This is one of strongest videos I have seen. He must be regretting the way he dealt with team. Success or big position doesn't just suit everyone, they might just mess it up and looks like he just messed up. It's high time people must know that take care of the employees and they will take care of the project/ organisation. No currency is bigger than respect/mental health. More power to you girl and always remember. Always remember : " kahin pohanchne k liye kahin se nikalna bahut zaruri hai. " And trust me you are reaching heights. ❤️🥳
Didi In IT you will get such people sometime or other wherever you go.If you want to have little self respect then join some product company,there also you might meet such people but chances bit less.Also one suggestion dont upload such stuff later it might spoil your career as other employers might be worried about your profile.Learn some technology and join some product company if you want to work in IT.Just a suggestion.You seem to be upright person which is very less these days ,best of luck for your career.
@@arinbose6366 she did great job by speaking what she gone through..if we don't speak about exploitation happening with us than employers will behave like this again n again n more stress and suicide cases will arise because of stress, exploitation and harassment happening in big IT companies..
same exp with me.. Some managers think that they are god.. Infact when you leave the company,you realize that they are failure.. and they are putting there frustrations on there juniors.
Not just Infosys ,its the story of almost all the mass recruiters, TCS,Infosys,Cognizant,Wipro and anything you remember, literally left a toxic place and landed amazing job with a product based company which actually treats humans like humans
Thank you for sharing this video sister! It's been 3 years in TCS. Your story is exactly what I have came through. I think it resembles with 80% of IT people. Anyhow you took a great decision and finally going after your dreams like a free bird. Congratulations and all the best! I am also going in a same way. Resigned from TCS before one week ago. Going after my dreams.
This is happening in all IT companies. The problem in India is all Managers, Sr. Managers and above are not trained well on "differences between Leaders vs Managers".
It's all in culture and the way you get raised in your family...it is something very hard to inculcate in a human.....its all about values .....being an ex- Infosys employee....there is very high culture compared to other companies in Infosys.... And in life you have to deal with situations....that's what life is..
This is more of an Indian cultural issue where people take great pride in behaving like a zamindar oppressing their juniors. Unfortunately most Indian managers take this crappy culture with them even on foreign lands. There could be exceptions and few nice managers here and there though and I don’t disagree with that.
I work in mindtree. I joined a project in March, where we had a manager and program director(Indian) who gave us a short term project that need to be completed in 2 months. The way they used to force to complete stuffs w.o giving proper KT was hell. If my mic has issue during client call it's my fault it seems. 24/7 unnecessary meetings then wen do we work? They wer expecting us to complete a task without even giving anything properly. I felt so pressurized. But thankfully covid saved me from that project. When i was back to ofc they gave my profile to another team in same project wer i started working for client directly. Trust me those leads r d sweetest. If my mic is having issues, they apologise to me literally, and if v r not able to complete a task, they help us a lot n even provide more time. The way they handle evrything is awesome. Never ever saw them rude. These Indian managers n leads r so rude n abusive. Hope they learn from them n these things change.
I have worked with western people, believe me western working culture is best very best and Indian working culture is Shit and toxic in future which leads to health issues only.
TL, almost a decade with the same firm. Each and every statement you have told, has come straight from your heart. Org policies, lack of leaders and full of unfit managers - this is what is sinking the firm. Have been juggling around to take a decision - you have made it clear. Thanks for this ☺️ All the very best for you digital marketing career. Kudos to you, as you have chosen what makes you happy instead of chasing money ! Cheers.
I've worked for Infosys for 5 years & left for similiar reasons. I had no support during the times I had to make the decision but I knew it was the right thing to do. That happiness on your face reminds me of April 2019. YOU GO GIRL 🔥 ACHE DIN ARE COMING
Infosys was my first company as well. Can completely relate to what you said. Those who join as freshers and complete say 3-4 years are too underpaid for the work they are doing. The managers/leads who do not respect their juniors and their hard work do not deserve good resources.
@@Rmm1236 on site is a trap to make them ensnared. Besides, soon IT sector will undergo a vital transformation, which may involve destruction of old roles
Wow. Though I was in BPO of Infy, I can surely relate to most of the things after spending 10 longs years of my Jawani over there. Lucky you that you took efforts and moved to a career path of your interest. Keep inspiring others girl! All the best!!
@@aj9706 Agree...but at the same time it was also best time I spent with friends at Infy...did lot of things of my interest, learnt many new things...couldn't learn 'Chanakyagiri' though which is prominently seen in their management :) For bachelors especially before recession, Infy was heaven...and suddenly recession opened Infy's eyes that hey, we are giving lot of perks and facilities to our employees. Let's stop/modify them. And then heaven turned into hell.
Left Infy, left on-site. I believe in Infy onsite opportunity comes as soon as you put you down papers. 100% of the people I've met onsite followed this strategy. And it's a good, sure shot technique. Management in support project in service industry is going to be more or less same.
Hahah true 🙈 for me though i already got onsite last year but couldn’t travel because of covid. Thankfully i realised this year that i cant deal with the management 🙈
Very brave of you to speak this out !!! I can totally understand what you would have gone through ... I have been through a similar worst management during one of my projects in Cognizant & it did affect my mental health badly , luckily got another offer soon & I resigned immediately !!!! The new organization is very supportive & provides for growth in a very nice way !!! So now I can say not all IT companies are bad ,and a lot depends on your immediate manager . But very strongly agree with the point that people management is a skill that not all possess & only people with good people management skills should be made managers so that they can empower people & not break them .
u got in product based company??? shifting from service to product comp is incredibly difficult considering relevant Software development experience mismatch.
During my first job after graduation, I had this deep sense of realization that a good salary doesn't necessarily mean a happy and satisfying job. It is much more than that. The people one works with and works for are a major attribute of a happy and satisfying job.
I also worked In Infosys till 2020, this girl spoke my heart out... Thank god I left it.. No wonder Infy and other IT are suffering because of their own behaviour
How can we be so similarly thinking. I have been working for Infosys from past 3.5 years. This is the same thoughts I have. "Iss cheez ko sirf 5min lagta hai, tell me what do you do for rest of the say" bhai itna hai toh khud karle 5 minute me.. release me😂 you are on point
I worked in a start up for almost 5.3 years in a Fintech Crowdfunding Company in India. And I left them this July month end. I remember there was a time when I was the only one working and handling the tech single handedly. But all of that efforts doesn't even bother the IT companies when they see you as a resource not as an employee. I can relate to the experience which you had to face and I know how you feel when you work for any company for so long. Everyone's replaceable and that's the truth. Build yourself while building anyone's company.
I'm just started working in IT company for just 2 months but I can relate everything you say...You did great thing!..👏👏👏🔥Hope you become a role model soon🔥
You have spoken your heart out. And I have related to every word you said. Especially the bit about client and about the daily standup calls where you're always pointed out for really unnecessary things. This is very brave of you. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. :)
Your optimism is infectious. In my case the after I joined,morethan the work or heckling from superiors ,the realization that this is cyclic,every day there is an anxiety of what new challenge will come my way is what depresses me.
Exactly. Every single day when I get up I feel anxiety Monday to Friday. I guess that's mostly because we don't like the particular job and time is very precious. Nowadays there are people who are not graduates n still earning so high in various fields due to awareness and people with privilege are immigrating to western countries for better life.
Kudos to you for making the decision. There is more to life than going through this stress. You will find a better opportunity !!!! Thanks for sharing! 👍👍👍👌
Despite of all shitty experiences, u covered ur story with a sweet smile talks lot about your personality! Indeed, every person has best fit place in this world!
I can relate to it. Leaving a job that doesn’t give you happiness and peace anymore is one of the bravest things you could do. All the best love . I just know that you’re going to do bigger things in life that will make you happy. Good luck ♥️
I left my job at TCS and infact left the software industry..my wife also had to quit as we both thought of returning back to our native for peaceful life... Now I have lot of time for family and children
You’ve spilled all the secrets. Saw many new people commented that they are going to join. It’s a genuine experience what she shared but the thing is you need not to be loyal to your company if it’s not benefiting you. And the hard truth is that you’ll going to have same experience everywhere. So please always lookout for yourself and jump on time, irrespective of their counter offers.
Nevermind , one of my acquaintance who is a Joshi too worked in infosys for about 6 years . She wrote something like " infosys treats you like furniture if you stay long ... " but I think because of being in Infosys she went to Microsoft and now she is in Google doing some People management role.
To be fair , I'd never prefer to join service sector companies like TCS , Infy, Cognizant , etc because they have no growth whatsoever. Its better to work for a startup & although working for a startup is insanely stressful , you get a lot of knowledge & there is insane growth. Add to that the fact that Google , Microsoft & other product companies prefer startup peeps over service sector peeps , it just becomes the cherry on top.
@@tech_report_0868 it's super hard to get into product companies offcampus specially for freshers without relevant experience and startups want people with prior hands on experience or industry experience. So only left is service companies???
@@aj9706 Who said that startups want people with prior experience. If you have completed enough projects , then you can join a startup. Yes , product companies are difficult out of college but if you know your DSA + have made projects , then that shouldn't be a problem. Service companies legit have no growth & will stagnate a person.
I have worked in a startup. The growth is okay but there is too much work pressure. No work-life balance. I have worked from 9 am to 11 pm daily. That's why I don't prefer startups. I mean, we have a life other than the job we're doing. 🤷
@@ksuman1763 Well that depends , some people for example are passionate about coding , they have no issue with working 9-11 (if you take a job as a job & do it only for the sake of completing it , then start up might not be the place for you). The work pressure is also one of the reasons why product companies prioritise hiring startup employees above service company chaps. Also , as far as growth is considered , I think there are startups that are paying hefty amounts & the chances of a guy ending up as CTO ( pays extremely well) is way higher in startups.
@@madhuripawar8589 getting into amazon is so difficult considering the amount of application/resumes they receive. Even with good programming skills are not able to get good job.
Unlike you I started my career in Cognizant in a Dev team and there were times when we were called on almost all Saturdays. All we got as compensation was a plate of Chicken Biryani 😆 as comp offs were not an option. The promotions were sluggish and in 4.5 years of working in CTS I saw a meager salary increment. I'm glad that I am out of that organisation. I am happy for you too as you must be feeling relieved.
@@enriqueheredia5794 I am working as a developer in a reputed product based organization and the working condition is very good here. I am happy that I left CTS.
You did a fantastic thing by leaving a place where you dont belong to. One should be respected and encouraged for his/her work. So well done. I got real inspiration.
You are one brave girl. Surely there have been several instances, the management and the organization should consider their employees as their members.
December 2017 batch xD I had a very amazing journey in Infosys. Was part of the AI unit but eventually wanted to pursue blogging but on-site opportunity kept me waiting as well :p Initiated and COVID happened!:p decided to leave the job last year and pursue blogging full time xD
I feel you. last year during lockdown , I too left my company without having an offer in hand. it was hell lot of bullshit . they make you so stressed that it feel like they want us to put papar. and guess wat , even I started RU-vid , but due to family and especially as a boy , i joined other it company again. i think you did the right think. 4 din ka zindagi hai.. 4 paisa kam kamaye but khush rhe.. also Content creation is best for those who are interested. Good luck.
Slowly and gradually we all figure out what is best for us! You have worked hard and will do wonders in your life. So happy and Congratulations Madhulika 👏💓 All the best for your new journey and experience ❤
@@mrinalchandra unfortunately I entered application testing field never enjoyed it except in one or two project.. Neither did I want to keep learning all the time to update my skills.. So after 9 years of circus finally left IT job returned back to my native..
I can relate to every bit of what u r saying.. i went through exactly the same situation in HP,the only difference is, i had good time untill i was onsite ..i loved my work and my team.. to i was the only one who had worked offshore+onsite,who had good understanding of the proj right from beginning.. every decision i made had good support from everyone untill i decided to get back to India for my personal reason n then everything changed drastically.. they treated me lik nothing, right infront of me they started saying anyone given KT for few hrs can do my work efficiently.. there was a major safety threat when i left that country, none from my team was bothered to know whether I reached safe to India but everyone was worried abt the person who was my replacement at onsite.. back in India TL started to treat me lik his Labour.. there was rule made where every person while logging off should take permission from the TL, either by ping,mail or call.. that was it,i decided to leave.. and m happy i did it..🤘
I think it's not about managerial aptitude but a problem of professional aptitude when someone behaves badly. In today's dynamic time technical skills and some resource management skills are required to do the job..
Very well said, I was part of infosys and then of IBM but honestly, its such a trash these companies are, add to the toxic environment created. I left my job after my manager threatened every now and then to take me to HR just because I wanted to get release from the project. I finally quit and never thought I would become entrepreneur and businessman and thank god I just quit, and destiny chose me to become freelance consultant. Imagine leaving a 10 years job only to work for meagre earnings of 10-15K per month and also managing the family and from there to scale up the business. Today I have clients across Europe and I am my own boss not a job seeking despo. ))
You have clearly called out issues which many people have in IT not specific to one company but unable to express. There is other side of it that we should talk with person or above that person in management and inform before deciding to quit .sometime the manager is not aware of issues that his style is impacting others so we should have open discussion to resolve conflict.
I think it should be other way around managers should keep on checking on there behaviour through teams responding to his actions...whether are happy and comfortable atleast to talk to him or her....I think this a basic human psychology that manager should learn or understand I don't know what they learn in management studies...just to be boss or what 😅
No offense to anyone, However I was in Infosys for 3 years and they were my best years. I think your experience depends from project to project. I had to unwantedly leave Infosys for higher package 🙂
@@Memes-mf7vb You can't do anything about that actually...What you can do is...you accept any offer letter....from any company...no matter how small it is and put resignation. You will get many calls in your last month, if you update notice period details in Naukari portal. I just got 16 LPA offer from small company and now in last month got 22 LPA from a good company at experience of 8.5 years. 🙂
Omg I can relate to every single word about support project . I had to leave the company to get away from those people as it was costing me my mental health ( they will never release you) . People there don’t really care about you . I don’t know which project your talking about but seems like its my project🤣🤣
I passed out in 2020 and got Infosys 3.6LPA offer... initially I was very happy ki Banglore jaane ko milega...Vha ki training ke vlogs dekhe,kaafi aacha lgga...pr Due to Covid our joining come on December 2020...and this is time jha mene decision lia ki 3.6LPA se bdiaa 1 saal GATE ki prepration krke bdiaa IIT Join kro...long term mai beneficial hai...thats why I didn't accept Offer Letter...now GATE 2022 ki prepration mai lgga hu Jai Shree Ram 💓
thanks for sharing your experience it is hard to get a new company after 3,4 years but I really appreciate the way you work on yourself and the way you work on your own your belief system that is abnormal for you and not abnormal for normal ppl but you did it you rock it and the world is yours 🙏👍
There are no guarantees that your next company or manager would not be the same ..hence prudent to study..conflict management...interpersonal relationships...and group dynamics...how to deal with difficult people is also a good book...
As long as you're happy with the decision you took, I don't think anyone's opinions matter. All the best for whatever you decide to do in future. Btw, you've great speaking skills.
Thankyou Madhulika for sharing the reality inside Infosys. I have been in IT Software development in dotnet technologies for more than 20 years and now I realized the most worst decision I took is by taking the IT Development as my carrier. I was atleast lucky to develop software from scratch but now in the recent past for around 10 to 15 yrs, all softwares were already built and we technical guys are left with a job like a call center and just fixing issues including software and database performance like hell. Once you get more experience I have been forced to manage team also along with full productivity of myself and which overburdens me a lot. My advise is that youngstars should never go for development more than 5 years, they should switch to a different line like QA or so other branch of IT but never get into this development for long.
OMG it's so relatable. I am working in Fashor and here we're questioned soo much about hours of work. My manager asks everyone's like " tumhara kaam sirf 4-5 hours ka hai, what do you do with the other hours at work" , "I can hire freshers to do your work, why pay you so much" . No respect at all. Am glad you came out and spoke up
I can really well understand and relate your mental pressure. Taking self decisions in life are tough but we live. Not die with a toxic environment. I believe it's not the company with whom we are working,,,, it's ultimately the Manager under which we are working... Best thing u did by kicking off that 5min, 10min ka task h yeh toh. Me at that time when u said: Abey dhakkan aakey khud kerley.
Ghatiya leave policy hai Infy ki. 20 leaves milti hai. Aur woh bhi aapka haq nahin hai request karni padti hai. Agar product based company ko dekho to woh 36 tak PTO dete hain. Aur Contractors, client se zyada kaam karte hain.
Sis.. You did the best thing. I can feel your mind and heart is so light now. Yes there are crappy managers some are Angels and most of the managers micro manage and take advantage of the people under them. Hands down managers are few out there. Its not infosys' fault. I would not blame any companies. Its your bad luck you got aligned under such crappy managers. Everyone cannot be managers. Rather than blaming infosys, you should put a video revealing the person name and the linkedin of that person. That will ravish his/her happiness. Not sure if you heard me, but if you do then expose that person screw the happiness / peace of mind. That person is the reason you left a huge organization. sorry for all the stress. We feel you. chill out. But remember wherever you go, not just JOB, even in personal life, there are going to be people . Did you make your point on the Exit interview? Just a piece of advise when you go into any job never say you left because some one stressed you out. The other company will think you do not have will power. Next time, Face the Bull (crappy managers)
Awweieeee 🥰 I guessed it right 😍 Soo much happy for you .. You did the right thing... Things fall in place when they are meant to ♥️ Keep growing ..Love from this side😘
You have done the perfect thing for yourself as well as for the company . Every child should be given time after 12th to realize what they love and want to do in life and explore , Then you and many people out there would have never done engineering at first place and never joined IT and you would have been a PR or influence just after 12th. There is a difference between doing what makes you happy and you are Interested and doing what you are given and you have to do just because everyone else is doing and you need money. My friend is in Infosys too he is a cloud native developer and at 16 Lpa in 2 years at WFH only. Happy for you finally you are doing what you are made for and good at. Many humans dont understand that doing a 5 minute task takes 25 minutes for preparation to get that task done that was the problem with you TL and manager.
All the best Madhulika, it's misfortune of companies who loose good employees. The complete era changed now from waterfall to Scrum, from "Bossing" to servent leadership. Happy for you, that you listened your heart and doing what you enjoy.... :)
its never about company..its always about team and manager , your life will be either heaven or hell no matter which company you join for IT ..secondly , always love your work and not the company !!!
No one hates their work, but if they're consistantly beaten up without a freakin reason and don't get the componsation for their hard work, it's better to ditch it.
I am an ex-infoscion. It's totally relatable . You must have been in CISRUN unit where all support projects are there. Luckily I got away ,thanks to the HR lady. But still I miss the training days at Mysore. Those days were awsome.
It is not just with the Infy, this is the problem with most of our people...they want to show great onsite playing the politics...people dont learn the culture of onsite people...Management just want to fetch money killing our people like anything...but dont earn the respect....i had the same treatment so can relate you completely....You are right Respect is More important than money...If you are talented you will get more good positions..All the Best..!!
Left infy 2 days back and its so satisfying to see this video..as most of the people faced same issue as yours...Hopefully they will bring more processes for employee well being...
My first interview was with Infosys, they came back 5 months later saying that I have been selected. ( 3.2 LPA package in 2018) Till that time I had already already been frustrated waiting for few months, and I had joined another company @ twice salary... I also knew about the bad reputation so when they called me after 5 months, I said "sorry, Not interested" 😊 felt like thug life..
I guess I could also relate with your story much because after working for 4 years in IBM at Bengaluru location, I was also in the same kind of position as you were. Literally, at that time I could find no way out. I could feel that pressure that you faced & finally one day I resigned. I just want to wish you All the very Best !!!! Miss Joshi.. Cheers!!!
Thats correct. This happening in all service sectors. Thats why i left my job in 2018 and started my own business. And now m Earning more money than i was getting in salary.
Remember guys no job is worth more than your inner peace and mental health. For company we can be easily replaceable with someone else. So take care of yourself 🤗
My wife works in Cognizant, there is not a single day where she does not complain about her manager. Look like all managers in CTS, Infosys and TCS are bullies and do not have the leadership skills. It has always been the case for a long time but became more visible to everyone in recent times. More people like Madhu are opening up, Kudos to her.
I have worked for 3 bpo. The managers vp they are all bullies. They use internet for surfing of amazon flipkart and they want to us to sit in one place and do hard labour work. One hour break. Full toxic. Previously it was East India Company. Now it is IT and bpo. We need to have a good employee grievance centre in INDIA. Need to make them accountable for this Toxic management culture.
This is again myth, it was Vishal Sikka who stopped some non sense rules made and defended by NRN like wearing Tie. None including NRN doesnt read exit forms.
As as past Infosicon , i can relate this each and every issue .. My tenure was just 1 year and I was unfortunate victim of ""over management "" due to which I was not able to work with free hand and mind. The leadership was terribly weak so as customer (Indian counterpart) which was more of politics. I'm now working for a product startup and is 4 years now and going great.
Sir I got selected in Infosys as a System Engineer. I gave test and interview just casually. I am from Mechanical Stream, Currently preparing for Banking Exams. I have cleared many prelims exams but unable to clear mains exam by only 10 to 12 marks. I know if I study for this year. I will definitely clear mains exam too..What should I do? Should I join Infosys or not? I am in confusion right now.
I have faced all this during my tenure at Wipro but happily working at Cisco with 5x salary now ..only suggestion never take seriously whatever those idiot manager says ..just keep working on ur skills and just move on
The fact is, this is true for every company and it's not about company it's about few people. Name any one company where this situation employees couldn't have faced it. We need to talk about it if we think it can be solved and if not just move on. End of the day, what we want, what will make me happy is important and move towards that. Toxic people exist in every level in an organisation. I worked in 3 different organisations and based on my experience Infosys is the best.
@@pratik6342 You guys cry like babies, I don't know how you guys survive a minute if you guys by chance got job in banking sector. Sorry to say, I am hearing literally only complains and excuses that's it. It's like TCS, WIPRO, INFOSYS, etc guys are only faired wrong by the circle of life. Stop complaining, if you are not happy then also try to give another chance. And if don't, just leave and switch to other companies. Or change sector. Don't cry in youtube. Grow up bro 🙏
Whatever she said 110% true... This happened with most of the IT companies...the mental pressure is immense...no work life balance... choose your path wisely...
It is not the company alone which is responsible for growth. Both employee and employer should grow together. I agree there are projects in such companies where management is a big issue. But based on that you cannot portray about the whole organization which is dealing with more than 5000 projects at once. And based on one person who is not good to you, you cannot judge the whole team. In IT industry, there are no superiors, there are only colleagues. you can always respond back strongly if someone is not good with you. You have an option of switching to other project too. I've worked for 4 projects in the same org. And all my managers are pretty cool. they always made me feel easy. and compensation wise also you can write many internal exams and get promotions with high job security. Just FYI, Infosys is actually one of the best service based company ever.
