Why I Choose an 8dbi Antenna Every Time for Helium Mining 

Just found this and your channel, much appreciate your explanation/information.

Thanks for the advice. Was able to snatch one of the MNTD today so exited

You seem to be knowledgeable and give great information! I just subscribed. Thanks for the info! I also have a Rak MNTD

Thanks for the insight ! I have come to the same conclusion as well with my living circumstances.

This is beautiful, thank you for this upload! def smashed the like and subscribed

This is one of your best videos. It is very clear and well documented.

I got 2 today from MNtd, gonna follow this man!🙏🏽

"You gonna cry a little bit, go call your mom..." LOL!

Like your videos! I can't wait until tomorrow MNTD.

Thank you...by far the best Helium antenna video I have seen.

That was fun Justin

I just did that Rak 8 dBi inside the attic at the peak. I then ran LMR 400 from the antenna to the miner in the house, fishing it down through the wall. I doubt the M1 would survive very long in a Florida attic. I used an online calculator to figure my loss/drop with the cable run and adapters. I'll eventually move it outside after I get some data from it being inside the attic. I have a custom mount built into my chimney for a tv dish I don't use anymore but it's not as high as the attic peak inside. This was a great subject to cover!

"Raining in the dark" sooo funny ... that being said good luck with all your miners 👍

I payed the scalpers for a used miner on ebay. Great content, subscribed.

Good stuff. Thankyou!

Thanks so much for this video. Makes perfect sense, and I don’t want to deal with lightning here in South Florida I guess the attic it is lol

Wow you have 2 gold spot miner. Just subscribe. Thank you for the informations it helps a lot. Mine is a bobcat 300, hoping to arrive it as soon as possible. LOL

Ok great video with numbers supporting. I moved my miner from a congested area to a low miner population at the beach in its own hex for 1.0 BUT doesn’t reach anything so thinking of putting in attic and your video confirmed good choice. Thanks! Just hope you aren’t on the MNTD payroll! 😜

So glad I took your advice and got the 8db antenna and put it on the roof. I live in an over saturated hotspot city so scaling rewards are low. This antenna witnesses further hotspots with better scaling. Earnings have gone way up so I’m not regretting buying the hotspot anymore.

Nice vid!

Hi Justin always a pleasure watching your content. Definitely one of the best and informative out of all helium you tubers and I’m subbed to quite a few. Your take on 8dbi for every scenario has got my attention since I thought in the suburbs a 3 or 5 dbi was optimal thru youtubers ive listened to. Not 1 has ever said 8 dbi by the window. Do you use the cable that came with the 8dbi or do u buy the lmr400 in the attic set up. Cause I’ll be putting mine in the attic. Thx buddy

Hey Justin, I live in Colorado up in foco and was excited to see your videos! Great job! Im new to this and wanted to get your thoughts on recommended router and antenna for this area that won't take forever to ship. I appreciate your expertise and help. Thanks brotha!

When I got my MNTD miner I put it in the corner of my kitchen (~5m high) and it made ~$2-5 a day with the included antenna. When I swapped out an 8dBi antenna in the same position it made ~$7-10 a day. Going to do a roof mount at ~10m once I get the proper materials in, and I expect I'll yield an even greater return. This is such an interesting source of income, I can't help but get exciting trying to keep on top of it all and maximize my earnings.

Amazing Job bro, I was going to get a 5.8dbi one but this video made me change my mind. I live in a 3rd floor and have no way to go to the roof. Is it ok if I mount the antenna outside next to my window or in the balcony?

Where I live, the 2.3 that came with my GoldSpot was good. I had 16 witnesses after full sync. I then upped it to a 4db (current) and now I have a steady 24 witnesses in which the furthest is 59km away. I'm waiting on my 8dbi to test yet again and see how well I do. I'm in a valley, 2800ft above sea level, so tweaking is fun.

Great video! #1 Height! My 5.8db antenna is performing much better at 25 feet with 100ft LMR400 and a lightning arrestor (4.3 db loss) than my 4db antenna sitting in my window at 3 feet up (0db loss). Get your antenna up high people, as high as you can regardless of antenna! (properly ground it if outside installation). I run ham radio and my antennas are all in the attic, they reach 20-30 miles UHF. If you want to keep your antenna indoors with a shorter coax run and no lightning arrestor the attic is great and will greatly outperform your antenna a few feet above the ground in your room (as long as you don't have radiant barrier or metal roof/shingles). I am going to swap my 5.8 with the 8db though as I really have no obstructions and want to get a bit further.

Hi there …thanks for all the info on your videos…questions: If I place the antenna inside the attic…..it has to be grounded ? Thanks 🙏🏻

I would appreciate it so much if you can answer this question for me it would mean the world. When you update your antenna in the helium app when you switch it to a custom antenna but keep it in the same location does it affect your routers productivity or no?

I'm thinking about doing an attic antenna install, do you recommend it? I live in the city not sure if it's worth installing outside. 5.8dbi

Great videos man! Do you think it matters what brand of antenna were using? Looking at the RAK website but i have a bobcat 300. Will I have any issues?

i thought it was funny when you showed the 8dbi antenna on camera. that thing was huge! lol

I know I'm super late to this video, but just getting into helium and checking everything out. Was just curious what kind of stick stand is that you use for the antenna and miner?

Do you sell the cooling fans? I may want to know how I can get one from you since I want to place my miner up in the attic and in Florida it gets hot and humid during the summer. Please advice.

So do I understand it right? I should place the miner inside in the attic and the antenna on the roof? Moreover, the best thing would be if not only my antenna ranges a8 dBi, but also all the others that I witness or witness me. Thank you.

Possible dumb question, but hey I don't know. Can you spray paint the Antenna for a blend in color would it affect the signal at all? Also, I wonder how it would work with the Bobcat miner that is currently coming to me soon. Thanks in advance.

I currently live down from you and my mntd communicates with yours. I am going to try moving my antenna to the attic if not the roof. Plus I'm upgrading from 3dbi to 8. Hope to improve our neighborhood earnings

Good video and I am looking to swap out my 5.8 for a 8dbi however won’t the 8 overshoot all the hotspots closer to me? Most people steer away from a 8dbi for this reason. I want to try one but am reluctant at the same time.

Man I tried for a hour for the mntd drop today. Didn’t get any. Have nebra and syncrobit still on way. Only have my rak lol tried installing the 5.8dbi antenna. But the network is down

New subscriber and new to mining in general. I just purchased my first helium miner, FreedomFI 5G, and was looking into purchasing my first antenna. Right now I'm looking at the McGill omni 6 dbi 915 and LMR-400 Antenna cabling for an exterior mount at the peak of my inverted V shape roof, roughly 23-30 ft. from the ground level with eve side mounting pole when all said and done. My question to you is I haven't decided the location to place the miner just yet but was considering two options. Option 1) My bedroom where my home and ISP routers reside OR option 2) the attic. If I place the miner in my bedroom my Anttena cabling length will be 25-30 ft with an efficacy of 79.3% (roughly 80%). If I place the miner in the attic near the ventilation port my Antenna cable run to the outside eve location will only be 4-5 ft. with a rating of 95.6% according to McGills calculator (lots of work/home modification going this route). My problem is there is no electricity or internet connection in the attic and all that has to be run before getting my minor setup for that. On paper, these percentage differences seem like a huge reduction of signal loss but wasn't really sure if my laziness to just run the cabling from my bedroom where power and internet reside would cost me much in witnessing profitability. I plan on getting on board with the 5G when it's running. That's going to be costly taking a look at all that's involved in the investment aspect. Hoping that I can mine enough now to cover a portion of that. Basically, the antenna I purchase now will be useless in the future when I move to 5G, but I suppose I could reuse it if I purchase a second minor and place it at a different grid location (family/Friends House). I'm also hoping that when 5g comes about that I can take advantage of living 1 block away from the mall and all the restaurants and businesses around it (planning ahead). Also just for informational purposes, do you know if there is some loss in signal strength when joining two short cables together with a barrel connection to make one longer antenna cable? Can't seem to find any documentation on that. I haven't received my minor just yet, should be here tomorrow but with that said below is my competition within my Hex. Can you let me know how If I'm going about this right with all that I have laid out. Soft Pearl Hyena High Parchment Rooster Melodic Lilac Pony Thanks for your help, loving your content.

​ @HODLHelium Great video! Would recommend a 8dBi antenna for an antenna mounted outside of my condo balcony door window on the 5th floor?

Hey Justin, cool channel, happy to see your success. Just wondering if you think us Canadian could get into helium mining, I looked up my address and there isn’t many green helix around me. Does it mean my area isn’t profitable or it could be an opportunity

I was considering a 5.8 dbi but after watching ur video i think i want to go for an 8dbi. Heres thing tho, i cant put an rf antenna outside because im in an apartment 7m up (top 3rd floor). Im getting 32 witnesses. You think the rak 8dbi will work good as an indoor antenna?

Where did you get that gooseneck clamp stand and your stands in the background?

What do you have mounted on your tripod to attach your antenna? Do you have a link of the product? Thanks from the Netherlands

So how are you setting up these arrangements? Are you splitting the coin with them or paying them a fee for having it in their house or just selling them the devices and installation?

How much you lose with longer cable than 5meters LMR400 ? Or can you suggest any cable from which is not losing that much dBi if it's 5-10metters

Hi, I started mining Helium with a Bobcat Miner with the OEM antenna in a window on the 3rd floor (20m) of an office. I live in a very flat, low height, very populated city and I made no gain adjustments with that setup. I was averaging about 0.30 HNT per day and achieve a personal best of 0.44 HNT superbowl Sunday. Sunday evening an hour before the new UTC day I installed a new 8 Dbi antenna (Bingfu) on a magnetic base (Bingfu) that has a 10ft RG58 cable. I noticed a drop in activity over the course of the super bowl so 5 hours later I changed the gain to 6.2 which accounts for the attenuation for this setup hoping to increase the power sent to the antenna by the minor. The first full day UTC day using the new antenna setup and the combination of gains, yielded my worse performance to date of 0.21 HNT. Any ideas with what's gone wrong. I'm going to let the current setup 8 dbi antenna with 6.2 gain ride for another couple of days but I'm thinking the Bobcat antenna setup might be the better choice. Although, according to every source my 8dbi setup such have increased my witnessnessing significantly. PLEASE HELP!

Justin, thank for the nice content, am in Europa here antenna gain here for POc v11 is 4, 1dbi, but my Problem is the nearest Hotspots to me is about 14km upward to 60km, what can you can u suggest in this Situation? And you send me the links of antena lost through Glass, brick and wall etc as u Shown in your video;-) greetings from Germany

how do you keep the miner cool on hot summer days in an attic? Also wouldn't LMR-600 have even less loss?

Hey Justin! Thanks for the info. Thoughts on us Alaskans who got snow on our roof half the year, would attic still work? Or should I put it on a snowless part of the roof? Thanks!

Anyone have numbers on the before/after returns when moving from inside to the roof?

Hello, I am really thinking about getting one. I live on the 7th floor in a building. I am not sure which antenna would be the best for me. Could you please give me some recommendation? Thanks

Good stuff, man. Thanks! My miner is a few km away and is witnessing yours. We should probably set up a meetup of Arvada miners or something... :) I would love to connect and chat.

i see the map and some has green and some is normal. Is it good if your house is next to the green ones? or its better if its still empty? thx

Are the new LITE Miners worth getting and available? Where? Do they earn half what a Bobcat would at the same location (since they cost half as much)

Hi Justin, I live on the third floor of an apartment building. I Currently have a bobcat miner with the stock antenna and I have no witnesses and I'm only earning about $10 a week. Can I use the Rak Wireless antenna with the bobcat miner? Is Rak Wireless better? Let me know what you think.

I'm thinking of getting into this but there are only 4 Hotspots in my area and they are all brown. The blues are almost 100km away. Is it still worth while? How can I help get the Hotspots in my area to be blue so we can all earn more?

Justin! I just got my miners, I live in the Bronx with apt Buildings/2story houses around me. What is the best antena to use, any help from the community would be great !

Thx for the info. I ordered a bobcat miner for me and a friend across town thinking this was easy lol. It hasn’t arrived yet. Any advise on additional items like better antenna? Thx

If my house is very densely populated w other miners, would upgrading the antenna help at all? Right now it is at just 1.2dBi.

would love to know exactly how you have that antenna set up back there, with the miner hooked to the side(how?), and the fan that i see. thank you! great video!

Even if it's a narrow angle. Let's say you place the antenna at a 10m altitude. The 8dbi antenna has a Vertical Beam Width of 27 degrees. We may assume other antenna's aren't placed on the ground, but let's keep it low at a 2m altitude. This leaves us with +/- 8m height difference and an angle to that point of 13.5 degrees. That would mean that you only can't see those other antenna's within +/- 33.5 meters, which in suburban areas might be just 5 houses further.

I’m going to assume the attic would be a no go for a roof that has solar panels.

Can you do a video of your mounting setup behind you?

Thanks for your videos, Justin! I have a question about wired vs wireless installation of miners. Do you think it matters? Obviously, running an Ethernet cable from a router all the way up to an attic may be extremely difficult. Just curious on your thoughts about this!

I've got hurricane impact windows, block construction, with a metal roof. I need to get up on my roof and hope for the best.

Question: if you have an 8 dbi antenna attached to coax which lowers the dbi by 2, would the signal ( ie the balloon) be the same 8 dbi balloon shape or a 6 dbi balloon shape?

Hey Justin can you make a video of your rak set up - located behind you ;)

What did you get in the last 30 days with your 8dbi?

Are the cables that I buy LMR-400 on your link?

I received my Freedomfi miner and has only minder $1.20 in three weeks. Do these antennas work for Freedonfi 5G miners as well?

What do you suggest for an antenna - I'm 3 miles from edge of city. Mixed houses and trees / acreages between the antenna and city. Max height I can install is 15' in rooftop. Thanks in advance!!

What antena u choose on 20 and 30m high roof with clear view?

For the Rakewirless 8 dBi antenna you referenced, how do you know what the vertical beamwidth is? It doesn't specify on their website.

lmfao! I finished my antenna in the dark, on a two story house, with a steep roof pitch, in the rain!!! I'm working 6/10s right now and had to get it done 🤷

I am trying to put my attena up a bit higher and I hope its going to get me more rewards

How do you "point" the antenna in a certain direction if there is a specific grouping of other miners you want to reach? Or is it experimenation. You simply have to keep turning the antenna?

Were you able to get in on the job today with MNTD!?

Does having a solar panel lessens the gain?

How bad is it to start in an area where you are the first to do it and the next hotspots are like several miles away? I'm from the Philippines.

What do you think about McGill antennas, they are better optimized and higher quality. It's sayd to earn 7% more HNT.

If I have an 8dbi antenna and want to dial it back to 5.8, would that work or would I have to buy a tuned 5.8?

Do you have a link for where you got that gooseneck clamp stand for your attic?

Hi mate, Thank you for the video, I have a question. I live in a highrise flat with a balcony 100m above ground in the city. I have a few other miners near by but none in my hex, What would be the best antenna for me?

I have got a 12 dbi live in the uk thinking bigger is better will the system lower it to 9 dbi automatically

Any advice on being successful at getting the MNTD drops? No luck this morning clicking the Checkout button for over 1hr.

Where do you get those stands behind you ??

help me decide if i should get a 8 dbi or 10dbi rokland antenna? thanks in advance

I CHANCE MY ANTENNA ON MY BOBCAT HOW MANY HOURS IT WILL NEED MY NEW ANTENNA TO START MAKING WORK I AM 7 HOURS WITH 0 HNT AFTER I CHANCE MY STOCK TO 8 DPI IS NORMAL?

Where you got the stand from

But with the pocv11 they put a limit to the gain and if you go over it they reduce your transmitting scale, so is it still worth it to buy 8db even if you get less transmitted power, or is it better to use a 5.8 dB instead?

I wondered how you can be so focused in every video. I see the case of Mountain Dew behind you. I wonder no more.

Love your video. So tired of hearing all the Helium experts talk about over shooting. Lol

Yo, Justin.. How much more HNT are you earning on average with the 8dbi as opposed to the standard antenna?

Just wanted to point out that you may get better penetration mounting to a wall as opposed to windows..just something to consider..

I put a new 8dbi antenna on a goldspot at a friend's house. Was hoping that it would increase my witnesses from the 2.3 antenna, however I am actually getting less rewards now. It's only been maybe 5 days but worried I need to change to the 5.8 I have. How long should I wait to see my full witness count before jumping the gun and changing the antenna again. I appreciate the help! Macho Chocolate Dolphin for reference

POE will solve your power issue like you said at the end

So I’m placing antenna on a 100’ tower. Going with LMR600 and a 8dbi antenna. Placing router and miner on the ground so I can access easily.

Can I use this antenna with a bobcat miner?

Does this work for Freedonfi miners also?