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Why I Had To Sue Ace Frehley 

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Long before session guitarist and composer Gene Moore met Ace Frehley, the lead guitarist for the rock band Kiss was Gene's idol. At 14, Gene was just learning guitar by listening to Ace Frehley's guitar licks on some of those iconic Kiss songs of the '70s. Fast forward about 15 years and, as fate would have it, Moore was hired for a recording session and Ace Frehley was helping produce the project. The two met and Ace complimented Gene on his playing. The rock idol invited the long time fan to the house. The two jammed a bit and Frehley asked Gene if he wanted to write together and gave Moore a cassette with some rough sketches of song ideas. Gene took a raw eight-measure riff he heard on that cassette and turned it into the hit song "Insane".
A few days after Gene created the song, laid all the tracks down including vocals and song structure, the two reviewed the song back at Frehley's house. That was the last Gene heard of the song, or from Ace, until a couple of years later, at 3 a.m., one early morning, when MTV was playing Ace Frehley's new music video release, entitled "Insane". But the story doesn't end there.....

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@ejames6431
@ejames6431 7 месяцев назад
Ace was my guitar hero when I was a kid but growing up in Westchester County NY and knowing people who know him, Ace is in his own world.
@ginadand
@ginadand 2 года назад
Saddest part of this story is you were an 80’s musician and you had no idea who Iron Maiden was!?!? 🤦🏼‍♀️ I’m having a hard time believing that!
@edflynn3281
@edflynn3281 2 года назад
🤣
@booshting3520
@booshting3520 10 месяцев назад
That is madness
@andrewcross8244
@andrewcross8244 Месяц назад
@@booshting3520and you can’t go playing with madness!
@louisborselio8608
@louisborselio8608 22 часа назад
He didn't say he didn't know who they were as a band . He said he was unfamiliar with their music.
@newking70
@newking70 3 года назад
LMAOing at he thought Ace would be his mentor.
@TheRustedShackleford
@TheRustedShackleford 2 года назад
No kidding. That's a narcissist if I've ever heard one.
@gregman05
@gregman05 3 года назад
"Iron Maiden used to have a giant robot named Eddie" they still do...
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 3 года назад
He was only a robot in 86-87.
@TheJayrockerr
@TheJayrockerr 3 года назад
The Fonz -Yes, true. That was for the “Somewhere in Time” tour.
@coldwarrior4950
@coldwarrior4950 3 года назад
@Michael Black You're Eddie ?
@conti2000
@conti2000 2 года назад
It was not a robot! There was a guy inside! In 1982 I worked at the hotel, the band was staying at and actually bought football padding equipment for the guy in the „costume“! Maiden were playing Düsseldorf with Trust supporting. The guys name was Joey DeCurzio and I remember shopping downtown with „Big John“ Harte. After the show, I took Steve, Adrian and Dave to a Hard Rock place in the Altstadt, called the „Litfaß“! We met Doro Pesch there and I introduced her the band! Yeah… these we‘re the good times!
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz 2 года назад
And Ace names his bio "No Regrets"🙄 Dude has LOTS of regrets.
@66balsam
@66balsam Год назад
Ace did the same thing to Sebastian Bach as well, it’s in Baz’s book
@tinawillits8223
@tinawillits8223 8 месяцев назад
I read Sebastian Bachs book too great book!! But you are right!
@spaceknight793
@spaceknight793 3 года назад
Sounds like Ace did the guy wrong. But let's not forget that Ace was completely wasted in the 80s. "Second Coming" was a difficult album to produce because Ace wasn't much help due to chemical influences (Eddie Trunk tells this story since he worked for the label at the time). So I'm not surprised if on Monday he thought he came up with a riff or song somebody showed him on Sunday. He barely knew where he was most of the time. I'm not making an excuse for him, just saying it doesn't surprise me in the least.
@jbright1980
@jbright1980 3 года назад
This is the most drawn out boring story I have ever heard
@mimoochodom2684
@mimoochodom2684 3 года назад
Well, it sets the scene and gives one a context.
@martinlehfeldt6916
@martinlehfeldt6916 2 года назад
Lol. Well, that's how it goes sometimes. Too funny
@theincrediblemisternobody8724
@theincrediblemisternobody8724 3 года назад
It's pronounced "FRAY-LEE", not "Free-Lee," for chrissakes . . .
@scottbostic6247
@scottbostic6247 Год назад
It's KRIS-SAKES , good grief 😅😂
@booshting3520
@booshting3520 10 месяцев назад
Actually it's pronounced "Junkie".
@wheelsistheman
@wheelsistheman 8 месяцев назад
According to Ace it's Fraly with a short a.
@MrASM78
@MrASM78 6 месяцев назад
You may as well get over that.
@lordfarquaad8601
@lordfarquaad8601 5 месяцев назад
"FREH-lee"
@countessratzass5408
@countessratzass5408 3 года назад
Hey Gene, I was a full time musician and jingle writer too. I also write songs. I had to sue in the 80s and it made me furious that judges don’t understand intellectual property. I won but it took forever and was so stressful. Wasn’t Ace Frehley, that must have put even more pressure on you. Like you I’m a successful graphic designer, you are spot on that songwriting and graphics are the same mental process. People like us see the end result then figure out how to get there. Sorry that happened to you.
@rectori
@rectori 3 года назад
I remember the time the video come out. Great song.
@chadkoons
@chadkoons 3 года назад
Gene Moore is absolutely right. Ace and his camp were wrong to handle it the way they did. To all of you who left dismissive or derogatory comments, imagine if you had been in his shoes. And Gene isn't bitter, he's good natured about it. Good interview.
@spiralflash6169
@spiralflash6169 3 года назад
"Insane" was one of the best songs "Ace" ever wrote. But since you read "No Regrets," you know that Ace was seriously messed up in the eighties, he knew nothing about business, and he just (sort of) did what the record label told him to do. I'm glad you finally got credit for the song.
@trollmunchkinzm4364
@trollmunchkinzm4364 3 года назад
ace didn't write it gene did......
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense 3 года назад
Without even thinking real hard about it, I can think of about 10 other songs that Ace wrote that are better than Insane.
@heavymetalzombie4754
@heavymetalzombie4754 3 года назад
I LITERALLY COULD NOT STOP STARING AT THE GHOST HAIR-DO!!! 👀
@carvinblack
@carvinblack 3 года назад
Its like a 1989 Public Access show. 🤣
@dr.anthonyrecascino403
@dr.anthonyrecascino403 2 года назад
Welcome to the record business.
@trixxianvitolo
@trixxianvitolo 2 месяца назад
Bad Green Screen Lighting
@stephenlandry9343
@stephenlandry9343 3 года назад
I love ace he is my favorite member of the real kiss. I saw him in 86 opened for Iron maiden. In New Orleans when I read his book he talked about his mindset after that show.new Orleans can be a weird city on your psychological functions. I know I was born and raised here.Ace always had trouble with his smoking guitar every time I saw him there.but anyway I still love ace regardless of any bad stories I heard about him.He is the true and only spaceman!
@conti2000
@conti2000 2 года назад
What’s that about „trouble with his smoking guitar“? Mechanical, electrical, lighting, cueing, breathing?
@stephenlandry9343
@stephenlandry9343 2 года назад
@@conti2000 no it funny every time I saw ace with kiss in the 70s twice and twice as a solo artist. Every time he would activate his smoking device in the guitar it didn't smoke. Well once it smoked for about 10 seconds. In 86 he was about 12 feet right in front of me when he tried to activate it and it didn't work and he froze for a second and shook his head in disgust. He was quite wasted that night. The blonde haired singer in frehleys comet kept gesturing that ace was drunk. It was very funny to watch.
@TwistedSMF
@TwistedSMF 3 года назад
I will never get this. It's FRAYLEE. F R A Y L E E...Not FREE LEE. If you gonna bash the man. At least say his name correctly....
@marktaylor9771
@marktaylor9771 3 года назад
I am so damned tired of these idiots who cannot pronounce Ace's last name correctly. Every time I hear somebody say "Free-lee" it makes me cringe. I can only imagine how it gets on Ace's nerves.
@crisrose521
@crisrose521 3 года назад
I was going to comment on that myself until I saw yours lol . Yes , that's so annoying! It's NOT " Feeee Leeee " ugg . Johnny G
@sspbrazil
@sspbrazil 3 года назад
Who cares?
@cooltheengines
@cooltheengines 3 года назад
Hey xyo... there, how do you like it?
@dangeller4525
@dangeller4525 3 года назад
No its FREHLEY
@krazykat64
@krazykat64 3 года назад
“He knew the business....”. No, sadly he really didn’t. All Ace wanted to do was play and party. He didn’t want to know the business and that’s how he ended up in such a deep financial hole. After landing the job with KISS his entire life was virtually a continuous series of poor choices from that point on.
@sydneyhalliwell2513
@sydneyhalliwell2513 3 года назад
100% accurate. He admitted to such on numerous occasions
@chetmartin8930
@chetmartin8930 3 года назад
The sad part is that Ace was worth 37 million at one point. I hate to say it, but he’s lucky to still be Alive.
@atheistangel007
@atheistangel007 2 года назад
Including his biggest mistake named "Rachael Gordon" which he is seeking a gag order on and will be heard in the Vista Courthouse Tuesday Dec 7th 8:30am in North County San Diego.
@carmenowens3375
@carmenowens3375 2 года назад
@@atheistangel007 did you hear any results from 12/7?
@atheistangel007
@atheistangel007 2 года назад
@@carmenowens3375 Apparently the order was not granted. I still need to get a copy of the minutes, but I heard that someone, either Rachael or her "CFO" Robert was using inappropriate language in court, and Rachael has been strangely silent since which leads me to believe the judge may have suggested to her that she _tone it down a bit_ which I would have done too if I were the judge. I will know more soon...I'll try to keep everyone posted.
@floydburney6060
@floydburney6060 3 года назад
.....Moral of this story?....."Rockstars make shitty role models" (Noel Monk)
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz 2 года назад
I was at the Iron Maiden/Ace Frehley show at The Meadowlands. Good show.
@larstinderholt7438
@larstinderholt7438 Месяц назад
Did he really think that Ace would still be backstage after the two hours Maiden show?
@jaykapolka6111
@jaykapolka6111 3 года назад
Yep. Better get your cut of the $7 that song earned
@UFOandAlienChannel
@UFOandAlienChannel 3 года назад
Killer guys, love this interview! And very interesting career path for Gene Moore.
@billtrepkowski527
@billtrepkowski527 2 года назад
The guitarist was cutting hair...? It can't be Tod; he lives in San Diego, and his extracurriculars away from music includes working on automobiles, not hair. So, it would have to be Richie Scarlet, but that doesn't sound right. Ace DID have a hairstylist FRIEND, Bob McAdams...Sure it wasn't him?
@raaawkstaaar
@raaawkstaaar 7 месяцев назад
he said he name was Derek? Bob cut Ace's hair in the '70s and he never played guitar with Ace and he also burned bridges there for Bob cowrote a book that was nothing more than airing as much dirty laundry about Ace as possible! Great book! Ace screws over EVERYONE he has ever worked with and continues to do so!
@dpmaine
@dpmaine 3 года назад
The mistake you made at the maiden show was waiting till maiden finished the show ... I would have been backstage as Ace ended his set ... Hi Ace ! Great show ! How ya doing !?
@j.reveille6815
@j.reveille6815 3 года назад
Exactly
@conti2000
@conti2000 2 года назад
I mean,… WHY did he wait?? Not knowing Maiden, he could have skipped that show or go back out with Ace, later on. On the other hand, if Ace was backstage, getting back together with his ex-wife, it wouldn’t have worked out anyways!
@SunMoonStarsUS
@SunMoonStarsUS 2 года назад
Lp
@jefflanham1080
@jefflanham1080 2 года назад
Lol why did he wait until AFTER Iron Maiden?? Should’ve went back right after Ace’s set….
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 2 года назад
That Frehley’s Comet/Iron Maiden tour was my first big concert at 13 years old. Met Ace not long after at an in-store appearance he made in Danbury CT not long after. He was completely wasted. Ace is the reason I picked up the guitar and I love him but I felt let down when I met him and he’s greeting fans in that condition. Later I understood better. Listening to this guy’s story reminds me of that obviously. I’ve had bits of songs stolen from me occasionally but luckily nothing ever happened like what happened to Gene here. Honestly I think he was a bit naive to expect much to come of whatever loose, one-or-two-time collaboration he had with Ace. Live and learn, I guess
@jasonlee8497
@jasonlee8497 3 года назад
He started taking about photoshop....and I saw what was wrong....he's using a green screen
@mimoochodom2684
@mimoochodom2684 3 года назад
This guy was entitled to what he was entitled. Obviously Ace didn't give a shit...as per most of his KISS career.
@daledelatte9607
@daledelatte9607 2 года назад
After watching all this paint dry, we still don't know the actual story. Mediocre job Gene, glad you got paid!
@MichaelDouglasSkewes
@MichaelDouglasSkewes 3 года назад
Welcome to the music industry! Same thing has happened to me ,not with Ace,my friend is in his band now.
@Mitzi73
@Mitzi73 8 месяцев назад
Gene sounds like he is practicing forgiveness to someone who needs it. Love the song “Insane”.
@Guitargasm1000
@Guitargasm1000 3 года назад
Ace moves allot. Used to go to his house when he lived in Elmsford NY. He gets really silly when he gets buzzed. He has a good heart. In the 80s he couldn't remember allot. When he played live, He's just in autopilot. He has 0 business finesse. Sadly, mid-80s he was selling-hocking guitars at manny's and other places. Wasn't a good time for Ace. He's a good soul underneath that ego.
@richardwilliams1310
@richardwilliams1310 Год назад
In Australia, my original boss in retail (R.I.P.) whom was a musician said he had music stolen which later went on to become a huge hit by Phil Collins
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 3 года назад
Insane was a ripoff of The Power of Love by Huey Lewis anyway. Did he sue you first?
@donjohnson7550
@donjohnson7550 3 года назад
That’s right bro, this guy is awful
@sirchromiumdowns2015
@sirchromiumdowns2015 10 месяцев назад
It's really disappointing to hear that Ace did that to a starving musician. He DID give him credit on the album, though. Therefore he has a legal right to royalties.
@markmedina5543
@markmedina5543 2 года назад
Ace did the same thing to Sebastian Bach.
@tonymann848
@tonymann848 3 года назад
His name is pronounced Fray-Lee not freely
@Guitargasm1000
@Guitargasm1000 3 года назад
Its frailee
@balkee42
@balkee42 Год назад
Its Froo-lo
@dianedorado1163
@dianedorado1163 6 месяцев назад
No, you aren’t required to have the song writer to the video shoot, but I do believe they are supposed to be present for the first recording session. If I recall correctly it’s called liability of creation. My late recorder producer said, Frank Sinatra wanted to change up a song he had wrote and he said, hell no and wouldn’t allow Frank to record it.
@martywhite2988
@martywhite2988 27 дней назад
I'd like to know what that virtual background is hiding.
@sunset6010
@sunset6010 4 года назад
It makes one wonder how many hits the big bands "really " wrote.
@MartinAlvarado
@MartinAlvarado 3 года назад
Well… Bryan Adams has something to say about how Gene Simmons “co-wrote” his song “War machine”. 😁
@dwightrenfield2241
@dwightrenfield2241 2 года назад
Typical of Ace - uses people and blows them off.
@marcavus1
@marcavus1 3 месяца назад
Rockstar+addict= Narcissist
@topxtroychristonick220
@topxtroychristonick220 2 года назад
Your too nice Gene, Unfortunately your idol is a prick and you did the right thing , if i may ask did he ever apologize?
@chrisretro81
@chrisretro81 3 года назад
Ace thought it was his as he had the initial riff is bet. Thought you would forget about it after the free backstage passes I think. He's well documented to be a penny pincher. He owes John Regan (Comet bassist and executive producer) money as well apparently.
@louiecompson3526
@louiecompson3526 3 года назад
Seems like ace took advantage of a fan. Write a song gets on a album pay your dues simple. Ace knew fine well he didn’t write the song so pay up.
@apogeedata
@apogeedata 3 года назад
Boy that is some hairstyle😂
@samsonthecurrent
@samsonthecurrent Год назад
There’s no chance anyone but Ace wrote that verse riff, chorus riff or that solo. Maybe this guy wrote the lyrics or the 2 chords in the bridge. He’s credited as a writer.
@Jaggerbush
@Jaggerbush Год назад
TLDR did he win the law suit?
@carlospaz28
@carlospaz28 3 года назад
I started watching this and I thought it was a cheap copy of Rick Beato. Nice story anyways. :)
@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc
@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc Год назад
How can anyone be an 1980's metal head Musician and not know who IRON MAIDEN is? Very Supesious and weird.
@DanielHernandez-tn2ie
@DanielHernandez-tn2ie 5 месяцев назад
“supesious”??
@ColinStuart
@ColinStuart 3 года назад
Writers & co-Writers, always seem to get raw deals! Phil Brown (writer, guitarist, singer), wrote , (or co-wrote) Trouble Walking for Ace, and several other greats. Has been with WMI for 47 years, with NO penny's!
@MarceloRomero360
@MarceloRomero360 3 года назад
WMI? What is that?
@gordongebert3554
@gordongebert3554 3 года назад
The Insane song video story is in the KISS & Tell Book. R.I.P. Kim Rowe
@ericgoldwasser48
@ericgoldwasser48 3 года назад
Whats the story?
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 2 года назад
LOVED YOUR BOOK, Gordon! Got it autographed - still one of the very best KISS books out there. I knew Diane Kero back in the day (early 90s) when she was with Ace, many fun times on those tours! So sad when she passed... Cheers bud!
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 2 года назад
@@ericgoldwasser48 Gotta get Gordon's book, it's in there!
@howardlangford8087
@howardlangford8087 3 года назад
Ok new name for this..... just saying... goodbye ‼️
@georgerobinson9275
@georgerobinson9275 3 года назад
I would love to hang out with this guy!
@larstinderholt7438
@larstinderholt7438 Месяц назад
Did he really think that Ace still was backstege after the two hours Maiden show
@tonymann848
@tonymann848 3 года назад
Kiss ripped off a song from my high school band. Lots of people have trouble writing and they have to meet a deadline so they get ideas from someone else.
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense 3 года назад
Tony Mann What song?
@conorkelly4953
@conorkelly4953 3 года назад
@@RU-vid.Algorithmic.Nonsense under the rose 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense
@YouTube.Algorithmic.Nonsense 3 года назад
@@conorkelly4953 Holy shit, that may be only Kiss song I think I've never heard. Yeah, it's on the Elder, but there's some good songs on that album. After listening to the song, I think Kiss stole it from Styx!
@vanshipman
@vanshipman 3 года назад
Whew that was a long and painfully drawn out story...lol Nevertheless, I’m not surprised from what I’ve heard about Ace. It’s also standard for newbies in the music business, it pretty much happened to everyone. The music business like most businesses that involve millions, is full of shady one sided deals and corruption. The best two words you could give anyone before playing or writing a note is “Lawyer Up.” 😂
@markdemell3717
@markdemell3717 3 года назад
Lawyer up , sounds like something I heard in jail.
@syngynm5237
@syngynm5237 3 года назад
Dude I can't even get through it what is the bottom line boys geez
@cwaynehauck3593
@cwaynehauck3593 Год назад
Daaaang ... You got matchbox 20 money? Nice neighborhood 😉
@miked9000
@miked9000 3 года назад
Why the green screen behind the first guy? Is his moms basement not a good enough background?
@MetalHeart8787
@MetalHeart8787 3 года назад
lets take a 4 minute story and make it 44 mins long, i wanted to get aces side of the story? are you serious? Ace was so messed up then he most likely didn't remember. in many interviews he say i dont know i don't remember.
@cooldudemark
@cooldudemark 2 года назад
It irritates the hell out of me when people - especially those who know Ace - can't pronounce his last name. It is pronounced "Fray-Lee" not "Free-Lee".
@thornebladezlash9925
@thornebladezlash9925 25 дней назад
Did you guys know Mark Hitt?
@thornebladezlash9925
@thornebladezlash9925 25 дней назад
Or, Albert Carey Project?
@ausbornbred7358
@ausbornbred7358 Год назад
Ace is a scumbag, hurts me to say it but that's how he came across in this story.
@howardlangford8087
@howardlangford8087 3 года назад
So.... how many other songs did this guy actually write?
@ca3317
@ca3317 2 года назад
White Plains is my hometown. I remember that wrong way ride lol. A few years ago he played the county center and said yeah just outside on the Bronx River parkway was the incident that lead to rock soldiers. BTW the song Insane has credits listed as written by Ace Frehley and Gene Moore. So what's the problem? He's got the credit on the song. To think ace would take you under his wing is laughable. Ace from my understanding, uses people for the moment and moves on. All you have to do is pay attention to what's gone on around him. Many have done way more with Ace than this guy and have out of nowhere been banished. I don't know of a Derrick who toured with ace as a guitarist. In the 80s it was Richie Scarlett. I can't find any Derrick who played with ace at all I fact.
@familydogg1234
@familydogg1234 Год назад
Around 33 time mark you said " Harley Flom" do you mean " Fine"?????
@kevinkaatz883
@kevinkaatz883 2 года назад
Forgot I’d heard this before. But congrats bro, looks like things worked out for u. 👍
@BaronMcCausland
@BaronMcCausland 2 года назад
Here the short-story: Dude completes and works up a song demo based off an Ace riff , completely on-spec. Demo gets played for Ace who gives a neutral but noncommittal 'pretty good' response; but then, Ace moves the whole situation away from talking of the demo and working together, and Ace, causally steers Dude away from the real purpose of the meeting - potentially working together on material - to just knocking around on guitars, and then, Dude is moved further away to the pool table, and then, further away and finally out the door. This is called: The Art of Gentle Disengagement. Here's the bottom-line: after hearing a sample of Dude's writing, obviously Ace was not interested in working with Dude, or, Dude wouldn't be shooting pool and ending up with a phone number that doesn't work for Ace. If Dude was more savvy as to what constitutes a "fast embrace" in business, and, what constitutes a "Let me slowly and gently move you out the door." rejection, it would become obvious to him that Ace was not interested after hearing the demo. The difference between Ace and Ozzy is that Ozzy will come right out and say "it's not working out, see you."; whereas, many people, like Ace, can't bring themselves to be that cut and dry about their feelings of working with someone - so, they resort to tactics which: distract, diffuse, and disengage gently and slowly. Dude should have simply asked himself this question: "If this guy wants to work with me on developing his material, why do I have a pool cue in my hand, instead of a pen, a sheet of notation paper, and a tape with other riffs from this guy?" Hard lessons learnt the hard way, gentle or rough, sucks either way.
@siberianhusky5874
@siberianhusky5874 2 года назад
Why was there editing done here?
@kevinkaatz883
@kevinkaatz883 3 года назад
Thats a good song dude, congrats. I had that album, which is actually good. Iron Maiden kicks ass
@andrewjohnson388
@andrewjohnson388 3 года назад
As they say in music 'Everybody is a thieving Jackdoor' way it goes!
@michaelhowardrosskrh74
@michaelhowardrosskrh74 2 года назад
Hey dude the greenscreen studio behind you is pretty lame. Get a clue.
@sstottz717
@sstottz717 6 месяцев назад
Gene, don't act like you were the victim, everyone that feels they are entitled, but o'well. Did you have the original meeting recorded? Do you have proof other than hear-say and a friend agrees? Get over it and do better to protect your work if it's work protecting, if this is your profession, you should be smarter than you are appearing!
@massapower
@massapower 3 года назад
What CRAPPY background CGI ! 🙄
@j-rod6420
@j-rod6420 3 года назад
Mom's basement didn't cut it.
@bryonkidder6199
@bryonkidder6199 3 года назад
Funny I'm a huge Ace Frehley & KISS fan but I've never heard of this "hit song" you're talking about...lmao!
@JT-wb9hl
@JT-wb9hl 3 года назад
A five minute ad that I couldn't skip?
@highdb1
@highdb1 3 года назад
Omg get to the point
@arthurhall8238
@arthurhall8238 3 года назад
..you can skip forward on the video....smh
@spacecase7504
@spacecase7504 3 года назад
@@arthurhall8238 Timestamp doe?
@kuriaki71
@kuriaki71 3 года назад
He’s building up the back story
@jaypell2.0
@jaypell2.0 3 года назад
It’s HIS story to tell,
@jbright1980
@jbright1980 3 года назад
I agree. Get to the point
@robertriecker7867
@robertriecker7867 2 года назад
Wow Gene your too nice.
@renatamalvern670
@renatamalvern670 4 месяца назад
OMG, Can we get to the point !!!
@Smith-Orange
@Smith-Orange 3 года назад
It doesn't sound like Ace's work at all. I'm glad you got credit, and hopefully got paid. Even though I don't like the song, it sucks they tried to rip you off like that!
@DragonflyII
@DragonflyII 5 месяцев назад
Dude looks older than Ace, sure Ace wears a hairpiece but this guy must've had a rough life or something. There's usually two sides to a story (or a coin!) with the truth usually somewhere in the middle. Would like to hear the other side before forming judgement. Have no reason to believe this guy's claim as nobody has ever mentioned it over the years. Plus his timeframes are out of whack which put his credibility into question. Fresh out of Kiss? Ace had to legally sit out 4 years due to signing the KISS contract, he had Frehley's Comet going with Richie Scarlett in '85 & Todd Howarth replaced him in late '86. Howarth played on 'Second Sighting'. Also, the Bryan Adams album mentioned was called 'Reckless' for the record. Not buying this guy's story at all, unless he can prove his claim.
@michaelbarbarelli3764
@michaelbarbarelli3764 3 года назад
GREAT story and video. Thank you! Can you tell Gene to update his Pyramid Productions site? (It still says Copyright © 2020)
@crazywisdom2
@crazywisdom2 2 года назад
Great interview....
@nowomennokids641
@nowomennokids641 5 месяцев назад
That was lame; HUGE build-up and then when it gets to the actual lawsuit they dont say much...
@paulpk9927
@paulpk9927 3 года назад
This was SO off point ..SO long ..SO many weird mistakes. Ace doesn't have a band member named Derick ( Philip ( bass ) Ryan ,( guitar ) Jeremy (guitar )and Christopher ( drums) Gene Simmons vault/solo band , I could be wrong but those are the musians listed when you are looking up A.F. touring band. Insane was an OK song but not a smash hit , and dude I'm not a session player but I know if you play sessions you should get scale rates or work out hourly rates not "" 50 $ "" bucks for your talents. You got a writers credit for taking Aces riff/idea an making it flow , to completion that takes talent and inspiration. It is a shame that you have stopped playing , by the description given.. you have the chops , feel and groove as a guitarist. I feel like , as most performers do that once something opens the door that the flood gates should slam open an it's wide open for great things 24/7 . It sucks that it' happened that way , but it sounded like you went on to do some Awesome projects. Now I'm gonna listen to Insane again 🤘🤟
@syngynm5237
@syngynm5237 3 года назад
I'm sure Tommy Thayer is the one to dupe the song he isnt very original.
@raaawkstaaar
@raaawkstaaar 7 месяцев назад
he wasn't referring to the current band LMFAO Derrek Hawkins played in Ace's band around 2010/11
@robertrandolph9756
@robertrandolph9756 3 года назад
THIS GUY IS NOTHING BUT AN OPPORTUNIST OF THE WORST KIND IN MY OPINION. HE WAS NEVER QUITE GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE IT IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, SO HE DECIDES TO TAKE A SHORT CUT AND CAPITALISE ON THE FACT THAT HE AND ACE HAD JAMMED A FEW TIMES AND HAD "ALLEGEDLY" CO-WRITTEN ONE SONG TOGETHER WITH ACE. ALLEGEDLY MIND YOU. FROM THE WAY THIS GUY DESCRIBES HIS "RELATIONSHIP" WITH ACE IT WOULD APPEAR TO ME THAT ACE WAS KIND AND VERY GRACIOUS BY TAKING THIS GUY UNDER HIS WING AND ALLOWING HIM TO CO-WRITE A COUPLE OF LINES IN THE FREHLEY'S COMET CLASSIC "INSANE". ASCAP FINALLY PAID THIS GUY HIS ROYALTIES FOR A COUPLE OF HIS LINES ACE USED ON THAT SONG. AND WHAT WAS HIS REWARD FOR HIS " CONTRIBUTION" ? $1.75
@daleplatino
@daleplatino 3 года назад
Is Ace's guitar player still cutting hair?
@danstarr374
@danstarr374 Год назад
this guy has no idea about the business side...apparently never copyrighted his part of the song either...
@seagullpoet
@seagullpoet 3 года назад
Ace took him for a rocket ride.
@sirchromiumdowns2015
@sirchromiumdowns2015 10 месяцев назад
DMX doesn't live near by anymore. He is dead.
@DanielHernandez-tn2ie
@DanielHernandez-tn2ie 5 месяцев назад
wha?
@eclecticx
@eclecticx 7 месяцев назад
Frehley is a a piece of work. Not a good one either.
@Danhall67
@Danhall67 3 года назад
Quite boring.
@syngynm5237
@syngynm5237 3 года назад
Wow sounds like Space Ace had a substance problem
@magnusbnordh9624
@magnusbnordh9624 5 месяцев назад
Reminds me of John 5. !
@brianblanke2084
@brianblanke2084 3 года назад
It's not Ace's fault you don't know how the music business works. That's the way it's been done for YEARS. If I recorded one of Ace's songs, he would sue me for a percentage of what the album grossed based on how much the song influenced sales. He'd sue me for 5 mil then arrange for a settlement. The only reason the song "Insane" ever saw the light of day was BECAUSE Ace was playing it. If Mr. Moore would have released it on his own, nobody would have even heard of it. Just like you're using the CGI studio behind you to make it look like you're a pro in the business but you've probably never even seen the inside of a studio that nice, and stretched you 15 minutes of Fame into 43:56. Have a nice day though.
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 2 года назад
Harsh. But you’re not wrong.
@mickblack2800
@mickblack2800 2 года назад
Who would admit they went to an lron Maiden concert ?
@katkenobi6765
@katkenobi6765 3 года назад
Well, we do think highly of ourself don’t we, Gene. Thinking you would tour with Ace or whatever, every single person knows that’s not how it works. Every single person knows that any IP (intellectual property) of ANY SORT, needs to be documented. I’m not even in the entertainment industry, but I know that when I was 12! Paperwork FIRST. If that’s not possible, you make a document trail so that you get you credit/money. And it’s NOT the artist who pays, it’s the LABEL. Again, something I knew at 12. (Simply from reading interviews in rock mags. The artists always mention something about how the industry works). And btw, since you claim Ace was your guitar hero, it’s pronounced FRAYLEE, NOT freelee. I’ve known that since I was 5, mum was a huge Kiss fan and Ace was her crush! I don’t know, something about you or your story seems off. But, whatever. Also, learn how to properly use green screen, because the shit you used in this “interview” looks like a 4 year old made it. Hey, how’d you spend the $12 that was your cut from the song?
@TheIkaika777
@TheIkaika777 3 года назад
The only crime is the music business itself.
@mr.c8033
@mr.c8033 3 года назад
Wrong. Ace committed the crime. Theft.
@TheIkaika777
@TheIkaika777 3 года назад
Mr. C, how did he commit the crime of theft when the song was credited to the right person on the record as the guy stated and the fact that you don’t have to get permission to record someone’s song as long as you give them credit which was done and they get payment. If he wasn’t getting payment then that’s the record company’s fault not Ace’s. Ace doesn’t own or run Atlantic Records.
@MENFUSSMIKE
@MENFUSSMIKE 3 года назад
Insane was a hit?!?!?
@switchbladeactiondance
@switchbladeactiondance 3 года назад
When i was 14 in 1988 ot was to me😳😂😂❤
@MENFUSSMIKE
@MENFUSSMIKE 3 года назад
its not a bad song...one of the better ones on Second Sighting but it was far from a hit
@switchbladeactiondance
@switchbladeactiondance 3 года назад
@Dave Fitzgerald I was such a kid at 14, and didn't kno anything. And KISS was EVERYTHING to me back then.
@joeanthony7759
@joeanthony7759 2 года назад
Only to Ace Frehley fans.
@MartinAlvarado
@MartinAlvarado Год назад
One of the best Ace Frehley’s songs ever!
@MD-wk3gj
@MD-wk3gj 2 года назад
I understand thinking at the time Ace knew what he was doing but wow, how far from the truth that was! As we look back Ace really was at his best performance while in KISS. I get it, having Gene & Paul as a boss wasn’t for him but damn, they got the best out of him.
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