Why I HATE Sports Card Shows (THE UNTOLD TRUTH) 

Absolutely, basically what I did also, had a house but sold it. Hoping to get another soon ! Thats the smart play for sure, many just threw it all away

Sure you did ,champ.

@@user-hm5zb1qn6g Yes I did. I wasn’t stupid. The people that bought my cards were though.

Yeah for sure. I completely agree with your take

Hey thanks for commenting ! Thanks for sharing your insight and what you have experienced, really appreciate how you articulated all of that. Definitely right man, especially if your in a big city, Miami, Dallas is a good one, etc where they have those local shows, it can pay off for sure. And there are definitely deals, guys who like rip stuff and just sell it to rip more, you can look over raw stuff in person, ETC. I have respect and admiration for people who can go in and crush it at these shows. Great insight though, keep crushing it at these shows !

Yeah I agree. And that’s why I ebay auction everything. Let the market decide. I’ll do a video soon on why I think that’s the only way to sell cards. And that’s why I “overpay” at times as well. For stuff online. I agree with you, but not dealers that want 140% for stuff. Like 94-97% comps for cash stuff, you hang in there and have the right stuff ? I’m with you

🤣🤣🤣. Yeah man staying home Is where it’s at. Dudes with stuff not marked “IDK MAN LET ME CHECK THE LATEST SALE, then comes back with, IDK JUST OFFER!” And you could shoot 110% comps at them and they decline. Lol. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing !

@@SCVSportsCards I love when they say that like they just want to give it away, and you throw out a number and they act insulted and counter 150% of comps

@@zachpierce641 yeah man. Couldn’t have said it better. It’s usually only people wanting to pay 60% or people seeking about 140%. Madness and insanity !

Those tables with zero prices showing are the worst. I quickly skip them every time. They are losing so many sales, they have nfi. @@SCVSportsCards

Thank you very much for giving me a shot ! Yeah you’re not going to get that same regulated bend the knee positivity that’s fake garbage here. Never. I will support controversial things from time to time I guess, but I answer to no one

Yeah. Exactly. Not even worth dealing with or trying on. Thanks so much for watching and commenting !

Thanks ! Yeah I didn’t want to beat into it too much, but signers and how it was in 80’s sure most people have it in their head. Wasn’t around for 80’s and never been too big into signings either. But I agree from what I hear and seems like, seems like it was more catered to back then. Now it’s just not convenient everyone walking around with tens of thousands in dollars or cards, 20-40% OP, no thanks

Yeah exactly. It’s just all a push pull, and you have to find out what works. I love paying the fees because they provide immense value to me ! Thanks for watching and commenting !

shit I would buy it all in bulk lol SCV you can have the purdy

@@26ryanpat yeah I’m not into from nothing patch cards but I wouldn’t mind a true RPA Of him nonetheless lol

".I have sold some random things on ebay that would never sell around here or at a local show." - This is the real problem with card shows, its full of flippers trying to buy the same 3-5 players from the same 2-3 sports. Very few collectors that are interested in rare cards go to these shows.

@@sp123 exactly ! Not going to find any of the stuff you want for PC Typically. All Mahomes Jordan LeBron LUKA!! Herbert Burrow Zion Ja. The newer guys especially no one really likes, but just all trade around.

Exactly. Or a meet and greet/reunion for buddies.

Exactly man. Has been like that forever. Very few looking to realistically deal !

Fair enough, like your points ! Thanks for sharing. I am sales tax exempt because my state has no state income, so that’s a big thing for me. But no shipping time and cost is huge, especially on cheap stuff

Absolutely. Feels like a high school clique thing no thanks

Thanks for watching and commenting ! Yeah just my experience, that’s great that it’s a low barrier to entry cost wise locally. Keep doing that for sure ! And no returns as well don’t forget that if done in person. Hit the nail on the head - either people are at 140% of price, or want to pay 60% of price. Not much in the middle of that.

@@SCVSportsCards Yeah, it's convenient for me cause I'm in Philly / South Jersey area. A lot of shows relatively close.

@@BrianDonato yeah I know there is a ton in that region. Most of them seems like actually

Yeah exactly, if near you you have good luck on the cheaper stuff, by all means ! But all the over eBay and other stuff, no thanks from me !

What do you want on the Purdy rpa ? Might be interested not sure what those go for. But if it’s a lot of cards like that, definitely want to do singles. The only mid to high end lot buyer I have used and like is bigboyd Sportscards. Guarantee show dealers would pass or offer 40-60% only. Don’t want that !

Thank you for the advise. Last I heard they are going for around $11K (of course going up after every win). But I am trying to use it to help sell my entire lot. Which I value at around $20K with the Purdy@@SCVSportsCards

Thanks so much for subscribing and commenting ! That is great to here, that’s the only way shows can make a comeback and get the next generation involved !

@SCVSportsCards Yes, personally, I think card shows should also have an exclusive stage or area for collectors who just want to flex their collection like an Art Gallery Show. I loved how the National Card Show had the Michael Jordan 31 PSA 10 RC Cards Frame by Probstein. It really intrigued and inspired my wife with card collections.

Same. I didn’t even mention all the guys that have stuff out not tagged. That’s one of the most pathetic things, ten people at once asking for prices “UuUuuHhhHhHHH LET ME SEE WHAT THE LATEST SOLD FOR.” Like bro stfu lol

Thank you so much for watching and commenting ! Really appreciate it ! If there’s ever a video you don’t love or agree with - comment and I can clarify or definitely want to hear your position !

@@SCVSportsCards Love that.

Please elaborate and I can clarify my position or explain whatever it is. Or if it’s just the feeling you get from listening and can’t explain it, all good, there’s people I like and don’t as well. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting your thoughts !

Absolutely I don’t enjoy long drawn out in person negotiations. Exactly eBay is where you find all that not randomly at a show

Yeah I deal more in the high end slabs category truthfully, not low end, but I know shows can be great for that. It does take a lot of deals like that though to make travel and expenses worth it in my opinion. If local though, that is convenient ! Thanks for watching and commenting !

Yeah exactly. Just like the average sports bet is $4, it’s not all about crazy flashy high end at 140% of real price. But yeah, I mean I would imagine for National and Dallas even, it’s a big stimulant for hotels of money, and since cards exploded, they know the drill and jam up the prices.

I feel you. The breaks can be the worst. So easy to lose a lot so fast !

Very good points ! I will in the next few months get to a video on shops, really couldn’t agree more. That’s the goal of this channel, just to be a guy at a shop or show you can talk with or listen to and whether you agree or not it’s that type of discussion. Interesting on shows, many people stand by them and have a lot of success. Shops though we agree !

@@SCVSportsCards I think card shows you just have to have some people skills and some negotiating skills. I feel like sometimes I get good deals, because I’m a nice person . I just don’t run up to a dealer offering 60% not even willing to look the guy in the eye. Some people are so aggressive, and act like the dealers have to move their stuff and just desperate and you have cash so you have all the power. Some people just need to humble themselves and not be jerks and realize all these dealers at shows aren’t hurting for money As for the overpriced dealers . You just have to remember. Some dealers are good with just buying stuff. I sometimes wonder if the way to go wouldn’t be to partner with someone and set up a table not necessarily to sell but just have people come up to me with deals. Especially the guys that set up and have actual shops. They are their to buy and do dealer to dealer deals. They aren’t there to give you some screaming deal on a handful of cards

Very much no problem glad you enjoy

That is very true and a good point. I personally don’t like carrying around gloves and jewelers loupe and all of that needed to look over cards, but it can be helpful especially on bigger stuff. Some dealers though get all worked up about it old rigid dudes mainly freak out and are like “MESS IT UP YOU BUY IT ..” and all of that

@@SCVSportsCards haha I’ve yet to come across these old rigid dudes. I’ve been blessed enough to be around some nicer guys in the hobby locally.

@@Dtownrelics2 that’s good. Definitely mixed experiences for everyone !

True. Everything tanks so fast, people bail so fast ! No patience !

If you enjoy it and it's expendable income what does it matter?

@@andrewparry7300 yeah if it’s disposable income, you collect, just have so much fun, doesn’t matter. Just trying to help people looking to do cards full time, like I do. This was a lot of people’s first exposure to my videos, and I’ve explained more in my other ones about if you collect or want to hold long term or whatever, not talking to you, but just am talking to those looking to run a business that profits quickly. Without just saying “oh buy this or that guy.”

Sorry wasn't replying to you - was replying to the reply! Appreciate this video and your honesty. I'm on the same page with most of what you said. I enjoy the hobby and the challenge to try and buy, sell and build my PC. Not about the financial gain for me which is tough when taxes come around. I cringe at card shows so don't go although my town has one of it's first this weekend up the road so I'm going to check it out and see if I can buy and raw to grade since nash cards will be there to submit for PSA...

@@andrewparry7300 for sure my bad didn’t realize ! Definitely is rough with the new $600 tax threshold, because it was what $20,000 and that could help just people on the side at small scale buy and trade around cards essentially selling one for another. People with like legit side businesses or full time though is who I’m targeting, when I’m like be legit.

Yeah I haven’t either the shows I have been to. But just have felt inclined to before. Just have to know how to navigate it all

Yeah I appreciate it ! Check my first few videos, I was insanely nervous about all of this, when I was building the business actually I was locked away and didn’t do social stuff for years. Pandemic / whatever else, so I’m gradually rebuilding my skills and speaking and working on it. Didn’t expect this to be my biggest hit and heard it was really bad though. If you check my first video and few recent, you can see the differences on both in each direction !

Thanks so much for watching and commenting ! Really appreciate it ! I’m going to keep firing my takes as honestly and we’ll put out as I can trust me. This is only the beginning !

Exactly ! Appreciate you man. Yeah plus at the end I divulged into my reasonings, it’s just not the scenario and scene for ME. Too many negative factors for me personally

@SCVSportsCards I don't envy how tough what your doing must be. It would seem more and more cutthroat as the market changes. There is many questions I'm curious of for your benefit, but that's for another day.

@@royakard8536 the markets changing it’s tough man. Timing everything is insanely tough.

@SCVSportsCards I've looked at your site and seen your product. My main question is if all these other low skill guys are moving cheap cards via envelope. Why couldn't you add the low hanging fruit aspect to your routine? Perhaps running star or team lots to the roster easy enough as I would see. Again, I'm learning many things, and my perspective might be flawed.

@@royakard8536 I’ll answer this next q and a ! Great question

Thanks so much for checking me out and subscribing !

@@SCVSportsCards happy to collaborate and network cheers 🍻

Exactly ! Really frustrating stuff. I just don't see it getting any better. Thanks for liking and commenting !

Good question I’ll answer in a video. Shows I have been to have no variety no “grails” no nothing. eBay has all that !

Thanks for watching and commenting ! Really appreciate it !

That’s what I’m saying. It’s a friend and influencer meet and greet. And if that’s your thing then no complaints from me !

Oh yeah man. Doesn’t need to be said, not much hygiene going on either though definitely. Kind of like when I covered Panini, I didn’t harp on patches not being “game worn” too much since everyone is tired of it since it’s posted on IG Everyday. Same with this, people have beat it in already online. I try to be different / unique !

Carhartt 100617 Rain Defender® Hoodie - Zip Neck, Factory Seconds That’s the name of it on Sierra.com. Think they might be out though. Carhart half zip though, I love them, I bought two of the black and one grey. The factory seconds part not sure about that, I couldn’t tell at all !

@@SCVSportsCards thanks man!!

@@SMarrone15 of course !

Appreciate you watching and commenting !

Thanks so much ! Really appreciate you watching and commenting !

Thanks so much ! Appreciate you watching and commenting ! I try to take big different swings

I have started doing my lower end on COMC, some stuff sells well others don't do well at all !

nevermind I see you are just saying why you do not like them

Interesting. Yeah as you see at the end, it’s just not for me. But I have respect for you or anyone who likes them or cleans up. I know guys that flip table to table and clean up or set up or just have fun. But yeah, I’m no fun to travel with, just not a big fan.

Yeah for sure ! Which player is this ? Curious to hear maybe it’s someone mainstream because I never saw stuff of more obscure guys at shows personally. Thanks for watching and commenting !

@@SCVSportsCards I collect Curtis Martin, my father and I have been since he was drafted and I took over at some point and just kept it going. He is a RB and extra cheap all around (comparably of course lol) I also just get a single rookie of the starting lineup for the Pats and Bruins. Hockey I will get a young gun and future watch auto of all starters, a Prizm and optic rookie of all patriots and then exclusively any and every CM card, I have a yearly checklist of all cards that I’ve created and check them off and search at card shows. Most are in the pick em bins for cheap unless it’s those old school SSP inserts

@@willscastleofcards2456 interesting ! Yeah I’m all for shows if the chase pays off once in awhile definitely. I would think online would be way better, but come to think of it I like usc guys like mark sanchez and stuff, and no hits ever come on eBay

@@SCVSportsCards my other positive for shows is they are far more kid friendly and my boys love to dig through the boxes and find cool cards for super cheap. eBay is always a great outlet for me too and I have a million saved searches but sometime it’s tedious dealing with it and shitty eBay vendors or people who price a $5 card at $20 and refuses to budge on the price but that happens at shows too. Overall my stance is always “whatever suits your needs and preference” if you like shoes, go to shoes and set a hard budget, if you want online, do the same because the money can disappear quick and the fees are insane, a $5 card ends up $10-$12 with the tax and the shipping

Thank you bro ! Sorry to rain on the Vegas UFC card Show parade scene but, just don’t like shows.

Exactly ! They make you wait to search ebay laugh at your fair offer, just a complete circus and mess. Thanks for watching and commenting !

Bro the sports card radio shouting me out helping me take off

🤣🤣🤣

I’m working on it

Yeah I just teach doing business that way to stay above board

Yeah it just depends. I’m talking for guys like me who do this full time, I preach operating legit whether in person or not, online or not. But if you have a career or other business and it’s just a casual on the side thing, I feel you.

everyone's goal should be not paying taxes? Thats the most immature thing ive heard. Tax money is going to your parents or grandparents in social security, Tax money is extremely important to our infrastructure, if we didn't pay taxes this would be a sad place.

@@greggolan6489 yeah I preach to pay them I do but I know many don’t like it

@@greggolan6489 spoken like a true irs agent 🤣

America didn’t have taxes for the majority of its existence. It was only supposed to be a temporary thing to fund a war yet, of course, that promise was broken.

I could show you my spreadsheets, I personally am. I do about 6K items a year, every one accounted for. But it is my full time job basically so that is why. People doing it on the side yeah they are not accounting.

Thanks so much for watching and commenting ! Really appreciate it !

Haha

Yeah that’s what I’m saying. Not what it used to be. What I have noticed at least, no knock against anyone that loves them. Thanks for watching and commenting n

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On the flip side, you got scummy little kids with the "trade up" crap, who expect you to take a loss in a trade because they're kids. Fact is, 95% of people in the hobby now are scummy. Nobody collects anymore, it's just people looking to make quick money off lowballing or screwing other people over.

@@johnwayne9828 yeah exactly. I barely keep anything. I process probably 5K slabs a year and I collect about 20-25 cards in my PC At any given time. You have to admit - panini isn’t giving anyone much worth collecting, only utility is investing and flipping IMO.

@@johnwayne9828 some of my biggest wants right now are leaf cards, besides like topps chrome superfractors or nfl donruss full size game worn shields which are impossible

Yeah I just turn and burn stuff pretty quickly

I covered your deleted comment situation at the end of my most recent video. Not sure if it got deleted again because I couldn't find the one to put it in the video. But very sorry about all of that once again ! But still have no clue what happened !

It’s not so much that. That we have to agree or don’t. Everyone has a different reality in cards. Like I said at the end, “your truth” is a realistic phrase in most aspects of cards. Not in hard line real world issues, but in cards, we all have different experiences. Different things go different for different people. Always feel free to comment if you want me to clarify something, or just to share your disagreement. Thanks for coming over and watching and commenting !

@@SCVSportsCards we agree on the concept of “do you”

Thanks for commenting and watching ! Yeah what would you say there’s a few dealers per show that are down to work big deals like that ? I know I’ve been to Burbank cards before and they are good about letting you trade around and stuff to get what you want. Beneficial for sure in person to do all of that !

Not sure what you mean

Yeah I said it more than several times

That’s fine. I don’t want everyone to agree with me, if my takes were a dictatorship I would think it’s good but in reality it wouldn’t be. If you check my recent comps video though? Lot of people corroborating this video though with show experiences. But I respect your opinion, hope you have fun / do great at shows ! Thanks for watching and giving me a shot

🤣 I’m working on it lol - appreciate you pointing it out I do say ok a lot

I write off tons of things … Not saying you can’t write off a ton of stuff, shows just aren’t for me, that’s not even a major factor the costs to get there. It’s the show itself

@@SCVSportsCards But yet it was part of your thesis about why you hate them. Frankly, I just don't think you're going to the right kinds of shows. There are plenty out there that have very little vintage these days.

@@megaventures5612 I think we’re confused on what we’re talking about. I haven’t been to a show since 2018 either, and my issue wasn’t vintage being there though I don’t like vintage. We can agree to disagree

As a collector are you finding what you want at these shows ? To me it is just people trading around the same 6-8 guys endlessly and not much collecting going on. I agree with you but the issues is there is no money in it, so more people who are about collecting won't set up.

Aye man it’s what it is I think with a lot of this stuff Haha. Guys out here not being serious and just showing off. SCV: Not interested.

@@SCVSportsCards oh for sure. Its all a big swinging genital contest for the grown man children. Hey look at how big my slab is compared to your slab? Wow cool story bro, it’s cardboard. LOL.

Interesting you have success with yard sales and flea markets. Must be hot market for that in your area. I would assume those are even worse than shows

True I need a few more new ones I have a black one going out as well.