Why I Don't Use APDS Anymore 

I've started outsourcing editing for some of the videos I record, and this is one of them. I'm trying to relegate them to the transplant stockpile for now, but I didn't have enough time to edit a video for today because shadowplay just decided not to record game audio

“Shell shattered”

As a centurion main i am so sad the apds got nerfed, but the apcbc still works so it isn't to bad

The sabot going *through* his ammo rack and not exploding it would've forced me to buy an entire new setup with the amount of monkey-rage it would've caused in me.

Telling Spookston "Skill Issue" is like telling a proffesional driver to drive better

Literally be suffering in this vehicle for a bit; at point blank range, the APDS couldn’t kill a King Tiger at point blank range from the side. APDS is absolutely tragic

That gave me an idea... You should try the Charioteer. Basically the same gun on much lower BR and on a very fast and nimble chassis (something that you like). Pretty underrated in my opinion. Oh and the ISU-122S obviously.

My friend told me that German tanks were good so i grinded to tiger and panther and I now know in confidence that this is true only if you use them correctly

"And someone said I had a skill issue..." Spookston: "AND I TOOK THAT PERSONAL"

Every time I get the urge to redownload this game, Spookston comes in clutch with clips such as that T-54 engagement and I lose all interest in playing it again. So thanks Spookston!

As a British main, My soul (just like my shells) has been shattered by the nerfs😢 Edit: (glad to know my pain is my most liked comment, so I’ll use this “fame” to ask spook to play the British striker!)

its worth noting that APDS has shell shattering mechanic , something not other shell in the game has ,. so there is chance your shell just disapears , ontop of chance it being "ghost shell" due packet loses.

Hey Spook, you should play the Semovente 75/46 M43. It's a deeply overshadowed italian tank destroyer which can deliver an heavy punch but it's deeply ignored the potential it has. (Day 48)

3:32 IM THE IDIOT WITH THE BIG OLE FACE IN THE IS6 YES I WAS SAVING MY BUDDY WE R BOTH PRETTY NEW

the projectile mass is actually a huge factor when it comes to pen that being said Sabot needs a huge buff especially when it is the UPGRADED shell yet performs worse on some tanks

I tried doing a 1v6 against some friends in my M41. I didn't realize that my sabot was going to shatter every time I shot the front of their Jagdpanthers and ended up getting spawn camped.

The nice "click, boom, BOOM" of APHE is a massive dopamine boost. And then there is solid-shot - which warrants a life-time supply of anti-depressants and therapy.

The APDS really hurts the Chieftain Mk. 3 (and otheres), because you realistically only have the APDS. The penetration of the round is pretty good (good flat pen, angled pen too), the post pen damage is very weird. At times you get less spall than 30mm APDS from a BMP2.

You should make a video on the new French AuF1 it’s pretty fun but also really annoying lmao

I played Vickers Mk.1 yesterday and had a blast. 105mm APDS is pretty good most of the time. I know that thing is pretty unique due to its mobility and very fast reloading on 105mm at 7.7. But two 15kill games in a row were really nice. You should try it before they nerf it. I would say its the best tank in the UK tech tree.

10:38 in hindsight the shot on the driver was probably the safer shot. But it's hindsight innit. As a brit enjoyer I commonly find that Russian fuel tanks are extremely fond of eating my APDS (whether destroyed or not). And even then, if you pen the ammo it very often just refuses to detonate, or detonates and does nothing. Welcome to the british main ground exprience, the air experience is even worse :D

I'm keen on to see how the Type 60 spgr would perform under your hands.

Would love to see you play the Somua SM, it might not be stabilized but its a really fun tank

The shell going right through the ammo rack and doing nothing is not a Sabot thing, it's a "russian tank" thing

I have noticed over the years that full downtiers usually means for me a steamroll loss. As if by magic, very often my shells do not pen. Very strange, as if one side gets buffed or I'm supposed to do 10+ kills to even have a chance at a win. In tanks I could have multiple matches with cotton ball shells and then... in the middle of the match... suddenly my shells start working and I start 1-shooting tanks left and right. In Naval I would get many loss matches with very little kills and then *poof* suddenly I'm starting killing left and right and get the first place win. In that losing streak, if I leave a 0.7-1.0 uptier at the start, the match is most often a win. There is something very screwy going on with all of this.

Imagine if Gaijin focused on realism and fun instead of nerfing or buffing things at random for no good reason.

2:15 this is why I love Spook's videos. This kind of editing never fails to make me exhale through my nose and bring a smile to my face. Keep it up my man

I guess the real benefit of APDS would be the lesser ricochet chance (and yes the better penetration too), but nothing beats post-penetration damage. if you instead use AP(CBC) rounds (preferably with HE filler) that have less penetration, you can compensate with the correct shot placement and reap rewards of the better post-pen damage, because in War Thunder tank crews are made of men with iron morale, who never abandon their tanks even after multiple penetrations. those brave men will continue to do their duties until they are almost all or all dead (depends on the tank, for example in Strv 103 everybody has to die, but in other tanks the last remaining crew member can possibly survive). I'm not saying that I would like to see a morale system in the game in any shape or form, but it's more of an observation about the brutality of gladly fighting to the death inside a steel coffin in War Thunder compared to how common it is to see abandoned tanks in the war in Ukraine. it's almost like people don't actually want to die or see their friends die suddenly in a horrible way, although to be fair ground SB despite its other faults (like the lack of coordination, if you are not in a squad with friends) gets in some ways closer to the more careful approach you see in reality. still it's merely frustrating to be destroyed in one shot by a tank you didn't even see and not literal death. on a final note and despite the comparison to the war in Ukraine I wouldn't actually recommend playing top tier tanks in SB due to thermals among other things, but somewhere between 7.0-7.7 it can actully be pretty fun imo, especially with a friend.

I think it'd be pretty need if you tried the AMX-50 Surbaisse. 6 second 19 round autoloader makes it very interesting to play. The gun also feels quite nice.

i love how the APDS that allowed the British to pen the King Tiger frontally, and British guns in general seem to fire slightly hurtful insults in WT. I would love to see you try Panzer II. Good news: It's a light tank. Bad News: it has trouble penetrating anything

I’m very sad that they nerfed the Sabot because I bought the Swedish Centurion and I used it as a grinding tool but now that it’s nerfed it’s not doing so hot at 7.3. Also you should play the T-34-57 I think it’s a little over powered.

The comet was put at 5.3 because it got a sabot and now it’s AP is worse than the rest of its lineup while having a useless sabot. Edit: there’s also the black prince which should sit at 5.7 but currently sits at 6.0 where it gets constant up tiers and has the misfortune of having to fight 6.7 line ups while not having anything to rely on since it’s sabot is also worthless and it’s armor at that br can’t really be relied on.

I love the centurion ❤

Btw that shot on the T-54 is a common occurrence on Russian vehicles it’s basically “ghost fuel tank” syndrome. Try it with a French AMX-30 (7.7) with heat and shoot the IT-1 in test drive repeatedly in its frontal fuel tank and Watch the fireworks. Also, Spookston, can you play the WZ305 again? Just to get revenge on CAS and tanks?

as you seem to love APDS so much I once again request that you try out one of the Chieftains (Mk 3, Mk 5, Mk 10 or the Khalid). you have already played a better version of the Chieftain Marksman, so there is no need to suffer needlessly, when you can suffer with a purpose.

20-pounder APDS is not that bad in my experience, but the 105 mm and 120 mm got the most nurf and are very weak now.

0:46 Do you think sabot’s lack of damage compared to the APCBC is due to them calculating damage off the “projectile mass” value?

day 94 of asking spookston to play the american M60A3 TTS. If spookston ever checks if my day counter is legitimate, he’ll find out that it’s been going for like 5 or 6 months already. (1 day = each video). I’ll probably have to do it for a little bit more since the new update came out.

As a Marder fan, I laughed incredibly hard when you instantly died from that king tiger, it's almost as if you jinxed yourself.

He shot a tank’s fuel tank with a solid shot and it exploded. He then immediately shoots a tank’s magazine and it does nothing. I will never understand Gaijin’s damage metrics

As a british main I use APDS mainly for the velocity, however I have come to learn where to shoot different tanks and can perform quite well with it, so theres nothing to complain about.

The centurion got moved to 7.7.... why gaijin Why

DAY 36 OF ASKING FOR THE SU100Y, I have hostages

Love this type of Editing. Very Entertaining keep on doing that!

man, i really love the sound effects you put on your videos. i feel it perfectly encapsulates the feeling of playing this game.

Great job on this 'un, hope to see another one soon.

I feel like your editing and jokes have improved a lot, I find all your videos really entrateining but I have never snorted so much at a WT video as this one!

love that you put in oblivion music, played that during war thunder break

10:44 I love this moment it's very inspiring and give me hope to live another day

Gotta say I love the meme edits that are added to the video 😂

Gotta love the lil edits

Dude you didn't have to make us all cry with that intro bro

You had my rolling over the floor with that M56.

Yeah, I've been playing a lot of GB lately and I've just been using APDS like a backup APCR round in other nations tanks for emergencies. Ever since your Centurion MK.2 video, I've tried to primarily only use AP slugs on my GB tanks and it's been working out a lot better! I hope APDS gets some sort of changes soon.

I feel like they've secretly filled all our sabo rounds with APCR, because that's how it behaves lately. 384mm of pen in a 3kg sabo round from a 20pdr: *hits an M48 in the UFP* M48 driver: "aw man i spilled tomato sauce" The rest of his crew: *perfectly fine instead of eviscerated* . Also putting a round into the M48s breach is literally impossible you'll just get shell shattered.

Hey, Spookston ive watched your videos for a long time and really enjoy them. I have a lot of fun playing the M42 or M19A1, the 40mm cannons have a lot of pen for their br and I would love to see a video of you playing them. Also they are both pretty fast and as long as you don't see a KV-1 you can pretty much pen most stuff from the front and almost everything from the sides. I would love to see you make a video on them. Thanks for the amazing content!

nice choice of music, C&C generals is very fitting

I know you've said you don't have many Italian vehicles, but if you get the chance, you should play the Breda 501. Pretty much an 88 flak but it can actually move - at least what I think it's like anyway. Well, cool video. Enjoyed the solid shot pain.

Seeing the changes to low calibre heat and not a whisper about APDS makes me feel even better in my cent

13:21 was my thought exactly, with a head tilt of confusion

that entire bit with the IS-6 was the funniest thing I've ever seen

That opening shoot was jarring as all hell. Didnt expect nostlaiga to hit

generals was one of my favorite CnC games, probly replaying the series soon

Not too long ago, I was playing with a friend. 7.7 Britain with the Cent 3, Action X etc. I didn't know the Sabot nerfs were in effect. Absolutely outplayed an enemy and took 5 sabot shots to take him down, and I was absolutely losing my mind. It was then my friend said to me "Why aren't you using just AP?" like she was doing... It was then I dropped 7.7 to go back to 5.7.

Damn, been watching your vids for quite some time now, always enjoy, never comment, but fuckin´ hell this one is top class!

idk if it was the sleep deprivation but this was one of the funniest installments of spookston to date

7:53 i love that spookston actually has a personal beef with pz iv/70 lol

Every time i rewatch this i get more and more satisfaction out of that IS-6 J’ing out.

I just enlisted into the Air Force and the thing I’m going to miss most is spookstons videos at basic

what's even funnier about the plane at 13:00 is that it has the "Let's Go!" banner as it spins LMAO

I don't know why but that bmp-1 coming from behind that container with the guitar riff cracked me up more than it had any right to do

Hey Spook, I would love to see you play the VBCI

Yes spookston i agree with you fighiting 8.3 am 8.0 apds on the 20pdr is painful and frustrating

Hey Spook. Love your vids. On the T54 pen. It’s upper plate protection is just about at the limit of 20pdr apds. At 60 deg. And gaijin did implement a mechanic where when apds reaches its max penetration it’s post pen suffers. Which it does in real life technically. It’s in one of the recent patch notes. And honestly I think that pen shouldntve killed the ammo from white.

8:48 thats the cutest noise

Spookston: That's really annoying, could you please stop that? IS-3: Stop what? Spookston: Existing.

0:50 I do not know why but the though of his legs getting roasted made me laugh when I shouldn't have

8:53 “eeep” that was adorable

Lol I feel you on the legs being roasted part, I got my PC in my smaller office room of my flat, it's nice in teh winter, I don't need to turn on any heating in the house, but in the summer it sucks ass as there is no air blowing through the room, just past the room in the hallway, I've been considering moving my desk to the living room just to get more air blowing past me in the summers even if it means turning the heating on in the winter.

The meme sound effects keep getting funnier. 10/10

3:50 clearly sacrificing himself for his friend (I play t44)

spookston: is satisfied by 8 kills in an uptier. me when i get 4 kills at any tier: pro gaming

Next video Spookston shatters APDS shells on lightly armoured targets in a montage to the song “I’m Blue”

Love how the IS6 at the start took its own barrel out 😂

I was waiting for this APDS problem we have rn...

One of my favorite of the new vehicles. Play the Rakotenautomat!

My soul. As a Britain main (Mostly South Africa because I am grinding the SA Vehicles), I could feel your pain. Also they said they fixed ghost rounds but didn't. Finally: Day 5 of asking you to play any of the Rooikat variants.

i’ve been having surprisingly good luck with the sabot on the strv 81

Lorraine 40t would be pretty cool to see a video on

0:54 Spookston Graphic card getting the best view while cooking it off 8:54 Spookston Cwute sound :3

would like to see you playing the Japanese STA 3 because its such a nice fighter for its BR and has a great reloading time with aphe

Absolutely love the inclusion of memes in your videos, 10/10 improvement to your content and your commentary

spookston really out here saying “eep”

U should try the sabot of the Leopard 1 , its surprisingly good

Hi Spookston! What sound mod are you using? I mean the game sounds, not the crew. Thanks!

Just unlocked the 4202. One of the best tanks i have ever played so far... If a little bit on the slow side. I also found the APCBC to spall much more than the APDS but i don't have the same "shell shattered" or "do no harm" problem that everyone seems to have...

Ammo racks after a sabot goes through them: "Is someone there? Must've been the wind"

6:04 dang, 4K looks great

8:53 "Eeeeep" -Spookston 2023

I like the m60a1 sabot round, goes through the front of T-55am’s pretty reliably