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why i hate living in italy 

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#lifeinitaly #livinginitaly #internationalcouple
this week we bring to you a rather unreserved list of things we hate about living in Italy. we really held ourselves on a long leash here, we feel that we were speaking from the heart on some of the real issues we see in Rome.
ALSO we forgot to mention for anyone who might kindly suggest for us to simply leave rome (lol): daisy is in the final semester of her four year degree program here and we haven't always felt this way about rome but these are some opinions we've formed after living here for years! we feel that italy is a wonderful place to vacation, it's simply worth considering what your priorities are in terms of atmosphere if you're considering living here longterm. & obviously not everyone will have the same experience as we have had.
so curious to hear anyone’s thoughts in the comments below!
00:00 intro
01:15 public transport
03:11 italians are rude
06:27 food in italy
07:04 trash is everywhere
07:18 tourists are everywhere
07:50 italy is racist
09:51 misogyny in italy
11:12 cost of living
see you all next week and in the meantime:
siamogays
daisy & ??

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@francescolupi4691
@francescolupi4691 8 месяцев назад
Notice how people in bureaucratic positions in Italy act like they are doing you a favour and look genuinely bothered by your presence?
@user-eu2eh6et9s
@user-eu2eh6et9s 8 месяцев назад
Is that any different to the US??
@francescolupi4691
@francescolupi4691 8 месяцев назад
@@user-eu2eh6et9s I don't know, but, in the other countries I had the chance to live, receptionists, help desks and government employees were way more eager to help and do their job in an efficient and compassionate fashion
@TheIronweed-vx5lg
@TheIronweed-vx5lg 8 месяцев назад
Cioe? (some Yankee)
@borysronkowski1698
@borysronkowski1698 8 месяцев назад
I started watching, thinking it'll be yet another American girl my age complaining about her soft and comfortable life. But no. _Ya'll_ made some solid points. You took the your topic seriously, recognised nuance and made an effort even for those whom might disagree. As someone of the same generation, I appreciate that.
@QEsposito510
@QEsposito510 8 месяцев назад
I thought the same thing when I started watching, and that idea turned out to be true.
@sarahlang3438
@sarahlang3438 8 месяцев назад
Not mention the bureaucracy! As a foreigner, it’s sometimes so hard to navigate all the ups and downs of the dolce vita😓 Thanks for sharing!
@Auliv
@Auliv 8 месяцев назад
@franz9573
@franz9573 4 месяца назад
if the foreign cuisine is good it is also accepted in italy, japanese cuisine is very popular in italy, the rest has a really hard life, they usually close again because the italians are very traditional, i am one of them. Apart from Italian, I sometimes go out for mexican food. Thats it.
@cathleensaage9043
@cathleensaage9043 8 месяцев назад
i love the guest appearance (hi kim!!!!)
@innerglowhealing
@innerglowhealing 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate you taking the risk of speaking your truth! And remember, anyone's response to your truth is their personal process and it is none of your business. The things that trigger us are speaking to something unresolved within us and each time we are triggered it is an opportunity to become more conscious of who we really are. I love the possibilities that open up when we speak up. I also can appreciate that you are trying to share perspective for others who may be interested in living abroad. Any way about it I enjoyed you sharing your perspective and as an American you have been raised with the freedom to do so (at least without imprisonment). Even if not one other person agrees with you, your experience is valid and should be heard if you choose to share.
@franz9573
@franz9573 4 месяца назад
Racism also exists in Italy, but it is different than in the USA, it is more of a cultural racism than one based on race. This is particularly the case of southern Italy. Another difference is between rural and urban areas, in the USA racism is stronger in rural areas, in Italy it is the opposite (southern Italy). In the small villages in Italy nobody cares whether someone is black, white, green or yellow, the important thing is to respect the traditions of the respective villages and to help shape them, then you are part of the family. Then you have to distinguish between northern and southern Italy. Even if the southern Italians are actually more conservative, they are more pragmatic towards foreigners than in the north. South of Rome, however, you will hardly find any restaurants that are not Italian. Tradition is a big thing in Italy, especially in the south.
@paulodacosta944
@paulodacosta944 2 месяца назад
La lega nord insegna....al nord Italia non sono così civilizzati come dici tu
@zoilasfishcity
@zoilasfishcity 8 месяцев назад
Speak your truth! 💖
@chadwickLB
@chadwickLB 8 месяцев назад
Oh the d-ROME-a! Mama mia! 😉 Speaking truth around toughts, feelings, and opinion(s), this we are all entitled to of course, and none of it deters me from taking public transport to get there one day someday... As a fun tourist! Come on Italy, spread more amore like its jam on a cornetto! ❤🇮🇹 Looking forward to the next post!
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
this is the kind of positivity needed for mankind to persevere !!
@beaturner
@beaturner 8 месяцев назад
Loved your bluntness! I would have liked to hear more on the misogyny though. I've read a lot of comments about that, but I was hoping you could have given some examples to have a better idea. Regarding the trash I completely agree, but I think that one is more specific to Rome. On another note, I love the quality and editing of your vids! what kind of microphone do you use? Keep up the good work 🥰
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
Thank you! Regarding the misogyny, I feel like enough could be said to make an entire video about it but I am not ready for the heat 🥵 And yes, it’s a real shame with the trash because the city certainly has the resources to do better. We use a DJI wireless mic set so ?? and I can talk at the same time. 😊
@user-nb2em9wz2v
@user-nb2em9wz2v 3 месяца назад
@@siamogay I feel Italians are more arrogant than Greeks. Greeks are very sociable, personally I easily respond to a tourist, especially if he wants to hang out with, I am ok with that.
@GiulioTappino
@GiulioTappino 3 месяца назад
@@user-nb2em9wz2vsame here in Italy, it just depends who you meet. Plenty of famous youtubers that travelled through Italy say how welcoming we are, and same as you I would be very happy to hang out with tourists and I'm always happy to help them!
@abigailmilovancevic926
@abigailmilovancevic926 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for being real. You can live somewhere, and make life work, but there is nothing wrong with discussing your experiences
@emanuele.gualandri
@emanuele.gualandri 8 месяцев назад
I am italian, the algorithm recommended this video to me. I haven't watched it yet but straight up I am gonna say it, this video will blow up ahahahahah and you will receive many angry italian comments ps. if you live in Rome my God I completely understand the struggle ahahahah nothing works in that freaking city. It's literally the most beautiful woman you have ever met but it's just a walking red flag
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
yes we did not see this coming 😅 ... thank you for being nice and understanding the struggle 🙏 (consider yourself exempt from the rude italians mentioned in this video lmao)
@DE-in3rn
@DE-in3rn 5 месяцев назад
EVERYTHING is spot on.
@GiulioTappino
@GiulioTappino 3 месяца назад
Hoping my comment will age well, you can see from the comments that Italians are not rude and actually agree with you on many of your points :) I would like to say a few things in our defence: sometimes you may think someone is being rude while it's just a matter of language barrier. Italy is not just Rome, each city and region is going to be different, so maybe this video should be about Romans you've met ahah! Rude Italians are as rude with other Italians as well, it's not because of racism. Yes, some Italians are racist but most are not: consider how many are not, how many left Italy, how many resources and people we employ to literally save the lives of a continuous stream of migrants coming our way (more than any other country probably), and this is also why some Italians are racist, they are mostly angry and ignorant. While America built a wall, I wouldn't say America as a society is racist, and by the way I believe there are countries in Europe that are far more racist than Italy. Also, during the 90's and early 2000's we had people coming from the balkans and most of them are living and working in Italy. Today we have lots of problems ourselves with the quality of life and job situation, and that's obviously going to be the same for migrants coming here, so it's pretty much impossible to help them more than we are already doing. Regarding food, Rome is full of other types of cuisines so I'm not sure why you felt like that, but certainly is not as full as other countries (which is both good and bad), and outside of the main cities it's sooo much worse! I struggle so much with that, in my region it's impossible to find Indian and Vietnamese food, which is totally normal in other countries. Regarding misogyny, our current president is a woman and I wouldn't say we are more misogynistic than others, but I can definitely see that at times, in the end I think it also depends, and our MAMMA's are our whole world! :D Cost of living and low salaries, that's true everywhere in Italy. Public transportation? We hate it! In conclusion, I'm sorry for your experience and I hope you will also visit the rest of Italy! I always say, if you know a couple of Italian words and come here for vacation, amazing! Living here is a totally different story and I can definitely see myself living elsewhere. Regarding your video, thank you and I appreciate your respect and everyone should be free to talk politely and objectively of their own experiences! Edit: it didn't age well, I'm reading some ignorant Italian comments. Sad.
@alexander.pocock
@alexander.pocock 7 месяцев назад
I understand and sympathise completely - I do really understand - London is better than Milan, Rome, etc.
@alexander.pocock
@alexander.pocock 7 месяцев назад
Londoners are more polite - bureaucratically, the UK functions far better
@paulodacosta944
@paulodacosta944 2 месяца назад
​@@alexander.pocock😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@zoilasfishcity
@zoilasfishcity 8 месяцев назад
Aunt Kimma cameo 😍
@Brazzoification
@Brazzoification Месяц назад
i think the probls you’re pointing out are real but much more specific to rome and don’t represent the rest of italy
@tropicalermine
@tropicalermine 8 месяцев назад
You and ?? make a great duo
@costa97vm
@costa97vm 8 месяцев назад
A couple of this ones apply mostly to rome, but many others are true as well. lot of reason why there is so many italians living abroad
@ava_lavidaloca3408
@ava_lavidaloca3408 5 месяцев назад
🙏 I couldn’t agree more ! I have been living in Italy for 2 years (for work) and I haven t experienced so much discrimination in my entire life. One of the worst countries of the world on this point .
@paulodacosta944
@paulodacosta944 2 месяца назад
Stati uniti d'America fa molto di peggio ...
@Freakybananayo
@Freakybananayo 7 месяцев назад
I lived in Puglia which is pretty far from Rome and all the same problems are there too apart from maybe rent. I liked living there and I love returning for holidays but it’s hard to integrate with Italians if you’re not Italian… it’s just the way their culture is. By the way, how come you are still living in Rome if there’s all these negatives?
@siamogay
@siamogay 7 месяцев назад
Puglia is even more beautiful than Rome, that must have been so nice. We agree completely that it is hard to integrate when you're not an Italian. In some ways it might be for the best... some seem to believe that this difficulty is one feature that keeps Italian culture thriving. We aren't sure how to feel about it exactly. We live in Rome because there are many things we do enjoy about living here (this video was focused on the negatives), and because Daisy is finishing her degree program here and ?? has a nice job. 😌
@lauterunvollkommenheit4344
@lauterunvollkommenheit4344 5 месяцев назад
I think the ancient Roman legal maxim is still very useful: audiatur et altera pars.
@Darv-jy1fu
@Darv-jy1fu 8 месяцев назад
Great that you spoke the truth.
@danielaalba5064
@danielaalba5064 8 месяцев назад
It’s the outfit for me…
@Nadaaaa92
@Nadaaaa92 8 месяцев назад
There has to be one of these for Germany or Germany vs Italy 👌
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
so we can get cancelled by the Germans too? 😩 (jk coming soon we got u)
@Nadaaaa92
@Nadaaaa92 8 месяцев назад
@@siamogay worst thing that could happen they would tell you to leave which you already did lol Yoooolooo
@user-nb2em9wz2v
@user-nb2em9wz2v 3 месяца назад
@@siamogay Greece, France, Uk, USA are Allies. Just take a look at WW2.
@danielaalba5064
@danielaalba5064 8 месяцев назад
😮😮😮
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
i hope this face doesn’t mean ur mortified 😳 i had to call em like i see them 😔
@cathleensaage9043
@cathleensaage9043 8 месяцев назад
what do you think about germany???
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
i can also make a video about why i sometimes hated living in Germany 😍😍
@KicoWolf
@KicoWolf 8 месяцев назад
Pretty bold to live in one of Italy's most touristic, cosmopolitan cities as an American expat and complain about tourists and cost of living. Italians aren't rude, they just have a different conception of what rudeness is. People don't feel forced to be overly nice and bubbly all the time, to me that feels icky and fake. Rolling your eyes at someone is just not considered as rude. Food isn't bad, complaining about lack of diversity is missing the point - the food scene is less about breadth (eating cuisines from around the world, an extremely recent luxury and requirement) but rather depth (appreciating how different restaurants or recipes engender subtly different flavors). Sadly, racism and misogyny are real problems. I'm not so sure that racism is so hidden in the US though, depends on where you are - in more rural areas things get really weird, and are not so hidden. And yes, trash is terrible in Rome. I will say, it would have been nice to hear more about root causes: - cost of living is propelled by bad economic management and excess tourism - trash issues are caused by crime - public transit problems are caused by incompetence, bureaucracy, and corruption
@Nadaaaa92
@Nadaaaa92 8 месяцев назад
I mostly agree except the point on the food scene. Diversity in cuisines in metropolitan areas is not always about luxury but also about migration. As an example, Mexican cuisine in the US or Indian food in England. Maybe in Italy that hasn’t gained momentum because of the competition or the local population isn’t open to it? I don’t know but it is a fair point
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for your comment, I also mostly agree. I would first note that my partner, ??, isn't American but an economic migrant who has lived and worked in Italy for almost a decade. In terms of the cost of living, I think the issue with excess tourism and digital nomad expats is true, especially in terms of gentrification of certain areas of the city that were once inhabited primarily by working-class Italians that are now almost exclusively populated by tourists staying in converted BnBs that have rendered these areas unaffordable. I think that our concern with the cost of living remains valid: my partner makes an Italian salary and can barely afford the rent nonetheless, regardless of the very critical reasons why. I would also add that trash issues are caused by crimes condoned by the state. It is indeed frustrating to consider that this is a fixable issue -- the same can be said for public transport. There is no question as to whether or not Rome specifically profits enough from tourism (considering the exploitation of historical landmarks to the point of rapid degradation) to target these problems. I think I would have elaborated a bit more on the specifics of my complaints had I'd known that this video would be viewed by so many.
@franz9573
@franz9573 4 месяца назад
@@Nadaaaa92 Italy also has very few Mac Donalds or Burger Kings and if so then only in tourist areas where mainly tourists go to eat. There is only 1 Starbucks in Italy (Milan) why should we drink such an overpriced coffee when we have more than 100 different types of coffee in Italy? Italians make no compromises when it comes to fashion and food and that is unlikely to change, that is our lifestyle. Germans also drink 99% German beer, why should they drink other beers from other countries when there is very good German beer? The girl in the video expect that people become more open but she is also in a bubble, buying food that doesn't allow for compromise. Where is the difference? In italy is important "fare bella figura" and "l'aspetto del cibo influenza il fatto che ci piaccia o che abbiamo voglia di mangiarlo". We have one of the highest life expectancy in the world and our lifestyle and our food is one of the reasons for that, why should we change? Maybe others should eat differently and put family and friends first and not focus on the individual.
@user-nb2em9wz2v
@user-nb2em9wz2v 3 месяца назад
@@siamogay Italians were forced to change their names and Italianize it during Mousolini times. So some of them you won't know where they come from.
@naymyomaung6440
@naymyomaung6440 8 месяцев назад
“But people post things like this about the US all the time” the whole personality of Americans. Italians are different to Americans; everyone’s different to Americans and for the better.
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
Strongly agree. 👍
@leonardovaccaro2038
@leonardovaccaro2038 8 месяцев назад
0:05 Bruh..
@millllbs
@millllbs 8 месяцев назад
Algorithm brought me here hahah
@siamogay
@siamogay 8 месяцев назад
I think the algorithm wanted you to subscribe 🤗😂
@Supika893
@Supika893 8 месяцев назад
JUST LEAVE THEN. Go to Lampedusa and take your thousands of immigrant to your home..."racist", just leave.
@gggmmmxspace
@gggmmmxspace 4 месяца назад
So, The Italy is Worst Place in the World… for you… That’s a Superficial opinion… È irrispettoso parlare di Italia e Italiani in questo modo. Non hai sufficiente esperienza per definire il popolo Italiano. Lo stai descrivendo con pregiudizio e stereotipi… premettendo: “No, ma non vorrei che vi offendiate! È la mia opinione…” e poi… sei tu che diventi rude… Eterno o non eterno che tu sia…. Non concordo… su tutta la linea… e intendo anche sugli altri argomenti… Gli Stati Uniti, sono casa tua… ci sono dei posti con dei bei paesaggi… no? Ci sono anche altri Paesi Europei… escludi l’Italia che non ti piace, e divertiti…
@sbjncn
@sbjncn 8 месяцев назад
then move out , why make a whole video?
@Nadaaaa92
@Nadaaaa92 8 месяцев назад
Why not express one‘s opinion about things? Might help others gain insight
@cookiemonster2630
@cookiemonster2630 8 месяцев назад
So that anyone who is considering moving to Italy/Rome knows what it's like..
@GiulioTappino
@GiulioTappino 3 месяца назад
Are you Italian? In that case I don't want to be associated with you.
@zoilasfishcity
@zoilasfishcity 8 месяцев назад
De de de de
@lucavuola3538
@lucavuola3538 8 месяцев назад
There is no misoginy and racism in Rome.....rudeness? You are living in a big city and people is generally stressed, what do you expect?
@jumpzj
@jumpzj 3 месяца назад
The racism you speak of is mostly anger from Italians toward their government for not taking control of illegal migration from n. africa... i'd say the Italians have a good reason to be pissed and that is regardless of what skin color the illegal migranst are.
@jackhakken
@jackhakken 8 месяцев назад
Go back.
@ravikiran4495
@ravikiran4495 2 месяца назад
Nah Imma go front
@mewes7
@mewes7 8 месяцев назад
public transport sucks? stop lying.
@Auliv
@Auliv 8 месяцев назад
Have you ever lived in Rome? I mezzi fanno cagare.
@chadwickLB
@chadwickLB 8 месяцев назад
😂
@janeyre82
@janeyre82 4 месяца назад
Qualcuno aveva voglia di qualche like... Non mi vergogno assolutamente di dire che questo video è pieno di cagate formidabili. E me ne strasbatto completamente di chi verrà a dirmi che sono solo il classico italiano risentito. Io in un posto che non mi piace NON CI VIVO, meno che mai se non è nemmeno il posto in cui sono nato. It's just as simple as that.
@GiulioTappino
@GiulioTappino 3 месяца назад
Lei ha elencato molto educatamente le cose che non apprezza dell'Italia e quella che è la sua esperienza, non che non ci siano invece tantissime altre cose che ami dell'Italia. E' totalmente normale e corretto che parli delle proprie esperienze. Se i punti che elenca non rispecchiano in gran parte la nostra Italia, vivi in un'Italia immaginaria! E soprattutto questo è il suo punto di vista, di lei che viene da fuori, ovvio che certe cose le vivi diversamente da lei essendo italiano, ma per una persona che non parla italiano magari è tutto diverso!
@Lokichangchang1
@Lokichangchang1 3 месяца назад
Why do u talk like ur on anesthesia and dress like my grandma 😂
@tic-tacdrin-drinn1505
@tic-tacdrin-drinn1505 8 месяцев назад
You smile the whole time you speak. Do you think it’s “rude” to talk without smiling?
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