Why I'm Selling the Klipsch RP600M

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@27ups 3 года назад

Love the honesty in your reviews and your are not afraid to go against the grain! I find that really helpful and does raise eyebrows on why these get better reviews else where. Keeps us all better informed and it saves people hard earned money too.

@jacobb1354 3 года назад

Great to see evolution in your reviews on particular speakers. Real honest evaluation is what matters. It keeps it fresh and exciting too.

@robotcowhand1276 3 года назад

Awesome breakdown - Love the "current thoughts" summary in the description! I picked up the BC3 from your recommendation and paired it with a TA-100, very impressed!

@brochg 3 года назад

Great explanation! It echos my own experience. Thanks, Randy!

@TedTheAccountant65 3 года назад

Thank you Randy! Your reviews on the SVS primes drove me to take a test drive . I was blown away and decided to sell my Yamaha tower speakers replacing them with the Primes. They are keepers. Bravo!!! I did go for the piano finish so they look as good as they sound.

@stayoutofmyhouse 3 года назад

I sold my RP600m for similar reasons, particularly the thin sounding mids... and replaced them with vintage Heresys. Love them!

@DBrownCo 3 года назад

Well said. Sale prices create a sense of urgency that's not based on sound preference. I my case if I don't have a chance to sample before buying, in my mind it sort of helps mitigate any disappointment "Buyers Remorse". Then the hassle of sending back or finding a buyer. Yuck. The struggle continues It's crazy.

@allears1236 3 года назад

Randy, I really enjoy your reviews. Keep up the good work!

@1mctous 3 года назад

The fact that Klipsch can sell them for $430 tells me that they're inflated. I also strongly agree that the "sale" price promotes impulse buys and later remorse.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

I saw that they're back up to $630 which is crazy.

@danielseiler4344 3 года назад

I bought klipsch 600m thinking they would beat a pair of vintage Boston towers 3 ways. I was Wrong!. I found the klipsch to be more artificial and the Boston t830s are more pleasant and natural to listen to at all volumes. I sent klipsch back and ordered svs prime bookshelf ( for rear surrounds) and svs ultra center. The Boston's STAY! I'm afraid I'll be disappointing if I try to replace the towers.

@francisteardrop 2 года назад

It was hard to say no to a pair of piano black RP-600Ms at about $400 (new/shipping & tax included). That said, my GoldenEar Aon 2s outclass them, and the Klipsch midrange is poor. Their treble is very good, and they do play incredibly loud due to their sensitivity. That’s where they excel.

@Adrian-jh5cr 2 года назад

@@danielseiler4344 Towers always sound better than book shelf speakers

@danielseiler4344 2 года назад

@@Adrian-jh5cr I bought SVS ultra bookshelf, they beat my Boston towers in dynamics and sound stage though a tad less refined, but fun to crank up with my SVS sub. Perfect for home theater. I listen to the towers for casual mid level listening.

@seandugan5619 3 года назад

I appreciate your honest reviews, new to the hobby at this level I've been watching most of your videos and have been stuck between the klipsch line for its aesthetics and the airmotiv b1+ to pair with my denon avr-s650h. This video was a great help.

@nicksundby 3 года назад

Wow your content just jumped up a level, nice job

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

Thanks!

@odurandina 3 года назад

i love this guy...... i play his videos at 1.5 X speed. I love him TALKING wicked FAST because life (is). Measurements confirm the big midrange dip.

@ivenhoho 3 года назад

We appreciate your honest reviews. You're becoming more sophisticated, and we're growing with you.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

Mark... sophisticated... well now. I've been called a lot of things but sophisticated has never been one of them. I'll take the win. Thank you, sir

@Jonathan-ff4wo 3 года назад

Great points on the silliness of the up and down prices throughout the year.

@moosewayne8434 3 года назад

Had an SVS Prime set up for 5 years. Bookshelves+Center +Sats. Also PB-1000 and PB12-NSD. controlled and powered with a Yamaha RX-A780. This amp smooths out high volume high frequency.

@scottspencer4018 2 года назад

Good on ya for telling it like you hear it. Way too many reviewers have a hard time saying less than wonderful things about popular audio gear. Its subjective, but have always preferred the sound of something like a Wharfedale, Spica, Mission, Monitor Audio, Rogers, Proac etc. Thanks for your reviews.

@treyhorn5645 3 года назад

What a great video Randy. That's growth in the audiophile journey. Awesome 👍❤️

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

thanks so much

@PlaybackMansion 3 года назад

Klipscsh randomly sells it's last gen Ref Premiere stuff pretty cheap You've got some balls going against every reviewer on RU-vid and dissing the RP-600M. The Corporate Donors will be displeased. I, however, am nominating you for a Nobel Prize

@sting64az 3 года назад

Possibly, I say possibly a nomination for the "reactions" of bookshelf speakers Hall of Fame...

@sting64az 3 года назад

At JBL "We want you to hear the truth"...

@harveylin3548 3 года назад

Nah it sucks, straight up, just good enough for a certain genre of music and movies.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

I never said it was a bad speaker. It’s great. It just wasn’t a speaker that would serve as a reference anymore at its price... which is all over the place anyway.

@solomonanczarski5402 3 года назад

@@cheapaudioman Can you talk more about how the speakers sound when paired to a sub? I will be using a sub with my bookshelfs so low end isn't so important. How do the rp600m compare with other speakers in the class if they are all connected to a sub.

@dylansarson2784 2 года назад

You do this well and are right on point with my own thoughts. I've owned and still do many speakers you audition. Keep up the good work and enjoy your coffee ☕️ 👍

@mttpalmer 3 года назад

Loved the video this morning. These candid, no BS evaluations are why I value your channel much higher than any of the other audio reviewers who always post rosy reviews.

@odurandina 3 года назад

i love this guy...... i play his videos at 1.5 X speed. I love him TALKING wicked FAST because life (is). Measurements confirm the big midrange dip.

@TomBartol 2 года назад

@@odurandina 1.25x is perfect.

@darrencosby8936 3 года назад

I pair mine with a Klip sub (wireless

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

Thats awesome. Glad that you enjoyed it

@BryanRuby 3 года назад

I'm pleased with my Klipsch RP-600M and after a year of use I still plan to keep them. But your assessment is fair. I've set mine up with the a recently purchased center RP-500C for a nice 3.0 system. In other words the speakers are used for both stereo audio and 3-channel audio-visual purposes which are quite pleasing in this manner. Increasingly for a strictly 2.0 system I'm finding tower/floor speakers over bookshelf/stand-mount to be my personal preference.

@odwatchguy 3 года назад

Nice video Randy. It isn't easy for everyone to try dozens of speakers to choose one overall endgame, your honest appraisal of the speakers helps me choose something I can live with long term. If I find something on sale, I have your past videos to help me keep from buying S15's sound.

@rjzlwop3153 3 года назад

I am so sorry that you’re sad don’t make sad make happy happy, however you have to go where your heart takes you and your, standing points and what you believe in I’m trying to make sense here takes you, have an awesome day buddy and I’m glad that we weathered the cold, and keep up the great work

@cesarestefanini1299 3 года назад

Thanks for the very honest review! One reason specific customers may prefer klipsch respect to competitors (e.g. RP600 vs the SVS) is efficiency if used with low powered amps (e.g. tube amp single ended). RP600 are - manufacturer specs - 96 dB, while SVS 87 dB, that is 8 times less acoustic power for the same electric power. BTW I do agree with all your remarks on sonic characteristics, thanks again.

@pedecia Год назад

Klipsch have dodgy way to rate their speaker efficiency level. He just said that the woofer of the SVS works even better than the Klipsh at low level so this tells me miles on real efficiency of the klipsh.

@b.borrelli8688 3 года назад

Thanks - Did the same A/B shootout between Prime & 600M and have to agree the Klipsch had a dip in the middle that I was not a fan of. SVS were a more even well rounded sound.

@danrazART 3 года назад

Your laid back, non chalant sense of humour is refreshing. Keep it up.

@johnnybarqs1 3 года назад

Thanks for doing what you do Randy! You have become a part of my Saturday mornings, with a coffee in hand, chatting about all the great value gear out there to get the most value for our dollars and all before the kid wakes up. Dig it man.

@stevezeidman7224 3 года назад

Very impressive video, Randy. Taking on the Klipsch bandwagon is courageous. That’s like taking on the LS50 😂. Oh wait, you did that already.

@yonkocommander5531 3 года назад

Very glad you made this video, thanks!!!

@thefactor6909 3 года назад

Another great review Randy and I totally get were your coming from with much respect. With that being said I really enjoy my rp600m’s. They’ve actually moved into my bedroom though and running with a budget Yamaha receiver and sounds phenomenal. In my man cave I’m running the big brother RP8000f and Monitor Audio Bronze 500 towers for a different flavor of sound periodically and both threw a Nad 356bee and couldn’t be happier . I think all speakers no matter what price bracket are going to have there advantages and disadvantages . To me the Klipsch is a well rounded speaker that does everything well and great in some areas. To add to the excitement one of my customers is a Klipsch dealer and I was able to get my RP8000 f’s for a little over $800.00 dollars . That just sweetened the deal that much more and I must say you have to audition these sometime and think you will be very surprised how much more these Excel over the 600’s especially in the mids which really adds the butter to them :) and of course the bass is unreal with a 8” mid and woofer. I actually haven’t ran my sub since there arrival feeling no need for more bass. Totally get the frustration with the pricing/ marketing structure. But to me if I want something I’ll just wait for the price to drop and not pay the premium so it doesn’t bother me. i.imgur.com/PRwFYah.jpg i.imgur.com/7QQ1mw9.jpg

@Jedi_Order81 3 года назад

Great video as always cheapaudioman. The SVS Prime series are fantastic speakers. Klipsch I found fatiguing when I listened to them at the store. I made the right choice with my SVS Prime 5.1.2 system. They makes me smile everyday Keep up the excellent work cheapaudioman 👍🏻

@themayorpwns 2 года назад

For anyone who has a pair of these, I highly recommend the GR-Research upgrade. The upgrade was a HUGE improvement; it fixed a lot of the issues/deficiencies of these speakers. That being said, if I was in the market for a pair of speakers I wouldn't buy the RP600Ms and the upgrade kit, I'd shop for something better out of the box.

@kttt8319 2 года назад

Have you found anything better out of the box?

@Truth-Machine5000 2 года назад

I doubt it. If you watch alot of GR Research videos, you will see a pattern of short cuts taken on the crossover. Even on rather expensive stuff. GR has convinced me to go DIY.

@ashahrokhi 3 года назад

Appreciate the honest review and discussion! Keep it up. I’ve noticed that most of the of the reviewers that hold the RP600M in high regard tend to pair them with rather pricey Class A or Class A/B amps. I’ve also been told by some other RP600M owners that these speakers really need that to bring out their full potential, particularly in the bass and low-mid section that you also note as lacking at low volumes. I currently have a pair of these as well and do sometimes find them to be a bit bright and fatiguing when paired with some Class D amps, but I’m going audition them with some other amps before I decide whether to keep them or not.

@jedavagas4343 3 года назад

and it is true, they sound amazing on my class A tube amp. Horrible on my class D receiver

@Adrian-jh5cr 2 года назад

Of course they do any speaker sounds better with better equipment

@TheAboriginal1 Год назад

Found a very lightly used pair for half MSRP and pulled the trigger. I am very happy with them at that price point. All your points are very valid! I am happy to have not paid top dollar as I agree they are not quite $600 range. Would strongly recommend picking these up if you find a nice used set.

@HomeTheatre101 3 года назад

SVS Prime Bookshelf’s ftwww 🔥🔥🔥 Actually traded my Klipsch R-15M’s Yesterday for some Wharfedale Modus 8’s!

@aussierob7177 3 года назад

The first time i heard Klipsch loudspeakers was at the Australian Hi Fi audio show in Sydney 1972. These were the big La Scala models. The records used to demonstrate the speakers was The Missing Linc vol 2. A direct to disc recording of instrumental tracks. The other record was The Carmen Ballet recorded in Russia. I remember the sound as being very bright and a bit hollow . The next speaker i heard was the Magnaplanar dipoles The sound was a vast improvement .The overall sound was more "musical" with a beautiful midrange warmth which the Klipsch could not do. The bass did not extend down to where the Klipsch excelled but in my opinion was still pretty good. The Maggies excelled with classical music with a less strident sound that the Klipsch had. I am not surprised at your decision to sell them.

@michaelwehner1738 3 года назад

Thanks for the video. I bought a pristine set of Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 used and saved hundreds. Bi-wiring really helps. I also picked up a new Wharfedale WHD-8 sub online for $199.00. So, I’m happy for now. My rock and jazz records sound great. But where I really noticed improvement is in classical organ music.

@pfritts3111 3 года назад

Wanted to say thank you thank you thank you for saving me almost three hundred dollars for mentioning the Elac Outlet store!!! Two fronts, rears, and and a center for WAY less than it would have been on Amazon for the b62's. Love your channel btw!

@johnmd1970 2 года назад

I think the reason some people love these speakers and others don’t may depend a lot on setup. I’ve found that you don’t want them pointed directly at you ears. You can use toe-in and distance to rear wall as a tone control. They’re also not good for near-field listening. You need to be a reasonable distance away, maybe at least 6’. In my opinion correct placement is worth it as these speakers really draw you into the music.

@plaubelmakina8916 3 года назад

I love a 15" sub with Bookshelf speakers for low level listening. It's truly a pleasure.

@LeoRousseau 3 года назад

Hey Randy, Honest reviews are what I'm on RU-vid for and I appreciate your honesty! Don't change a thing bud! There's nothing I hate more than a reviewer that I can see through as far as sucking up to a company. Stay true to yourself and us youtubers as well!

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

Appreciate that, Leo.

@Monkeyseemonkey79 3 года назад

I was delighted to buy are pair of the RP600M for $430 last year. No complaints about seasonal discounts - it rewards the patient.

@dolly_llamas_tea 3 года назад

Loving the upgrade in video quality. Way to level up!!!!!!

@mobilepsycho 3 года назад

I always appreciate CAM telling it his way. Me personally I get a warmer more intimate acoustic feeling from the Klipsch. Although the Primes are detailed, I feel less engaged. Either way I think as audio enthusiasts or audiophiles we are lucky. So many great choices and great quality reviews. 😎

@tbonet859 3 года назад

What components do have in your system, feeding your Klipsch?

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

I think this is a great speaker for tube amps as others have pointed out

@tbonet859 3 года назад

@@cheapaudioman Thank you. Appreciate your videos.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

@@tbonet859 I used a marantz receiver, the emotiva ta-100, a topping mx3, SMSL ad18, the svs soundbase, and I believe the ta-100 acting as a preamp into the A300 emotiva amp.

@jedavagas4343 3 года назад

I own em and like em, connected to my tube gear.

@luisperez-fs2gz 3 года назад

Music preference plays a significant role on equipment choices. I am heavy on acoustic Jazz (specially Afro-Cuban), blues and classical. The RP-600M has brought my system to a level that no other speaker has done for me- and I had several Bookshelf speakers costing an average of three times the price of the Klipsch's. I am also aware that this could change if my music preference changes. Anyway, another great review and analysis by the new Standard in Audio review.The CAM.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

I love them for sure. I just can’t keep them with everything else. They’re truly great speakers at $450

@luisperez-fs2gz 3 года назад

@@cheapaudioman That is what I paid. I thought $600 was a bit high. Keep up the good work.

@TheAboriginal1 Год назад

I very much agree! These do a marvelous job with classical where getting the highs and mids right is crucial.

@deputy3690 3 года назад

Agree 100%! I have both pairs and after many months of listening, I find the 600`s a bit fatiguing. I will keep mine though for certain music and recording quality. Great video Randy.

@wenchal4879 3 года назад

Totally agree with you on the Klipsch pricing strategy.

@fabianchavez8219 2 года назад

Interesting. I compared the RP600M to the SVS Ultra's (their top tier and a step above the prime's) in a direct AB comparison where I could pan between both speakers instantly. Klipsch on the left channel and SVS on the right channels on the same amp, in FL Studio. I found their sound to be almost identical save for a few subtle differences. I sat there listening to different content at high volume for a good while comparing the two and for the price difference the Klipsch definitely win in my book. They're a great sound for $400 used or refurbished. Just outstanding in comparison to the SVS for half the price.

@ja8020 3 года назад

Great honest account of your experience Randy. We all know your digging the Elac UBI 52 better atm and you won't miss the Klipsch. :)

@kohnfutner9637 2 года назад

I replaced my rp600m with the rp280f. I like them much more because the bass is much more adequate but the rp600m is capable of a lot of enjoyable listening in my experience. I enjoy it in smaller listening spaces and I think it was slightly above my ear if I remember. I had them on adjustable stands with a Yamaha receiver with ypao. I still have them but not in use atm. I plan to set them up somewhere when I get space. Maybe at my brother's apartment.

@buffal0bilious 3 года назад

It’d be interesting to see the “winners” of each price bracket compared to see what you get for each step up in $. B1+ vs Prime Bookshelf vs Uni-Fi 2.0.

@danielubbink2573 3 года назад

God love ya and bless u Randy for your forwardness, honesty and candor ! Your doing a awesome job man for the common folk of the world, who want the truth and not the bullshit. 👍

@kozmiczian795 3 года назад

honesty makes value, Randy. Thanks.

@superd222tube 2 года назад

Sincerely, thank you for this video. The Klipsch pricing structure pisses me off too. For that reason, I'm not buying another from them. I did purchase the RP-600M's at their lowest price and had to do some exotic things at the time to get them at that price. I came close to buying additional Klipsch speakers a couple of times. They were at the higher prices at those times. I was unsure of which model to choose and didn't pull the trigger. I was tempted by their 'sale' in January and couldn't audition them first. This video helped make a better purchasing decision. Thanks again!

@svalbard01 3 года назад

I guess the RP600 have been Eklipsched

@DBrownCo 3 года назад

Optimus SVS Prime is much taller.

@billd9667 3 года назад

Ba-dum-bum, psssh!

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

I see what you did there... and I like it. Solid dad joke.

@TonicofSonic 3 года назад

Bro he liked your comment so much he named a video after it! 👍👍

@ReflectedMiles 3 года назад

Funny. Though we probably wouldn't want to see his hearing-test graph plotted over the top of the RP600M's frequency-response graph. Just sayin'... I'm not a big fan of the RP's either, but the SVS Prime has cheesy construction and a 7-8 db. rise from around 1.5 kHz to almost 3 kHz. It's hardly a reference bookshelf to hold up in comparison. I don't think he even rated it very well next to KEF in his run-off video between those in this price range.

@ld4974 3 года назад

I've watched the price of the speaker fluctuate and have never felt compelled to buy it. $450-$650 is still a hefty investment for a bookshelf speaker for some people.

@blech71 3 года назад

Gettin better and better man’ keep it up 👍🏽

@maestro0428 3 года назад

Love this. Love your videos.

@bhob666 3 года назад

I had purchased the RP600s a few months ago as a replacement for the Elac B6 in my office using a Musical Fidelity Amp. I had thought I made a mistake because they were fatiguing and not listenable with certain music. I decided to move them to my bigger living room with a vintage NAD amp that's a little warmer and I really like them now... So to me, it all depends on the room and equipment you pair them with. For my office I got the Revel Concerta 2s which are perfect.

@jedavagas4343 3 года назад

the same thing happened to me. moved them to a bigger room with tube gear and OMG! magic

@stanmah5721 2 года назад

🤣

@artcoffeejeff 3 года назад

Wow! I didn't really think this would be sad, but it was. Well, I'm off to Europe for two weeks with my family!

@viorellunganu824 3 года назад

And it cheaper than a audio sytem;))))))

@Josh-nd8lb 3 года назад

Great, honest and undoubtedly unbiased reviewing. Great channel 👏👍👌🙌

@cliftoncrooks6389 8 месяцев назад

I like and appreciate your contents. I recently decided to dust off my old audio system (Marantz AV560 pre-amp, Marantz MA500 mono blocks, B&W DM302 speakers) that had been parked for more than 15 years ago when my son was born. Turns out he's into music. I was able to find the RP-600M + the Wiim Pro Plus for under $500. I also added the modi+ DAC for $129. I essential modernize my system for roughly $600 and I am very pleased. The RP-600Ms are great for what I paid for them. Thanks and keep pushing out those contents.

@rrt08 3 года назад

"Breaking Up Is Hard to Do” Thanks for follow up opinion on the Klipsch, don’t see that from reviewers.

@bassman4632 3 года назад

Zero Fidelity has a follow-up video, he calls it After the Hype or something like that

@Raymondey 3 года назад

Very honest review! Thanks man! 👍

@PawelGrawender 3 года назад

I sold my second set of RP-600m piano black in favor of KEF q150 just last month, piano black look and feel twice the price of KEF but after listening to both for roughly six months I decided to part with them forever. I have background music running all day long almost every day with very low volumes in the morning when I still have people asleep in the house and KEF just handles low volumes better (yet are less sensitive...), imaging is not quite as good as Emotiva B1 (ribbon tweeter magic) but they sound incredible with sound coming from all directions unlike Klipsch.

@danbaxter3597 3 года назад

I sold mine for a lot of the same reasons. I actually enjoy my Infinity R162 more any they were only $160/pair. Next time they go on sale pick up a pair for review, I don't think you will be disappointed.

@holylighthealing 3 года назад

Dıscernıng and comprehensıve revıew based on wıde scope of speakers. Excellent.

@daiwenhu2901 3 года назад

Like your true review and comparison, thank youm

@lico1021 3 года назад

Great video! Bummer I Missed this while I was hunting for new speakers last week. Anyways, I do have the Klipsch 600 coming in the mail :) I was lucky to get the pair for $350 from an online retail store (which sorta drives your point about pricing) so I’m sure I’ll have little buyers remorse. Also, I’m upgrading from the Edifier R1700BT so I’m thinking I’m still at a novice level where I’ll just be excited when something sounds “better.” That said I did research sound stage and imaging and learned that this is really what my ears are attracted to. Hopefully the Klipsch give me enough of it to be satisfied. If not, at least I have this channel for the other recommendations for a better experience in that respect. Thanks!

@paulwg2112 3 года назад

No speaker shootout. It’s Saturday Speaker Send-off!

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

That kind of makes me sad for the Klipsch. I really had an emotional connection to them

@Chiroman527 3 года назад

Actually, It's Saturday Speaker Shot! Randy, Shot The Sheriff !!!

@stanstocker8858 3 года назад

@@cheapaudioman Speakers and all pleasure objects are investments. Just like funds or stocks in your IRA. You buy them for future returns. A good investment is only worth having while it continues to meet your objectives. NEVER fall in love with an investment, fall in like. I still have the Missions I bought in 1983. I still really like them. I like them more after replacing the tweeters around 20 years ago. One of my shop buildings has 25 year old Polks that I really like with my SAE amp and Hafler preamp. I have other speakers, some near field monitors, some general purpose. When I hear something that I want more, that something will become my main speakers. Like you , I found the Klipsch to be weak in some critical areas. Just listen to Steely Dan Babylon Sisters, where the high hat just barely opens as the female vocals do a descending slide and Fagens voice punches in for just a beat. Hey Nineteen opening measures are even more obvious. The Klipsch just falls apart, my Edifier near field powered monitors on my linux audio box pull it off better. Stefan Grossman Spider Web Blues just lays out flat on the road through the RP600s, all the finger sounds and punch gets lost. Thanks for bucking the Klipsch gang bang love fest!

@LILBoyPh 3 года назад

who sounds better this or the polk rti a3?

@AllboroLCD 3 года назад

Hope your good down there in TX cheapaudioman!

@philipm4051 3 года назад

I have a 50 year old Pioneer SX727 receiver (re-capped) and 40 year old Polk SDA-CRS speakers. Have enjoyed this combo for many years until I went with av surround sound. Now getting back to 2 channel and pulled out the Pioneer and Polks. Found a good deal on the Klipsch’s so thought I’d try them. The Polks are more transparent with a cleaner sound while the RP300M’s are warmer and more forward. Definitely get a more “live” sound from the Klipsch’s. However on many recordings the midrange sounds muddy. Sounds like male singers are crowding the mike. Maybe it’s the receiver. Tried speaker placement but can’t really pull them out due to room size. If I engage the loudness circuit and turn the bass down a few notches, the Polks get the warmer midrange while keeping the clarity missing from the Klipsch’s. May hook Klipsch’s up to my Yamaha or Sony av amps and see how they respond but as of now I’m not too impressed. Not hearing what all the positive reviewers are. Lots of variables factor into the sound.

@seanjoell 3 года назад

Thanks for the "Truth Bombs". It's what we all need to know and understand.

@rickjongsma9380 3 года назад

I wasn't sure about my RP600Ms after I bought them for $350. But after adding some cabinet bracing, damping the wave guide, woofer basket and cabinet, and, most importantly tweaking the crossovers (an extra ohm of resistance in the tweeter circuit, Upgraded capacitor and a slightly lower value inductor, they sound really good to me. Toned down the highs a bit and filled in the hole at the crossover point. So much better than my old B&W DM110s and B&W DM602s2s. Now this past week I bought a pair of ELAC Debut B5s, a pair of ELAC Uni-fi UB5s, an ELAC Uni-fi UC5, and an ELAC S10EQ DSP sub, all for $180! Now I'm trying to figure out what to keep for a second system, the B5s or UB5s. Kind of leaning towards the B5s because I can resell the UB5s for a lot more and the B5s sound great with my old DENON DRA350 receiver.

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

Love it. You made yourself a whole new speaker based on a good speaker. Well done. I'd love to hear some more about what you did and even some pictures.

@madcrabber1113 3 года назад

I recently obtained a pair of Klipsch brand new in non damaged boxes RP 280 FA's for the home theater that I am slowly building as I find cheap stuff for $688. At that price I can't complain. I did have to settle for the cherry finish which is just fine by me.

@ewizzle2 3 года назад

I was able to get my hands on a pair of B&W 606 S2 from best buy display models for $450. I also had a pair of RP-600M and RP-160. I must say when listening to the B&W, the B&W just sound so much better. More crisp, more detailed, just overall a better experience. Not saying the Klipsch aren't good speakers, but they are definitely not the end all and there are so many good speaker companies out there to choose from. I am going to be selling both of my Klipsch bookshelf pairs. Now that's not bashing Klipsch at all. Considering my favorite pair of current speakers I own, the KG 5.2. Found on the used market and at bargain prices, those are hard to beat. I appreciate this honest review from the cheap audio man! That's the beauty of this hobby. Everyone has their own ears to choose what works best for them!

@cheapaudioman 3 года назад

The 600s are great and really enjoyable. I just couldn't hold on to them anymore with the svs being a more well rounded speaker.

@EricDSalisbury 3 года назад

I've been enjoying watching your reviews over the last few days. I'm curious. How do you amplify your speakers?

@musicmaniac2165 3 года назад

Yes I agree with the marketing schemes and pricing. Our prices in Canada make it a challenge so the used market is the place I shop. The kef ls50 open box for 800.00 cdn. So the dilemma begins. Have elac uni bookshelf and fluance bookshelf.

@squngy0 3 года назад

That's an interesting combination. Do you alternate them?

@mr.joeshow9036 3 года назад

I’d like to see your thoughts on the Tekton Mini-Lore, floor-standers. Also the HSU CCB-8 bookshelf speakers. Thanks for the good reviews.

@Carlos-up2el Год назад

Hola Randy, muchas gracias por tan valiosa información, estuve buscando alternativas y no centrarme solo en una, excelente video!!!

@LuLzezRoflcopter 3 года назад

Bought a pair if 600m’s refurb pushed for $350. never had “real”,passive bookshelf speakers before and wow I’m blown away. Agreed klipsch is playing shenanigans with their constant sales between 450-600 new. Non the less, thanks to youtubers like you, I can get an idea of wat these speakers sound like and know what a good price is for them.

@pinoyxbox 3 года назад

This is what i heard when i tried the rp600m and 3030i on my local store. I liked the 3030i more.

@gdowns62 3 года назад

Honest! I have a little flee amp (Pass ACA) that I made from a kit. These speakers are more efficient than the others that you like.

@blazermdx 3 года назад

I’m so happy you are helping spread the word about Aperion. I just love their quality, support and sound. I’m still using the Klipsch RP-600M as my reference speaker, in my 2-channel videos but I have considered switching them up with something else, every once and a while. I totally understand your points, especially on pricing. Another great video, my friend!

@MrDoc55 3 года назад

I never met a bookshelf speaker that satisfied me regarding bass. I always add a sub. I even added a sub to my KEF LS50 Meta's. Add a sub to the RP-600M and they kick butt. I've tried it.

@woohunter1 3 года назад

Almost all new speakers need a sub, even my rp8000f’s are weak in the low end.

@titosirj6262 2 года назад

Which sub did you use?

@quikspecv4d 3 года назад

You guys have to try the Swan M3A. It might be your end game speaker. They are powered so you don’t need an amp. Plenty of inputs and a remote too.

@arieouwerkerk2733 3 года назад

Randy, the sadness you feel now you are about to sell these speakers means you do have a connection to these speakers. You are about to say goodbye to a pair of old friends. Just binge listen to your favorite speakers or new friends you meet along the way and fill your soul with happiness......

@Billy-rr7re 2 года назад

SVS Prime Bookshelf currently $$$$700. it is great how prices fluctuates on all speakers

@kyleshays 2 года назад

You're so right dude.... I never thought of that.

@kylemacarthur3177 3 года назад

I was like watching 'Sophie's Choice.' I cried when I got to the end...

@AbideinChristFully 3 года назад

i was considering the Klipsch since they are $400/pair on amazon used...you woke me up.

@tomhamilton6377 3 года назад

Really just proving the point that the savings to be had buying preowned makes it the best bang for my buck.

@macejc101 3 года назад

Happy with my 2.1 SVS prime books and SB-1000 sub on an AVR for lower volume music and television sound..

@dominicgreen115 3 года назад

Best video yet... have you listened to the Edifier S3000 pro?

@MrCzytnik 3 года назад

Randy, you really should review Monitor Audio bronze 100 6G. They are so good speakers with fun Factor.

@DougMen1 3 года назад

Monitor Audios are really great speakers, but the prices have really gone up a lot from when you could buy the amazing Bronze 1s for $300 new and the 2s for $400. Now, the least expensive bronze 50 is $500. B&W has really shot up in price too, although they and the Monitor Audios are now made in China and used to be made in the UK. The least expensive B&W is the 607 which is now $700. Even the Wharfedales have gone up quite a bit the last several years. The 12.2s are now $500. But, they're still my 3 favorite speaker brands.

@Casey.S. 3 года назад

Some good points. Nice video. 👍

@dodpr 3 года назад

I have the 600M's. They sound good after few bottles of wine. Fun channel! I subscribed because I also like my coffee. 😂

@adamyelle4901 3 года назад

I bought the rp600m after all the hype. After an hour of listening I was left scratching my head and disappointed, full of buyers remorse. I gave it about a month hoping my opinion would change, but it did not, they never grew on me. Luckily Ron pointed me towards Danny at GR Research's upgrade. Much easier to listen to now. Sounds far more balanced and the measured response verifies this. I doubt I will ever part with them now that I have this project complete. Very worth it if you're someone who plans on keeping them.

@NakeanWickliff 3 года назад

I’m waiting for the same upgrade to come. I think filling up that missing range and taming those highs will go a long way. Dynamic eq for low level listening is key.

@adamyelle4901 3 года назад

That's exactly what I hoped it would do and it lived up to the expectations. I ended up skipping the tube connectors and kept them in stock configuration where they are still able to be biamped. For me it was more about getting the speaker to behave a little better without need for additional EQ. That's exactly where it landed in the end and I love them.

@NakeanWickliff 3 года назад

@@adamyelle4901 I’m even more excited now. I’m not sold on the tube connectors, especially after his latest videos about speaker wire which was debunked by audiosciencereview guy.

@skolvikings5263 3 года назад

@@NakeanWickliff Just drop the treble 2db on the tone control, and keep them on axis, I doubt you'll notice that dip. Try enjoying speakers, instead of focusing on measurements.

@NakeanWickliff 3 года назад

@@skolvikings5263 taking measurements does not preclude me from enjoying my speakers. The minute I hooked them up I was like whoa, that treble is something else. The attack of a kick drum shouldn’t draw attention to itself in the treble region but it does for me. I was coming from Klipsch heritage speakers which focus heavily on the midrange and vocals. I love them for this quality and tone. That was completely gone from these speakers. I measured to see what was going on and sure enough almost a 6db drop at 1850hz. Also not just a shelf at 10khz and above but it actually keeps rising until the tweeter gives up on the top. So I eq’d with mini dsp and all is well.....except I’d rather not have to use my pre out of my receiver and my mini dsp plus another amp just to get a flat response from my speakers. I’d build my own if I didn’t care about them looking like crap. Anyhow, I’ll have the new xo soon and won’t need to use tone control or eq to FIX the recipe, I can just use it to add the garnish and use my DSP snd amp for other duties. I don’t measure for the sake of measuring. I measure to help see what I’m hearing soo I can enjoy the speakers and more importantly the music how I would like to hear my music.