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Watch this video before you submit any rare cards or autographs to PSA. Their guarantee has several loopholes that this interview points out. It cost this collector $7500 …
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@minerism69 День назад

The part that gets me is not giving the card back. Similar to US Customs by confiscating anything at any time. Plus the part of fair market value. I'm sure Franks daughter who is a lawyer can find case study of deceptive practices. That is market manipulation. Could we choose what date a cards value is and send it in to PSA not to be uncharged?... and Frank has been a long time customer! This has me fuming!

@derekgraziano9499 4 дня назад

Collectors put PSA on the top of the mountain ... Only we.chamge it

@OlinKreutzRules 3 дня назад

That’s right!!!! Only we chamge it. J/k messing around. ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

PSA fails in every possible way. Pricing, consistency, communication, customer service, integrity, wait times, use of ugly baggies, uneven card placement… all pathetic. Not a shock that (yet again) they failed to honor their so-called “guarantee”.

@SportCardMadness 24 дня назад

Just an update: No resolution yet, but PSA President Ryan Hoge is involved now.

@create101 18 часов назад

Ryan, do the right thing!

@661fish4 4 дня назад

I have a PSA horror story. They don't stand behind their product.

@dalesheets2383 День назад

PSA screw up... pay the man his money...

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

Sue them into oblivion.

@Alaskaicebreakers 26 дней назад

It’s honestly too bad the company is going so far down hill. We need to stand up as collectors and keep raising this awareness.

@mikescorpio13 5 дней назад

well the over demand for grading is in large part responsible for the degradation of quality grading.The number of almost common cards sent to PSA by the new gen of flippers is clogging the process.Flippers are to blame for the lack of employee or the lack of experienced employee in the grading business. And of course the more people are getting involved,the more chances you get some bad apples in the mix scamming their way through the hobby.

@insidetheparksportcards1745 4 дня назад

Funny that they can grade an autograph but can't tell if it is fake, amazing!

@Tadick994 3 дня назад

Oh good god i just sent a single autographed card to psa a few days ago, i got it personally signed by the voice actor my self who ive waited half my life to meet, the card is priceless to me...wish me luck i guess...i hope im one of the lucky one's

@gregmillard1012 3 дня назад

It sounds like PSA has a new cocky autograph person who thinks he knows everything and maybe doesn't, I would send I t to JSA when you get it back and maybe it is a good autograph. STAY AWAY FROM PSA until they get there crap together.

@Nogame7_Cards 3 дня назад

Hate to hear this. Terrible story. I actually didnt know they could confiscate a card that they deemed fraudulent. Glad you are helping here and pushing back, or they would do NOTHING!

@SmokinSportsCards День назад

PSA needs to reimburse him the value of the card after it is graded plus the shipping charges and fees and everything else

@michaeldenzer6024 2 дня назад

Psa damaged a very expensive card of mine! I have proof. And am contacting them concerning this!!!!

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

Good luck, haha.

@michaeldenzer6024 День назад

@@markstein1916 like they care! Plus downgraded my sgc crossovers

@scottblythe7543 10 часов назад

Same thing here! I think the only way to make them fix it is a class action lawsuit! I've seen plenty of collector's that has had some kind of problem with psa!!!

@TheRbruin10 3 дня назад

As a beginner collector myself, I really stay away from pre 80s cards. That can be really risky.

@Lokahi-fo-life 4 дня назад

I’m torn with the seller being responsible. At the time of the sale he didn’t know, but he knew later. I think I would feel bad and try and make some restitution. PSA should step up and accept responsibility for their mistakes.

@gametimegallery7661 28 дней назад

Nat has said in interviews that the authentication/grading prices scale based on declared value is to account for insurance on the submitted cards. Seems that they are cheerypicking where and how much they want to pay out in insurance. That’s not right.

@SportCardMadness 28 дней назад

They can’t pick a random year like that it’s unacceptable

@Kybone День назад

Umm what?

@Finessegawdhou 3 дня назад

Sucks but it’s not the guy who sold it to him problem, if he didn’t know & was passed by psa…it is 100% on psa

@crowe668 3 дня назад

Ole Frank looks just like Magnum PI..... shirt and all...

@chriscurry3383 4 дня назад

My biggest problem with grading is that it is all up to interpretation and personal judgement, sort of like judging gymnastics in the Olympics. One guys 10 is another guys 8. I wouldn’t say I would never buy a PSA slab because I have. In that transaction I have the control in determining if I shell out for a 7, 8, 9, or in an alternate universe a 10. But if I submit cards from my collection I can’t be guaranteed that the process is streamlined amongst their grading team. Nor can I be assured that they’re even competent to begin with, Frank’s incident as the ultimate example. I don’t give a damn how much you wanna change your slabs, or how much turnover you have in graders, something comes back through that door to be reslabbed, it leaves with the same grades and authentications.

@michaelvoyer3844 4 дня назад

This is absolutely nuts! I feel awful for Frank. Great video, thank you both for sharing.

@Lokahi-fo-life 4 дня назад

Not the video I wanted to see after I sent 9 vintage autos to PSA in 3 weeks ago. I know one of the ones I sent in is questionable.

@sportscardrippingteacher 27 дней назад

I saw you on Zach’s channel earlier today. Thanks for sharing!

@SportCardMadness 27 дней назад

Sure thing!

@scottparrish2422 3 дня назад

PSA should reimburse frank the money he bought the card for. He bought it because of the PSA slab.

@justinkittleson3295 2 дня назад

If they grade a million cards a month I think they can afford it…

@user-es6gq2gp3j 3 дня назад

well grading or authentic is just an opinion such a scam! my friend used them, and they tried to put that same crap, never got his photos back that were missing, and he had to show an invoice what he paid for it, and they paid it out took a long time for to get the money. plus, for the guy weather he knew or didn't it still fall on P.S.A. doesn't make that person any better to rip off someone.

@joshpitts25 5 дней назад

Grading is overrated, and corrupted. Expensive and I have no need to grade my PC. This is a sad story and hurts the cardboard market. You cannot trust even the highest regarded companies. Sad......... nuff said

@ricklee4884 2 дня назад

I agree that's why I buy raw if you know what to look for when it comes to fake and real. All you have to do is a little research and there is alot of people that can show you how to spot fakes and what to look for. PSA cards are way over valued in most cases.

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

COMPLETELY agree!

@scottparrish2422 3 дня назад

If PSA grades a card and you undervalue it they charge you the fee based on what the value is if it gets a good grade. Such bullshit

@SylvainMarveaux9 3 дня назад

Yar and then the cards drop down 200% a few weeks later, so you're effectively losing money.

@derekgraziano9499 4 дня назад

Digital grading is the most consistent grading there is why are we not all using digital grading forget leaving it up to humans to inconsistent and to many mistakes

@justinkittleson3295 2 дня назад

Completely agree. But then people would somehow program the AI to benefit themselves. Cards are fun…not an investment. Even the fun is fading…

@chrisescobar2047 25 минут назад

As a beginner card collector, I am glad I seen this video bc i was about to stsrt sending my cards to PSA for grading/etc. Any suggestion on what other company I can use for grading/ labeling??

@SportCardMadness 13 минут назад

@@chrisescobar2047 PSA has the most value right now so if you are flipping go ahead and use them. If you are collecting long term test some others like TAG and Beckett. 💯 JSA for autographed cards

@ambassador724 2 дня назад

they don't 'sometimes grade they autograph' - they acknowledge it's authentic by "authentication."

@Colise709 2 дня назад

Yes. I would like to know who is passing bad autographs. Thanks.

@michaeldenzer6024 2 дня назад

Had 1 experience with psa and so far it's terrible.....

@lightseek88 День назад

same. actually the first 3 experiences with PSA have been horrible, but when i got my cj stroud downtown back in a psa 10 it made up for all that before.

@user-rh7sq9je6v 2 дня назад

We determine what grading company is best by what we buy. Ask bud light and tractor supply about the power of the consumer. As pointed out below. PSA will change when we stop inflating the value of their cards by over paying and when we stop sending them millions of cards per month. TAG grading is the best but collectors act like a cult and follow the herd over the cliff refusing to change. AI grading is long overdue and TAG is the first to bring it. Watch TAG videos. People have tried to submit the same card twice after breaking it out and the AI caught it had already graded that card! Much better than a 20 something kid who drank and partied too much the night before handing out all 10's at PSA or the employee who lost their girlfriend last night giving all 8's. PSA has too much power with no transparency. And we the collector have given them that power.

@cineM4RL 4 дня назад

ugh, makes me sick to my stomach that I just sent 11 1950s & 60s auto cards to them to crossover from psa/dna auth to dual graded… 🤞🤞🤞

@SportCardMadness 4 дня назад

Praying for you!

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

People need to stop feeding them “money for nothing”!

@breakingmania8927 День назад

I’m confused. So he bought it after it was authenticated in 2023 but they put it in a old holder? Just curious why it wasn’t in a new holder already and why he had to send it in the first place. Enjoyed the video

@jonholzworth4463 День назад

I design and build some of the forensic spectral equipment used for authentication. My devices are at Quantico with the FBI. They are in jails and forensic labs all over the country. I personally feel PSA and other authenticating entities vastly overstate their abilities. I've been around some of the worlds best forgery experts, and they don't have the confidence to guarantee anything. The verbage is always "very probable" or "highly unlikely." The only times they are certain is when they find two different inks or materials that didn't exist when the forgery was supposedly made.

@lightseek88 День назад

if you contacted TAG grading I bet they would love to work with you in introducing some of your spectral equipment into one of those self service grading kiosk they are supposedly working on. Would you be confident in building something that could help the hobby?

@user-lx4kx9rs1x День назад

good advice common sense thank you

@zi1352 4 дня назад

You can't blame the guy who sold you the card 😂 When he sold you it in a authetic PSA holder

@SportCardMadness 4 дня назад

True, but would you feel the same way if he knew one month later for certain it was a counterfeit and wanted to do future business with Frank? Probably in his interest to make it right … or at least care a little.

@zi1352 4 дня назад

@SportCardMadness When it comes to making it right in this particular instance, he'll no PSA should make it right it was their mistake. Now, when it comes to him knowingly selling fake cards, I totally agree with you that he should refund the full amount, and his face should be posted all over social media so no one is affected by this scum! As of recently, PSA has been accused of a PSA machine partnership with scammers. They claim to be decertifying altered cards, which they are again cherry-picking cases when some instagraming can point out so many altered cards, among other things most probably they ultimately need to be regulated at this point or boycotted.

@bryanrasmussen6840 3 дня назад

PSA has always been a scam but, 2 things. This guy thinks he can dictate the value and price of a card that nobody else is looking for. He paid how much for it? He's just stupid. How desperate can you be for a worthless collection.

@0_44_4 4 дня назад

Fxck PSA! PieceaShytAuthentication TAG grading is the way to go. They need to step up their game to handle more cards and more type of cards and years.

@SportCardMadness 4 дня назад

If they add autographs it would be awesome

@0_44_4 4 дня назад

@@SportCardMadness yeah this is what I'm saying they need to step their game up

@mjcollector1million 25 дней назад

Terrible that this happened. Hopefully there’s a better outcome. I think PSA deserves criticism, but I don’t think you did it accurately. You should have reiterated that the guarantee does not cover autographs. That’s a big point that you didn’t touch on enough. Secondly, obviously they’re screwing him on valuation, but you should provide evidence for a better valuation. It’s an extremely rare card/auto so I don’t think they’re “cherry picking”, there are probably no sales. You said cherry picking a hundred times

@SportCardMadness 25 дней назад

Agreed but PSA needs to be better about communicating the lack of applicability of the guarantee to autographs. Me and just about every collector I spoke with truly had no idea. He provided a sales receipt but that isn’t sufficient evidence as there are no public / recent sales; though they can certainly look at other rare autos of obscure players in this set and quickly realize $10 is asinine. Further, they have access to the registry. Reach out to owners of this card and take a dollar cost avg of the sales price. There are about 700 different ways they could have gone with this that would have been more productive and accurate.

@mjcollector1million 25 дней назад

@@SportCardMadness that’s my point, PSA doesn’t communicate it, so for your viewers, you should have drove home that point about guarantee not covering autographs. Great video though

@SportCardMadness 25 дней назад

@@mjcollector1million Thanks … I agree I’ll do more videos around this and help get the word out.

@FatherSonVintageCards-Comics 28 дней назад

Terrible. Great episode. Sending DM

@pikepoke 21 день назад

the set registry really is an incredible program. keeping track of what is out there, how rare your set is, and working to improve and being able to judge it against others is really valuable. the majority of the best cards in existence are locked up in registry sets.

@TheHobbyist_76 28 дней назад

Came over from Zachs channel.

@LawrenceFZIII 26 дней назад

Thank you

@Kybone День назад

Put up a photo of the card...

@greezyzgurage День назад

Who do you recommend to use for grading, if not PSA?

@SportCardMadness День назад

@@greezyzgurage JSA when they slab autos. Short term PSA has the most value but you can use BECKETT and Tag as well.

@georgeramos3632 27 дней назад

I would sue PSA …

@anthonymcdonald3167 28 дней назад

They better be watching PSA I'm old like this guy I just started grading my cards now I'm thinking twice tighten up PSA Make it right

@markstein1916 2 дня назад

Avoid PSA at all costs! If you MUST grade them, go with SGC.

@kempercor 27 дней назад

That’s asinine

@SmokinSportsCards День назад

Another reason why not to use PSA and just go with SGC they are a way better company even though PSA bought SGC SGC is still the way to go. I don’t care what anyone says because PSA is only good if you get a other than that, people value a PSA nine as a raw card.

@MrSQRL-1 День назад

PSA is 🗑. Once the hobby wakes up to what TAG grading is doing, there will be a new King crowned 👑.

@mikerichey3633 28 дней назад

This is horrible! I can't believe they did that to him. What would you do with a 1983 Dominique Wilkins XRC that I got signed in person at the ATL National in '99?

@SportCardMadness 28 дней назад

If you want it slabbed send to Beckett if you just want a cert do JSA. Or wait 6-12 months and use PSA

@kempercor 27 дней назад

@@SportCardMadness are you confident that things will improve in a year?

@SportCardMadness 27 дней назад

@@kempercor No …

@LawrenceFZIII 26 дней назад

I’ve had at least 5 cards get rejected by PSA that I was holding the card when it was signed

@ralphd4491 25 дней назад

Why wait 6 to 12 months

@InTheZone85 11 часов назад

Seller of this card has no responsibility, nothing he did was wrong. If he sold a card he thought was real and authenticated there is no way he shares responsibility for psa being bipolar.

@SportCardMadness 11 часов назад

@@InTheZone85 I agree, but one month later he knew it was counterfeit and doesn’t care + continues to sell known counterfeits.

@InTheZone85 11 часов назад

@@SportCardMadness did he find out from this incident or did he found out after he sold it and prior to this buyer informing him of psas wrongdoing? And how would you know he's selling and continuing to sell known counterfeits?

@SportCardMadness 11 часов назад

@@InTheZone85 He found out separately from this incident. A group of vintage autograph collectors discovered the counterfeiter and one of them tipped off PSA. All good but if it was me I would feel bad selling garbage esp if this guy wants to do future biz w Frank (which he does)

@SportCardMadness 11 часов назад

@@InTheZone85 I have also been approached by several people in the middle of deals with him. They have shown me the cards and they are from the counterfeiter. He bought a massive stash and overzealously polluted the market w raw cards. Now he’s backed off a little but continues to sell through multiple eBay handles and identities.

@InTheZone85 10 часов назад

@@SportCardMadness that's good to know but it still raises the question of how do they know he's selling counterfeit, what proof there is. Right now it's he said she said. From my view we don't know if the seller knew prior. We don't know if the seller took the risk to get them authenticated. We don't know if the seller bought them from someone else. To me this should be a lawsuit between psas customers against PSA and not a buyer against a PSA customer if what you're saying is valid.

@joshrunge2238 2 дня назад

Who selling fakes?

@SportCardMadness 2 дня назад

Hit me up on IG @BostonCardHunter

@michaeldenzer6024 2 дня назад

This aint no planet. Its a flat earth!

@true_rcs 2 дня назад

If Nat or Ryan gets ahold of this they will make it right I believe. Frank is a well known, respected hobbyist.

@scottblythe7543 10 часов назад

Psa is trash sent them a mahomes out of 75. Nothing wrong with it but got a 9 cause it looks like they ding the front of it somehow. Psa is garbage

@EmmAyeVee День назад

So he extremely underinsured the card to save himself a couple bucks. That's PSAs fault?

@SportCardMadness День назад

@@EmmAyeVee It’s their fault for not honoring the insured amount of $2500 (whether under or not). The $10 first offer seems a bit insulting given that insurance level he paid for right?

@EmmAyeVee 18 часов назад

@SportCardMadness I completely agree with that. PSA should have, at the very least, honored the coverage amount that he paid for. But I still feel that he underinsured himself by only paying the $25 insurance to save himself such a small amount of money for a card that cost over $5k. Not a smart move that cost the owner of the card big time and a complete scumbag move on part of PSA for copping out on their insurance coverage.

@thewatchfuleye8401 2 часа назад

I understand this might have been initially been FUBAR by PSA authentication. But they have offered him a refund and Credit. To be sure, the part I dont get is what is this guy after exactly? I mean who is Art Harris anyway and what does this guy think its worth? Its almost delusional as the people who think that there cards are still worth 2020 prices. I would take the credit and move on, he is wasting his own time.

@SportCardMadness Час назад

The values seem crazy because you aren't a high end vintage autograph set collector and the sales are almost always private for the rarer cards (Art Harris is the 2nd hardest in that set). I have the signed 1986 Fleer set autographed and slabbed and am one away from the signed 1969 NBA Topps set. I would have no problem paying $5K+ for a PSA Slabbed Art Harris card (I personally got a deal at $2500 for mine bc it was raw) and could name 20 other high end set guys instantly right now that would do the same. This isn't a 2020 thing - the value of these signed vintage cards have gone up continuously with no dip ... think of them as bonds vs. stocks. To offer $10 is one of the most monumentally insane things I've ever heard in all my years of collecting. I connected with Ryan and was able to get him $2500.

@thewatchfuleye8401 Час назад

@@SportCardMadness I am glad it worked out for him. In the end, you really helped him out. Regardless of any difference in opinion -- Keep up the good.