naria, west of Never Never Land.

When I did my master’s degree in divinity, people dropped out of our seminary because we were taught that there is zero physical evidence of the existence of Jesus. And that we do not know who wrote any of the books of the New Testament, it’s just scholars best guess. Other religions do not reply on “the spirit,” just facts, thus, the high rate of people who leave university level seminary (they call the spirit, “following your emotions, which are unreliable” they say). Personally, I’ve had countless experiences with the spirit testifying to me, so it didn’t waiver my faith, having “zero evidence of Jesus’ life” being taught.

The church doesn't have an official stance regarding where events took place because they DIDN'T HAPPEN. I've saved everyone 6 min and 19 seconds

There's plenty of archeological proof. It was named after the discoverer. Hopewell

3.26 so your asserting they had a identical material? That's a massive rescue device

They haven’t placed a city with a name but they have found evidence of the BoM & they will find more. Many people don’t know that & It would make more sense to them if they would read the BoM as American History instead of trying to be converted. If they want to be converted It’s by the power of Holy Ghost that converts people not the Missionaries. Their just out there to share the same Love the Lord gave to them & teach those that are interested. They do get a bad wrap.& some missionaries seem to be pushy. I personally don’t like others trying to convert me & telling me what to believe. I thought Joseph Smith was a con artist & brainwashed others from a book that he supposedly made up. It’s mind boggling how many members (16.5 million) of the Church there are being brainwashed if the BoM isn’t true. My parents are Converts before I was born but when I got older I heard stories from others & I didn’t want to be brainwashed. I did read the BoM & was always told it was true. I never felt it was until I gained my testimony 20yrs later & went back to Church after a life changing experience where God intervened. I about killed someone & didn’t like that feeling. I can’t remember the last time I prayed or held a BoM in my hands. After praying the book fell open & there underlined 3 Nephi 29-30 was the answer to my prayer & I felt the Lord take my contention away. I’ve always had anger problems growing up until 2005 when that was all taken away but now I live the Gospel to keep the Adversary at bay & I have witnessed his evil power. I was even diagnosed with severe depression & been hospitalized a few times. Now that’s been taken away from me also. No more Meds or seeing Therapists. The Lord is my Therapist & the Gospel are my Meds. I even was about to go to prison for seeing something that broke my heart but by staying strong in the Faith the Lord changed the Judge’s heart & I had witnesses. I have many more I could share but the Gospel is life changing & true but we do have members in sheep’s clothing & they make the Church look bad, along with others not of our Faith who challenges us. Even though I was away from the Church for 20yrs I never talked bad about the Church to condemn it to others because anyone can believe what they want & I have respect for others beliefs because I only focus on what’s best for me & everyone has to find what’s best for them instead of condemning one another. I just know with all my heart that the Lord sent me to The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints is the Church for me because the Book of Mormon saved my life & I know it’s true. Anyone can know the truth but to be truly converted one must have a true desire in their heart & don’t mock the Father while praying asking for a sign. You must ask for a change of heart to know if these things are true & start living it. It’s not easy to live the Gospel at times but it’s well worth it. I’ve heard stories of other congregations who preach from the BoM because of the power within & easier to understand but won’t tell their followers. I know people wants proof to believe by digging up the Hill Cumorah to find weapons of war but that takes away Faith. Sure you can dig it up & others will mock you in your findings saying it’s fake. You must first have a desire to read the BoM & pray with all your heart. It should be all the evidence that one needs to gain a testimony but if you want some evidence it dose talk about the narrow passage(Panama) & how would Joseph Smith know about that? Also the earthquake that changed the land & there’s evidence of that also. BoM also talks about Christ visiting the America’s & there is evidence of Him being here. After reading the BoM several times I get excited for all the evidence on the Internet that I find on Ancient American that most people scratch there heads wondering about but there will always be others saying there fake no matter what they find because they don’t want to rewrite history. I’ve seen artifacts with pictures on them that relate to the BoM & could be from the Jaredites but the finder has no clue what they are. I even heard a Aztec story that was on History Channel about this white guy that’s supposed to come back again some day that no one knows who He is. I’m like the little kid raising his hand hoping the teacher will pick me & I say that’s Jesus Christ. Also telling everyone the prof is in the BoM but some people can’t handle the truth or want to know because of being afraid to be converted & have to have a change of life. You don’t need to change your life if you believe in the BoM or have to go to Church but if you want to live it you’ll have to make sacrifices. It’s really about choice & everyone is welcomed to read the BoM. it’s best for others to find the truth for themselves. It breaks my heart when others say anything bad about the book that I cherish from a loving Heavenly Father. It’s the only material thing that means the most to me & I have no problem giving up my other worldly possessions but I will fight for the Book of Mormon. Amen

There are collectors with thousands of artifacts in their possession from said time period. What about the artifacts of great battles ? Look to our own European history. Very little remains of the great battles of the same time period that took place. Picked over by enemy scavengers, that prized metal weapons, armor, tools, clothing, etc..

When the Spaniards arrived at Northen Guatemala Peten at the lake ITZA is a city Island capital today. The Spaniards recorded that, there was a large stone with HEBREWS CHARACTERS. Also at northern Argentina is a tribe called COMESHINGONES, the Spaniards described that they were White blue eyes and large beard. Totally different of the rest of natives in this continent. There is a study in BOLIVIA, called: COMPARISON OF HEBREW WITH QUECHUA AND AYMARA the languages of the natives there.

So the finding of Lehi's house in Isreal isn't good enough?

Mormons defense to this. We don’t know anything and can’t prove anything but “here is how I felt” 😂😂😂😂

Awww man, the heartland theory needs a video for sure!

"Why hasn't there been any discoveries of BOH history?" "It's out there! They just haven't found it yet." Massive cope. With most of Christianity, you have to rely on faith. With Mormonism, you have to rely on faith and get rid of your common sense receptors.

I figured it out. The word Mormon is a mistranslation of the ancient Nephite word Marsmen. It took place on Mars!

Gimme a break.

I’m going with the heart land models. They have lots of evidence for that. There are many videos about it.

I LOVE he used the Exodus...newsflash dude, it DIDN'T happen

I believe we must study thoughtfully the findings that suggest the Book of Mormon's details were true. If we do so with a bias in mind even if the finds do suggest historicity, we won't acknowledge them because in our hearts we don't want it to be. It is not a matter of there not being evidence but an issue with the beholder. I suggest that even in other fields of history or science many "truths" that have been affirmed are still in reality very good possibilities. We weren't present when the past happened therefore it's still a matter of faith for many things. Also there surely will be more things to be discovered that we don't presently know. Thus, careful consideration should be given before anyone rejects anything.

I think you ought to have Wayne May on your show sometime. There is soooo much evidence. It isn’t recognized as evidence because it is found by people who haven’t read the Book of Mormon. 😉

One thing is to read Mormon theology from a certain point of view and another to understand archeologically that are not the same real cities and languages. Because Mayan language have evidence with known language of the present natives of Mayan ancestry. And since they can understand now how to read they can decode their ancient history and language.

I never thought of it like that. Great video

Watch Wayne May

Archeology catches up with scripture?!!! This is one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

It truly will be a great time when we have all of this archeological evidence for the Book of Mormon, it really will be very interesting. But, is it by archeological evidence that people will know that the Book of Mormon is truly a record of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? No, although, archeological evidence would certainly be a plus and have people be more open minded about it, but its by the Holy Spirit in how anyone will know that it is true. Does God want us to walk by what we can physically touch or hold? No, he wants us to walk by faith and by what the Holy Spirit reveals to us.

Wanted to tell you about a very interesting documentary I watched about Moses and the exodus. There is evidence that is very strong for the exodus, the problem is the timing. Everyone is looking in the Rames era which isn't where the evidence is from. If you look earlier there is very strong evidence for everything as presented in the Biblical story. Then there is real problem with calendars from Egypt which when taken into account we find how well the stories line up with archeology.

Sorry peps. BoM happened in America. This is the promised land. This is where the Hill Cumorah is. Where the New Jerusalem is. Where Adam-ondi-Ahman is. How many Hebrew or Egyptian would words are found in ancient Indian culture below the Rio Grand? Zero. How many above. Tons, IE Tennessee. Did the Mayan or Aztec build huge forts? No. But the Hopewell did. Is there a culture in Central America that started around 600 BC and ended around 400 AD? No. Well that’s just happens to be the exact time line of the Hopewell. Hmmmm. And when you went looking to share evidence of BoM you picked it happened in Central America? Oh my you guys need help.

There are all kinds of ancient artifacts with hebrewisms from America, which is owned by the Smithsonian, which is perhaps another reason why you shouldn’t swat down the Heartland model so quickly.

Thank you. I am dealing with so many people telling me I am worshipping the wrong Jesus. Any words or guidance?

“The vast majority of the Bible has not been archeologicaly proven to be true “ THAT is either honest ignorance or a plain lie, get an actual archeologist on the show and see if a statement like that would fly

The nephites built with wood not stone. If you read the book of Mormon it's clear it took place in North America. Jaredites and the nephites were both destroyed at the Hill cumorah. And the nephites are right next to that hill in the beginning of the book. The land of desolation.

Ask yourself this question: What would happen to the world if some sort of scientifically acceptable physical evidence came to light that categorically proved without a shadow of a doubt that in a historical context, the stories in the Book of Mormon happened exactly as they are written? The world is not yet ready for that event. That sort of evidence remains “slippery”.

magnificent explanation!

Wayne May has a few videos on RU-vid that provide evidence of Book of Mormon archeology

The problem I have with the Mesoamerican model is the only people who think it might have any validity are those from BYU. None of the other scientists give that idea any credence. When you look up North you find Hebrew artifacts, language, stories from the natives and much of the work being done is by people with NO ties to the church. They have found metals which are totally lacking in Mesoamerica. The biggest problem up North is that the scientific model was blocked by early Smithsonian leaders who said anything beyond beads and baskets are fraudulent. The North Amercian model overcomes many of the problems that are so difficult to find in Central America. Having said that, I do believe Christ appeared to those people--that doesn't make them Nephites. He also appeared in serval places around the world--Russia, Japan, Tibet to name just a few of those we know about.

You have not studied much of the archaeological finding in North America have you. EVERYTHING and I mean literally everything mentioned in the Book of Mormon has been found in the Midwest and upper United states, and even carbon dated to the same time line as the Nephites.

Because its bs

How can you use a quote like, "Truth is, we don't know squat," and then come around and say that you actually have all of the answers for what happened in ancient Mesoamerica? "We don't know squat," except that one dude up in New York found some golden tablets that have the entire story. Seems legit

I'm sorry... But hands down, the Heartland Theory is the only theory. I would lose my faith also after watching this tap dance... Y'ALL GO CHECK THE THE HEARTLAND THEORY... And Wayne May. Love you Wayne!

I really appreciate the honesty in this video. No evidence for the BoM, and no evidence for the Exodus either. So if you choose to embrace these stories, and that works for you, I'm happy for you. In the meantime, those of us who choose to follow the evidence will be over here waiting with open minds and not with believing hearts.

Brigham Young told the saints in St. George, UT that the Gadianton Robbers lived right there in the surrounding hills, yet you rarely hear about that. Shouldn't we be digging around there? I would imagine that robbers wouldn't be too neat and clean, so there's got to be stuff they left behind... New York or Central America would have been a long commute, so I really think we should concentrate our efforts there, around St. George. = )

“Zero!!!” Holes reference had me rolling

The Book of Mormon can only have taken place in one geographical location and one geographical location only and that area has contain at least all of the 5 following factors: 1. Settlements that are interconnected by several miles of causeways that the inhabitants traversed. 2. Remains of multiple large platforms and and massive ruins 3. Canals and reservoirs used for water collection for large scale agriculture 4. A Civilation that was integrated politically and economically 5. Heavily fortified sites that include high walls, moats, and watchtowers that serve as evidence for large-scale and systematic conflict/warfare And add that it has to be the area with the most of each of the 5 above details and the area least accesable and explored. The answer, thanks to modern LiDAR, is Meso-America. go ahead , google it. "LiDAR Meso-America and warfare and ruins

I’m a Heartlander for many reasons, but the biggest one is that Joseph Smith was one, by revelation. Oh, and the Book of Mormon clearly states it too. Nephi 13 is all about the colonization of North America, forefathers, and the war of independence. Nephi 22 talks about the Gentiles, raising a mighty nation on this land, not that land, this land. Is there a mighty nation in Mesoamerica, with the freedoms and liberties and Gentile populous that were described to Nephi? Besides, if Nephi lived in Mesoamerica, why would the Lord concern Nephi with a revelation of things that would take place in a land he and his descendants didn’t live in? I was raised on the Mesoamerican theory, but even as a young child, it didn’t make sense to me. Mesoamerica simply doesn’t have the geography described in the BOM or the political things that would happen in the land that the Lamanites lived in. Turns out the theory mostly came about when Chichen Itza was discovered, and the leaders of the church got excited about it. Joseph Smith was in jail at the time, and couldn’t refute their report in the Times and Season newspaper. And don’t even get me started on the illogical premise of two Hill Cumorahs. The book of Mormon took place in the Great Lakes area of the promised land that we know as a United States of America. A land of freedom, the land where the new Jerusalem has been revealed to be built, and where the gospel was restored. How could it be anywhere else?

Im somewhat confused. Is he saying that because we don’t evidence of the exodus (one part of the Bible, compared to the rest of the Bible were there is overwhelmingly a large amount of historical evidence) then we should apply that to the entirety of the Book of Mormon? The Book of Mormon is the foundation of the religion, and we can’t prove any of it… We can’t compare the exodus to the entire BoM. I feel like they say cleverly that there is no archaeological evidence but its still true with faith. That’s a hard and manipulative way of living… Its hard for me asleep, isn’t the BoM the most truest book and you can get closer to God than any other book? Shouldn’t there be proof, and just some, but at least a little? Also, which once? The BoM that was changed regarding race? (Would love an open dialogue)

Pretty sure a chariot wheel or wheels were found, they were gold plated, who else but Pharaoh would have this on his chariot?

It’s simple to differentiate Mayan from Book of Mormon people sites. The Mayan people had no metal tools or weapons. According to the Book of Mormon, ancient Mormon people had swords, shields and metal armor. They had chariots. So when archeologists find metal buried in Mesoamérica it will at least begin to give some sort of credibility to the Book of Mormon. None have been found yet.