Why I'm An Antinatalist 

Why are you an antinatalist? Comment below!

No existence = not having to deal with useless and overcompetitive school system No existence = not having to fight for good colleges, which have less than 5% selection rate No existence = not having to fight for exploitative jobs, and be overworked and underpaid No existence = not having to deal with unemployment No existence = no possibility of meeting with an accident and getting your limb amputated No existence = not having to deal with diseases like asthma and diabetes, which degrade quality of life No existence = not having to see your loved ones struggle with terminal illnesses and die No existence = not having to die a slow and painful death due to cancer, paralysis, etc. *NO EXISTENCE = NO PROBLEMS*

It’s been really lonely to have this opinion. I have people look at me like I am so appalling and call me sick, when I’m coming from a place of compassion.

Man, your points are bulletproof. Antinatalists are the most empathetic and ethical people. They consider the consequences of each of their actions.

And you are absolutely correct in your thoughts. People create a "pink world" in their heads, as a coping mechanism, and don't realize their kid will actually be born in the real world, which is cruel as hell.

Animals have offspring out of instinct, humans have offspring out of selfishness

People don't understand the severity of imposing life. Breeding is an act worse than any other act.

Love this. It's crazy how people buy into having kids because everyone else is doing it. It really makes no sense because you're bringing them into a bad world, and it actually makes things harder on yourself too.

I didn’t become AN until my twin sister mentioned how messed up it is to gamble with the child’s life. We were around 19 years old. We would get into various philosophical discussions from a very young age but it took a little while for us to think about AN. If I’m honest, I didn’t think poorly about procreation prior to this discussion. But I do recall getting very annoyed hearing about children severely suffering and people willfully forcing kids to live in squalor. Didn’t support it. I know now I would feel extremely guilty if I brought a kid here, period.

When I was 8, I told my parents that I’m not having any children when I grow up. They said that I’d regret such a choice. At 56, I’m still waiting for this “regret” to set in.

There's no consent. It's forcing someone into a future they didn't ask for, and also condemning them to sure suffering, which is inevitable.

I'm glad to see more antinatalists making these videos hopefully it spreads more

The argument that I find compelling the most about antinatalism is the risk factor. Every time you create a life, there is a risk that this life would be not worth living. I'm not claiming that every life is not worth living. But I am saying that there is a significant chance that this life that you created will turn out to be not worth living. And this is immoral, especially that no one is asking to be born in the first place. One last comment: by a life that is "not worth living" I mean a life that ends with suicide, or the person wishing he/she was not born in the first place.

im antinatalist because there is already enaugh life suffering on this earth so why create more suffering when you can adopte and save someone from the suffering that they are living in right now

These parents tell their kids to toughen up or tell them to grow thick skin and cannot b bothered with their kids when they are telling them that they hate this life because they are too coward to look their child in the face and apologize for bringing them here for the parent's own benefit/pleasure. Then they act like victims when the children un-alive themselves!!!

People we love the most are the ones who brought us into this joke of existence

I wish more people understood the philosophy and actual MEANING of it instead of using reinterpretations and misconceptions of what antinatalism actually is 😊

"Why did you create me?" Such a simple but powerful question.

Think about it before any of us were conceived/birthed the world was in motion,without us and we were in the state of oblivion we were at peace,at rest then rudely jolting into this world's dark reality only to become killer soldiers whereas we have to fight for everything 😤 even when we die they're funeral expenses which must be paid.

Yes, life really is a senseless Sisyphean nonsense topped with a whole load of suffering. “A coin is examined, and only after careful deliberation, given to a beggar, whereas a child is flung out into the cosmic brutality without hesitation.” - Peter Wessel Zapffe. Enjoyed the interview the other day. Thanks for that.

Title question: My answer: ...because I hate this life.

I've been an antinatalist since I was around 8 years old, but didn't know the term until much later in life! I was always concerned for the environment and aware of over population.

My biggest reason why I'm rocking with AntiNatalist is because I'd just be passing death on alone with pain in suffering and a lot of other risk like you stated within this video

I wish everyone could see this!

I'm an Antinatalist because I am tired of seeing soo much human suffering and pain. I want to prevent that towards my non-existent children.

Im an antinatalist because of the limitless evil of other humans, and the wage slavery perspective. Im glad im 52 and i hope the finish line is real close.....

Fellow antinatalist here. Thanks for sharing your insights.

I exist because my mother was clucky for a baby girl after seeing her neighbours young daughter playing outside. Fast forward 45 years, i am the daughter she so wanted who has inherited mental health issues and addiction from my mothers poor choice of a mate. Sure i had a pleasant enough childhood but suffering severe depression and anxiety from 29 onwards and finding out my paternal grandfather died in a lunatic asylum at 42, i am happy to say the bloodline ends with me. I feel i have no right to birth a child into this world, especially with my genetic history.

I am an antinatalist. I am childfree by choice because it is selfish to have children because nobody asks to be born. This is a disgusting world and nobody should procreate because of that. If you want children, you should consider adopting or fostering children. It would be far less selfish than popping out a biological child of your own because you are helping a lives that are already here.

it doesn't matter that harms outweigh the benefits or vice versa. i fail to see how its anyone's call to put those two on a scale when its about another person's welfare. another human that has no saying in the matter. Harm is a thing, and is by itself the reason its immoral to make a person.

Nice to have a British anti natalist. Subbed as well. Great video.

I'm so glad I found your channel today! Your points resonate exactly with how I have always thought about this topic (along with the wider consequences for the rest of the earth and overpopulation). "When you procreate, you impose the child on the world, and the world on the child".

Lots of good points made in a short time! This video could be useful for antinatalists to share their view in a quick and clear manner (to friends and family for example). Especially if they have trouble conveying/explaining their philosophy. Thank you for that.

It's pretty strange that a species has gotten to the point where we're openly discussing voluntary extinction. I think that alone might be proof that this is all a lost cause

I love being in an Antinatalist comment section since I don't have the urge to correct the pathetic belief systems which other people have! It's the only online space which I can enjoy!

Longtime antinatalist and I’m so glad I found your channel!! It feels so isolating at times, especially being a woman in the southern US. Glad to see I’m not the only one! Excited to see what your channel will post :)

Great video champ! You are doing awesome work.

I recently started watching your videos and I completely agree with you. We never know how our kids will fair in this world and they're guaranteed to experience death. Some die horrifically like a few of my relatives. One of my paternal uncles died last year after dealing with a serious disability that ruined his mind and made him bedridden for many decades. I was RELIEVED when I found out he finally passed away from pneumonia. I also had another paternal uncle who was brutally murdered by a total stranger in his home several decades ago and my paternal great grandfather on my father's mother's side who was also murdered because he won after gambling. My father experienced some crazy stuff on and off although he luckily was able to get through those experiences and become a computer programmer but had a difficult couple of marriages and a few disabled kids. He know is 78 with end stage prostate cancer, obvious parkinson's that his dad seemed to have too and high blood pressure. He's the shell of his former self and is mainly bedridden. He needs help with a bedpan but at least he is still able to use his smart phone and laptop. It's sad and frightening to say the least that this is the end of his life. Plus with my own health issues involving a probable rare genetic disorder. I won't elaborate but I'll just say this disorder has caused a lot* of problems for me over the past 42 years, plus PTSD from some of my own past experiences and no* unfortunately I'm afraid of opting out even with all that I've experienced. I wish I was not afraid but that's how that goes. So these are obviously many of the reasons I believe in antinatalism but even if I and my family were healthy, I would hope I would still see how there are no gaurantees for my future offspring plus death is inevitable. EDIT: I needed to add that I live in the good old U.S. so I can't afford normal health care and had some* bad experiences using the free clinic. I'll also add other bad things have happened to other relatives and family but it's too long to list and it would seem made up so I won't bother. Thank you very much for the videos!

I am suffering in this existence because of selfishness of my parents. In future, I will be extremely poor because of High inflation government here doesn't give any benefits, simply looting public's money. All problems are because of birth. Who else is having similiar situation??

There was a point in my life when I was desperately looking for an argument that it was ethical not to be vegan. No one could convince me. Now I want to have a baby so badly but I can't justify it. I had this funny thought (I don't think this is justified), I could have a baby and teach them to spread messages of morality amongst the people and the overall good would outweigh the suffering they would experience. On reflection, I thought how very god-like of me 😅, sending my only son to the world to suffer but to help relieve the rest of the world of sin and help save others. Anyway I am at the point where I am searching the internet trying to convince myself I am wrong (watching both sides- obviously due to this video- cant be biased for what I want), but antinatalist argument is too strong.

I'm antinatalist because A.) Capitalism. B.) Health issues and disease that can potentially arise. C.) Anxiety and depression that can potentially happen. D.) Boredom. E.) There. Are. So. Many. People. With. Narcissistic. Personality. Disorder. Deception is Very Very Very common amongst homosapiens.. F.) Sociopaths and psychopaths G.) Trauma, rejection, heartbreak, being made fun of, radical leftist ideology, radical right wing ideology. All these things can absolutely manifest. H.) Climate change. The list goes on and on . Is there laughter?? Joy, beauty? Sure. But one definitely isn't missing out on anything by not existing, yet they are missing out on all the misery. That's the asymmetry Benatar talks about

Children needs unconditional love and acceptance. Children shouldn't have to work to make their relationship with their parent work. They need that. Children need the freedom to experience all the emotions. In our society we are taught to suppress emotions. It's messed.

I suffer a great deal with depression and anxiety, it's like I'm living in a cage i just want to escape... I am opposed to procreation because of the suffering imposed, not just on myself but others like me - and not just mental health issues, but the pain of physical health issues too, and the effects of war, famine, greed... I've lost my faith in humanity, as there seems to be overwhelming ignorance and selfishness, and I just don't see the point of continuing this cycle of pain. I'm sick of people and sick of life.

I used to be jealous and envy others on social media whenever couples broadcast their highlights of a new born baby 🤱 and seeing all this "CONGRATULATIONS" down below on the comment section but then come to think of it.... I ask myself, what exactly are these people Congratulating for? By bringing another drone slave and suffer on this planet?

Great video! I was raised by emotional immature parents in a place that I believe is a forgotten exil. My life mostly sucks tbh. Being antinatalist makes it easier for me to go through life, knowing I am putting an end to this annoying human existence, at least from my part. Your last point is awesome! Couldn't justify bringing a child here.

Wow he made very good points! I love how he said that he doesn't know how he will die and if he doesn't know how he will die, then why create another life?

this world is pure desire. but the desire causes slavery. imagine a man who has compulsive sex drive that puts him in risky situations because of trying to satisfy some implanted biological need. he could be robbed and stabbed at a truck stop while trying to make a deal with a hooker. the world creates situations that are destructive all at the base desire of our drives. if sin exist, it is borne from things created by the creator themselves in order to keep a perpetual motion machine churning.

I agree with you. It's funny how I always ponder about the last point. Thought I was the only one haha

I myself have actually entertained the idea of asking my own parents the reason I exist/what they wanted when they chose to have me. I am not and wasn't at that time unalive pondering, but I was struggling with life at the time, and my parents seemed to be increasingly annoyed with my existence. I wonder to this day what their answer would have been, or what it would be, or how they would react to such a question in general.

For our ancestors, a predator could show up at any moment. Bad news has ALWAYS been taken more seriously than good news. It's a built-in logical fallacy. As humans evolved, the typical best of "good news" was just like "oh we found a tasty berry bush" and therefore nowhere near as relevant as the worst of bad news. All I see here is someone whos brain has taken this to the extreme. Apparently, suffering is the only outcome of bringing a life into this world, and joy is irrelevant? Happiness is nonexistent to you? Or if it does, it's almost just like, morally outweighed by the mere presence of suffering in the world?

Do you know Emil Cioran brother?

I agree with your reasons and all the other reasons I've read. But my main reason is because I'm an environmentalist and depopulation can save the earth.

Your points are interesting, I was about to ask if you wished you had never been born in the first place but you answered that in this video. That feeling of wishing to have never been, how common would you say it is around you? Because in the end I think it's the root question : how many people regret being alive? If its very common then I would say it is absolutely valid to be an antinatalist.

Well said 💯

I like your analogy, but I might tweak it a bit and give you another one. Tweak: Is it right to take a person at homeostasis, force them to exercise heavily, to then let them experience the pleasure of a good meal, rest, and a shower? Do the ends justify the means? New: Is it right to force illness onto a person so that you can then heal them so they appreciate health? Do the ends justify the means?

Yay, beautiful

I myself find this ride we call life a drag sometimes I must admit and thoughts of cashing out have visited me on various occasions, but they remained just transitory thoughts for the reason you have stated yourself- we are here, so we might enjoy it as well. The answers to your unborn child who is complaining about the hand he has been dealt could be one of these: 1. The non-existence is coming and is 100% guaranteed, it’s just the question of time, so just be and watch the end approaching. 2. There is no “you” in the most proper sense. What you call “I” is life expressing itself through you and all you do is to link past with the future. 3. There are two categories of matter, inanimate and animate. You are the later. If you reject your duty to live and pass it on, you will only change form from one to the other, but there will still be you. 4. When you choose to create life you choose to change the composition of matter which already exists, it’s like burning wood instead of leaving it to rot. Either action will only chance it’s form, but it will still “be” there. 5. Living is nothing else but the experience of another force of nature. All the troubles and tribulations will come and go, and no one will remember of them. Only life itself will remain, and you can choose to be part of it, because not being already is if you don’t choose otherwise.

Hello! Conheci o seu canal através da page Stop Having Kids. Seria muito bom se os vídeos tivessem legenda em português. Isso ajudaria a expandir o alcance do canal. Abraços do Brasil!!

That last point got me a bit teary eyed ❤ on a lighter note I disagree with the thing about being hungry. Because food tastes good so I very much appreciate getting hungry so I can eat tasty food 😋 (obviously only a tad hungry not like actually starving)

I hear you

This is just birth nihilism. It feels bankrupt of any form consistent ethical foundation until such a set of ethics can be used to denounce creating someone. It's either 'there is no point' when it comes down to reasons to make someone exist or 'what if they suffer overall' when it comes to reasons they shouldn't and not a single moment of nuance. If we did the most fundamental thing and just decided that suffering is boo and pleasure is yay we already run into an overwhelming amount of reasons why sentient beings would be subjectively justified to create more sentient beings directly or indirectly.

I've spent most of my life deprived from my desires anyway. We should thank our parents. Life is a gift remember 👍

i saw you in that debate video. you're very sharp. good job

I’m a Nigerian Child Free guy. I see poor Africans have 12 kids I know will all have hard lives. It’s because of religion. It’s unfortunate people don’t soul search. Nice video 👍

Fascinating topic. I cant help but think that if your life is "on balance net positive" then life is worth living. But I aknowledge that arguably a majority of people alive today cannot say that (not sure if I agree). I think the biggest question is about the future: 100 billion people have ever existed, how likely is it that another 100B - 1T+ in the future have better lives that are more easily justifiable?

From a different point of view - most of the Near Death Experiencers (myself included) strongly resist returning to a 3D existence/their bodies; most want to stay in the non-physical realm. The majority are only convinced to return to their lives out of a sense of responsibility to others who depend on them; I've never heard anyone say they so loved being in material existence that they couldn't wait to get back to it. There are also reports of being forced back, unwilling & unhappy. The teachings seem to imply that certain lessons can only be learned in the 3D, via suffering. So then, Antinatalism would appear to be the ultimate rebellion against the Higher Powers. The great Trogoegoautocrat that feeds on pain. . . . ? One can only wonder!

Love this!! Are you vegan?

I wish the video was longer

Im not "Antinatalist" but I dont have Children/Offspring because im doing what I wanted done for myself. If my parents or any parents did not have sex and procreate I nor anyone would be here to exist in these dynamics and death(or anything else from the universe/reality)is not needed to escape this or to stop experiencing this.

what part of dying you are afraid of, or not looking forward too. is it the potential pain you will experience on the way to death?

Nice explaination!

well said, it is just pointless. and if the women dies in childbirth, not only the kid will die then or after,wards but the woman will be killed too, and then the man is lumbered with the kid or more if there are triplets. .if the kid grows up, and kills people, in a shooting, car collsion etc that is even people dying painfully. all because of the person's choice to make a kid it is just a pointless, preventable mess.

It's all very simple, but life is absurd and most humans would with a straight face deny the light of the sun as we say in my language which is Dutch (I am from the Flemish part of Belgium). I have mostly the same reasons as you for my antinatalism. Had a vasectomy 9 years ago, best 50€ I ever spent. Most of my friends are childfree, but then there are the optimists who still want to breed. One is a single mother who is now pregnant, she is a psychologist with no partner, 40 years old already. She works with children with mental and physical disabilities. I almost fell off my chair when I heard she got herself impregnated...other friends too are thinking about it. One couple, the girl is very ambitious but always tired and wanting to work less. Her man is a doctor so has been carving open dead bodies and been dealing with the misery of people in every stage of life basically his whole adult life. I try to reason with these people but it's like talking to a concrete wall. Don't know what more to say to them....

I agree with you- don’t procreate 😂

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Great video.

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Given that open individualism seems to be the most logical metaphysical solution to the indenity and other minds issue, that would in my mind make anti natalism untenable. Because everytime "you" would die, you'd just wake up as someone else. Forever.

I don't think dismissing something for the mere fact it involves circular reasoning is very persuasive.

There are moments of joy in life (if you're lucky) but I'd still rather I hadn't been born. It's an opinion I keep to myself and simply say, 'I dont want kids' when asked, because it's not a very popular point of view. My husband is more childfree than antinatalist, and to my knowledge, I've never met another antinatalist irl. Society wants us to keep popping out more wage slaves. Is it worth it? I don't think so.

Do you think natatlists will ever change?

The Natalists, say that create a human being it's another way to serve the society, and the richest says that I can guarantee a good life for my children because I have money, funds, houses cars, and all this, then I ask them: how can you stop their suffering!?

Are you antinatalist for other non-human species? Please answer below.

This is beyond Treif and Harām...

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The only thing guaranteed in life is suffering ageing death the how we will die bare thinking about scary

I have a question for any AN. Do you ever experience joy or awe? I’m not being cynical, just seriously asking.

Being is good which is axiomatic. Nilhism is unsustainable as a life philosophy or anything but oh well

Denile of opportunity.... hmmmmmm

Bro actually fell for the antinatalist meme and ended his bloodline😂

You know what I agree that specifically you shouldn’t have kids so that’s one thing we can agree on but somehow I doubt we have to worry about it

One thing i did not get is that non-existence is better than living a suffering life,but we will all die one day,is this not like the same thing of not being born,we will get the same non existence,being it,because you did not born or because you died,another thing how can one be eternaly non existencial,i mean theres is no time so eternety is one second,its like when you fall a sleep and you don't dream so you just wake up,like a time skip,it will be a time skip to when we are born

The perils of nihilism. If you do not sincerely seek God and the eternity of your soul, you will inevitably end up in despair and a vacuum of meaninglessness like this man.

Amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing you are very wise to the philosophy of antinatalism is so beautiful ❤

The logical conclusion of this idea is that all life is immoral. Would I prefer a universe with no life? Should I deprive all potential beings the experience of consciousness.... which seems just as bad as creating a life who by definition did not ask for it. Who am I to say it is better for a future being to never exist? A universe without life or consciousness, because I personally feel a nihilistic existential ennui... It's bordering on narcissism.

I hate to say it but problems come to all, even Jesus Christ had problems and He was born and died sinless. He was fully God and is fully man. God The Father has problems, people are denying and rejecting His spiritual advances, and yearns for relationships with people. The Holy Spirit has problems, people are choosing to obey demons instead of Him, people hate goodness and sinless behaviour so much that they consistently reject the Holy Spirit and His guidance and justice for mankind. if even god has problems we can imagine what a normal man like you and me go through daily. The point of the story is it doesnt matter about problems, what matters is communion, relationships and bonds with have with others. Most importantly with God Himself.

nuns and monks. the original antinatalists.

Just sounds like a guy who's been in his room for so long, procreation is both selfish and selfless paradoxical, i can fire back on everything been said. Life is tough so do your bit to make it easier otherwise you'll never get anything out of it and you'll always believe these fantasies to be true simply because You chose to stay in this deloused and lonely state, how many of you have meaning and positive connections in your life out of interest.

Wrong question. Right question: why you arent antinatalist?

It is about inheritance of lands, a kingdom back in the day. It is that we entered in to this ongoing event in the throws of a cry for Free-dom that has created our plight. Your argument is valid, but see the duality: we're between Mars(War/Wrath/red) and Venus(Sex/Lust/blue) in the Womb of Mother Nature and evil is on the march that creates a godless world, a dog star (Sirius), dog being god reversed, us being wrath/lust in the flesh - mind over matter. Why it is needed to stay evil through virtue, but that battle was lost long ago. We have become consumers, literally, and it's the loosening of chains that creates this desire to breed/fight because we are literally dogs in the flesh, canine (wolves), and the accuser is building his army while plundering the resources of this place we were put within to have dominion over/protect. The war now is for your mind, corona (mind), and for your loss of inheritance (Matthew 6) - the Bible - Testament - Last Will and Testament. So no bringing life here isn't bad if it's to have them inherit the earth (promised land), but that it is overtaken by the forces of evil it has become that. But you can't lose sight of the fact that you are in the flame still, quite literally (light a match) and you still have to concern yourself with your ancestors who are trying to guide you (unseen) and realize we still represent them - why the accuser tries to break ties with the past (as myth) and push everyone to focus on "the future" and marching straight ahead into oblivion - postmodern minds. You are in a war whether you want to be or not.