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Playing as a native in EU4 is typically looked down upon but it's actually some of the most fun playthroughs out there. There are unique mechanics, unique governments and mildly hidden formable nations that are found through native mechanics and tribal cohesion - much more interesting than simply conquering provinces. In any case, today, I play as the Iroquois in order to repel the Colonisers!
Why have I never done this before?
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@TheSocialStreamers Год назад

Damn, this is crazy, you can become a CHANNEL MEMBER now, who knew? - ru-vid.com/show-UCoIlFkPDq7paFeujY5J-q7gjoin

@emirsahin9102 Год назад

If you do the tribal horde (pls do) it'd be great if you chose cahokia to be your capitol

@Bonemiath Год назад

Joke's on you - I'm not even subscribed. ONLY because you demanded (jokingly) that I be banned for making a pun during the Masters of the Universalis tournament!!!!!!111111 Maybe some day!

@maxvanbroekhoven2308 Год назад

what patch did you play this time? the map shouldn't be grey should it?

@emirsahin9102 Год назад

@@maxvanbroekhoven2308 He might've disabled terrain with a mod or maybe its a built-in setting

@thelegendarybreadbuttera.4136 Год назад

@@emirsahin9102 I agree! native tribal horde sounds amazing, extra plus to invade the top European power to gain access to the wealth of Europe

@ianmiller8399 Год назад

The Cherokee are migratory and have good ideas and have their own missions so you could use them to create a horde.

@azh698 Месяц назад

They also have a nice achievement you can get.

@Harl3inger Год назад

Watching Laith trying to figure out tribal development was both funny and a bit maddening. Admittedly, I only knew how to do it because Spiffing Brit did a video cheesing it early on.

@nevets2371 Год назад

Lol same

@holey5065 Год назад

I only know it bcuz i played as a adventurer band in castanor in Anbennar

@serene_ladyred8803 Год назад

@@holey5065 this

@AlphaDaxter1 Год назад

what spiffing brit video did you learn it from

@sokyu7723 Год назад

I’ve played hours upon hours of natives and it was kinda fun tbh

@purin6792 Год назад

It’s kind of sad that viewership declines when you don’t play in Europe because I think not playing in Europe is actually quite fun.

@jamesmorris8321 Год назад

For real. Most of the time I'm not playing in Europe.

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

Playing outside of Europe means that you get to fight the strong nations later making the late game way better. If you start in Europe you have probably taken out at least 2 by 1500.

@devgunaratne9500 Год назад

Playing in Europe is also way more RNG and slow

@joshuabanner3675 Год назад

Plus, something crazy always happens in Europe while you are away. Mameluks taking over Rome kinda crazy.

@huginmunin8253 Год назад

Europe is fun. But i think all continents have its charm, to me there is no real boring continent just some boring countries.

@3044Smike Год назад

I kind of find it hilarious that you start as the Onendaga (historically the most diplomatically inclined of the Haudenosaunee) and immediately started trying to conquer your neighbors.

@89Crono Год назад

I've played a number of Onendaga games. If you don't pull off a couple of early conquests to expand you're basically screwed. You're federation almost always has 1 or 2 members that are allied to your rivals, and if you don't take care of them soon it makes the diplo game a pain.

@AcornFox 5 месяцев назад

i mean, its an historical sandbox game. you could RP as first nations but that would be masochistic to say the least lol

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

The Iroquois is in my top 5 nations. They have great ideas and a challenging start.

@HDTomo Год назад

Bout to leave for sleep, making this comment so it dosen’t wreck your analytics

@FriendofOnas Год назад

I'd say top six

@cgopop Год назад

The three sisters were the name for the crops the Iroquois grew in polyculture. They would grown corn, bean and squash together. The three plants used different nutrients in the soil and grew in a way that supported each other physically. It was a very effective agricultural system. More resistant to blight and over farmed soil than European monocultures.

@Supermegamanuel01 Год назад

Europeans did not practice monoculture at this time, monoculture is pretty much a product of the industrial revolution

@greatmightypanda Год назад

@@Supermegamanuel01 Europeans did use crop rotations though, not the kind of polyculture described by the three sisters. They would grow different crops in the same fields through the year but not simultaneously and together in the way the Iroquois did. You are right though that the main benefit of monocultures is that it makes mechanised farming easier and so was unnecessary prior to the industrial revolution. Modern crop rotation techniques that are being developed now are actually inspired by the three sisters to balance the benefits of monoculture with soil preservation.

@sebebs1186 Год назад

I only know these mechanics because of the Anbennar mod, highly recommend playing as adventurers in Escann

@HDTomo Год назад

Bout to leave for sleep, making this comment so it dosen’t wreck your analytics

@thepunisher4356 Год назад

Damn I legit had the same experience, learned the mechanics the same way. Escann is a super fun region to play in.

@dialectish Год назад

Exactly the same for me.

@Sigskogi Год назад

Exactly the same 😂 Adenica won't form itself after all

@trivane626 Год назад

same and i thought laith knew how to play eu4

@goksir5845 Год назад

Whenever Tribal Development (as shown in your native screen) reaches above 1 in any category, your capital gets 1 development in that same category. When you settle land, it removes this from your capital and puts it into the new province and colonizes it. The best way to aquire more Tribal Development is to build the associated building. EDIT: well shit, in any case it doesn't seem like you understood the entire thing in this detail so i'll leave the comment up o - o

@Galaron100 Год назад

One important thing it's that if you time it right, you can settle several lands using fewer Tribal Development: you just need 1 of ANY category, so as soon as you get 1.00 in MIL Tribal Development, you can settle 1 province, then 1.00 in DIP settle another and 1.00 ADM a new province. If you take too long and they catch up and you have 1 in each, you will use up the 3 Tribal Development and settle only 1 province (like Laith made all game and it's awful and it pains me).

@Molomar1 Год назад

SHAME 🔔 SHAME 🔔 SHAME 🔔

@SimpyOnThat Год назад

Shame on you

@spyfurit8270 Год назад

Shame

@serax126 Год назад

shame

@cheflije Год назад

This was surprisingly entertaining. Would love to see an invasion of England, and a native horde game would be fantastic to see!

@saraywavesks Год назад

The natives colonising the English sounds like a cool idea😂😂

@mranything01 Год назад

Tribal Natives are really fun, they were actually broken when first added due to the amount of tribal development you can gain and then settle rapidly or having like 40 dev capitals XD. For the horde, it is a challenge because you need to stay as a single province but you can still take tribal land to ensure when you become a horde, you settle all those lands. If you do continue this video, don't forgot about your religion! Totemist is broken because if you get rulers with the same trait, when they die, you get to add it again (meaning you can easily stack high discipline or morale!).

@TheJonnyjoh Год назад

Get only scholars and get up to 80% reduction in Tech-cost. Iroquois Space Marines incoming xD

@h0ndesohn708 Год назад

I love the Iroquois, theyre really fun. You also get Native Ideas which are the best in game imo

@HDTomo Год назад

Bout to leave for sleep, making this comment so it dosen’t wreck your analytics

@h0ndesohn708 Год назад

@@HDTomo what is sleep 🫡

@volpelastname6951 Год назад

@@HDTomo G we got it, you could've left a single comment under the main video and it would've had the exact same effect on the analytics as replying to 50 people

@harrysimonthepooper Год назад

Native Tribal Horde? YES PLEASE

@Brakiros Год назад

also Native Tribal Horde World Conquest is possible since you can invade from three directions

@lawn_moa Год назад

Having the capital as Cahokia would be the cherry on top.

@zenothemeano4381 Год назад

@@Brakiros Native world conquest is unironically the hardest start imaginable... Even harder than ryukyu, that's why it must be done...

@bytoadynolastname6149 Год назад

Poland Can Into Space, and No Trail of Tears are I believe the only 2 times I've ever gotten to 1821.

@jamesnewman5204 Год назад

As someone who lives near by the great lakes. I really wish eu4 had river and lake combat for navies

@kibbo86 Год назад

Absolutely vital for the US Revolutionary war and 1812.

@hiltonman21 Год назад

My favorite first nation to make into an unstoppable horde is Navajo you basically start with one of the best monuments in the game everything around you can become a gold province and if you go south you can grab the insane gold monument in North Mexico

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

26:50 you absolutely can. I once controlled all of north America without going to war by repeatedly creating new federations. Absolutely overpowered once you have enough Diplo rep to get everyone to join.

@ianmiller8399 Год назад

They removed that in the last patch. The ability to form a federation nation after you already have formed one.

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

@@ianmiller8399:(

@delphidelion Год назад

Natives are usually one of my go to. I like to run as the Apache.

@timbryo Год назад

The Three Sisters are corn, beans, and squash. When planted together, they keep the soil from being drained of nutrients and provide one another with other aids to survival.

@MyTomServo Год назад

The admin, diplo, and mil symbol beneath your tribal federation bar is your tribal development. When you have 1 of each you can settle tribal land. If you don't settle it is added to your capitol province's dev as development points.

@MyTomServo Год назад

It seems you sort of figured it out eventually lol. See I watched everything. I just commented fast.

@TheSocialStreamers Год назад

POINT AND LAUGH (but thanks)

@sessmurda Год назад

Its one of any, not one of each. But yeah you got it. It gets spread throughout your newly settled tribal land.

@faishalhakim4046 Год назад

Next you probably should go for No Trail of Tears achievement as Cherokee

@lukekennedy8588 Год назад

Laith I'm late by a few days but just want to say the start where you play for time while just reading out what we can already read because you were unprepared was genuinely hilarious and I loved it. Perfectly encapsulates why you're the best EU4 content creator imo.

@herzogwidukind5065 Год назад

What got me to play EU4 was a RU-vid series of someone playing Iroquois 7 years ago, so I really enjoy seeing you give it a shot! Brings back good memories.

@Imhip248 Год назад

I love playing as the natives, it’s genuinely the most fun I have in the game.

@terredomini7703 Год назад

One thing to note when you want to go the migratory tribe route in another playthrough: The Humiliate casus belli (not humiliate rival) also has the option of doing show strengths. Also, you can even declare on federation members as soon as they all join in offensive wars, and members will not leave your federation when you attack them (if I remember correctly). Therefore you'll basically swim in points and can finish the first idea groups in no time (and indigeneous ideas are great to reach the last reform quicker).

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

For a native horde I would love to see a semi historical one in South America.

@Yuhyuhmuhmuh Год назад

Bro your username is your actual name, you should change it

@notme8232 Год назад

He should do Comanche, which historically were essentially New World Mongols

@Kishinzz Год назад

One of the East of South America could be interesting! Like Tupiniquim or Guarani.

@andrewgreenwood9068 Год назад

@@Yuhyuhmuhmuh why. I really can't be bothered to.

@volpelastname6951 Год назад

@@Yuhyuhmuhmuh Do you think he has an extremely unique name? there are thousands upon thousands of Andrews and I'm certain there are quite a few with the same last name. Don't be weird bro.

@zacharypierce2587 Год назад

I'm muskogee and find myself going to play the creek from time to time, im just glad my tribe is in the game and playable.

@fxailing1201 Год назад

Late night laith on a school night is lovely

@TungstenArm Год назад

You should absolutely continue this run! Would love to see you keep expanding and maybe make some noise in Europe as the Iroquois

@innocentqwa4630 Год назад

8:30 I can't wait for him to realize you can take tribal land from other natives in war and blob out to no end.

@sessmurda Год назад

I've done a world conquest as Quizquiz using the tribe mechanic. Its actually really fun campaign early on. You can't expand more than one province, but can take tribal land. Still strategy early on is largely the same, using the vassal swarm tactic to make a strong base before taking the horde reform. Since the settled tribes have so much more reform progress, it is easier to start as a settled one, wage humiliation/money wars until you can go migratory while having a single province, then flip migratory and expand hard, getting border with Mexico ideally. That way you can start conquering Mexico as a horde. Also when doing the go wide native strategy, the reform progress building is the way to go nowadays since the tribal dev nerf. That is the only resource that carries over effectively. You can easily stack up enough reform progress to complete the theocracy tree, which along with Indigenous ideas lets you max warscore cost reduction at -100% vs non Totemists in the Age of Absolutism.

@thatguy3421 Год назад

Horses originated in the Great Plains before migrating across the Bering Straits and getting hunted to extinction by the natives once they arrived.

@thepopulationofkazakhstan1116 Год назад

Imagine forming a federation with a Fr*nch name

@Kasaaz Год назад

Learning: The Three Sisters are Corn, Squash and Beans. If you grow them together, the corn provides a framework for the beans. The beans provide extra potassium or something in the soil for the Squash and the Squash provides better ground cover to prevent evaporation. They grow very well together, except Europeans were like, "YER DOIN FARMIN WRGON!" and want them to change.

@existential_sad_boi Год назад

Dude you are one of the only reasons I figured out how to play Vicky 3; literally the best content creator im subbed to. Europe be damned, iroquois supremacy!

@KArchine Год назад

Improve relations also affects the decay rate of AE. So it can be helpful in slowing down coalitions

@denisklemont2540 Год назад

I wish so much to see you continue this!

@sirgreyspear Год назад

The tribal horde video idea sounds awesome, definitely make that

@williampavlik9734 Год назад

You need a dlc to get rid of bad kings and queens. I dont have that dlc. Its a pain without it

@wilkic2 Год назад

Play republics and theocracies instead

@bascianowatches9531 Год назад

I’ve been waiting for this forever!!! Thankyou laity!

@theblahj Год назад

As someone who was born in Westsylvania I am very offended.

@whitebread. Год назад

I've seen people post about the troop selection and deselection thing not working sometimes. If I remember correctly, it ended up being caused by a skill issue. Love the vid! Definitely do that native hoard idea, sounds fun!

@xanthman7528 Год назад

the thing with tribal dev is that it is extra dev which goes to your capital, you spend it to settle. edit: nvm laith figured it out

@tomd9323 Год назад

I've had a lot of fun with the tribal starts, nice to see it being done properly!

@jeffreywitty3088 Год назад

As a Canadian, this is the formation of the "Six Nations", the peoples of the "great lakes region". Which, of all "north" and "non-extant" groups, are considered the most socially complex (mainly due to their VAST farming projects, which dwarfed many European "era contemporizes").

@WallyJ40 Год назад

Yo I live in Onondaga county in NY - I'm pumped on this! Keep it up

@TwoKnowingRavens Год назад

Onondaga ( On-on-dog-ah) - Skenne go'wega! Hello from Onondaga nation! (When referenced traditionally and separately from the Haudenosunee (Iroquois) - often said as Onondago geh'ga (Which is "The People of the Hills")

@SebCraftGaming Год назад

Yo I don't get why people usually do not watch EU4 native games, and neither why the ones who do it normally doesn't watch all of it. I am a huge native enjoyer and love the pretty different playstyle you adapt, as well as the knowledge advantage you gain from it. The native mechanic also helps you a lot when playing Australian natives. Though many describe playing Australian native as "watching paint dry", I also enjoy playing Australia and watch videos with others that play them as well. I am glad to see you enjoy playing them and look forward to the next video with Iroquois :)

@hipsterjustice Год назад

native mechanics sometimes feel like a completely different game

@dummy524 Год назад

I literally stay up to watch these 😂 I have a problem ( I don’t comment much but these videos genuinely make my day better get it coming laith)

@NominatusLP Год назад

uploading in the middle of the night :D very nice video i would like to see a part 2 of this. also i would like to see an aztec video somewhen 😊

@Java_Jive_ Год назад

Be a native tribal horde as the Comanche. That would offer a level of historical rp

@airkid6160 Год назад

"I make friends by burning down their house" that explains the bin burning thing you did back in the day

@SupahTrunks7 Год назад

Love seeing you play in North America! Definitely hope we see more of this run

@h3r3t1c3 Год назад

Playing outside Europe is always interesting, can't wait for the tribal horde vid!

@bert3241 Год назад

Can't wait to see the next vid!

@BoomerLover420 Год назад

Wow what a great video. I watched the entire thing in 17 seconds.

@diestormlie Год назад

I would love for you to continue this one. And then, HORDE!

@iddoboomgaard353 Год назад

"They're cheap as chips and chips are pretty chea.. Well not in this current economy, I'm afraid, but ordinarily chips are pretty cheap indeed." Never has Laith sounded this British.

@hugohenker111 Год назад

the horde idea sounds great, would love to see that

@Minnator Год назад

I love to see that someone tries the NW nations It's weird at the beginning, but once u get used to it it is quite nice. Also would you play a mod where every province in europe is the same size in form of a Hexagon? I would love to see you play it

@joshuabuchanan9712 Год назад

Love this kind of video bro! Thanks for risking the viewship i how my comment helps the algorithm

@worldboxvn8214 Год назад

This is the only video i have no idea what the heck is happening but i still watch till the end

@TempusWasTaken Год назад

I want to see the real Tribal Horde.

@sennekgames3831 Год назад

I didn't watch the whole video but it pained me looking at the Tribal Dev/Federation menu and having Laith still ask about normal dev

@yoldmate5450 Год назад

stunning stuff love it

@rippedgnome3985 Год назад

I quite enjoy playing these more obscure nations. Idk why but I just find it fascinating.

@rhoetusochten4211 Год назад

Pretty cool, I might have to revisit mu EU IV. I have Seneca ancestors (emphasis is on the third syllable) and I live just south of Onondaga lands. So, I quite enjoyed your video. As a historical aside, the Iroquois (Haudenosaunnee) were a "proto-empire" before the Europeans showed up, so you weren't too far off on your play style, except they went north and west and were rivals of the Huron.

@trigenderpyrofox1383 Год назад

Playing Anbennar is the only reason I know how the fucking painful tribal dev system works, watching this pain is cathartic

@imaxinsertnounherex Год назад

I absolutely want to see a native great planes horde video.

@FluidRomulus Год назад

I really liked this video!

@nogoodnamesleft_ Год назад

I would love to see a reverse colonization continuation of this video! and a great plains horde campaign

@qinntt Год назад

Seeing you open the tribal dev menu so many times hurt me internally

@mr.mcdizzy6336 Год назад

I played as a native nation on my first time playing after skipping the tutorial and never having played strategy games. Went as well as you’d think

@aelianaevergreen8955 Год назад

Love to see this!

@kam...... Год назад

Tecumseh is spinning in his grave with that hawkish early game.

@rsabinioan Год назад

Sometimes I worry about your sleep schedule as you keep posting at like 2-3AM in the morning, I mean yeah I’m watching this video at 3am but that’s because a good night Laith video has become a tradition by now

@j1r2000 Год назад

tribal land grows over time and is automatically placed on your capital settling moves some of the development on to the other provence from your capital to gain tribal land you need to build buildings be migratory or have the reforms for it

@denniskylling3887 Год назад

I have been playing a lot of natives since Leviathan came out, and if you want another fun natuve playthrough you should check the cherokee out. Descent missions, great ideas and really good gov for natives. (I have a lot of knowledge about the tribes) If you decide to do any migratory tribe, try to be -2 stab, since it's the best for it, less migration cost, and better than -3 since -3 means no wars

@quadcannon Год назад

Reverse Card the Colonizers! That would be great fun to watch.

@ChrissieBear Год назад

As a totemist you want to put your leader in charge of armies and get them killed. Because you can then set them as ancestors in the religion screen and get their trait as a permanent buff. Also, since tribes have low land force limit you can drill for professionalism really easily.

@duskpede5146 Год назад

its meja vu, when the familiar becomes unfamiliar

@hashtagrex Год назад

24:10 that mechanic is how you can do ridiculous things like become a byzantine horde, as releasing and playing as a nation from an existing horde gives you tribal reforms

@tuxedoninja2365 Год назад

I want to see the native horde sounds like a blast

@Spartan12 Год назад

Looking forward to this

@davidwilliams7552 Год назад

Iroquois is so much fun have played them many times! One of the best natives for sure.

@tigrecito48 Год назад

my recent playthru as nusantara or however its spelled i forget.. england took out all of france.. ive never seen that happen in 3000 hours

@shaketin Год назад

I’ve been looking for the answer to the settle thing for so long. I wish there was a tutorial for it but hey this works lol

@nathanhaywood273 Год назад

Native tribal horde video yes!

@nedaraid3372 Год назад

Finally, a video outside of France!

@juanmendez3290 Год назад

the native horde sounds so cool

@hkoe33 Год назад

yay i waited for you to do this for a long time try horde blackfoot

@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel Год назад

I really hope this reaches the like goal, love to see more non European stuff

@nothinbettertodo1163 Год назад

I definitely think that you should do a super-capital horde

@Gustav_Kuriga Год назад

You could select your own land because your own land was inside their tribal land. Core land and tribal land are completely separate mechanics.

@garretaustin9338 6 месяцев назад

i woul love the tribal horde game might try it my self

@LadyLuckV Год назад

Only reason I knew how tribal dev worked is because of Anbennar.

@leeroyo Год назад

Show me a Australian native WC and ill click every video and watch every second of them.

@tigrecito48 Год назад

7:11 build irrigation first in all provinces and secondly longhouses.. thirdly ceremonial fire pit (i think only one can be built?) if you do this u will be a superpower in no time.. all other buildings are worthless compared...