Why I find Stray Kids friendly, or Some reasons to fall into this fandom 

Wow, I couldn't spell that better! I hope his leadership would be recognised more! Overall I'm fully agreeing with your words, you wrote everything just on point!

@@machgirl6385thanks! You can tell how much the boys, their music, and STAYs mean to Chan. I love him with all my heart. ❤️

He is also just as protective of their staff other people they work with,and very quick to tell us not to blame them for things, especially if it was out of their control. Always being sure to praise them and thank them, giving them the credit they deserve.

@@seniorkittystay yes! He’s honestly the best guy ever. He’s everything. Calm, kind, smart, outgoing, respectful, helpful, loving, caring, beautiful, talented, funny, adorable, sweet, considerate.. the list never ends with him. ❤

I'm 43 and I can totally relate lol. I've never loved any musician/s as much as I love StrayKids. Prince was my all time favorite musician for many years but then I discovered our boys and they quickly took his place. I never understood how people could cry for an artist or artists at concerts (for ex. The Beatles, Michael Jackson) until I found SKZ. Now I get it lol. I think it's because SKZ put so much of themselves out there that you are able to develop a deeper connection with them and truly feel a sort of real friendship or feel like you're part of their family. I truly care for and worry about them which is strange when I've never even met them lol. But yeah, SKZ have a way of making us feel connected which is quite beautiful.

@@SKZemiliaSTAY I´m so happy to hear that I´m not the only one 😄 for a while I thought I was having a middle-age crisis 🤪🤣🤣🤣 but then I saw reactions from people older than me and how much they like them and I got comfort in that (not that I care what others think of me anyway 😅). You are right!! I worry so much about them that every time something happened I want to take a plane to Corea and just hug them and console them🥺 Hope to see you around in Stayland!! 😂😘🥰

Honestly I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I have to say that I saw many people who were about 56-66 in comments to my previous vid (now hidden, too much attention to me)! They were so nice and so seem you!

@@machgirl6385 Thanx!! 🥰😚 I´m from Mexico btw so that´s added to my age that´s why their slogan "Stray Kids all around the world..." although I´m obviously not a kid they make me feel like part of their family!! 🥺 🤗💞

It makes me so happy to see stays who are from different age groups and demographics! Just shows that it doesn’t matter who you are, you can still appreciate Stray Kids for what they do 💖 I’m closer to their age and they feel like friends I would meet at school

Me too I'm a Nigerian stay and I enjoy skz music a lot, and I've met many stays at my school it's really amazing. It's nice seeing other Nigerian STAYs.

Yes! Nigerian Stays unite!!

Wow I'm also a stay from Nigeria but I've never meet any other stays yet😭😭😭😭

Everything in your video and comments is so interesting that I watched a couple of times!!.I have learned so much !!.

Wow, thank you for commenting! Honestly the "mommy" vibe was just my first thought when my bestie just tried to get me into the fandom, and even on the producing step for this video I already had some doubts about it, huhhu. So yeah, rich auntie might be much more fitting! Also it's embarrassing to say, but for the most part I know SKZ, I always forget Hyunjin when I count them or make jokes :") (you should blame my STAY bestie for this, she doesn't send me enough memes with him, lol) Also I agree with both points anyway, just because videos from the recent concerts just scream that Minho is more of "let us do some mischief my kids" side, and as much as I know about Hyunjin, he really does look caring about others nearby. Sadly I'm not too deep into fandom to say for sure :') Anyway thank you for your comment!

@@machgirl6385 the "rich auntie" vibes just cemented on me bcuz of the skz family lol Also, it's okay that you forget 1 or 2 members since as you said at your earlier vids that you're just starting to know them or your opinion comes from a perspective of a non-fan, that is very understandable. And welcome to Stayville(assuming that u r deciding to be a stay... or not I guess, everyone is welcome to the fandom)(I mean skz says it literally "stray kids everywhere all around the world) Thank you so much for making the video have a nice day🥰

​​@@machgirl6385 It's sad to read that you forget about Hyunjin, cause he is the reason I've become Stray Kids' (and kpop) fan in my thirties. If your friend doesn't provide you with enough informations about our beloved Lovestay Boy, let me give you some info about him: Believe me when I say that his heart is even more beautiful than his visuals (like all of the Kids' hearts to be honest, they all are true angels) but as someone who's been a stay for 3 years already, I've never met anyone like him. The best way to describe him is to say that he's been written by a woman. Hyunjin is an INFP, he's very introverted person. He likes to work on choreography and songs all alone, to spend time alone, mainly on painting or watching sad romantic movies after which he cries a lot, he likes to walk along Seoul streets alone and take pictures of everything around him, his spends most of the time on painting, he has a whole painting studio in the dorm, his room is full of his paintings, dried flowers and candles, he reads and writes poems, he's like a modern bohemian, that came out straight from a romantic book. His heart is full of love for art in every form, especially for dancing, he treats dancing not as just his work but a passion, he has really artistic soul, he can't help but creating art, trough his dancing, choreographing, painting, photographing, composing, writing songs and even making bracelets. But the most impressive part of him is his hard work and perfectionism. He was working so hard to be where he is now, because when he came to the company he had 0 skills. He'd been practicing dancing 18 hours a day, slept 2 hours, went to school and back to practice room to be able to catch up. From 0 skills he worked his way up to the top of kpop dancers in such a short time it's insane. Many times I've seen people comparing him to Taemin, Kai and Jimin because of his incredible skills and charisma. Hyunjin once said: "Bragging about something you didn't work for is so lame" and he lives up to this motto he created for himself. He needed to work crazy hard cause he didn't know how to dance, rap or sing and he's a perfectionist and workoholic. When he gets into sth, he gets into it with his whole soul and heart, turning it into passion. His favourite genre of music is slow, simple piano, emotional songs like Billie or Colde, rock, but also slow sexy r&b and this is the genre of songs he mainly creates (he's made many songs already, but released only 3 😢), he can also compose, the piano chords in "Little Star" and "#Lovestay" are composed by him. I just love everything about him and the most his hopeless romantic, philosophy and artistic soul, the way he pours emotions into everything he does and also the way he enjoys the smallest and the littlest things and can find a small happiness in everything he does, which he often shows in his vlogs. At the end I just want to share with you one of his messages to us: "I bought a book about flowers recently. (...) The reason I like the meanings of flowers is even when I don't like people I remember that someone out there must have given a flower a beautiful meaning. I like these people, that's why my love for humanity doesn't cool down. There are a million reasons why the world is a warm place, so i don't want to be cold just because of a few reasons it's not. If i just find a reason that it's warm and shake off the cold world, don't you think my body will grow used to the warmth and forget about the cold someday? Don't think about your struggles when you walk down the streets and see the same flowers you always do. Just think about how that color of flower has become more beautiful because of the meaning that someone gave to it. If you happen to remember this words again, maybe your footsteps will become a little lighter and maybe the heaviness in your heart will go away a bit. Small but certain happiness might not really seem like a big deal but I hope you get your certain happiness. We live trying our best in everything, may it be for work or road to success, but i don't think we make lots of efforts for our happiness, so i hope you can make an effort to smile. It’s important." Sometimes I wonder if this boy is real... 😢 He seems like he came from a different world, he's so delicate, romantic and full of love 😢 And his passionate stage alter-ego and drama queen mode is completely different part of his amazing personality. He is the type who has "the old soul", he doesn't follow trends, he doesn't care much about the outside world, he hates TikTok and doing agyo and never fails to show it, when he's forced to doing it, he believes in hard work and skills, rather than quick fame, and when he's on stage he is unstoppable and acts like he's been born there, going all out and performing with crazy energy that made him so popular and made him go viral so many times. If you have any questions or need some memes with him, I'll gladly help you to know him better 🥰

@@foreverstay7805 , first of all, thank you a lot for providing this info! I have to specify that for now I remember all the boys clearly and Hyunjin is maybe one of my favourites, and your words just made him more beautiful in my eyes. I never knew that he has the "written by a woman" vibes, but it all clicks into place quite right! Thank you for sharing info about him, it was so useful and nice 😊 I would happily watch and read everything you find useful to share.

i would say changbin is the mom since the members themselves said chan is the dad and changbin is the mom in two kids room lololol

48 here. Discovered them almost a year ago. Still obsessed. They are so much fun and so talented. ❤

@@Nobodys_Nothing I was lucky enough to see them live in Seattle! I used to work in the music industry…. They are life changing live! So much talent and beautiful artists

@@trishhaugen3893 I’m hoping to go see them next year if they come back to the states. I can’t imagine them live ❤️

Thank you for commenting! It warms my heart to see all these stories from all around the world about finding them!

Same. I’m 48. I wish they had been around when I was younger. They are so positive and have a great message for ALL people. I am not usually EVER a fan of pop music. Going more for the math rock, Midwest emo music but this group is just different. ❤

Thank you a lot for commenting! Well, can I share some "headcanons" about their possible neurodivergence with you? As I have probably said countless times in video and comments, Seungmin rings a bell of familiarity to me by being the same weird - he's pretty straightforward with speaking his thoughts not thinking twice about the nuances of situation, if it would be "alright/normal" or if behaving like that would be considered odd or strange. Aside from that, as far as I know, he doesn't like skinship that much and is pretty calm - or at least not that loudly emotional compared to the other kids, which also adds to the point of him being not like others. Narrowed emotional range + not liking touching + hardly reading the atmosphere sometimes - these things certainly lead me to some conclusions, because these little things are in diagnostic signs of certain neurodivergences (I don't watch Seungmin that closely to say for sure, but I researched the topic of ND bc I'm neurodivergent myself, so I know what I'm talking about) Overall no matter if he's neuroatypical or not for real, his devotion to his profession is very inspirational. If he can become this cool, maybe I can too? It comforts me to no end. We discussed these things with my friend, and she said that Hyunjin is probably ND too, but I can't say a lot of what kind. Well, if you have some thoughts on them overall, can you share with me? I don't know how about others, but I certainly won't judge you for telling these thoughts! I hope if someone stumbles upon this thread they won't be toxic to you too!

@@machgirl6385 Hi, sorry for not getting back to you quickly! As I said before, I’m hesitant to say names simply because it’s frowned upon to speculate. But in a few words, Changbin, Seungmin, Han, and Lee Know radiate ND energy to me. I think Chan has spoken about ADHD before too. I have looked at Hyunjin, but I also don’t look at him enough to say for sure. For Lee Know, a lot of it has to do with how similar he is to myself. He’s often designated as the ‘weird’ one, whose train of thought is hard to pick up on. He likes skinship, but usually only from people he’s especially close to, and he doesn’t really feel the need to keep more than a few of those. He does have difficulty expressing himself and showing that he cares, so he does this instead by taking care of people and teasing them. His humor is quite deadpan, he doesn’t like being the center of attention, he really dislikes unruly clothes, he’s constantly trying to keep his hair out of his eyes and scratching his eyebrows, and he alternates between being Too Loud and Too Quiet. He’s very all or nothing. Also ambidextrous. Also very dependent on routine. He has had issues with maintaining eye contact, but is very good at hiding it (with excessive, intense staring instead). You already went over Seungmin, and I pretty much agree with you on all points. Changbin was a lot harder for me to notice, but once I started looking more closely, it’s very apparent. He definitely has issues with eye contact and has a wandering gaze. He is very methodical in his approach to lyricism, a very deep thinker, and then out of nowhere appears very childlike. It does seem to take him a second to realize a joke had been made (especially about him) and tends to just go along with the crowd. He also is exceptionally and specifically passionate about health and working out to the point of obsession. I’ve heard other ND people compare themselves to him with glee of seeing a person like him in his position, like what you said about Seungmin. For Han, he really just never settles down, his brain is always working and needing stimulation of some kind, but because of social anxiety, he has limited options of how to expend it. So he stays in bed all day and watches informational youtube videos. He has a lot of trouble remembering things, not just the obvious of his lyrics, but where he puts things, that he needs to clean up his messes, etc, so I do see him as needing a lot of support, which the others give him as much as possible. He really reminds me of one of my best friends in this way, who is also ND. People will say that oh, that’s not so uncommon, lots of people do such and such, but it really is a matter of having a cluster of traits all at once that convinces me. But yeah, even if it’s not true, it brings me comfort to think it is. And it would explain a lot of why their music is so appealing to ND folk, whether it’s deliberate or because it does for them what it does for us. I like to think it’s deliberate, because they rarely do anything in their music by accident. Anyway! Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk!

Thank you for commenting! I think I was unnecessarily toxic back then and also not exactly in a right state of mind when I made these videos, so I hope I learned since then indeed! I even had an emotional breakdown due to the guilt I felt because of my behaviour back then :") (sorry for intimate things slipped) This video came out as a result of my affective phase creative thinking and my depressive focus, so I suppose I just mixed my two positive sides together! Also I have discussed the contents with my STAY bestie who is in fandom for much more time than me and is much deeper in all of that, so I had someone to correct me and add something valuable! I really thought about making video fully textual but then understood that words only would not be so effective, so I searched for some living examples of things I talked about, and if only my phone memory allowed it, I would add some more (unfortunately, I hadn't had any more to experiment with additional details)! Funnily but I omitted the biggest thing that is there about "friendliness" - their, umm, communication? Like yes, there were glimpses of it here and there, but not a point strictly about that, I suppose. Also by some reason I made a part with "stuck together dumplings" too short (just bc I literally searched for these words in my social media communities, and I didn't know enough of them to save enough pictures in a small amount of time, though I could literally… search them up in the internet… and call them dumplings myself in my mind…), even though it should show a lot of their inner chemistry :") Anyway, I think my answer may be a lot random, so sorry for that and thank you again for commenting!

@@machgirl6385 You seem like such a great person 😭 It's alright, I totally get that! Back then I didn't think about your video all that much and I just saw it as a way of complimenting skz and expressing your point of view (not hating "the other group" in any way) but looking back I do agree this is a much better way to express your feelings and get your points across rather than comparing (Cause yh the other grp is very different, they help and care for their fandom in their own way, also have good chemistry etc. You came a long way both in knowledge on the topic you present, your approach and also editing-I can only imagine how long this took to make; still giggling thinking abt the first creepy backround music you used in ur first vid 😁) Glad to see you're in a better state of mind and making more positive videos that you feel better about! I genuinely hope you take your time and do what you like doing, don't be too harsh on yourself! :)) Your stay bestie-they really know what they're talking abt 👏👏 And I get what u mean, I think it's great to aknowlegde what can be improved and take in feedback! There are some things that could have been included like those u mentioned, it's not "perfect", but it's still a pretty complete video with lots of good points nonetheless, at least in my opinion! :) For example, I feel like I haven't seen that many people bring up neurodivergence which is such a shame! Or the fact that they include gender neutral pronouns in almost all their love songs, or the fact that they have SO MANY SONGS THAT AREN'T ABT ROMANTIC LOVE AT ALL, touching subjects many other people can relate to (esp for people from the aro/ace community)!! Thank you for responding and for the heart ❤️

I’m sorry to ask but I saw this clip on a FMV of Hyunjin playing an instrument with drum sticks. It was a performance Stray Kids did but I can’t figure out which one. I’ve asked around but no one ever answers me. If you or anyone knows, could you please let me know?🙏

@@charlotte3102 My apologies. I remember Bang Chan & Seungmin on drums, but not Hyunjin. If you find it, please let me know. I will add it to my playlist for him.

Ow, also while you are here, can I ask you what song is there on 33:57? I think I've heard it but I tend to forget the names of songs even if I remember the sound of them ;-;

@@machgirl6385 Aaargh. I love Han. I should know this, but it’s such a short clip & I am distracted by the face touching. We’re all jealous. Let me keep thinking. Not giving up yet!!

@@machgirl6385 Nope. Throwing in the towel. I’m not fluent in Korean or Japanese. I thought it might be Japanese, but I checked those and couldn’t match it. Their discography is massive. Maybe if I sleep on it…

Wow, staff interviews! Can you share some link or the name of them to see?

It's so lovely and heartwarming to hear all these stories! 💗💗 I wish to go to their concert sometime too 😊

Wow, two years! I know about this fandom from around October of the last year because of my friend who catched a hyperfixation on them. So because of her I learned a lot about these guys, plus she shared with me some articles on topic (and I subscribed to the group in social media that shares some interesting facts and videos from concerts, that's where some info also came from). Aside of it all things that I stated there are my own conclusions from content I watched, hehh. But mainly really positive facts that are compiled there (about half of the video, or… nope, a bit less than it, I suppose) were told to me by STAYs that came to the comments section of some scandalous video I've made (it was kinda… ehhh… specific, hahha). So thanks to them this video exists! I'm very happy I'm able to help someone, and even someone who is longer in fandom that I am!

@@machgirl6385 Lol, well yes it’s been a long time but I still have a lot to learn and comprehend. Which again, I thank you for this very informative video because it’s helping me understand more. And to be honest, I’m a bit jealous because I wouldn’t even know where or how to find the sources for the information you’ve put into this. I really appreciate and admire you for this.

Damn YES! I had the same feelings about kpop because of the worst reputation of BTS fandom, so when my bestie had first talked with me about Stray Kids, I was sceptical, but here I am, totally enamored with kpop and exploring group after group in Spotify… Still there is no group out there with discography, ALL songs from which I would love so wholeheartedly. There are groups who have two-five good songs, but not full albums, and there are Stray Kids whose albums I fully added in favourites. Not saying about their content, so soft and nice, truly cozy and familial! Even if I will sometime go further from kpop (which will not happen anytime soon), Stray Kids will forever have a soft spot in my heart.

@@machgirl6385 😂😂😂 sounds funny right but seriously I even tried to listen some other songs from another group also just to explore and i gave it some try so I could fully embrace the KPOP world, but again my TASTE of MUSICs since then was only trapped by STRAYKIDS .. My whole heart truly, deeply fall in love with them. Not just by their MUSIC but their personalities, their Bond , how they treat each other and to Stay . I feel Home . I feel Family. I feel their sincerity. And the most I can feel the Love . Sounds cheesseeeeeeeee but YEAH It's true

Ohhh, my bias might be Seungmin - just because I feel some neurodivergent vibes coming from him, and he behaves a lot like me! I think I had even pointed on this twice during the video. Funnily but with it he might be the only member from all band that I don't like aesthetically that much, huh!

@@machgirl6385 oh that’s right you did mention how much you relate to him! I just wasn’t sure if you thought he was ur bias for sure but i can see why he would be comforting for neurodivergent stays & it’s nice to see skz accept him for who he is

I also like how ground-to-earth he is! As far as I know, many times he was asked what his dream is he said that he just wants to be a singer - not some kind of worldwide star or smth like that, just singer who likes to sing! And I appreciate it very much - how he seems to genuinely like what he does and how simple his ambitions are on this matter, how… normal? Human-like? Idk how to express it with right words honestly, especially in this phase… I like how he communicates with members and helps them in their work - for example, three of them (I guess Minho too from recent times), Seungmin, Jeongin and Minho, go to the vocal teacher, and he and Hyunjin (I hope I remember things correctly) go to the pilates together which also helps with singing! I love how devoted to his profession he is. Seungmin looks like a person of strong will who will do many things for his dream, and it's very inspiring!

@@machgirl6385 you explained it perfectly! And everything you said is really touching I love Seungmin too he’s definitely important to not only the other members but stays as well!

Oh, thank you for commenting! This is indeed very important and specific thing! Well, as far as I could understand by many articles on his topic, he's very temperamental, likes… umm… how to spell this… for example, when SKZ shared their favourite music videos, Chan's choices were mostly explicitly sexual. His parts of lyrics also often are of a "baddie" (from the most recently known example - his part in Ex? About cheating). Overall he's very controlling and often overworks and tires himself (and sometimes others too) to make something ideally. Yes, he is a sweet person, but with it he isn't "sweet" overall, as he has his relatively dark/serious side very prominent. My point in this that you should not mistake Chan for some innocent kid that should be defended (as we usually think about "sweeter" idols, involuntarily infantilising them), because he is strong enough to defend himself and others. Maybe he is sweet as a person and acts as shy and bubbly, but out of all SKZ he is the most grown up mentally, and you should not treat him like an actual kid, because out of all of them he is the least infantile, or rather he is simply not. This is what I meant. I mean, we all see that he is all kind and cute with others, yes, but this is not everything that builds up his character. There are other things that are more important. His workaholism, his strong will, his idealism and a wish to make everything as good as possible - he may act nice to achieve these things, but we should look deeper through acting to the reason he behaves like that. He might be a sweet person, but he is not "sweet" idol. Thank you again for the question!

@@machgirl6385 ohh okay!!! That makes a lot more sense and yeah I totally agree with you! Thank you for answering!!!

@@machgirl6385 That’s an interesting perspective on him. It’s nice to have an outside observer because you will interpret differently. Chan is ENFJ- loves ALL music styles and gives Shoutouts to many other artists and groups. I watch a LOT of them behind the scenes and have separate playlists for each member in case you want to explore more about a particular Bias. Like Seungmin. Feel free to browse.

Mm? Strange? Because of what exactly?

@@machgirl6385 Because everything is kinda new, like the idols (Stray kids) their names, personalities, likings and their story, it's like opening a door to a new beginning type of strange cause I've been a solo Stan for o BTS only for a very long time

@@everlight3572 I was in your position a couple months ago. I found bts in 2021 and only followed them until I wanted to branch out. Then I found Stray Kids and felt a connection to them. I realized that it’s ok to love multiple groups and be a multifan. I’m trying to explore even more groups and maybe some of them will become favorites for me too. Even idols from diff groups are friends who support each other (Lee Know was actually a dancer for BTS!). It might feel strange but it’s also fun getting to know them because they’re all unique and likable!

@@starrynight369 Thank you very much for sharing this with me. I'll try and get to know them better and maybe become a stay.😆✨

@@everlight3572 of course! You’re always welcomed into the fandom if you choose to join 😊

Well, yeah, but by the info I gathered much time before the survival show they walked in a group of 6 or 7 of them around already :") So maybe I was sloppy in words yet again, sorry! 😖

@@machgirl6385 Before the survival show,they were seen together quite sometimes obviously cause Chan wanted to choose the members a lil before the start of the survival show....but they were nvr close until Chan chose them...Chose chose them not in the survival show but before that only

they weren't like brotherhood close before debut, but some of them are likely friends with each other before debut, at least I.N. and Hyunjin. Han mentioned he joined JYP in 2015, so he was the first, and somehow I kind of get the feeling the story about him crying about Chan spending his birthday alone working was either before the other kids joined JYP or after I.N. and Hyunjin came to the company, but before Changbin, since he supposedly came around 2016. I also kinda remember seeing a pic of I.N. in joker outfit, which I kind of assumed it was from the monthly evaluation thing or past trainee showcase Bang Chan had mentioned in their two kids room where they teamed up together, with Han too maybe, and I.N. was posing with Hyunjin, so they were probably friends back then, at least friendly enough to take selfies together. Since Chan only remembered Han being there, it can be that he and Hyunjin haven't really interacted properly then. Han and Changbin were probably friendly enough at least for a friendly rivalry since they mentioned Han cried and they hugged not a week of their meeting and they also had rap classes together. Felix, Seungmin and Lee Know are probably the least close with everyone else before Chan gathered them up since they came in 2017, especially Lee Know, since he came only a few months before the showcase that was in the survival show.

Well, technically you can say it about Jeongin and Seungmin too, or maybe about Felix and Seungmin :) All of them are really close, so I mentioned some dynamics I knew personally, it's not like I'm against other kind of dynamics I haven't mentioned! I called them gamers trio mostly because they had recent racha log about gaming, that's all