Why I Fell Out Of Love With Fanstoys 

As plain as acoustic wave was, I liked that they included the extra bits so you could “diaclone” him out if desired. I hope they go this route with future releases. That way, people wanting sunbow accuracy can get their fix and those wanting a bit more personality can do so as well.

Can't say I have the same gripes about the toon esthetic, but I do agree with release timing and communication. I passed on two reasonable offerings of an MP Blitzwing, feeling that FaaaaanToooooys was going to drop theirs in a timely fashion to compete, and not a damn peep from'em. I came to the conclusion some time ago, that they tease characters their competitors are also working on in order to undercut them. Whether that dirty method works or not doesn't change the fact that afterwards, they proceed to seemingly drop the current project to repeat the process of steeling competitors' thunder. I recently preordered FT's take on UltraMagnus, but believing what I know about their tactics I caved, and bought XTB's version too. Why? Because I, rather we, have no idea when or if FansToys will deliver without any real communication; and I'm done passing on other good offerings. If the XTB Magnus is good, then I may drop my FT preoder, and I don't think I'm alone here. Now here's the real kicker, while FT's sitting on their laurels, other companies are catching up to their standard of quality. So, what happens then? I think we're already seeing the answer in XTB and Deformation Space. Anyway, sorry for the long comment Mr. Skullface. These Saturday discussions are great by the way. I forget to drop "thumbs up's" sometimes; my bad.

The Fanstoys community is toxic. I love the products but the hardcore fans are just nasty people in all of the online interactions I have had.

7:28 Reason #3 alone would sour me on any company.

Agree with all three of these points. I would add the Fans Toys strategy of putting out vacuous renders of the same figures of XTransbots >>right

You are so honest, clear and trasparent! Completely agree with you.

I totally agree with you, but from the point of view of not being a fan. I think they've lost their "approach", so that they mix toon accurate color with tune accurate sculpts and yet there's a lot of chrome that doesn't belong to the look they've chosen (Hoist, I'm looking at your legs). Take Mirage's and Jazz's shoulder cannon: the first is chrome, the second is silver: why?!? Last but not least: Fanstoys going weird with some choices would not be a problem if we had plenty of third party companies currently at work but the truth is that it is not: only Takara and X-Transbots are in the game of toon-inspired G1, apart from Fanstoys. -Transform Element/Deformation Space is currently selling off their stuff and will be out of business for a while. -Ocular Max is only releasing beauiful combiners that would fit in some collections but won't in most. -DX9 is out of business and doing reprints only, which is good if you missed out something -Zeta/Moon Studio will spend the next years working on that Primus, which is not for everybody (including me) -Maketoys, well, I don't believe in any comeback from them, so to me they're out of business. -Gigapower keeps re-releasing those dinobots (which are not my cup of thea) -Magic Square: I don't think they'll do more masterpiece releases

Agreed. I also hate how they treat other companies

🔥 🔥 🔥 Damn I want that Blitzwing.

I hate Fans Toys for the simple reason that their prices are whacked. 200+USD for a Soundwave is insane. And I don't know how many thousands their Fort Max is gonna cost.

I personally was never a fan of them. Their headsculpts are ugly to say the least, they're hella expensive, with goofy tolerances and they don't pose well. And I can excuse the squeaky materials, because FT products breaking is extremely rare, so if squeaky materials means no breakages, then I'm cool. The reason I don't like em is because they're just not fun. They're not fun to transform due to overcomplication, they're not fun to mess with because of the tolerances. They're just to sit on a self and look good with their metallic paint. So I'm actually liking where their heading, with simpler and more effective transformations, with their Preceptor, Croc, Soundwave, Mirage and maybe Jazz, we'll see. Sorry for the whole Ted talk I just wrote 😂

I think the key with the dino bots would be to make the gold bits interchangeable with yellow painted pieces

@bobby skullface Love your reviews. Love the personality, and how you speak your mind. Highly intelligent. Your mannerisms are distinct and unique. /respect

Fantastic video. Lays out exactly the problems with the company while still highlighting what they’re doing right.

I sympathise. Whilst I am very critical of Fanstoys and have few of their products, it makes me happy to see from afar the joy they brought you and I hope they see this video and make improvements. I would like to add a different perspective to some of the things you noted. I think some of the things you noted are not new, they have just reached the point where they are unpalatable to you. I would join you in criticising the uber-'toon aesthetic, lack of shiny paint and chrome and parroting Takara's MP style but, in my opinion, they have always parroted Takara's style rather than having their own. Their early products, Quakewave and Dinobots, were very clearly in the style of MP10 Prime and MP Grimlock. They have incremented that style following in Takara's footsteps until the point where, for you, they have jumped the shark. More simply, you draw a distinction between incomplete Blitzwing and incomplete combiners. This is the same behaviour on their part - not delivering on their promises in a timely manner and not communicating what's going on to the fans. But it has reached the point where it's beyond your tolerance. Those of us that criticise FT's release schedule, certainly in my case, are not criticising how prolific they are but the time between announcement and delivering and the number of new announcements - often taken all the way to completion and delivery - that come between the announcement and (maybe) fulfilling that promise. If you're buying everything they put out, being prolific is the relevant factor; if you spread your business between multiple third parties, you need to be able to count on them and you can't. I find your second point an interesting one. On the one hand, I agree that completing the early season characters first gives people an option of tapping out at that point leaving those who want to stay in less likely to get the later-run characters. On the other hand, I find it deeply frustrating when companies 'milk' the famous characters to stretch out the line to the point where it often causes the line to never complete any of the lineups - Thundercats would be a good example (I think it has got there, now, but seems to have had multiple 'false starts' of this kind that doesn't inspire confidence to get in on the line in the first place). I think lines need to strike a good balance between completing teams and including, and working towards completing, more obscure teams - the modern CHUG line will shortly complete the autobot car lineup having already completed the Decepticon jet lineup and TF:TM cast (all for the second time) - this inspires confidence that they will follow-through on their minibots, combiners and pretenders. This is easier in CHUG, though, as new child fans kinda don't care which Transformer is which so their purchases can support the release of lesser characters. If Maketoys' mooted return works out, competition from their stylish, (notwithstanding coneheads) timely, good value MP releases would give me some MP releases to be excited about whilst hopefully leading to you getting better out of Fanstoys.

I'd gladly take Dinobots done in toon colors.

You miss old Fanstoys for their unique aesthetic look at a Masterpiece scale, I miss Fansproject for the same as a Classic collector. Maketoys is still around but aren't focused on that any more. If someone, or even Fansproject, came back to revisit those "Adult take on G1 Characters" at a Classics scale, I think there would be interest in it vs the current mainline Hasbro going full on G1 look and feel.

Excellent points made across the board. FT was known for leading the way and skiing their own thing and now it seems like they're just Going ultra G1 and just releasing figures to block Xtransbots. They've been improving engaging with the customer with upcoming releases, but they really need to follow up more with their older projects. I pray 2023 brings you a Deadend sir!

Re: the decision not to put chrome on blaster. I saw someone throw an absolute fit because Xtransbots decided to give their Ultra Magnus a white pelvis instead of just a white belt on a red pelvis. I initially thought it was a child posting but it was actually someone in their late 30's ranting and raving and I quote "This is inexcusable. The designers are morons. Anyone who likes this version is a shill for the designer or an idiot with no taste". Designers really should not be letting people who behave like that influence their production decisions.

I've been saying for a while that this franchise as a whole and 3rd party specifically is never going to survive if it's dictated by G1/Sunbow designs. Bobby's right about the Season 1&2 fans. Once they're fed, the kitchen's closing. We need to mix up the offerings - that's what made 3rd Party and Transformers collecting so exciting a decade ago.

I don’t know about the Blaster chest. G1 Sunbow slave or not, that gold chest comes outta left field. Toon, toy, comic, it’s never had that representation. It’s not a rewarding risk. It just looks bad. This is a change I’m happy for.

This is an interesting video. Your overall message was very true. As a FansToys fan myself, I do agree with you on the failure of them to complete the combiners. I agree totally that we will eventually get the missing ones we need, but I’ve seen a lot of collectors back out of the game, and sell off their own stuff because of the huge pushback of the ones we need to complete our combiners. And the same holds true with Blitzwing. He’s a big one I need to complete that shelf, and I don’t feel as though the other companies have made a really good version. While I do like the more “cartoon”approach that FansToys has done, I would like to see more bots in the Season 3 & 4 groups to add more to my shelves.

Yep, I hate the fanbase for being the slaves of the silly toon aesthetics. Wanted that gold chested Blaster bad.

I look at it this way: While Fanstoys is pretty and I will buy certain figures they release, I've come to realize that I want more than Season One of G1 (S1 G1). I want more obscure G1 characters, and to that end X-Transbots is stepping up and filling that need. I want newer characters and more IDW-inspired figures. And for the most part Mastermind Creations have been my go-to (although I AM worried that they are supposedly cycling down on the Reformatted line). I also want to see other Transformer lines represented. More Animated and more Prime specifically. No one has really stepped up for that yet. I've been a fan of Transformers since they first appeared. And my tastes are more than just G1. And I am not alone in this. To stay strictly in S1 G1 is to stagnate...

The shout out to Boyz II Men helped to confirm I made a great decision to subbed 😁 great video as always friend 🤗 Hope to see a TFC Toys review of their Hun-grr this year (fingers crossed)

I've always wanted a toon accurate collection and I'm enjoying the new way Fans Toys has been going.

The more toon accurate the better for me. Love the direction FT and Tak have been going. Never liked the toy aesthetics.

What pisses me off the most are the placement and sizing of the areas where you’re supposed to put the faction symbols. Check it out. It’s as if they do it intentionally so they can make future improvements and sell more product. Additionally, the colors and schemes they use also seem to be done for the same reasons. Look at Phoenix and how the red paint on the legs is different from that of the jet pack… why? The ONLY reason is so they can “correct” it in future versions/releases. Weak. Worse yet is that this all goes largely unnoticed by the fanbase and is blindly accepted, enabling them to continue the practice? Weird.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN COLLECTING SINCE the early years , All we got was mixed toon and real world , for years , we never got Toon, and now that we have it, some Few people are complaining,,, I’m so HAPPY THE FANSTOYS HAS GONE SO TOON, and I HOPE THEY CONTINUE, and guess what , those few complainers will still collect FANSTOYS… I guess I’m old school, but I don’t care for real world, I want to escape to my dream g1 world, I understand where this video is going , it’s all OPINION , and just like mine , to each is own… MAD LOVE , but let’s AGREE TO DISAGREE

As far as characters FT selects, I’d like s1 and s2 seeing regular releases, but they also need to keep a sprinkling of those obscure characters between them. Personally I want those head/targetmasters.

Not feeling fanstoys like I used too,sold my Stunticons(w8n 4 Menasor)my whole collection except for some DECEPTICONS,but it's not 4 the same reasons as you, don't like all the shady business practices from online retailers in the US especially I understand prices have gone up due to shipping and materials being more expensive but there should be NO reason why @showZstore its about $30-$80 cheaper for mostly all their releases, im not loyal to any company especially like u said that Blitzwing I paid $220 upfront and from what I hear they have scrapped the design again that's 3x already so at this point I'm like whatever, but they are the best imo as well...thanx for the video 👍

I can't help but agree with you on this. I don't dislike the more cartoon-oriented designs at all, but I can't help feeling like some characters LOOK better with the extra "toy" and "real world" touches Takara MPs and most of the 3P companies used to get, hence why I recently chose XTB Dante over MP33 when I had the choice to make. I don't feel the opinion strongly enough to say I've fallen out of love with one company or another, but that's largely because my budget has never really allowed for very many MP-scale figures. In fact, I only just ordered my first-ever FT figure - Outrider, largely on the back of your review and the VS with XTB Aegis. So I'm excited to see what all the fuss has been about for so many years, and I hope they can right the ship and stick around for a long time.

Yellow and Grey in cartoon do seem as though they'd be gold and silver in toy form.

The main thing I've gotten really tired of is every company trying to make the same character. I love options as much as anyone, but there was a day way back in the beginning of third party Transformer figures where each company made their own thing. We've never needed 5 options for Springer, but we do need 5 Technobots. If companies don't stop trying to put each other out of business, they'll all go down eventually.

I totally get it, the deadend/bandit fiasco is absurd. For it to have gone this long with absolutely NO info regarding what is happening is ridiculous and quite frankly insulting. Doesn't stop me buying their stuff tho 🤣🤷

1:1 Toon accuracy is an abomination

I'm relatively new to this but what you said about warpath hits me exactly. That's what I want. I want real "GROWN UP" transformers. I'm a little older and I watched those "G1"cartoons. I like them, what a fantastic thing they started, but honestly, the animation is really dated. You put that into words perfect.

High prices. Hard to access. Any company playing hard to get by high prices and exclusivity, is just asking to NOT be loved.

And yeah, I agree with you with the lack of transparency through their lack of communication (like Super 7), as it’s offensive for all of us (their consumers) who will eventually forget their trustiness and commitment by support something that does not deliver our expectations.

Actually, it was the super toon-accurate look that sparked my interest in Fanstoys and Transformers in general. Their older models, while looking great have some stylized look that just don't interest me. I am an 80s kid and it is that look that tugs on my nostalgia strings and brings me back to those good old days.

That’s honestly why I left as well. It was a hard break up. But, we did have a one off vacation fling with their soundwave. I ate that up like thanksgiving dinner. But after that we parted ways and went on our own separate journeys.

Yep. Keep the overall toon form of the character, but add a bit of logical detail and sophistication.

Bobby "say it ain't so Mack?" Face!

Fantastic video man.

Im falling out of love with collecting transformers because i already own good enough representations of most characters i care about. Also: i my main love is the cartoon: sunbow transformers

They should do a yellow version of the Dinobots. Re use that mold. One more time.

Get that fan ready for next summer.

Si... I agree... That Windblade might not be perfect, but FK yeah! Her design is beautiful!!

Haven’t watched too much of your stuff lately but this caught my attention

I 100% agree with the sentiment on FT and their combiners. I originally watched this video and thought nothing of it, but then I looked back at the Menasor wars videos that had people hyped on which company would make the better combiner. It was initially FT vs. XTB vs. DX9 which was super fun watching reviewers compare limb bots and Motormasters between the 3 companies. But the most anticipated comparisons was between combine modes. After a year it pretty much devolved to XTB vs. DX9 since the FT releases were so slow. Once XTB and DX9 fully released the combine mode videos were made and that was it. The hype is completely gone and the last Stunticon release is going to lifelessly cross the finish line because the people that wanted a Menasor already have one, and have had one for a year now (rocking DX9 myself). And lets be real, how many decades would we have to wait for a reissue? I like Fans Toys and wanted to go in on their combiners; but come one man, I would not like to wait till the end of time for my aerialbots or stunticons to be completed

I agreed with you, i'm pissed about the combiners and my blizwing order went dead becaue the company fold. I stop buying FT.. that just me becuaes there are too many empty promise i don't like about them.. and the reissues after reissues and price just go up and up.. that is so BS to me.! Thanks for the video! great talk!

Like any relationship, clear and constant communication is important.

Agreed!! Some don't realize that the cartoons were drawn the way they were to make animating easier. More detail = more time/difficulty animating.

You are absolutely right ..they should let us know about blitzwing and others transformers as well

I prefer the cross between more accurate real world vehicles and a good looking figure that well represents the character.

If Fanstoys did the Dinobots again in cartoon animation color.....I'd buy 2 sets.

The G1 cartoon is what got me into wanting to collect G1 masterpiece transformers, the G1 cartoon is what got me out of wanting to collect G1 masterpiece transformers….

Expertly articulated. Agree wholeheartedly. Have you considered writing a book?

I went with their Stunticons. Given the success of their past creations, I thought it was a no brainer, here we are several years later still waiting on the final. Another sad fact is that they have been pricing themselves out of the greater market.

I agree with everything you’ve said. The time it’s taken to finish the combiners has been insane…and we still have no info on a finished Menasor. Someone in a FB group brought to my attention that the face sculpts have changed…there’s no more “line work” in the sculpts. I know that goes hand-in-hand with the toon/sunbow aesthetic, but it does take some of the flavor away from their figures. It’s a real shame, cause the figures still look good, but they don’t look different enough imo

For me it's how they handled Blitzwing. I was just getting into collecting figures around the time they announced their version of him. Blitzwing being one of my favorites I was really interested. Now I didn't preorder him as I prefer to wait until release and hear reviews before I make my final decision. Well here we are years later and nothing. I like their offerings but fanstoys is far too expensive for me. I was only willing to get Berzerk because well Blitzwing but I don't know if they will ever release him. Last I heard they were redesigning him and that was three years ago. In the end I went with mechfanstoys and I am perfectly happy with it. I even got their astrotrain and I'm just as happy with that figure too. Overall I hope FT can adapt and regain some of their style through a rerelease of certain figures or come out with parts to replace certain aspects of figures to make them more of FT style. I don't know but one can hope.

I ditched them after I saw what newage age and magic square is doing. Legends masterpiece is the future imo.

I'm so thankful and greatful for Fanstoys....they make figures I couldn't even imagine in my wildest dreams owning as a kid. Long live the KING!

I’m not crazy about the toon crazy look too. I like the combination of Toy and toon look. Quakewave and the Dinos are a great example. I wonder if they can do what they did with Soundwave and Cyclonus. Give us the option of changing the looks with parts forming.

With all Transformers releases in MP scale, the big issue for newer collectors is availability and can my wallet afford it at the release time. I know there are people who will say "that is what pre order deposits are for" or wait closer to release time, the deposit is not the issue, it is when you came into the collecting space for that pre order is more likely to be sold out or you are waiting for a week after release for your wallet to recover so you can buy it to find out it is sold out. If people say the best MP releases are by Fanstoys, I know people will then understand this and why when people like myself who are late in the game want Menasor or Superion by Fanstoys our hope is either re-issues or hope when the final combine bot comes out that they will set it in a set. That said, I am greatful there are Bobby who are out there showing us alternatives to Fanstoys and Takara

Well said.

Man, just been collecting for a year and I would realllly reallllly want to know what an experienced collector thinks of the MakeToys Transformers.

I'm definitely only interested in toon accuracy but I hear what your saying. For me I think what makes me want to get a figure is if it looks to me what I saw on screen had jumped right off of it. Which is probably why the only transformers I really buy are G1 toon accurate MP scale and live action movie accurate(enough) figures.

I understand your opinion and I even agree with most of it but I like the G1 cartoon aesthetic and my main issue with FT is related to the lack in articulation.

Their release schedule is wonky, though, while they do put out figures regularly it will more often be a figure they revealed recently while they still have a hand full of grey prototypes of various unfinished and unreleased bots people are still waiting on. They also have a tendency to focus on getting out whichever product is best going to cut other 3P companies off at the knees. No one else is doing a Blitzwing, so FT isn't focused on pushing him out. But X-Transbots is doing another Ultra Magnus, so here comes FT revealing theirs and putting it on the fast track to market.

I too have fallen out of love with FT, not because they've gone in the 'toon direction but because they don't do it well enough, IMO. I don't believe XTB makes a figure as good as FT does, at least consistently, but I much prefer their design aesthetic.

Personally I don't mind chrome if it's used in the right place and not over used. Me personally I prefer chrome to be kept to just the figure's eyes and Sword blades

My "love" for Fanstoys faded when I saw how downright PETTY they are with regards to other 3rd party companies and vendors. Deformation Space came out with a good looking Blaster and Fanstoys immediately announced theirs with renders that make it look near identical just to steal sales from a new 3P company. And Fanstoysl's blaster probably won't be out till mid-2023 so FT just announced when they did to hurt a newcomer. KFC puts Ditka up for pre-order and Fanstoys announces their own Blitzwing with STILL hasn't seen the light of day. Xtransbots announces an Ultra Magnus and just before it rolls out to retailers Fanstoys announces their own Ultra Magnus. Sus timing? Definitely. They can't let any other 3rd party company have a little breathing space, they have to aggressively squeeze them out if they can and that hurts consumers. People want their favorite characters and they don't want to wait half a decade for Fanstoys to deliver if they ever do. Fanstoys never had any intention of getting their Blitzwing out to be competitive with Ditka, they just wanted to deflate KFC/XTB a little. Fanstoysl's Ultra Magnus is probably 3 years out and they still want to deflate XTB while trying up preorders for who knows how long. Fanstoys makes a good product for the most part, but as a collector I want options and THEY want to make it so that they're the only option aside from Takara.

Absolutely Agree Bobby...and yes I want the Gold plated Chest Blaster. The painted chest just looks like a Improved KO of DS Blaster.

Wait, the BingoToys Windblade a stolen design? That's the first I'm hearing of that.

The fact that they are announcing and releasing other figures before finishing the combiner teams should annoy people way more than it does, but they just keep buy FT's releases, so I guess I can't blame them. They already know the people that are 3-4 robots deep are gonna buy that 5th one, whenever they get around to it.

I could not collect Fanstoys when they would not restock Dinos ....long time ago....

I wonder if they even consider the possibility that seasons 1 and 2 cast could be completed at some point. I'll be really surprised if anyone pulls it off.

Hope you get the XTB Magnus in for review, it's really solid.

Hello Bobby, I’ve never message you before, I’ve been watching your videos for about 2/3 years now. I know you’re not looking for praise, but I’ve heard you say that from time to time that the tone of some feedback has made you consider whether to carry on publishing material . I don’t think I’ve got anything it hasn’t been said by many others before however I just wanna add my voice to those who truly appreciate your efforts and output. You are really the only reviewer /commentator in this field I consistently watch. I Even watch some of your videos where I’m not interested in the item or topic, but i always enjoy your delivery /presentation another Trait of yours that I often find Lacking elsewhere is the depth You’re going to explain and present your views /insight into the many issues and question surrounding the industry and the hobby I love that you pose questions and observations that (for those of us, who want to ) can makes us question our stances and consider alternative views and possibilities etc. I Also, really appreciate how patient you are explaining yourself again to those that challenge or pull you up - Especially when people seem to have misunderstood you previously- I have to say I think you always express -explain your self clearly and state if your view is subjective or objective. Enjoy more than happy to put your hand up when you have made a mistake . Also When I hear you say your preference for the style / finish of masterpiece transformers is a more mature yet heavily G1 inspired look - you make me realise I’m not alone in that view. I’m becoming increasingly disappointed with G1 cartoon slave representations of nearly ever new release (not just FT, but XT B and others ) With less details, drab colours where what should be silvers, chrome and bare metal are Increasingly represented by flat dull greys and white -if nothing else, it makes these increasingly expensive pieces look far cheaper than they actually are, and for me , many pieces have far less presence . Your example of FT’s Warpath don the Dinobots was spot-on! Me, these representations are is near perfect I ever hope to get- yet they would not be released like this they were designed in the current design style! So really Point of this message from my as 48yr old life long Transformers and Star Wars fan / collector from SE London, United Kingdom , I just want to say thank you to you (and the support you receive from your wonderful family ) for what you do , and the extra joy and insight and community you give to this hobby. I really enjoy what you do and my weekend doesn’t feel right if I haven’t watched ‘sit down Saturday’! All the best! Mark. T

Earth just lost its greatest defender

"What if transformers came out now , but not for 5 year olds, for 40 year olds" 😒😒😂😂🤣🤣

I agree that some characters don't need more versions, like Optimus Prime. MP44 is enough. On the other hand, Gears is one of those I'm desperate to get because others haven't nailed it yet.

Would love to hear your thoughts on what’s going on at Dorkside Toys. Unless you’ve already talked about it on a podcast. I’ve been so busy lately I’m pretty behind

Yeah i fell out love to Fanstoys, but Robot Paradise seems kinda cool.

Sunboners are holding the hobby back. 😌

Totally agree that Fans Toys trying to emulate Takara's more cartoon-accurate style is a huge misstep. I personally hate that aesthetic direction. You hit the nail on the head; cartoon accurate proportions with more realistic, grown up details is perfect. This is what Takara and Fans Toys used to do, and I loved it. Those Fans Toys Dinobots are spot on, perfect examples of this. But the blocky, simplistic, basic colors of the cartoon aesthetic are really not my cup of tea. You're right that Fans Toys doesn't need to do this, and it's been a big reason why I too am losing some love for this company.

Long live Fans Toys!

I agree with everything you said in this video. I, thankfully, did not put down any money down on Blitzwing; however, it’s disappointing not to see a proper representation on my shelf, fortunately, I added it to my TF Source stack, but didn’t put any money down on it. I love looking at masterpiece combiners, but I don’t collect a lot of masterpiece Transformers in general-only select favorites. Based on the FansToys track record with combiners, and lack of room in my apartment, I won’t be getting any combiners anytime soon. Godspeed to those that do.

And yeah... You are quite objective and honest with your opinion about this 3rd party. They just fkng rock and have a understimated taste to be admired.

I agree about the personal style of aesthetics. I'm old. I grew up with GoDaiKin, Diaclone and Micronaughts. I like the chrome. Even though Toy World's construction quality is sometimes lacking, I LOVED their re-imagination of G1 characters of Kup and Springer. If Toy World and Fanstoys could collaborate that would be great. Same with GigaPower. I LOVE the size and look of the Chrome dinobots but some of the construction has issues. I guess it's a trade off. I'm bored with the constant recreating of the old G1 Transformers. I long for a proper chrome Transmetal line or a badass TF: Prime line. I was elated to see a third party version of Arachnid. Now, give me a Masterpiece, third party BULKHEAD. And YES, I loved Big Fire Bird's Mocha "Arcee". I did NOT like that they decided to ditch the woman face and give it a f*cking little girl face. But to see THIS kind of re-imagining is encouraging.

I love Fanstoys! I think they're the Best Transformers company manufacturer outhere. My problem is..there Shady Business practices. Which now appears to have gone away! Because people are no longer willing to pay.

I'm with you, especially for the first reason. i love their first releases. like you said. toon inspired, but with the fanstoys touch. I hope they are listening, because they're going to lose me as a customer

Yeah you've definitely got a few good points in that video.

I hate how companies are doing combiners where the torso of the combined mode is just a hollow shell with a bot folded up inside. I understand that they are trying to get a better sculpt for the combined modes but it just seems like a lazy way to do it.

I'm curious when the combiners are done, will they wait a long time before they gonna make another attempt?

Bobby I'm digging you're tackling controversial topics. Keep at it!!

The G1 cartoon is what got me into wanting to collect G1 masterpiece transformers, the G1 cartoon is what got me out of wanting to collect G1 masterpiece transformers…. It’s fucked.

I've been out of the third party game for a number of years now, and never looked back.

Leaning into the cartoon style is a mistake. I do want it to be character accurate but my sweet spot is "imagine what the cartoon would have looked like without having to be churned out fast, then give me toys of that cartoon".