It's just chocolate vs vanilla or iPhone vs Samsung. Different personalities will gravitate toward different solutions for the same problem. Got no time for "if you don't buy/use/like xyz brand, then you're wrong" types.
I had an Ioniq 5 for a weekend. I felt it was cheaper all over. The throttle and steering response was numb. A lot of beeping sounds for everything. Navigation was sluggish. I own a Model Y and look at that as an SUV with emphasis on sport and I like that. Ioniq 5 reminds me of other Kia/Hyundai cars. Bland and simple. A car for older people.
Around double the speed actually. Plus Tesla has actually not the more advanced battery nor has it been doing it for longer. Asia market has had EV for a lot really really lot longer than western countries and a lot of experience and knowledge in such tech and it now starts to show as some of those companies start to move into our markets. BYDs battery system or Nio with its advanced FSD and 620mile battery are just a small glimpse
Selling my I5 to replace it with MY. Cargo space is too small for us. Can slide bench forward, but that limits passenger space too much. Will miss the Regen shifters, but could get the S3XY Buttons instead.
As per typical online reviews, this Ioniq 5 is a top model trim. The SE trim long range battery is the bargain EV to buy. I did. Cloth heated seats, all safety features, voice control for many items, same ultra fast charging rate, etc.AND as a RWD model, the most efficient closely matching the Y’s 280 range from full to minus 10 miles, dead battery. I liked the looks, the price, August 2022, and having the dash in front vs centered, a style I liked, that was it. Thanks.
This is such a useful and insightful video. I'm a fan of Tesla but I'd go Ioniq 5 on exterior styling, interior looks, useful tech (blind view monitors, leveled auto temp, V2L, HEADS UP DISPLAY etc.), PANAROMIC ROOF WITH SUN SHADES (you get baked in the Tesla), cooled seats, MORE COMFORTABLE RIDE, less road noise vs Tesla, superior fit and finish of the Ioniq and excellent warranty. The charging network is improving quickly and 10~80% charge in 18 minutes is the fastest in the non-Supercharger network. Actually waiting to see what the Genesis GV70 Electrified SUV is going to drive like..
What really bothered me the hours I drove the Ioniq 5, and I knew would really bother me if I ever owned one, was that you can adjust the regen, but it cannot remember the 1-pedal driving mode. Everything else, sure, but you have to activate that every time. I did love that it had just flippers on each side to adjust it though, but like most of the things I liked on the Ioniq 5, they just missed the mark with things like that. The ventilated seats worked really, really great. Only tested in cold climates though, so might be why they were so insanely effective (below freezing outside). Again, they missed the mark though. They have a big physical button for heated and ventilated seats, called "warmer". So you have to press the physical button, at the bottom of all the buttons, then move your hand and attention up to the screen. Now, if you do not want the heater or the ventilation in the seats to be at max, you have to press down (for cold) or up (for warm) and then move your hands and attention again. This time you have to press the opposite of what you just pressed. So to get to medium heating you press a physical button, move your hand up like 40 cm, or 1 1/3 feet up the screen and press up. Then you move your hand again, down a couple of inches to press down. WHY? Why have buttons at all if you still have to use the screen? The wired Android Auto/Apple CarPlay also bothered me. It connects with a cable to the USB at the bottom, near your right leg. I will definetivly hook it while driving. It also kind of defeats the point of the open space in front of the center console. Now, I find that you HAVE to use Android Auto or Apple CarPlay in the car if you want to navigate or use media. The map was worse than useless. How does a car manufacturer make a map function in a new car that is worse than a 2010 BMW or Audi? Zoom out and you do not see the small roads, which makes it impossible to navigate. Zoom in and you have to know the roads very well to know where you are. And then it takes forever to drag around. Also, while dragging around, not being centered on the car, the map will just randomly change orientation, because it thinks that the car, that stands still, changed direction. Super, super confusing. Going into media controls also takes one physical button and then you have to chose which source on the screen. Like, the car has one button for navigation and for for map. They are the same thing! Why, oh why, can't it have one of them be for sources and the other for radio? Everything took so many god damn button presses in the car. The only thing that was more accessible was driving mode and climate controls (except heated and ventilated seats, which is done extremly poorly). Driving mode is nice, but I hardly ever change the climate controls in a car. I only change it if someone else has adjusted it. And from what I have heard, Tesla remembers how you prefer the air to blow and such. So, I don't really need buttons for it. Another thing that bothered me with the Ioniq 5, is that the Head Up Display was way worse than in the ID4. I could see the HUD, but barely, with my sunglasses in the ID4, but not at all with in the Ioniq 5. WHich would have been okay if I could see my speed in the screen in front of the wheel. Which I can't. I have to move my whole body or adjust the steering wheel into a very unconfortable position. I have never been in a car where my speed has been that blocked before. Much, much easier in the Model Y. Never a problem. Asians, on average, don't have the height of western people. That might be the reason. I have seen others that have sold their cars for the same reasons. Neither the Model Y or the Ioniq 5 was washers for their head lights. HOWEVER, the Ioniq 5s headlights are level with the front, and not on the top. You could not see the headlights at all because of dirt when I drove the car. Salt, slush, mud and snow, that is during smelting weather and such in Norway, will make this a car that doesn't do that well for night driving. Did not have that problem when I tested the Model Y. Other deciding factors for why I didn't go for the Ioniq 5, is that you do not know if they will give the OTA updates they say they will. The cargo space is much, much less than in the Model Y. Even with moving the seats, it was still smaller. Then you are missing the well beneath the trunk and the frunk as well. The Ioniq 5 does not pre-heat the batteries at the moment if you go to a supercharger. Not a deal breaker, and they say they will make it happen at some point. That, however, requires the use of their map. As I have said, I have never, ever, had to use such a piece of garbage. The car CANNOT plan a long trip with charging either. With 80% battery, it told me to get to the nearest charger, when I plotted in a longer trip on the navigation. It didn't show me the rest of the route and just had me find a charger. Useless. Cannot be used for anything at all. Compare that to the Model Y and the ID4. The Ioniq 5 also costs the same as the Model Y here in Norway, if you want the same trim. Service costs more and Tesla gives better loan deals. So cost of ownership is a lot more for the Hyundai. Oh yeah, the range is better in the Model Y as well. Real life range, before the bigger batteries for the 2022 model, is around 52 miles. Now, with the larger battery that is shipped now, we are probably talking a real life range that is 70 miles better than the Ioniq 5. There are things to love with the car though. The front seats have leg support! How neat is that! Probably does wonders on longer trips. The huge open space feels nice, though it mostly makes the car feel like a VW Transporter, or another kind of van. It also removes a lot of storage in front (now, most cars do not have the huge amount of space the Model Y has). The sun roof shader is nicely done and is something that would have been nice in the Model Y. The back seats are probably the best designed ones in almost any car. Being able to move them forwards and recline like is so useful and comfortable for passengers. So if you are a passenger, then the Ioniq 5 would probably win out. Ventilated seats are also nice, but not something I have to have. Especially since I can pre-cool the cabin. The ventilated seats would save energy though. The full power outlet, that lets you use household appliances is just a nice touch. That is probably the feature I would have wanted most for the Model Y. The ride is also a bit smoother in the Ioniq 5, but not as smooth as in the ID4. So it it somewhere between. Now. I have only test driven the Ioniq 5 for a couple of hours and the Model Y for around 12 hours. Before testing them, I thought I would go for the Ioniq 5. It just didn't live up to my expectations the same way the Model Y did. So many small, daily frustrations that I wouldn't like at all, as well as it just having a lot less cargo space. It does look a lot better than the Model Y as well, which is probably why I thought it would be the car I would choose. Many of the things I hate with the car, doesn't bother others at all. There are however "many" people that have sold their cars, or ended up not buying it because they can't see the speed when driving. Recommend everyone to test the car before deciding.
Trying to decide between ID4 Pro S and Ioniq Limited. It's about $5-6K more for the Ioniq in the US. I'm leaning toward ID4, but I have not driven any of these cars. What would you recommend? Model Y is over $60K here and out of my price range with no tax rebate.
@@zeethree Not sure what is standard for The ID4 Pro S, so my thoughts might not be totally accurate. When it comes to storage, they are about the same, but the Ioniq 5s trunk has a bit less height near the back (because of a stronger slope) This might be a problem when it comes to dog cages and such. The Ioniq 5 can however move the backseats forward (Why don't more cars have this feature?), which makes it so you can fit more in the back if you want to. The frunk is so small in the Ioniq 5 that it can only hold your charging cable, and nothing more. The ID4 has no space there at all. The seats in the Ioniq 5 are better. You get ventilated seats and leg support. The open space makes it so you can stretch out your right leg from time to time. If you regularly have five people in the car, being able to move the center console forward is also a huge pluss. You can adjust the regen on the Ioniq 5, while the ID4 only has with or without regen. However, the Ioniq 5 does not remember 1-pedal driving and it has to be activated every time you start driving. You also have to manually start the Ioniq 5 with a button (I think, but I might be wrong) while the ID4 has a start button, but you do not have to use it. The ID4 rides more smoothly. You do not feel the road as much and it isn't nearly as stiff as the Ioniq 5. I also found the ID4 to be more quiet. The Ioniq 5 is however much sportier. It feels like a smaller car than what it actually is and has a faster 0-60 (100). The front lights on the ID4 are placed much better when it comes to grime from the road. Neither of the car have washers for their headlights, but the lights on the Ioniq 5 are placed much worse when it comes to dirt. The head up display in the ID4 was much clearer and brighter than the Ioniq 5. Which means there is a higher probability you can see it with sunglasses. The screen in front of you is also much better placed in the ID4. Granted, it isn't as pretty, but you can see your speed much clearer. It also shows you navigation info, if I remember correctly. I do however know that the Ioniq 5 does not show navigation in the screen, only in the HUD. The ID4 has wireless android auto and carplay, instead of cabled. The navigation worked really well, and it showed the nearest rest stops on your route, in case you want to stop to eat or get a snack. Loved that feature. It also planned charging, which the Ioniq 5 did not. The Ioniq 5 charges a lot faster though, and if it gets the update to pre-heat the batteries, then it will "out-charge" most other EVs. That does not help if you have to use that god-awful map though. I seriously do not know how they can ship that with a car. It is impressively bad. The ID4 also has short-cuts to regulate your heated seats. Use two fingers on the climate controls to tap the different setting. Instead of using both buttons and screen to get to where you want to. Navigating media is also better in the ID4. The Ioniq 5 just requires to many button and screen presses for every little thing. So now it all comes down to what you prefer. The ID4 is more of a standard family car and it feels like any VW product. It drives and acts like a ICE car and the largest draw back is that it lacks one pedal driving (in my opinion). The Ioniq 5 looks better, has better seats, but have menues that feel outdated and maps that are totally useless. CarPlay requires a cable which removes any benefit of the open space the car gives. Do note that on the Skoda Enyaq, some people have complained that android auto stopped working on longer trips. Might be because the phone gets hot while charging. Have that in mind for the ID4 as well, since they use the same system. So it all comes down to what you prefer. Personally, I liked the ID4 better. If only for the navigation and the fact that I didn't have to push 2-5 buttons more for every single thing I wanted to do on the screen. If I was going to be a passenger, then I think the Ioniq 5 would win. For longer commutes it is probably a draw. Better seats vs better ride comfort and less noise.
@@Gjeebs the nema 14-50 appears to be the female outlet from the 240 power source. I was thinking about the unit that connects to the car. Eg grizzle level 2 charger or a competitor??
I would choose Ioniq 5 because it is more practical. I want to have an option to go to Ikea or Costco and load items for everyday living. I just subscribed because I like your sense of humor.
@@Gjeebs 1. Ioniq 5 has a traditional dashboard so I do not have to take my eyes off the road. 2. Ioniq 5 is made by a traditional carmaker. 3. I can either charge at home or use DC combo charging stations established by governments 4. Loading items at stores without worrying about my image (there is a certain image to driving a Tesla EV) 5. If Tesla broke down I would not know where to get it fixed since there are no dealerships I am going to assume no Tesla dedicated auto shops. Hyundai has a warranty (100,000 miles/10 years) 6. Tesla relies too much on software and is too futuristic without "infrastructures" to support it. 7. The CEO of Tesla is doing too many projects and I do not know if the company can sustain itself 5 or 10 years later. The list can go on but I think the referenced reasons are reason enough for me to say Ioniq 5 is more practical.
“You live in Hot places, Florida,Texas, Arizona and then you say Southern California? 😮lol.. Southern Cali ain’t no where close on being hot as those other states!!
Tesla has better charging stations but Ioniq 5 charges a bit faster. I wish Hyundai adapts Tesla software update features. For regen tech, I think BMW i4 nailed it. Ioniq 5 is a better car than Tesla for the price you pay (without greedy dealer's mark-up cost).
One small detail but one I really appreciate is how the Ioniq 5's DOOR HANDLES automatically pop out when you approach the vehicle. I believe you have to go through the press and pull on the Tesla if I'm not mistaken. It's the small details in the Ioniq that add up and make it such an appealing package for me..
@gjeebs can’t afford model y. Want to switch electric within the next 2 months. Would you buy hyuandai ioniq 5 (se) not awd, Tesla model 3 used, or mustang Mach e
Using a better route planner either in Android auto or Apple carplay is a better experience than the Tesla navigation adding a $20 Bluetooth dongle. It routes you to the high speed chargers and you can add preferences for specific networks or charging speeds I have only been to two electrify America stations that do not have 800 volt charging.
At 65K Only thing I wish for the Y is vented seats. And a screen that opens and closes the pano roof. alcantara on the gray fabric sides and to be greedy HUD
Hi Gjeebs, In the 2nd row.. Can 3 people sit comfortably? The width of Lexus Nx and Ioniq5 are similar.. We had Lexus Nx and with 3 people in 2nd row for an hour drive used be cramped up.
Thank you!! I’ve been watching so many videos on EV and my biggest question on ionic was how it would fit my golf clubs!!! That was my biggest gripe about the Mach e, they would either have to go diagonally or put a seat down
My Tesla will be ready in September but I’m really considering the ionic. Now that more time has passed, what would you get if you had both in front of you right now? I preorded my Tesla a while ago so the pricing is about the same
UK - My IONIQ 5 is due in two weeks. Here the equivalent Model Y would cost £8,000 more. No contest, and I LOVE the styling of the IONIQ 5 both in- and outside.
Wife just bought one (only because she liked how it looks), this video was actually very helpful, i just subscribed. Please make more of these little features videos. I had no idea the charger is configurable, or about the magnet on the dashboard.
Tesla should be the clear choice just for the fact that they are the king of the hill in terms of nationwide charging network. No one and I mean no one can compete with that. Not now or not anytime in the near future.
I finally test-drove my first EV two weeks ago, a model Y. Super-impressed ! Easier to navigate the screen than I expected and a ton of space (as a tall driver) On the negative, there was more road noise (smooth city streets), but I could get used to it. The killer was the back-sweat. It was a mild afternoon afternoon in FL (not hot by FL standards), and after only 20 minutes of driving, I was feeling wet. The car itself was cool from the start, but the seats don't seem to breath.
The Ioniq 5's cooled/ventilated seats would have been a great feature to have. Also, the panoramic sunroof in the Ioniq has sun shade to physically block out 100% of the sunlight coming from above..
Do you have a Tesla wall charger for your Model Y? Wondering if I could use my Tesla wall charger and charge this car or another brand EV. With an adapter of course.
The charging speeds on the Ioniq is great. If you're planning on having the car for a few years.... The Tesla network is going to open up to CCS fast charging, they already have started to do so in Europe.
Thanks for the review. Just so you know, Chapman's bathrooms are also amazing. You are 100% right on the Tesla charging network and the app. But one minor error. You said the Tesla batteries charge faster. Nope. A "Supercharger" might have been "super" back in the day but not anymore. The Ioniq 5 can charge at 800V using an Electrify America 350kW charger - way more powerful than a "supercharger". Wait until they build out the entire Electrify network. And wait and wait.. but some day.
How often is there an OTA update on the Ioniq 5 vs Model Y? Are there equivalent Camp and Dog modes on the Ioniq? Voice commands on the Ioniq like on the Y?
Enjoy...... Breakdown below.. The Hyundai ordering process is light years behind Tesla, and this has cost them dearly, especially with the tax credit debacle. Now they are no longer eligible, which will really hurt sales. That being said all models of Ioniq 5 are lower cost than Tesla. +1 for Tesla While I think the Electrify America complaints are valid, they are often overblown as well. It’s not as bad as it’s made out to be but yes, it needs work. +1 for Tesla Budgeting minded shoppers obviously have what is largely viewed as overall better value. This is really true with the tax credit in the mix, now it’s closer. +2 Hyundai Aerodynamics of Tesla are largely better, as is range. +1 Tesla EV America free charging for 2 years, zero from Tesla. This is really nice. +2 Hyundai Integration of charging networks and calculations into vehicle infotainment. Non-existent on Hyundai. I think this is a huge feature. +4 Tesla I think seat comfort goes to Tesla. +1 Tesla Cargo Room, frunk and trunk space. +1 Tesla Lack of Android Auto and Carplay in Tesla +2 Hyundai Dual wireless phone chargers in Tesla, USB-C vs USB-A. Car has internet connectivity for music, routing, etc +2 Tesla I much prefer the console in the Tesla, with the dual wireless chargers and layout +1 Tesla Glovebox in Ioniq 5 much larger, +1 Hyundai Charging speed, which the Tesla is plenty fast, advantage Hyundai. This is somewhat offset by dealing with broken chargers at EV America +1 Hyundai Ride comfort, I think the 19 inch wheels are a must on Tesla. That being said the Ioniq 5 is soo smooth +2 Hyundai Rear lift gate, because of the angle of the glass, the Hyundai can open much higher without hitting above obstacles. It also has the auto open, if enabled. +1 Hyundai. Dual 12 inch screens vs one 15 inch large panel. This is highly debatable. I’m going to say tie.. Hyundai Bluelink vs Tesla App, vehicle connectivity. This isn’t even close. +4 Tesla Blind spot cameras, both have them, tie.. Tech add ons, games, netflix, camp mode, youtube. Tesla has all this, which is useful when sitting in the car idle, school pickups, etc. +1 Tesla Door handles, I truly don’t like the Model Y doorhandles. +1 Hyundai Auto door lock, keyless entry, phone as a key, etc. Only on Hyundai limited trim, no auto walk away door locking. +1 Tesla Rear visibility +2 Hyundai Homelink, available as an option on Tesla, included on SEL/Limited trims.. +1 Hyundai Charging door location, I much prefer the driver side location on the Tesla. +1 Tesla Overall build quality, panels, paint, etc.. +1 Hyundai Color options +1 Hyundai Auto updates, OTA updates. Seems to be poorly implemented by Hyundai, I’ve manually done all my updates. +1 Tesla Auto dimming headlights seems to work better on the Hyundai. +1 Hyundai Auto-pilot vs HDA2 I give the edge to Tesla, it’s a little more sure of itself. +1 Tesla Performance is truly about the same Model Y LR vs Ioniq 5. Tie Sliding rear seats, non-existent on Tesla +1 Hyundai Vehicle 2 load functionality, if you use it great, for most probably more of a gimmick. Limited trim only includes the adapter. .+1 Hyundai Seating height I prefer in the Model Y, it sits higher and I think the outward visibility is better. +2 Tesla I much prefer the Tesla audio system compared to both the standard and Bose offering of the limited. +2 Tesla Resell value, this is an unknown but likely an easy win for Tesla down the road. Hyundai/Kia has always had poor resale value. Time will tell +2 Tesla Leg room I feel is a toss up, both are more than adequate. Road and wind noise. Tesla has largely improved here with dual-pane glass, but I still give Hyundai the win. +1 Hyundai Heads up display not offered on Tesla, speedometer is not in the best place, distracting.. +1 Hyundai Charger offered. Tesla no longer supplies a charging kit, but they do offer one for $200 which supports 32AMP charging. This is debatable. I’d argue the one included with Ioniq 5 is somewhat useless unless you drive very little. That being said not many chargers you can buy for $200. I’ll call this one a tie. Rims, this is debatable.. Service and repair. I’ll give this one to Tesla, you have read the stories. The techs for Ioniq 5’s are learning on the fly. Tesla also has mobile service. +2 Tesla Warranty I’ll give to Hyundai, but a warranty is only as good if you receive proper service. Tesla has sentry mode, which secures your vehicle and provides video evidence of theft, damage and highly valuable in the event of accidents. +2 Tesla Overall value I’d say goes to the Ioniq 5.. +2 Hyundai Tilt wheel is manual and only up and down in Ioniq, Tesla has telescoping and up/down electric adjustment. +1 Steering turn radius is much greater in Tesla. +1 Tesla Rear glass roof in limited version of Ioniq has sun blocking panel, Tesla does not. +1 Hyundai Charging port door, much easier to operate with Tesla, which has button on charger connector to open door. +1 Tesla Tesla’s rear seats are heated as well +1 Tesla Hyundai has ventilated seats on Limited model +2 Hyundai The auto-lock door walkaway feature on Tesla is really nice.. I hope Hyundai implements this. +1 Tesla The ambient interior lighting in Hyundai is really nice, Tesla has very little and it’s not adjustable. +1 Hyundai Hyundai has faster charging, but a far less robust and available charging infrastructure. This can be beneficial, but it’s not a massive difference between the two.. Especially given the infrastructure.
@@Gjeebs THanks! I actually bought that last week lol and used your code duh for me lol. Getting it soon. Also the Ioniq does have the credit card (NFC) credit card that you can use with Android. Apple is coming out with digital cards and when they do you can just use your phone and or the credit card. Also odd i got a different charger.
The only thing I can think that would be s showstopper for me, being in a wintry climate, is the lack of a rear window washer/wiper. It’s hard to imagine that Hyundai won’t add that in a model year or two. Also, can I just say that your channel has become one of the best EV related ones on RU-vid? Fun, but balanced and reasonable with a variety of content. I’ve unfollowed a bunch of channels that were basically all-Tesla, all the time. That becomes boring after a while.
Yes the cult of Tesla gets annoying fast lol. I find there is zero impartiality when trying to talk about Tesla’s good or bad. I find you can’t get a impartial view on Tesla’s just because it’s a Tesla. I do like what Tesla has done to move the EV world but the it isn’t a Tesla gets boring fast. I enjoy Geebs videos as he presents the cars he reviews with impartiality which is refreshing.
There is no rear wiper in the 2023 model but there is a digital rear view mirror with a camera under the spoiler (option in Sweden). Don't know how well it solves the problem though. I won't find out until january 2023 when I take delivery.
Bruh, I had to stop what I was doing while driving and hit the light button just because you talked about your chipotle incident that’s funny as shit dude
Absolute love this review and your real world opinion of the Ioniq 5. It's a great EV for sure and I'm sure it will appeal to a lot of new EV buyers. Consumers now have a lot more EV choices compared to years past and even a year ago.
I own a RWD Tesla and it is not great in the winter time. It works fine, but the skidding when hitting the pedal just a little harder is annoying. Why is the rear wiper important? Never needed it in my car..
Limited RWDs are coming, around April and they’re likely all sold out. Just like Tesla production, they come in batches.. but with Hyundai, they came from a ship.
I have a Tesla 3 Performance which I love, but needed a 2nd car, and I was deciding between a Y and the Ioniq 5 Limited - I found the speed of charging faster from 15-90% faster at Electrify America than at the Tesla SuperCharger. Thanks for the magnet on the dash, never knew that. Auto cool feature... Love the ventilated seats... I love the display and heads up display and looks great with the black / light screen. Also, the bi-directional energy access is in the Limited version below the 2nd back seat. I really love the Ioniq 5 Limited over the Y... But still love my 3!!! The Hyundai key app works great too!!! Nice job!
The charge network part is not an issue in Europe, and Tesla is opening their network so this car is just as much a long distace car as Model Y here, and I am pretty sure the network will be rather amazing in the US very quickly... :O
