I have many Cummin's come through the shop with 1 000 000 miles. Never seen a powerstroke or Duramax hit that yet but both engines are more complicated. Dodge doesn't make a great truck (suspension, transmissions) but the engine can't be beat. Ford is a pain to work on with not labeling anything (belt routing, fuse panels) and everything is tight, where most jobs require the cab be removed. I don't agree with 6.4 PS being a good engine. It was only sold for a couple years, which says something.... Most modern diesels don't pay for themselves like they used to. They cost more to maintain and buy originally and don't pay back in fuel savings. In my opinion, stick with new gas and pre-2007 diesels, while avoiding Powerstrokes. No manufacturer gets it right though, that's why I build my own. I drive a 2005 Silverado with a 5.9 Cummins and my wife drives a 2004 Tahoe with a 3.9 Cummins
Because fords are cheaper in general to buy especially if buying them for fleet, I work at a ford dealership and even I can tell you I wouldn’t stand behind them, they’re easier to sell cause of the price and also because of the famous saying of “ford built tough” or “ford American made” when in reality their parts are made in China just like any other company, want a good truck? Get a Chevy, more expensive but worth the buy
kingofthecrease30 exactly cause he full of it, ford didnt have to borrow money from the government, and if ford so bad why chevy and dodge changed they frames to fully box like ford, and why chevy and dodge copied the the king ranch years later, i can go on and on, but this is bull.
@Fred Bennett Because Ford gives the best fleet buyer deals. Ford is absolute garbage. don't try and justify them because you fell for their propaganda. Also it's sad/shocking that you are old enough to operate a car when you don't even know basic grammar. Proves my point even more.
Sullivan Rivers if u read it the way i wrote it u would have no problem understanding the simple humor in how i said it, its not my grammar its your reading.
Ford received $5.9 billion in bailout loans from the government through the TALF program, just not the TARP program. Ford Credit also borrowed $15.9 billion to remain solvent. The Big 3 all took our money.
I've driven the same Chevy 4x4 since special ordering it from the factory in 1986. 100% original drivetrain except for stripping 5 speed input shaft. I'ts too gutless to really hurt itself. But gets 23mpg, and has never stranded me. I've maintained & repaired it myself since the warranty expired about 30 years ago. It wore put all at once last year, but parts cost 2/3rd less than originally. Just replaced these parts this fall Clutch package: $65. 02 sensor: $14 Cat back exhaust pipes and muffler: $80. (Original catalytic convertor still works). Lower ball joints cost less than an oil change. Except for input shaft and cluster gears, the drivetrain is 100% original. Only opened motor once to replace valve cover gaskets. And no, it is not a freeway queen. I use it like a truck, from hunting & fishing to cutting my annual firewood, towing my boat, and as my winter vehicle. I'd drive it across the country tomorrow, no worries. It has been earning me a monthly payment since I paid it off in 1990. $400 x 12months x 30 years: $144,000. Carefully chose your truck in the 1st place, like you'd chose a good woman or dog, take care of them, and they'll be a good investment. Chose a Ford, and, well, might as date a stripper and adopt a pit bull to ride in the back while you're at it. You'll just need keep a short leash/ tow rope handy at all times).
Yes, well those were the trucks back in the 80's, very reliable. I have a 95 Dodge Cummins 5.9L that I just replaced the engine & clutch in Thanksgiving 2020, and a new head, head bolts & studs, and 2 head gaskets this year since March. (Made mistakes putting in the head gasket in April/May 2021 the first time, and had to redo it in July.) The ultimate tough truck was my 97 F150, 4.2 v6, 4wd, 5 speed, 3.08 gears. I beat and beat and beat on that truck, towing way over the recommended limit, and did very little to the truck, and it never let me down. Paid $1,600 for it and drove it 5 years until I got it stuck with a loaded trailer in my back yard. When my neighbor tried to pull me out with his truck, it snapped the tow strap, bent my ball mount, and compromised my frame so that when I delivered the trailer load of materials, the frame was bent & the trailer hitch was nearly on the ground. It never rode quite right again after that, even when I got the frame fixed. I also had a 97 4cyl Ranger that I ran hard as well and it handled the abuse too.
All I’ve ever had was Chevy/GMC. Then I bought a Dodge for the first time.... two weeks later I got rid of it and got a new GMC 2500. They can be expensive, but damn I love my GM trucks.
Being a diesel mechanic, I'm going to tell you that no matter what you buy, your going to spend money on it. Whether from a maintenance aspect or repair, it's going to cost money. A gasser is great but pulling weight it will struggle because of the lower amount of torque it produces. A gasser for pulling campers and a trailers of equal weight it perform just as good as diesel. The diesels are meant for heavier loads that require more stability at highway speeds. In the end it's just up to you what you are wanting the truck to do, there are ways of improving the ride or performance of a truck. All it boils down to is how deep your pockets are.
418k 2000 Silverado Gas: I honestly dont think its a FORD thing, i think its a modern truck in general issue, they manufacture trucks these days to throw away basically and setup the owner to either pay the dealership to keep it on the road or they lure you in to upgrading to another newer disposable truck. My brother and I run a landscaping business, we have been through a lot of trucks diesel and gas and the one truck that has lasted the longest is our 2000 Silverado w/ 5.3L V8. The reason its been so reliable is because a few years ago we had some heavy raining and drove through a deeper than expected puddle and the electrical system shorted out, mechanic told us the ecu was dead and needed new harness for the burned wires it caused. The mechanic recommended we just run a EFI to Carb kit on it and get rid of all the fuss of wiring if its just a work truck, so we did.. today that truck had 418k on the motor running everyday as our daily puller for the landscape trailer. The engine gets nearly identical MPG as it did with EFI, the only time we see a difference is when on the highway with it, EFI averaged a few more mpg. We bought a used junkyard engine about 3 years back, because we were worried about the high miles and stripped it down and rebuilt it from the block up to have a fresh engine when it finally gives us sign of dieing, but its been 3 years now and it still starts up and runs the same... so the engine just sits in the corner of the garage on an engine stand. The single reason we think this engine has lasted this long is because we simplified the engine down to a handful of wires to run and deleted all the electronical bs.
I've owned many Ford cars and trucks since 1964. We bought a 2013 Ford Escape 1.6 Ecoboost. Bad gas mileage from day one till it self destructed. We received a recall notice on a Saturday and it burned up completely, on the side of the road the very next day before we could take it to a dealer. I had to deal with Ford lawyers, not Ford salesman. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. It took 78 DAYS for Ford to agree to replace the Escape! They treated me as if I burned it myself. There were delays, and the lady had to be reminded of what they promised over and over. They didn't pay for the new title work and fees as they promised. When asked she said that my case was closed. I told her I hoped she could live with herself having lied. They didn't seend the money in a timely manner till the "case was closed". It has cost them more since the case was closed that they could have made from me and my family. I will not by another new Ford!!
I bought a new 1996 dodge 2500 gas 4x4 single cab and had 8 problems in 10 months yes major transmisson problems the dealer tried 3 times to fix it and they could not the dealer told me to call the lemon law lawyers in philly silverman and silverman. The best in the nation the lawyer told me it cost chyrsler $ 10,000 to pay their lawyers to go to court so they just make a deal i got a new 1997 1500 ext cab gas truck and $ 2,500 and i bought it under invoice! I had a new truck in a week ! Not 1 cent out of my pocket for my lawyer chrysler paid them.
Also, if your 6.0 won't start when it's cold out you haven't been maintaining your truck. Our 6.0 starts at -20 c not even plugged in. He's right, don't watch the video...read the comments If Ford's are so terrible why keep buying them?
"If Ford's are so terrible why keep buying them?" 8:28 He's a tightwad, that's the only reason he goes back to Ford time and again like a battered wife.
I’ve got a 6.0, over 10k hours on it. 245k miles and is a work truck. I have had cracked cylinder heads, countless injector problems, oil coolers and ficms fail on several occasions. But it still starts up in super cold temps. I still rely on it day to day. Recently hauled 32k lbs through some mountains and it handled it like a champ. 2005 f550
Ah yes the fanbois love their godlike Toyota tacomas that drink gas down at 15mpg real world, towing nothing. Cue the fanbois magic tacomas that get 30mpg powered by Japanese farts, and can actually accelerate faster than a Geo Storm.
@@TheVonzink bro relax, my dad has had a 2018 ford f150 xlt sports, and we never once had to take it to the shop beside for oil changes. My friend has a raptor and the ownly thing he's done is change the suspension because his suspension where not comfortable enough for off roading.
I have a 07 duramax 21mpg highway and get 16-17 mpg pulling a load . Im at 250,000 miles 200,000 of them are miles I put on. This truck has been an absolute work horse for all of those miles with the most expensive repair bill being a water pump. I love my chevy's !
George Mulligan I have a friend that had a 2006 dodge and he replaced the front end 3 times and finally just traded it in. We have a 2003 chevy Silverado 3500 with about 300,000 miles on it and have had just a couple of minor issues. And I get 21 MPG
I used to work on fleet maintenance. Never seen a dodge anything make 200,000 easily. Lots of Fords and a few Chevys with 300-500k miles.... how many miles do you put on them and what kind of work
I love Cummins, it's just those damn transmissions that screw me over, I'm towing a lot on highways and never wanted a manual, but I might have to now. Can someone give me some insight if the dodge auto tranny"s are still bad. I got an 05 Cummins right now with the automatic and thinking about upgrading but don't know what to go for.
raged cescent If you want to keep your current truck, take it to ATS in Colorado. They build up the transmission and give it a lifetime warranty. It costs about 8k though. But if you’re going to keep the truck, it’ll last you the rest of your life. Those 2005 Cummins are the best of the big three from that generation. Good luck.
My previous main use truck was a 2005 Chevrolet 2500hd with the Duramax & Allison combination, Loved that truck and I'm still depressed as hell that it's gone (A young guy and his buddy were texting and driving and blew right through a stop sign and nailed me and unfortunately totaled it out) The Duramax only had some minor issues with the fuel filter & pump failed only twice, fan belt for the power steering. Other than those things I mentioned it was a bulletproof truck, I really want to look at a new Duramax (GMC or a 2500hd with the leather seats, navigation) They've made some needed upgrades that have given the Duramax a lot more horsepower and some other impressive features that just make it even better. However I am Impressed with the 6.7 as well, very, very quiet and the ride from the 250 & 350 Lariets are smooth even with a plow and spreader or if your towing.
Christopher Shepherd The Duramax was never made by Isuzu. SMH It was originally designed by Isuzu but made by GM in Moraine OH, and also GM now owns most of the right's to the Duramax which means Isuzu no longer owns a part of the Duramax anymore.
I would trust it completely, and have, if it was properly bulletproofed. But, who wants to spend 10 grand making a 6.0 reliable, when you can just buy a 7.3 Powerstroke and never have any worries
My experience isn't with a Ford "truck", but with a Ford van and the Ford Motor Company. We bought a Ford Windstar and got the "extended warranty" with it. After having a full service done at the Ford dealership, I took my family on vacation. While driving through the Mojave Desert, the van started to sputter and finally stalled ON the freeway! We pulled over and I pulled the dip stick out of it's tubing and a plume of smoke or steam came out of the tube. I re-started the van and continued down the freeway for about a 100 years when it finally gave up the ghost. Leaving me, my wife and 2 small kids stranded in the middle of the Mojave Desert in the middle of the Summer! I found a emergency call box and called for a tow. We got towed to a Ford Dealer where believe it or not, was another van EXACTLY like ours! Not knowing what the problem was with ours and they said they'd have to start stripping the motor down until they found the problem. I asked what the problem was with the one like ours and the guy said it was a recall for a faulty head gasket. Humm, I NEVER got a notice from Ford about a recall on OUR van! So after a few days of renting a hotel room for me and my family, guess what the problem with OUR van was? Yep, you probably guessed it. A faulty head gasket that was a recall!? Why wasn't I notified!? Why didn't Ford say something when we had just had a van in the shop getting a Full Service!? After spending over $1K out of my own pocket for hotels and rental cars since it took the better part of 2 weeks to get our van repaired, The Ford Motor Company WOULD NOT reimburse us for what was THEIR mistake! If they would have fixed the problem in the first place, we wouldn't of had this nightmare story/vacation! If they would have stood behind their product, I wouldn't be typing this novel! Needless to say, thanks to the Ford Motor Company. I will NEVER own another F**Ked Over Rebuild Dodge!
Yeah, who want's to breath clean air? I mean, who cares if our grandchildren have to wear masks to go outside like they do in China? That's their problem!!! Real men pollute... I'm going to go dump all my waste oil in the river, because I'm a real man!
tomlind2 you must either be from the DPRK (democratic people's republic of kalifornia), or one of those liberal northeast elites. Bought any carbon off-sets from Al Gore recently? And no...I don't have any kids....so...
My dodges fell apart. I bought a new, a 2015 Ram 1500 and after 50,000 it was all down hill (rapidly) from there. My 2018 F350 diesel is all guts, built solid and thoughtfully engineered. It's got a stiff ride.... but it's a pickup truck. Considering that, it's an easy truck to drive all day. If a comfortable ride was a priority I'd get a Mercedes. The F series is the number 1 selling truck, at an almost 2:1 ratio to its nearest competitor. In the US the F-150 is the number one selling vehicle overall. In numerous industries Ford trucks commands slightly less or more than 50% of the market share, leaving Ram and GM to fight over the other half. We all have our opinion, but the proof's in the puddin'. If the truck was half as bad as you made it out to be in your 13 min and 24 sec cry session, those sales figures would not exist in the magnitude that they do
adam , do you know that chevy and gmc combined have outsold ford many of times in the last 36 plus years, ford has told the people that they have outsold other trucks, all those years but that is bogus. gm does not comment or brag about it. gm should call theirselves gm series trucks and put ford s lies to rest.
Lee Speyrer Yet GM will, instead of trying to sell their vehicle in ads, they will simply try and brag about some insignificant awards and straight up try to piss on all of the competitors without really trying to make a case WHY their vehicle is good. GM trucks are ALL on the most unreliable truck consumer reports list of 2018. None are on the reliable side. Ford Super Duty is 2nd and F-150 is 6th if I remember right.
Manorscape Gardening Then why don’t Semi Trucks have IFS? Cause even though it’s in the front, it can affect how the truck drives and feels under a load.
@@FordFan01 the IFS on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks is more than adequate for what they do and a IFS affairs to altered rear weight very well. A solid beam or tube type is limited in that aspect. These trucks are also personal vehicles in most cases. Drive one a while you'll see
Manorscape Gardening My dude, I drive a 1993 F-350. I know what it feels like to get banged around. IFS is also less reliable because usually, the steering setup is less durable. They are also a pain to work on and have more joints that need to be lubricated. Most IFS setups use a cast aluminum differential, which is less durable than the iron for solid axle. So under a load that the Super Duty trucks are built for, it would put a lot of stress on the front components. That’s why Ford or Dodge hasn’t put IFS in their 1 tons. It’s generally less reliable when used for hauling. If you are getting a personal truck and not gonna tow a lot, buy an F-150 or 1500 and don’t complain. Generally IFS isn’t as reliable under towing conditions, which is why they keep it on the 150. One of our fellow farmers owns about 4 2015 Chevy 3500s and he says they are a pain to maintain.
I have three Chevy trucks with 6.0 gas engines. One of them has 200000 miles on it. All it does is plow and salt, and pull trailers. I’ve had it for five years and only had to put a hose and a caliper in it. Other than that it just runs. All of my Chevy trucks have been rock solid. No need to go to the diesel option, even though they are awesome. The gas engine does fine.
I run all gm's or chevy's. Lowest mileage is 238,00 and highest is 434,00. All gas, 2500hd, they ride great. 15mpg to 12mpg with trailer around 8,000lbs (on highway). 9 mpg in town with same trailer at the worst. Will pull anything. Easy to work on (and rarely do) and parts are cheap. All trucks years are 2000 to 2006 with 6.0L gas. Just money makers! $$$
2002 Chevy 2500HD 6.0, can't beat it, it grossed 35,000lbs hauling scrap and continues to gross 28-31,000. Only way it'd be sold is when the wheels can't be put back on it
Ryan Bieberich The only thing I’ve had to replace on my 2000 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 was the water pump, brake pads, and minor things like oil changes and such. Has 194,000 miles on it and has towed a trailer a lot with a vehicle on it. Great truck that has taken care of me and is easy to repair when needed.
I have a Ford 6.0 that is a 2006 build date. Has 300k no issues. I seen them crank over 800k no issue. Just need to know where the bad design flaws are and fix it. Then it’s a reliable platform.
See I’ve seen my cousin abuse his and it did great he deleted it and yah it preformed great but it still died. I think his was an electric issue but I’ve also worked with a guy who babied his, did proper maintenance on it and he had to replace the motor. I’ve just never seen a good 6.4
All about personal experiences..I've driven brand new Ram Chevy and Ford trucks for working purposes and the Chevys handled the road the best. The rams are powerhouses with the cummins, but the fords were the most relaxing to drive and by far the most comfortable interior wise. We've had 7.3s 6.0s 6.4s 6.7s and the only one that ever gave us major issues was the 6.7. Again all about personal experiences that make personal opinions.
The most economical truck I drove and I was in the field for 20+ years. The Isuzu cabover with the GM350 engine dually rear. We even had a plow on it worked perfect.
Cesar Marin no it means he's an idiot and is so mad he wasted his own money he has to make a RU-vid video dissing the company because his business is slow!!
I plant trees in British Columbia, and my company rents new F350 every year. We put them through very rough terrain with a tonne of weight in the back.(trees) They are defiantly a stiff ride, but they handle the back roads very well. On occasion we rent Dodge Duallys, and they usually have a harder time dealing with the abuse that we put them through. One Dodge blew up the transfer case after a couple months, but it could have been a 'lemon'? Longevity remains to be seen with the new F350s, but they usually have no issues after a year of abuse. From time to time check engine light comes on, but its always something minor. One thing is if you ride back roads often make sure you change the air filters often, we do if we are riding in pouring rain through lots of mud. One year an engine died because it wasn't getting any air, but that is purely because of negligence.
the e.p.a. and the government is to blame for the very poor fuel mileage, smoke and un-reliability issues. Both do not want good efficiency to boost oil sales, ( under the lie about lowering emissions) , politicians all have a vested interest.
Tesla makes a semi that will burn rubber. Vehicles like the Escape hybrid forget what a truck's for and are basically worthless for towing, but I think a 1-ton electric truck (preferably hybrid - with free-piston generator) would make us all re-think what a truck is, especially when we use them in "crawler" modes a lot like backing trailers (or hooking up to them), etc... Also think about all those times you're barely moving but running that big-ass engine for no other reason. Bonus: A free-piston generator bank (I'm thinking multiple independent cylinders) and some inverters make for an efficient and quiet job or camp-site generator.
I could retire on what you spent on 15 new fords. I gues I'll keep driving my 1994 gmc 1500. It now has 326,ooo miles as ive only driven it 13 years straight through.. It only gets 16mpg with a 350. (It has towed at least a hundred fords)
2020 i still own my 2001 Silverado i bought new as my first truck. I'm expecting the cab to fall off any day now with a hard braking lol. Other than the bottom that truck still shines
@@helpallofem4428 my '95 f250 (with a minor rebuild) still runs like new. Ford has fallen in quality harder than -Remington- Lemington did after Freedumb group bought them out. Unfortunately too many fan boys are keeping this sorry excuse for a (pro-California EPA btw) American automobile manufacturer alive.
keep your 6.7 after the warranty runs-out... delete DPF and EGR get a mild smoke free tune you will love it like the 7.3 and you should be able to love it long time....
The 7.3L I owned ran fantastic for me. I had great luck with my 4.6L has 340K on it. I believe part of the it is the care we put in these trucks. I had a 5.4L terrible gas mialage but I bought it for work not fuel economy.
new trucks have EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) -- {exhaust into the air intake} new trucks have DPF (diesel particulate filter) -- {filters to clog the exhaust} new trucks have better control over turbos and fuel injection but the DPF and EGR over shadow the gains the new technology has brought
I strongly agree! Just not too old... Real old Diesels had no get up and go, Till the turbo-diesels came to be standard the diesel. The stone age diesels got 40 Miles Per Gallon but took a half mile to get up to 35 Miles Per Hour and 2 or 3 miles to reach 55 mph.
I have had many Ford Super Duties. My 2001 F250 w/ 7.3 Powerstroke, best diesel I have ever owned. gave it to my son with 300k mikes and had never had a wrench on it. Bought a 2004 F250 w/ 6.0 diesel. This piece of junk made me swear I would never buy another diesel. Bought a gas Excursion after that. Almost bought a 2009 F250 until my buddy told me the 6.4 slung the crankshaft out the bottom with less that 100k. I bought a 2011 with the 6.7 diesel due to being told the 6.7 is the new 7.3 and will run forever... WRONG! Actually, its in the shop as we speak due to Ford using PLASTIC lifter retainers and the lifters turned sideways and ate lobes off camshaft. Knocking its azz off. At 110k, the DEF / Urea system failed ($3000) now with 174k, Needs engine ($16k). I think I'm done with Fords completely.
+Cassidy Keen Of course the 7.3 was a great diesel...Ford didnt build it. lol. The Duramax is the reason the 7.3 was killed off though. It couldn't compete in the power department. That being said, Id take either and be happy. Ive known Duramaxes to be pretty good. That's why they are used everywhere. Even the presidential motorcade is a Duramax. It's not like he didn't have options.
Thanks for my wallet that my 96 7.3 f250 is the newest vehicle I've ever owned. I got it about 2 years ago with 280k miles and I do have to work on it frequently (I bought the $1000 kind (rusty)) But one thing I trust in it that it won't need any major engine work as long as I can take care of it. (basically keep oil in it, keep its EGTS in range, keep its intake sealed and dirt free to avoid dusting the motor and keep it to like 350hp lol) motor parts I've put into it so far: lift pump, wiring/injector (wiring), exhaust manifolds, filters and I have a few "race parts" I put on it. I wouldn't mind having a Cummins one bit but it'd have to be Ford swapped cause 92-97 - 99-03 and some of the newer ones like 2008 are the best looking trucks IMO.
+Cassidy Keen No, the Duramax was co designed though and GM owns a large portion of Isuzu. Isuzu also puts a lot of GM gasser V8s in their box trucks. So it makes sense. I dont believe Ford ever gave anything to International or Navistar for the 7.3. except a pile a money. Then again I guess that's all the motivation Id need, count me in!
I've never owned a Ford truck but my mom did F150 California Edition. She drove it to and from work (10 mile round trip) for 5 years, she never towed, had all service and maintenance completed by the dealer and at 25k miles just after the warranty dropped (5 year) the transmission wouldn't shift out of first. She took it in and the transmission was toasted. She had to replace ball joints/engine mounts and bushings with less then 30k miles. The quality just isnt there IMO. She would prefer to drive my Silverado Z71 4x4 Crew cab over her truck and I beat mine up... I hit the Mohave Trail in it, took it mudding, trails, towed large car haulers and loads of other stuff including racing it and I never had any major issues with it. The only issue I had was the cloth seats attracted lint. I hated that... besides that it ran like a boss!
If that's all she drove it for, its actually really bad for the engine/drivetrain. A 5 mile trip will not let it get to operating temp consistently, and keep it there. Not saying the trans should have been cooked in 25k miles, but short trips probably didn't help it
Ive owned many trucks and I’ll summarize my experience so far. Dodge is a great engine inside of a junk truck. Transmissions are garbage, trucks rust and rot just by looking at them and they ride rough. Ford is a good truck with a junk engine, minus the 7.3, but that is difficult sometimes. More complicated than a 5.9 Cummins, but 7.3 will run reliable once you understand them. 6.0 on up is trash. Unreliable, but comfortable to drive, pull hard and make good power. Chevrolet with the Duramax is the middle of the road of the Cummins and the Powerstroke. Good engines once you understand them. Well laid out cabs. 6.5’s are OK stock engines, just don’t expect any more than stock. General stuff - NPR’s are reliable for the first 100,000 miles. Anything with a Cat engine is nice, until it breaks. Two stroke Detroits sound like you are blowing them up, but are mechanically reliable. Require a mechanic that is 65 years old or older to run and be dependable. 6.0’s are good once you convert it into something that is NOT a 6.0. Briggs and Stratton engines were junk back when you were a kid, don’t fool yourself. Only difference with them now is they are much more junker. Smack the sense out of yourself if you are considering a new diesel over a gas truck.
Monel Funkawitz Eehhhh....Ford regained my trust with diesels after they ditched Navistar and built the 6.7. Best diesel right behind the 7.3. Best modern diesel in my cases.
LOL Detroits require a mechanic over 65 to run right... That's because they're SO SIMPLE... I worked on the old 6-71 and 8V71 and 8V92 Detroits when I was in mechanic's school in the early 90's. Most guys couldn't get how to work on them because the old rack injector system is SO simple... if you can set valve lash, you can correctly set up a rack injector system. All you need is the right tools-- the proper clearance gauges to set the injector plunger travel (lash, essentially) and then properly set the injector racks so all the injectors and cylinders are balanced. That's it. It's about like setting the points on 8 lawn mower motors... I LOVED Detroits. Yeah, they're noisy and drip oil and stuff, but they're powerful and SO simple. Just the epitome of the KISS principle. The old Cummins PT injection system wasn't bad, but not as simple and elegant as the Detroit rack injector system. Now everything is mucked up with a bunch of electronic junk. Nephews have had 3 of the newer Ford diesels, and nothing but trouble. Granted they're in their 20's so you know kids... first one was chipped and the nephew found shavings in the pan and his Dad told him "go trade it quick before you're buying an engine". He traded it on a '14 6.7 (IIRC). The younger nephew bought a '12 6.4 and the engine crapped out... thankfully he bought the warranty because $10,000 later he got his truck back with a new short block. The two stage turbo was out of spec but the insurance company said, "put it on there and go with it" and refused to replace it. They fired it up it was screaming like a b!tch so they HAD to replace it... another $4,000 IIRC. He got the truck back ran it a few days it just stopped in the middle of the road, was running but wouldn't move. Shut it down had a buddy tow him to his fiancee's house went to restart it starter would turn engine wouldn't. Had the shop come get it turns out the center of the flex plate where it bolts to the crank busted out from the outer half of the flex plate-- engine would spin but transmission wouldn't, then the starter would spin the torque converter but not the crankshaft... just junk. First nephew's truck started running funny on the way to work one morning. Got some filters and stuff hoping against hope that'd fix it-- no joy. Talked to some diesel buddies working at the Ford shop and stuff and they told him to pull the fuel rail pressure sensor and pressure regulator off the back of the engine-- removed the fender liner, cut some wrenches down to fit, did his calisthenics and yoga, and after working 4 hours got the two parts unscrewed. Looked at the screens and found glitter-- mechanic buddy told him "you're screwed-- glitter is shavings from the high pressure fuel pump, Ford says replace all 8 injectors and the high pressure pump and the entire fuel rail system, because you can't get all the shavings out. $6,000 fix. He got a secondhand high pressure pump and installed it and flushed it out and called it good. Just junk... NO WAY would I buy one of these modern Fords... BIL runs an '02 F-350 7.3 and he's said the same thing. He's gonna run that truck til it falls apart and then have to figure out what to do next, because it WON'T be a Ford-built diesel engine... 7.3 was the last engine they had that wasn't OVERPRICED, OVERCOMPLICATED JUNK... Later! OL J R : )
luke strawwalker I keep one of the Detroit spinny injector timing tools in my toolbox just to remind me of the days when things were meant to be worked on. Funny you mentioned it 😂
yea right i see new cars and trucks come into my shop and they get the undercoating done the dealer does a crap job always misses spots that are right out in the open
Absolutely agree with you on this. Here in NH it doesn't matter if your cummins, duramax or even a pukeandchoke can last 2 or 300k...The trucks are long gone by then...unless you're putting 100k a year on them..
Stephen Cunningham they sell undercoat spray at the auto parts store, it will insure all those rocks don't chip the paint and cause rust. Do it once a year to patch up any areas that get worn away from said rocks and you'll never have to worry about rust.
As a Ford mechanic I thank all of you who buy Fords because you keep me working. Ford equals job security… basically if you want a good vehicle don’t buy Ford!
I have an 05 Chevy 2500hd gasser that pulls my dump trailer and skid all summet at max load and have had zero issues. The company I plow for has Ford's. I was 40 minutes from our shop plowing and salting with a 450 when the gear shaft snapped in half leaving me stuck in neutral while putting it in reverse. Had a few other issues that the mechanic had to fix under the hood that I couldn't handle. For me, it's Chevy.
I have had 2014 F150 2004 Gmc 2500 HD 1997 F150 1978 C20 chevy 1979 dodge snow commander 1985 F250 And a couple square body suburbans. Over all my Favorite is the 2014 F150 .only becuse of interior amenities
My favorite is my 1988 c3500. I have had it for about 4 years. Sold my 1992 s2500 today. The 3500 has never let me down and I never have to put more than regular maintenance in it
Ive been in the business for 26 years I started in 1993 and bought all new Chevys from 93-2000 I bought 10 new trucks and were great dependable and great riding trucks. In 1999 I then had heavier equipment skid steer ect so for no reason I decided to try Ford turbo diesel and within 3 years and within 50k miles I had to replace oil pans on my Ford Diesel trucks 1999 F350 Dually Dump and my 2000 F350 and Its was a huge repair you have to lift the motor to just change oil pans !! I then went back to Chevy trucks I always buy HD2500s and they are the most reliable trucks and the ride is outstanding ! I can go 80k miles on my Chevys on original brake pads and only change tires, batteries. I'm in Syracuse NY and we snow plow and work these trucks to the max. I know several people in the landscaping construction industry and talked to several that owned Ford, Dodge and they do not compare to a Chevy truck. Again Ive been in the business for 26 years and owned over 25 new Chevy trucks
kevinboo2000 Funny you say that. I had to replace the oil pan on my 02 F350 when it was 6 years old. Among all the other stuff that has been replaced. It's pretty bad when I walk into the parts store or talk to the mechanic And they say all the time ya that's a common problem on Fords we get them in all the time.
Ryan Belden for one ford was around longer and 2 the 7.3s were known for that hell my family has 8 7.3 all the way back since 1994.5 and never had an issue besides the and that was on a 2000 Ford f550 7.3 500,000 miles and we had it changed in less than an hour didn’t have to lift the motor
yeah @steiger 256 I did even mention that my Fords leaked from everywhere held fluids. Power steering box, oil pan ect. And when you buy a 1 ton diesel and you need to replace simple stuff like break pads, everything is heady duty and the prices are HEAVY DUTY !$$ That's why I went to a Chevy HD 2500 they ride smooth and are heavy duty
kevinboo2000 I got pretty upset when I had to replace the whole front end on my F350 with 48k miles on it. Could not figure out why a 1 ton work truck I could not grease the front end. Then I climbed under my Tahoe and you can grease the whole front end, And the Tahoe has a aluminum oil pan. Ball joints still solid on it with over 110k miles.
from what i got is price. Ford is good at having huge discounts on their trucks. he said if he could find a chevy/dodge for the same price as Ford he would buy it
I purchased a new 2013 f150, and it was the worst truck experience ever. It had a vibration issue that never got remedied after three years of being in and out of the shop. Ford recalibrated the drive shaft, then replaced the drive shaft. Then they road forced the tires, then replaced rear tires. Then they replaced one of the front tires. Don’t ask me why they would not replace all four tires -that blew my mind. It just continued to vibrate -I nic-named it boneshaker. Finally I just traded it in for a non-ford.
As for the bouncing, a lot of times you can solve it by keeping a few bags of cement or dirt to weigh it down. If the truck is designed to carry a lot of weight when the bed is empty it's like walking on the moon.
I owned one ford.. Full sized 1986 bronco, I bought it in 1990- 91, so it was 4 or 5 years old. Loved it with the top off and I loved it when it ran.. It nickeld and dimed me to death and then it really started breaking down.. Transfercase rebuild , installed lock in lock out hubs, upper manifold gasket, replacement bearings on rear axles... Etc..etc.. I owned one ford, never again.. I replaced it with a 1991 Toyota pick up in 1995 and I loved that truck.. Small but reliable, it did everything I asked it to do.I regret getting rid of it. Then I went back to my roots "Chevy" and had Chevy ever since and I pulled alot with a Chevy 1/2 ton with tow package.. So I want a Toyota to get around in and get firewood, mulch, topsoil and such but my go to for heavier chores is my 1/2 ton Chevy and runs like a raped ape !! Lol...
I'm going to keep this comment short, as a mechanic I would stay far away from new dodges and chevys, dodges have wiring issues and Chevys have accelerated corrosion along with dodge.
my 2008 Silverado has a more comfortable ride than my 2004 Cadillac. Maybe it's the seats, don't know. or maybe the sitting position. but everyone who has ridden in my Silverado always compliments the ride.
They aren't angels either. That nv4500 tranny is junk. You got the lift pump failures causing the injector pump failures. The interior is crap. Then youve got the "65" blocks cracking. All brands of diesels have their issues.
Robert Landry . True. Fix the inexpensive quirks. Done. Still a lot better than these pos Ford's. My 98 has 351xxx miles . Runs better when loaded. My ole mule. Last diesel I'll ever buy because I'll never need another.
John Parrish ford frame??? They are c channel not box frame alltho they are painted while chevys are only waxed and dodge rust but if your doing all that work paint your Toyota frame
I now own five 7.3 Fords. We run a small excavation landscape company and do snow removal in winter months. I regularly look for low mileage 7.3 diesels and buy them up. I am also a paramedic supervisor with our local ambulance service and will testify that the two most reliable units we own are two 2003 7.3 ambulances with over 300,000 miles on them. We have them all at our ambulance service so I will stand up for the 7.3 all day and buy up any with under 150,000 miles all day.
76597659y don't listen to the other guy, yes, bullet proofing a 6.0 makes them extremely good engines. But they have to be done right. (ARP head studs, deleting the EGR and DPF) the enemy of the 6.0 is heat, and the emission cause overhearing. The coupled with a poor head bolt design made them prone to blow heads. Long story short, bullet proof it right, and it will run and run and run.
Brad Harness where do you live? I live in Texas and work at a bucket truck company called Versalift. I believe that we are either the biggest or the 2 biggest bucket truck company in the world. We make very few Ram bucket trucks, probably for every 1 Ram there is 6 fords, and maybe 1 chevy. We don’t do chevys because they don’t make a 4500 5500. Ram is our least, buyer friendly I guess you would say.
I have a 4.8 silverado with 208k, 5.3 silverado with 250k, 2 5.7s Tahoe and sierra with over 250k and 1 4.3 blazer that just hit 290k. All original motors and trannys. Worst repair has been intake gasket on the 4.3. I'd drive any of them anywhere.
05 Yukon with 346k miles still purrs and only problems I had was pulleys and suspension that's it. Still have the original alternator on it. 3 water pumps though but that's expected
Bought new an 03’ F350 srw V-10 6 speed manual 4x4 single cab. Awesome power ,drivability , rode decent compared to mid 80’s GM full-size. 14 MPG OVERALL Truck lived with me til spring of 18’ . Sold it to a logger in Maine. He claims he is still satisfied
A couple things. Ford makes no official claims on fuel mileage for the powerstroke. It is over the gvwr that the EPA requires mpg ratings. So Ford didn't lie. The salesman did. That being said in my experience the powerstroke typically gets the worst mileage of the big 3. Secondly all modern diesels are less reliable and much more expensive than they were 20 yrs ago. If you want the most reliable truck get a gasser. I will never own a diesel truck out of warranty. I've owned an 05 Cummins and an 08 Duramax. Both had issues the Cummins was worse though. I switched to a half ton because I don't need to tow. I wouldn't say Ford is any better or worse than the rest. Just my 2 cents
With emission control they way it is now, no manufacturer can, but as Jade bylund stated, it's required by the EPA to on or rather list mpg ratings. Driving habits, conditions, etc. all make up what your mpg will be.
I'm a concrete finisher halfway through my 31st yr in the sport. I've been a die hard Ford fan since I was born, cause my Dad sold Ford's for the biggest Ford dealership in the midwest my whole life and I never went without food, comfort, or shelter because my Dad cared and he sold Ford's. Outta 31 yrs pouring concrete I've owned a Ford truck of some sort 31yrs, and my own business for 24 of them. Two things you touched on were spot on.... They've made their trucks so advanced and computerized they are about impossible to repair yourself, and that sucks hard. Through all the technological feats of wonder over the yrs, the 2018 f350 gas motor we have averages 11mpg!!! Which is within a mile or two per gallon of my 1976 f250 highboys that I use more and more on a daily basis than I probably should, but I know every part on that truck and it gives me a boner every time I drive it. Our 98f450 with a 7.3 does most of the grunt work for us, and truthfully, it gets about 12 to 14mpg no matter if it's pul(ing our loader(which btw is a brand new Kubota, after owning 3 bobcats since 1996) or not. The truck weighs a little over 10k lbs empty so anybody can say what they want about the 7.3 pstroke, but Say it from experience. Chevy trucks look great, and ride nice, all the way to the grocery store, but even the new ones can only haul about 8bags of groceries before they are toast. I have no data on a Dodge as I've to this day never ridden or drove one. Ford trucks are the backbone of the construction industry, the farming business,the landscaping business, and every other business that needs a truck. You know it and so does Chevy, Dodge, and especially Toyota. I would say if anything your bored of owning Ford's and that's the only reason your considering a different truck.
We had a ford LCF with a dump box on it and it sucked, always lacking in power. My brother has been running a 03 chev 2500HD with the 6L gas as a service truck it has over 500K Km on it and is still running good.
Dodge Cummins... best power, best mpg, enough said. Yes, I push snow and run a spreader and tow. You don't have to pull the cab and stand on your head to change the oil.
I was speaking to a Tripple A guy recently and he said the F450 engines drop engine valves all the time, he said half the fleet is getting the engine rebuilt at any given time
Back in the 70s- 90s diesels where diesels. Scratch that... trucks where actually trucks... gasser or diesel, engines were bulletproof, trucks were made from steel. Then emissions control became a thing, and then engines got worse, and then trucks had to be lighter to compensate for that... and ford is at the forefront of all this trouble. DIEHARD CHEVY DURAMAX💪🏻
Have a 96 z71. 260000 still runs great. Don't think GM will ever make another one this good. Like my '13. Can't beat the ride and drive quality. Gas mileage stinks 14.5 mpg. The 96 on the road with stock tires got 21 and 15 in town. Doesn't matter with the '13 just 14.5 unless my wife drives it. Then it's about 6. Love my 96.
I’m on my first Ford Truck now. Picked up a 2002 4x4 F-150 with the 4.2L gas V6. Had 121k on it. Has 129k on it now. Drove it from Ohio to Florida. I haul wood in it sometimes for work I do on the side. Enough that it’s over the bed rails and it makes the suspension squat and It seems good to me. Not going to break any pulling or speed records, but it has pick up still when it’s loaded. I pulled a girl’s van out that was stuck in mud very easily. Fuel mileage isn’t so good IMO, but I really never checked it. I’m knocking on wood as I write this, because right now it’s my only vehicle. I’m literally trusting everything to a 18 year old F-150 with a V6 until I get a back-up vehicle. It has the crank windows and I love them 😃
I have never had good luck with ford..gas give me a chevy , diesel give me the Cummins all day long. Have a 1st gen it get 20 mpg..its ugly but never stops ok
I use the Duramax trucks everyday. We beat the hell out of em and young guys run em hard with very little problems. My logging work truck has 312k. On and 04 gmc with 1 set of injectors. Not bad if you ask me.
chevy, have the best resale, and seems to last, the oldest truck in the fleet is 05 gmc 2500hd 6.0 gas 360,000 miles, pulling 17k lbs cat 289 with trailer and my 13k lbs 5th wheel all over with no rebuild only normal wearable items alternator, water pump, Etc
I had a 98 f-350 with a 7.3 powerstroke and it’s never let me down, we sold it in 2004 and the guy we sold it said it never had any problems. I now have a 16 f-150 and it’s solid, drives extremely well and gets good mileage
Ya, ok for weekend home owner stuff but you CAN NOT work them like a commercial truck. They use tiny third members, small transfer cases, small u-joints and frames that are too stiff. American 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are built to work. Ok the powertrain might be as reliable as they should be but the frame, suspension, axles and brakes are way better than any other truck. And dont try and say Ford axles suck, or Ram axles suck or even GM axles suck or their suspension sux because it would be a opinion not fact.
@@muddybadgers5205 Not mad. Just dont like comparing work trucks to non work trucks. All f150s, 1500, toyota nad Nissan trucks are not work truck. They can work but are designed to be driven not to be worked.
MoneyMarcMes I seen 5.3 and 4.3 motors with over 300k if you take care of them they last along time till they need a cam shaft,lifters and a oil pump eventually.
I've had a 2010 ford ranger. I loved the little truck that could. In 4 and half years I put about 150000 km on it. It still drives amazing sold it to my friend and he still drives it. Its sitting around 300000km on the truck. It is showing its ago. I now have the 2011 f150 I only had it for three weeks now so I cant say much about. The truck only has 71800km on it. So it's not broken in. And yes that the right kms on the f150. Got the truck off an old guy
Well i happen to love my 1997 Ford F250 Heavy Duty 4×4 truck...its got the 7.3 liter turbo International motor in it...4.10 rear..5speed...four +overdrive....its does well...around 18mpg..i run a bottle of deisel Kleen thru it each month...always used Rotella 15w -40 heavy duty deisel oil in it ...ive had it since it was brand new....its got a 128,000 miles on it now....runs great....
i bought a old 99 f250 v10 6.8L, it had a little issues, but when it came to towing. that truck was a beast. 75mph, 8k travel trailer overdrive off, cruise off. 8mpg. the engine had 300,000 miles on it. figure out what your needs are, and buy what fits your needs. this is the only way to buy.
I just got the same setup with 4x4 and 4.30's. Thing's a beast and gets surprisingly good mileage 10-12 mpg. Haven't towed with it yet but getting set up to do so. 8 mpg towing 8k isn't bad at all. Happy to hear that. Trans needed replacement at 180k, and I rebuilt the clutch packs in the diff at the same time. Other than that, the rest of the truck has about 186k on it now relatively untouched. Runs like a top.
Got a 2005 F250 crew cab, short bed, 2 wheel drive, 6.0 powerstroke with the auto and she just rolled over 273k miles. Only issue I've had out of it was a water pump which I cant really hate on after 270k miles. Otherwise all original. No headgasket problems, no injector issues. Averages 19-20mpg highway and about 13-14 towing. I drive around 40-45k miles a year and shes purring the whole way.
carbs and points are a pain in the ass. I've never had a problem with a fuel injected vehicle to the point where it left me stranded. Can't say the same about carbs.
There is a difference between a driving truck. And a work truck a work truck has a different gear ratio. It is geared for Pulling. A driving truck is made for driving. Top speeds 70 - 80 miles an hour. Work truck top speed about 60 miles an hour and it topped out because of its pulling gear. They start making a lot of noise. Make sure you buy your truck for what you're going to use it for. If you're going to pull your trailer with your little speed boat. You don't need a Duramax or Cummins. But if you're going to pull big heavy equipment. You're going to have a big ass rear end underneath of it big transmission in a big diesel motor getting 8 miles to the gallon. You can get aftermarket computers and you can get the Diesels to get up to 18 miles to gallon. Ford ain't going to get that. I think they got stocking gasoline and oil
As far as diesels you can not beat a Cummins. My dad had a 6.7 2500 and he was getting at least 20mpg and just a little under pulling a 25 foot camper. My brother and friend have 06 5.9 2500’s and also get over 20mpg everywhere. Dodge does have transmission problems but once those are fix with a better aftermarket trans they were fine. I know at least on my dads newer 6.7 it didn’t even have regen.
After being a fleet mechanic, if I ever bought a Ford, I would get the 6.2 gas engine with the 6 speed transmission. I wholeheartedly agree that Powerstrokes are junk excluding the 7.3. 6.7: ceramic turbo bearings that fail. 6.4: overcomplicated and unreliable. 6.0: unreliable in stock form. The emissions systems are complete garbage on all the Ford diesels. I’d say that’s where the majority of costly repairs come in. Tritons suck too, the spark plug situation is always a headache. The 5.4 doesn’t even have cam bearings, the cam just rides up against the aluminum heads until it gets sloppy enough to kill the cam phasers. At that point you’re pretty much looking at a new engine. Some of the older transmissions had a tendency to fail as well but I can’t remember which ones. I’ve never seen a 6R140 fail though and in my opinion that transmission drives the nicest.
I have a 6.2 gasser and it's got 85xxxmiles and it falling apart. It was great until they spring a TSB on me for oil consumption with a cost of $4k to fix.
I have never had a good experience with a truck made after 1999. I'll stick to my 1984 f350 6.9 w/ 5spd manual. Over 600k and still killing it. But that's back when fords were built good.
I wouldnt trade my 97Fordf250 heavy duty truck with the 7.3 liter turbo International motor in it for two new ones now......i love mine....its got the best motor in it ford ever had.....my opinion
have one of those, engine lasted 324K and called it quits. Sucked through a quart every 10 miles. It was tough to find a rebuilt for it. Still far underpowered compared to the Duramax now though.
You also keep saying that the ford diesel doesn’t live up to the hype go with a ram I get 22 high way and 13 pulling a 14 k dump trailer and if the transmission is a concern get the aisen Tran or the g56 manual
Our work trucks are Chevy 2500s, amazing power and fuel efficient. Handles the plows we have no problem. We have brand new, semi new, and old. 2003 is still going great! They all have salters and handles the salt pretty good. Not much areas rust easily. Great vid!
