I like the solar powered g-shocks as well. They run for more than 15 years without any needed maintenance and that is what I am looking for, just in case the times get harder. And their price is quite reasonable as well 😀
For me it's the Casio G-Shock GW-5000-1JF. Solar battery that's good for at least 15 years. Good for diving deeper than I'll ever be able to. Legendary toughness. Radio time sync. And a screw-on back for even better durability. Also has a muted color scheme. Can't get better than this in my opinion. But, in saying that, the one watch I have always wanted is an Omega Speedmaster.
Yep a G-Shock (mine is the GW-3500B-1AER) is my daily wear for the past 7 years. It has had some big bangs against rocks. Only maintenance is that it has had the strap replaced due to the rubber being slightly cut.
@@JonGadget For me it's actually exactly the opposite: I grew up with digital watches (24h, leave me alone with am and pm 🤪) and even with an analogue display I always "translate" it to digital.
Love your criteria. I went with Seiko SNE585, a solar quartz dive watch. Ticks all of your boxes and if I wear it or leave it under my daily lamp, it never requires any kind of charge.
Awesome video as usual! I personally keep it simple with my Casio G-Shock atomic solar. Never have to charge it or change batteries, and always has accurate time.
Very good choice, I think. I made the same choice for about all the same reasons as you did. It looks very good and is easy to read. Even in total darkness.
Not sure how durable the Luminox is in contrast to the G shock? I have a Luminox Sentry and a G shock and like them both but like my Citizen promaster Eco better.
My only thought for extra features I might look for would be radio-controlled/atomic time-keeping so it automatically adjusts for the local time wherever in the world you are? Plus a perpetual calendar so I don't have to remember to advance the date by a day when there are 30-days in a month (to say nothing of February and leap-years)... And I personally prefer metal bands over rubber or fabric etc.
I love my Garmin Tactix 7. The battery can last for 2-4 weeks depending on use/settings etc. The mapping is fantastic and the built in torch has been a God send at times. My other watch that I like to think of as a back-up is my CWC SBS Diver, it’s small, well built and being a quartz movement good for 10 years on a battery and it’s rated to 300m. It’s also easy to see at depth being white on black. Great video Jon and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My daily is a Casio GW-M5610U-1ER, waterproof 200m, solar, shock resistent, Multiband 6 so will have always the accurate time, if not its quartz so it runs pretty accurately. I am pretty sure nothing can beat this watch except for a mudmaster which cost at least triple the amount. It also runs 1 or 2 years without seeing the sun.
I really enjoyed your presentation. There are tons of options to choose from but I appreciate your take on digital vs analog watches. I enjoy digital watches on some occasions but there's something I appreciate as much as you suggested with an analog watch because you can see where you are in that moment in time rather than just seeing the time in the moment. It was a great point and one which defines why the analog watch will remain a timeless design (pun intended, of course)
I don't know how I stumbled across this channel, but I love it. Full of all the stuff I have an interest in including the EDC wallets, torch reviews, etc. I copied a link to my son, who is military, and he came back with a thumbs up and a thank you. MY EDC watch is a Citizen Eco-drive, radio controlled. Always charged and always accurate and for £300ish is excellent. Great review Jon.
Thanks for talking about luminox watches I got one a couple of years ago It was very nice and sturdy and classy and today it's just the same and it was when i bought it for around £400 very good watches but I must say that your classic Rolex looks fabulous very nice worth every penny I am wanting to thank you for your time your education and all what you do for the community I've just recently gotten into EDC I do love my gadgets John so thanks for all your help and you got me 8nto my EDC also got a couple of the pouches for storage and boy o boy you can squeeze some amount of stuff into the topo pouches fantastic work and time put into every video thanks for getting me started in EDC honestly one of the best reviewers about great work and great knowledge thanks again
Great review and choice! My rugged watch for the past 9 year has been the solar-powered Casio GW-9400-1CR "Rangeman" Triple-Sensor with its digital compass, altimeter, barometer, thermometer, sunrise and sunset date, time stamp, Mb6 atomic timekeeping, auto LED, 5 Daily Alarms (4 one-time and 1 snooze alarm), 1/10-second stop watch, countdown timer, day/date/month calendar, and water resistant to 660 feet (200 M). And all this for just ~$200 USD. I've owned many Casio G-Shocks since the 1980's and this one beats them all. 😊
Very nice watch. My edc watch for work needs to be rugged and non-Bluetooth so I wear a victorinox inox. I love it, indestructible but I love the look of it. Every time I look at it my eye lingers on it for a few seconds in appreciation. Goes well with the sak on days off too
I think the point about analogue dials and being able to read them without your glasses on is often overlooked by people with decent sight. It is why I always use an analogue watch.
Nice choice. I was just looking at these last night. Wife coworker has one (different model) and loves it. I agree, I am not into smartwatch’s due to the charging. I have been looking at some G-Shocks as well. Thank you.
To the casual observer (i.e. those looking to mug you) it looks a bit like a Casio MRW-200h - a $20 watch. That's a very good thing indeed in areas that have problems with mugging, etc. such as much of South America, parts of Asia, London, etc. I was wondering if the tritium markers would be too visible at night but then again it's probably rare the light would be visible from much of a distance. Oddly I've had solar watches such as the Citizen Ecodrive - they die at the same time as the long-battery units as their capacitor dies in around 10 or so years, indeed mine I had replaced and the replacement is failing after 4-5 years of infrequent use (it won't hold a charge for more than 20 minutes of non-exposed use). I'm curious about your original B&W LCD panel unit though, if they could somehow increase the solar surface for those I wonder if it could avoid the charging plug more often? Then again here in Blighty a solar watch is a sign of laudable but excessive optimism at least up north.
Thanks for feedback. I agree the Luminox can look understated which is good. Tritium markers do not give off much light at all just enough to be seen at close range. With GPS/BT disabled the Instinct can run without charging from solar alone with moderate light exposure.
I run a Geveral GV2 submariner auto 26 jewel with nato band. I do have a samsung smart watch and then suunto core. I have lifetime supply batteries for the suunto.
Great choice of watches - I have Garmin, G-Shock and Luminox for both outdoor and tactical usages. I was thinking of purchasing the same Luminox as you have, but ended up purchasing something more stealthy. I wish they made the dial color darker. If you are looking for an everyday robust watch, just go with solar powered G-Shock. Garmin is amazing, but G-Shock can be charged much faster by solar power compared to Garmin (plus it has much longer battery life). Luminox would be an awesome choice, but you normally need to change battery once in every two-three years. If you are living an outdoor / tactical life, love watches and have enough money to buy all three, get all of them!
My EDC watch is a Marathon GSAR, they make a TSAR (Quartz). Has all the features you were looking for like the LumiNox. Would be interest in hearing what other brands and models you considered. I am a watch lover myself. Love the Rolex Submariner, for me I have the Omega Seamaster. Just found your channell resently. Love your content and presention style!
I’ve looked at the GSAR and it seems pretty awesome. My worry is the really aggressively knurled crown. What’s your experience been wearing it as it relates to the crown?
I wore the TSAR for about a decade until the Tritium faded more than I liked. Bullet proof and easy to wear. I've stopped wearing a watch since and need to invest in getting the Tritium vials replaced.
Another great video and nice to see there's someone else who puts as much thought into their purchase as I do. I am a child of the late 1950s so I completely understand the desire for an analogue dial! I went with a G-Shock solar analogue. Easy to read, great illumination and is as accurate as any of my swiss digital movements. Luminox has a great reputation and their Ronda movements are excellent and their parent company, Mondaine adds to an already great reputation...but.....I've used Tritium sights on my pistols and the half-life is 12.5 years and I've had them long enough to get aggravated when they dim so far as to be unusable. At that point, they just have to be replaced. I did not want to worry about changing batteries or fading hour markers, so I steered away from the Luminox. I also thought they were a tad pricey, especially if only worn occasionally for rough sports (unlike Navy Seal usage) Heck, even the Timex Indiglo is a great option and if it flies off of your mountain bike, you are not losing $600. But, this is why there are all those flavors at the ice cream shop and that Luminox of yours is gorgeous and you know it will take a beating. Wear it in good health and don't let Jamie borrow it! LOL
Studies show that black characters on a yellow background is the most legible color combination. That may be another reason you like the watch so well. It's a good-looking piece, that's for sure. Love your vids!!
I find this choice a bit peculiar given the criteria. It would make more sense to pick one of the following: - Casio Duro: cheap, quarts, analog, amazing looking. - Citizen Eco Drive: pretty much any of them. - Casio Casioak: The looks might be a high-or-miss given your taste, though. - Casio Pro Trek: Similar to the Casiok, but a ton more functions. Direct alternative to the one Jon picked: - Victorinox Heritage (quarts): amazing looking watch and a tank. - Traser: Better than the Luminox, which can have questionable build quality at times, and better looking (IMHO).
I wore my Citizen Ecodrive watch for almost 20 years with absolutely no malfunction or battery recharge. It is totally solar powered and it has never stopped ticking. I have banged it up, scratched it up, cracked the crystal, and even submerged underwater with the cracked crystal and it still works and tells time like the day I got it. It puts anything Rolex makes to shame.
Same here, but unfortunately Citizen can’t replace the battery anymore. Did you have to replace it and maybe would have a hint where I could get it fixed?
I was a very early adopter of the Luminox watch. It served me well. I have moved to an Apple Watch due to my changing needs. I hope you get many years of service as I did.
What a great video to follow along. Fantastic job and good watch choice. The only weakness I see with that watch in the battery. Did you consider a eco-drive promoter citizen? I think they're the best bang for the money. Built to last forever and no need to change a battery.
I have had similar thinking. My cheaper versions on the GMT are the Tag Carerra, Cartier Roadster, Omega Seamaster, Oris Flight timer. And I have the Casio Protrek which is my Garmin equivalent. I wanted the Luminox but settled on the Casio Duro. I was liking the idea of a tritium powered watch. It is radio- active but obviously very low level. The Duro looks great it is fairly rugged and well made with great alignment, accuracy and cheaper enough to easily replace.
My list for a watch is similar analogue, visibility , face colour , strap durability . So I really did like the watch but price well that’s a different matter , g shock do some cool ones too 👍❤️🐾🫶 but nice to see and I was given a digital when I was younger but it put me off quickly so since then analogue all the way .
Great Video! I'm also a fan of Tritium-Watches and own one Traser and three Luminox. Just last week I bought the newest Watch from Luminox. The Navy Seal EVO. It's a reborn of the first watch - the classic Navy Seal Watch and I love it. My other two Luminox (46 mm) were a littel bit to big for my wrist in my opinion and the bezel of both watches weggle a little bit. The new EVO has only 43 mm and fits perfect on my wrist and the bezel doesn't wiggle. My Traser is also the same 43 mm but it is the old original Commando Titan. Love this too but on the new EVO the tritium marks are wider so they shine much brighter in the dark.
Based on your review as well as many hours of research, I have just purchased this exact model. It will be my first Luminox and I'm very excited for it to be added to my collection 👍Fantastic video as always.
I’m seriously considering buying this watch, I love the look of it and the accuracy of quartz, but the main thing that attracts me to this is the model is the 6 year battery life. But will I be able to change the battery at a regular jewellers or will it have to be sent back to luminox ? If so I wonder how easy an exercise this would be ? I currently own the victorinox inbox automatic which sort of does this job , but I’m drawn to the luminox . You’re gmt Rolex is beautiful by the way and even if I could afford one, the wait list would be ridiculous, the omega seamaster is really nice, but again more than I could pay . Thanks for a very interesting and informative video as usual 👍🏻😊
I have a Traser watch with tritium and it is a fantastic feature - really makes reading the watch in low and no light so easy. Never owned a Luminox but they do have a very good reputation. Most of my rugged watches are Casio G-shocks - I find that there is such a range you can always find one that suits. Most of mine also have the solar recharge feature which works flawlessly - I leave my watches on my dresser facing the window when not in use. Anyway, great vid and great watch!
Good choice. I would chose a Marathon over a Luminox. It ticks all the boxes and I prefer their models. Canadian designed and Swiss made. Thank you for the video.
Thank you for the video and many of your others. Have you heard of Nite watches? They not completely Swiss made only one of them models is they offer a greater range of tritium illumination watches. They are British. I’ve had one of them models now for three years and it’s fantastic.
When your list of requirements for a watch came on screen, I'd have put money on a G Shock being the one you chose.The Luminox is a good looking watch though.
Interesting video and information about quartz watches. Thanks for this review, and discussion. Being in my 70's now, I well remember mechanical watches, and the "self winding" watches, now referred to as automatic watches. I had both, and when the battery powered watch first appeared, I paid little attention to it. Bought a few in the 80's and 90's, but became disillusioned with them. Too many simply stopped working. I abandoned their use. Today, living in retirement, I own several Invicta automatic watches. They're affordable, and well made. A couple did require adjustments to them to insure accuracy, but overall I am pleased with them all, and have no desire for the quartz watches. Just too "old school" I suppose.😏
You grew up with know digital watches? How old are you. I'm 56. My first digital watch was a TI LED model. Then I went on vacation to the UK and bought the two button on the top Casio. I've been wearing digitals for years. I've also had a Seiko Pogue which was no end of trouble. A seiko Gugarrio side button that at the time I didn't know was a Gugarrio. I had the original seiko Arnie before the file came out.
Glad another Rolex aficionado can also appreciate a good Luminox 👍 _Oh snap_ you got the same one as I did!! I got the black-dialed one though ‘cos I liked the dark monotone look.
I use a cheap 100 euro casio gshock for outdoors lol. Features solar and atomic clock sync. Best advice i can give is to NOT have a sapphire glass. Reason is if it goes, it's shatters. The 'glass' on a gshock just scratches. I also have a luminox, different version. It's nice Though i have other nice watches ;)
I see very poorly without my glasses. My search for a night time visible watch which would work without blinding me and without glasses ended up in the Luminox XS.0321.BO.L. My main considerations was that I wanted a separate color for the hour hand so I could easily discern if it is time to get up or go back to sleep. Otherwise I've been carrying the Garmin Instinct 2 Tactical Solar for the last year, it gives much more actionable information when compared to the Apple Watch (regarding sleep, fitness, stress) without being in your face. I must say that payments are very easy on the AW, also the at a glance information in the infographics watch face is very good. To sum it up: Luminox + Garmin at night and Apple Watch + Garmin during the day. I don't mind double wristing.
Mine is an Apple iWatch that my family bought me after having a few spectacular crashes on my mountain bike on remote trails (think head over tail flips and face plants). It has a crash detection technology and will call 9-11 automatically with your location if you don’t respond that you are OK. It’s synced with my iPhone. I’m thinking about upgrading it to the new one (iPhone) that uses satellite technology when cell signals aren’t available. It for me would put the inReach obsolete for what I do.
Interestingly, I can't vision the types of activities you'd be involved in you feel you need to own this watch, besides the interesting presentation and all🙂
P.S. I don't wear a watch any more. I'm female and prefer to wear my watch above the wrist bone rather than on the forearm. And I'm a lefty so there's that too.
Got a citizen pro master tough in blue. The ‘Ray Mears’watch. It’s an eco drive solar powered watch with a titanium monoblock case and a Kevlar strap. It’s an absolute beast and a steal at £350. I would have it as a alternative ro a g shock if you don’t like them or as a cheaper alternative to a luminox.
Not a bad watch. Another to consider in my opinion would be the g shock mudmasters gwg-1000 or 2000. Has both analog and digital displays along with a bunch of features as well as tough solar so no battery replacement or charging G shocks are tough being placed in so very harsh environments and battlefields.
I'd like a Luminox because of its tried and tested build quality but the only thing that puts me off is that it is battery powered. Having had experience of watches failing due to power at awkward moments Solar powered watches are an absolute must for me. I purchased a Citizen 300M ECO-DRIVE DIVER BN0088-03E which is of a similar spec and, although I think the Luminox looks nicer and more premium, the Citizen Eco-Drive system was a no brainer for me especially at less than half the price.
I need to set aside some money and get an Instinct S2 Solar, being able to use it for tap pay is super useful in case I don't want to take out my card.
I hope you have a better experience than I did with one I had about 30 years ago. It got scratched easily to the point where I couldn't read it. And the basil was crap. I've become a G Shock fan since then...I look forward to hearing about this watch after you have worn it for a year.
Jon, love your videos. I've copied several of your kits myself. Do you still have the two-tone rosegold GMT rootbeer? I've seen that one in several of your videos. Keep them coming!
I only recently discovered your channel, but am watching you more and more as I’ve found that my tastes and underlying analyses seem to align very closely with yours, yet you always seem to bring fresh and useful insights I hadn’t considered. Being a watch enthusiast (addict?) and having noticed your GMT before (I alternate between a Submariner and Datejust-very similar reasoning), I was curious as to what you’d choose. I’ve spent a lot of time exploring the “perfect beater watch” problem as well and have very similar criteria. Maybe Jon will give me an excuse to buy a new toy! Jon can thread this needle, if anyone can! But alas, turns out I already had almost exactly the same watch in my collection. Yellow dial Luminox Navy Seal-only difference is mine has all twelve numerals and also, the smaller 24hr numerals-both of which I actually prefer and I suspect I could convince you of this over an ale. Your insights on the reason analog is preferable and, I’d even say, more natural (maybe due to our age-we’re about the same) are spot on. I don’t think we process the numbers in time reading, but over decades, learn to relate to the relative hand positions for the time and it’s meaning. Great video. Good choice and you inspired me to wear that Luminox today as it’s a Saturday. Thanks for the useful, enjoyable vids and I’ll continue to be a regular viewer.
Jon, you know your watches . Great video . Your choices are excellent. Everyone's choices will be different . When you were listing all your requirements I really thought you were going to choose the casio g- shock mudmaster 1000 . Nothing wrong with your luminox though . Nice watch .
Damn You Jon, now I’m even more looking in to watches… 😂 It looks a very nice watch but and I really like the simplicity: I’m looking for almost the same characteristics. 😏
To me it is wear what you enjoy. I like the usefulness of the same 1st generation solarGarmin. However lately it is often turning off by itself, annoying. I have a Ballwatch and one of the reasons in purchasing it was the tritium gas tubes. However it has faded over the last 15 years while my Seiko Monster bought at the same time still shining brightly. It’s costly to send away and change the tritium gas tubes. Would you pay to change the tubes after some years or you are going to ditch it or just keep using it when the gas tubes die? Like your videos. Happy weekend!
Given what you are looking for, that seems like a great choice. (I think you picked out the nicest looking Luminox I've seen.) I have the instinct solar, but having a GPS watch that is easy to read without glasses and a very long battery life is important for me. (I run ultramarathons and other long outdoor activities.) But I agree with you that I just prefer to have hands for everyday use. Garmin has a new instinct with hands (I think it is called a crossover, or something like that), that I would go with when my current instinct solar gives out. (Of course it is really tough, so I might not be able to wait until it dies.)
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I looked at the Crossover recently, a great option I think if you are going for a fully feature wearable - not 100% convinced on the looks but nice to see innovation.
Imagine my pleasant surprise when I tuned in for another installment of well thought out EDC content when I found that your choice of time piece was a Luminox quite similar to the one I just received from my wife as a birthday gift this month! I wore one as a Sea Marshal in the Coast Guard, and it still sits in a drawer having finally been put through enough and no longer running. My new Luminox is the Leatherback SEA Turle Giant and I love it! A couple of spec differences than yours, but that's the beauty of the Luminox line; wide selection of rugged watches for matching your personal taste. I have a couple of questions: did you have a preference of mineral crystal or saphire when looking, and would solar charging be acceptable as a power source option to you? I tend to worry that a SHTF situation may happen and shortly into it my battery dies with conditions in the field not being the best for changing the battery while trying to retain that all important water resistance?
Love garmin fenix!...mine will go around 1 month before it needs a charge, but thats with little use of applications. Even with gps and other stuff, it does very well on battery life.
Hi Jon, I’m not a watch guy be I still enjoyed your review. Off the topic, have you considered reviewing any knife/blade sharpeners. How do you sharpen your own? Cheers from Ireland, Brendan
The hybrid Garmin Vivomove Style for me has been my perfect EDC. Most notifications are turned off, love the Garmin health tracking (stress, body battery, daily steps, record workouts, etc). Nobody knows that it is a smart watch and it only is a smart watch when you want it. I like not having to stare at a screen to see time. Only downside is frequent charging. I can't wait for Garmin to do another better version of one of these, the Garmin Crossover is a bit too much....
Ok, so to add some reality to the claim that the luminox watch was 'put into service' with the Navy Seals and that they 'collaborated' with its development. Not true on both counts. I'll explain why. ANYONE, that meets the required criteria, can apply for Department Of Defence and or MOD licensing, to market and sell all kinds of products. That's the first part dealt with, in terms of how they get to use the Navy Seals emblem on the back, and use their name on their website and the watch's name. They did indeed send some watches to the Navy Seals, as part of a trial, and that is all they would need to do, to be able to make a loose claim about 'supplying them'. However, let's be real. As a (British) veteran myself, that also grew up in the military, take into account that the military, including Special Forces, don't get paid film star wages. They get a moderate amount of pay, and like most people, have to support their family, as well as enhance all kinds of other bits of kit, gear and equipment, that is above and beyond what you can get 'issued'. Additionally, the environment you operate in, is particularly harsh, and the replacement cost of items is also a major factor. What will it cost when I break this. And so, the g shock is a far more cost effective, extremely rugged, and reliable watch, that many military wear and a suitable version can be picked up for less than a third of the cost of the Luminox Navy Seal watch. Other watches that are mentioned are the Suunto, with the GPS feature. Some extracts of relevant online discussions for those interested: Source 1 - We were issued with G Shock watches. Most guys wore those. I still have mine and wear it from time to time. Some guys wore a Suunto with GPS on it. The Luminox ads of 'Navy Seal Issued Watches' are complete BS and those watches suck. The company (Luminox) decided they would design a watch for SEALS, then they sent some for free to certain Teams for trial....then they could legally say they had watches that SEALS wore. Complete BS and nobody wore that crap when I was in. Source 2 - When I was in Iraq on the rivers in patrol boats, I asked a SEAL what kind of watch I should get. He showed me his Casio G shock. Black, Basic, Reliable, Waterproof. Source 3 - The Rolex Submariner is the traditional watch of the Teamguy (SEAL). It's not issued. You buy it, or it may be a gift. It is the official unofficial watch of the Frogman. Casio G Shock with a red lens insert to dim it. The most reliable and indestructible watch I know of, and if you lose it (break it), you'll get another issued. The Submariner (Rolex) and its cousin the Tudor, are so enmeshed in the (SEAL) culture, that one of the original Tudors is on display in the National Navy SEAL Museum. Personal comment and Summary - in terms of operational kit worn, the cost of replacement is going to be key. A timex, casio, etc or in the case of UK Forces, an issued 'G1098' watch. It has tritium paint. older technology than the tubes described in the video, but quick point, luminous paint, like super luminova, which needs to be charged by light, is much brighter than tritium, but it of course fades after an hour or so. Tritium is fainter, but 'always on'. White lights, always a no no, but an interesting alternative is timex's (blue) indiglo watches, that lights up the whole face backlit. Essentially something that works at night, is robust, isn't going to ruin your night vision, and is affordable for people on an average wage. Commemorative watches are a whole different ball game. I'll add a little here, notwithstanding that Luminox aren't presenting their watch as commemorative, but as an 'operational' piece of kit. The branch of the military I was in was pretty specialised and small in numbers. In recent years two commemorative watch projects generated a custom Breitling, at about £3000 per piece and an Elliot Brown for about £700. I have one of the EB watches. For anyone interested, special projects with Elliot Brown, HAVE legitimately worked with similar specialists in the British Military and other agencies to create bespoke watches. Redacted testimonials can be found on their website.
Just curious if you looked at Nite Watches. They are in the same price range as Luminox but offer a sapphire crystal and better build quality IMHO. Also they're UK based which I think would be advantageous for you for service and shipping.
Good choice with the Luminox. I like the bright sand color. I recently got my first automatic watch for only 150€. Normally it cost 200€ and more. It's a Citizen Promaster Marine Diver NY0040-50W - 42mm. But for biking i think my next watch is also a Luminox. I like the style of the brand and of course the fantastic illumination.
You have great taste in watches. That GMT is marvellous. Good choice with that Luminox. I have considered it several times. However my rugged choice for this category of watch is a Victorinox Inox. A tank of a watch
Should consider the Marathon GSAR quartz. Very interesting history of Marathon manufacturing watches for Canadian and US military. Super durable diver tool watch. Also has tritium luminescence and watch back is engraved with the NATO and other government agency registration numbers.
And I thought you were going for the new G-Shock blue tooth analog dial versions with solar power and 10 year battery. But Luminox is a great looking watch as well
I don't know how I missed this video by a year... But, another benefit of analog over digital is that you can use an analog watch and the sun as a compass, in a pinch.
Cool watch, would however stay far away from Luminox in general, they have been sued for good reasons. The ones I would have looked at would mainly be ISO certified solar dive watches. I would have looked at Seiko's Prospex solar divers, especially the 38mm skx/submariner hybrid. The Solar Tuna, as well as Citizen's Eco-drive divers, especially the titanium ones.