Why I REGRET buying an EV! 

the poor subsidizing the rich!

To be fair, as a collective, they voted for it.

To be Fair, most people don't believe in a "Collective"... And, no matter how loud people have been voicing their opinions against the "Consensus Narritive" being pushed, some people just need to learn through the Road of Hardknocks... I mean, it's like they enjoy being lead through the streets by the Pied Pipers they vote for...Never thinking for themselves!

Get what you voted for!!! lol.

You think we don't subsidize oil companies?

fanbois have an incredibly large blind spot that causes them to ignore reality, just like flat earthers or the people that say niburu is coming from under the sun. All kind of mad hatter nonsense the last 20 years. Makes me sad that critical thinking seems to have vanished from almost everyone under 40.

'I paid 19,000 for this car' And how much did all your tax paying neighbors have to chip in? Was that fair on them?

@@user-jb2om7cm8mthere is not incentives or tax breaks on the purchase of a second hand EV in Ireland so that answer to your question is €0 👍

The first horseless carriages had terrible depreciation, also. So what. You have a car for the ages that is 4X more efficient and longer lived than any ICE car. You are driving a pioneer vehicle.

@@lesbenson9421 Longer lived than any ICE car? Are you joking? There are ICE cars in great condition which have been running for 3-5 decades. Modern BEV and hybrids have hardly been around for more than 1 decade. And where did you get your "4x more efficient" statement from? They are not *that* much more efficient than ICE cars, and even if they were that is completely negated by needing to waste so much more of your time charging, and just finding a charger that is not only available but actually functional in the first place. Don't bother replying with "well you can just charge your car at home" because that is something that many people do not have the means to do for a variety of reasons.

And you cannot reliably determine what the value of the battery is.

@@CrowPal nothing when it has used up its cycles.

Mobile battery.

Wrong. An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive AUD $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b No disrespect, but you’re full of shit. Factor in the pollution created to generate the already overtaxed electrical grid, the manufacture of electric cars vs. gas cars, the fact that electric cars are heavier, use up tires way faster, only last a few years at best, leading to even more manufacturing and pollution, to say nothing of the extra pollution caused by disposing of all those big heavy batteries….electric cars are a disaster for the environment when all of the bits of reality are factored in. Think about what you’re saying first before jumping on someone that knows quite a bit about this. Unless you like being a mindless lapdog.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b I mean SERIOUSLY! What are you talking about, “zero dollars and zero emissions”????? Far from it, you are living in a knowledge vacuum. 🙄

@@VolkswagenNut1969 Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! In Australia, most EVs are essentially charged with home rooftop solar. After the break even point has been reached with the solar system investment, which is only within a few years, all electricity generated becomes free of charge. This explains why home solar is so popular in Australia. By the 2030s, the _entire_ Australian public electricity grid will be powered by renewable sources, so by default, all EVs will have zero emissions. Tim, you need to be more Australian in your outlook in life and pledge your loyalty to the Governor-General. You will live longer. 🦘🇦🇺

I agree, I'm driving a 82 Land cruiser fj40. Owning vehicles long term is much less wasteful, besides co2 emissions is literally plant food. Co2 is necessary for plants to produce oxygen, but I guess schools aren't teaching this in 4th grade science anymore.

Can't think anyone would be stupid enough to buy a new milk float

I’d consider buying one, for maybe 20% of original price. But not Hyundai though, a tesla maybe.

I can, me. Bought a used 2016 Ioniq EV 3 years ago. Had 35,000 miles (56,000 km) and now has 122,000 miles (196,000 km). Paid $16,000 USD and they are selling for about $15,000.00 now. Note that none of the used ones I've looked at have as many miles as mine, so I know I couldn't sell mine for that much. I've had zero problems with the car, and the range shows about the same as when I bought it. I know this is anecdotal, but it's my story.

@@maurice7413 Me too, they're amazing value now previous owners have taken a massive hit on depreciation.

I'm just waiting for them to get cheap enough.

He paid 19k then 10 months later sell it for 14k which was in December. The 100k km is his Odo as of now which is 5 months later.

I'm in the UK, but for comparison if I bought the same car here and held it for a year and put say 15k km on it. 2017 Ioniq with 100k km = €12,800 2018 Ioniq with 85k km = €13,400-14,000 Lesson, if you paid €19,000 for the car a year ago you're a mug. End of Ted Talk.

100,000km is only 62,000ml that for an ICE is only just run in. EVs typically last for 120k mls before the battery needs looking at, which usually turns the vehicle to scrap because of the replacement cost. £14k as a sale starting price is reasonable depreciation for an EV that is 5 months older than the £19k purchase point.

Yeah you milkfloaters out there, you have to learn it the hard way...but you can't say we haven't told you so😂😂😂😂

​@stephenballantyne in fairness, cars in the UK are a lot cheaper than in Ireland, even 2nd hand. There's at least 5k in the difference usually and lower spec on the Irish car

Besides the fact that they are no junk as they save 70 percent energy compared to ICE cars, and can be powered by sun or wind for almost nothing, the price argument does not apply anymore. Tesla Model 3 is now cheaper than a comparable midsize car with same features.

Here in Vancouver, it's cheaper to drive a model 3 or y. Better warranty than ice cars to. There's a trend around the world where people seem to think they get cool points by putting down evs.

​@@AbolishCommunismit's edgy and cool I guess. I don't have an EV, I drive a twin turbo straight 6 H-pattern gas guggler, but I think people should drive whatever they want and not denigrate them like what some "cool people" are doing these days. And if I were say that they were overpriced junk, I'd like to think I'd back it up with some info of why, and not make a blanket statement about all EV's. I'm not siding with any group and playing any dumb car tribalism games. I'll just be a petrolhead and appreciate the EV's that are implemented properly. Maybe pick one up one day.

@@voongnz congrats for having a sound and open mind. im really surprise at this day and age, people are still not doing their own research before forming their own decisions. they tend to get defensive when im just trying to debunk the myth or misinformation. i always said if evs are currently not suitable for you, fine. get the car that suits your needs or wants. no need to bash or spread misinformation. give others a chance to make their own decision.

@@JamesTan-mq4eo yeah I'm generally an early adopter on anything tech related, however EV's somehow have evaded me or vice versa. I'm not updated on the latest EV tech but I know lfp and blade batteries have progressed and I'm not repeating old info of batteries spontaneously combusting, thermal runaway etc etc. I also ride motorbikes and know how cliquey and douchey tribalism gets, especially between sportbikes and cruisers. It's very cringey. Even the Harley Davison HOG ownership have shunned their own with the Harley EV. It's funny to me how people just follow and repeat just because they don't like something, sometimes it's something they don't know all or anything about it, and even worse when some people don't like something but don't know why they don't like it lol. Sheep. If they have a legitimate gripe about something, I'll listen to it, I might agree to it too. Being too closed minded is a sign of low intelligence.

Me too! 😂

More like severall flights of stairs.

Save the pianos 😂

I will be using this quote in the future - mark my words

What Hertz does, or does not do, in the United States with their company rental fleet is neither here nor there for individual consumers. A consumer only buys a single EV for his personal use, not tens of thousands of EVs for company revenue generating purposes. In any case, the truly massive savings with running costs for an individual EV owner still hold true, no matter what Hertz USA does with their large EV fleet. As a matter of fact, Hertz Australia does rent out EVs.

All ev's and hybrid cars + trucks are junk get over it. Ev's 🔥 aren't allowed on my property end of story 😊

@@aaaaaaab11 Todd, no one cares about your stupid American opinions.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Who gives a crap about Oz? Are you the trendsetters? You don't produce a single car. EVs have cost real companies billions and EVs have been exposed as frauds.

another one who does not understand that the Hetz story was fakenews, they speculated on buying Teslas cheap and selling them expensive, as Tesla lowered their prices they made a loss, it had NOTHING to do with "high repair costs" or other BS, that was a dumb excuse for their failure. Companies like Hertz do not make money on lending cars, they make money on buying thousends of cars for huge discount, use them a short time and resell them.

I have no intention of dying but gonna happen some day

An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b delusional or what ?

@@keegan773 Facts are facts. Maths is maths. There is no escaping basic and fundamental financial and scientific realities.

@@keegan773 Alright, Keegan, then what are the cumulative petrol and engine maintenance costs of owning a petrol car for 20 years in your part of the world.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b and delusion is delusion.

My last car died at 15 years old 70k I was hoping it would last forever but so many things went wrong. None to do with maintenance. Mostly electrical and oil and coolant leaking. The AC was still great though.

What do you think of how the skoda enyaq looks.

One of my cars is 25 years old and I bought it 24 years ago.My latest is 15 years old and I bought it 2 years ago.Both run like new and I have no intention of selling either and both have many years of life left in them.Looking after them properly and using them properly makes all the difference.Not many people seem to be able to grasp that.How many cars and batteries are these ev wankers going to get through in the same period.

😂😂Butt ugly. Yes we were promised lovely looking cars and instead we got cars actually worse looking 😂

120 miles per charge?! That’s sad and funny. My 20-year old car gets the same 22 miles per gallon as on day one; Even in Winter.

But, why would you want to? In Australia, no one would take you seriously for driving a 30 years old Volkswagen B5 platform car which dates from 1994.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b the b5.5 came out in 2001, Besides Driving an old car isn’t something bad. Its also better for the environment to buy a used car than a new one.

@@halvdanjakobjakobglappkaft68 Wrong. The Volkswagen PL45 (B5) platform was launched in 1994 with the inaugural Audi A4 (B5) in that year. The related VW Passat (B5) was subsequently launched in 1997. The Passat B5.5 is merely a 2001 revision of the original B5. The VW Passat true successor to the B5, the PQ46 (B6) platform car, was not launched until 2005. You are not a true Volkswagen enthusiast. Driving a 30 year old platform car in Australia is indeed bad, as other drivers will not take you seriously as you will be deemed as backward. Perceptions matter. Wrong again! Older petrol cars are more damaging to the environment compared to newer and more efficient cars as most of the CO2 and toxic emissions are generated when the car is operation over its multi-year lifecycle, not when the car is manufactured in the factory. This explains why the Australian Government would prefer drivers to own the newest car they can afford. Needless to say, EVs are always better than any petrol car when it comes to efficiency, environmental and health impacts. 🦘🇦🇺

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b wrong, its not a petrol car, its a diesel. Also the b5 and the b5.5 are not the same, calling yourself a Volkswagen enthusiast should mean knowing the difference between models even if it’s just an update to an existing model. Also I don’t believe EVs are as reliable as old diesels considering the aging on the batteries. And the fact that you have to replace tires more frequently on EVs due to their weight. It is also not ideal having an EV if you live outside the city because there are no charging stations. EVs also diminish in range when its cold making long distances in freezing temperatures impossible. The idea of EVs is good but the execution is poor.

@@halvdanjakobjakobglappkaft68 Wrong! You did not pay attention to science in high school. A litre of burnt petrol produces 2.3kg of CO2 emissions. A litre of diesel produces 2.7kg of CO2. It is beyond doubt that the negative environmental effects of diesel are comparatively worse. This explains why the European car marques have been moving away from diesel cars, especially after the VW Dieselgate saga of 2015. I did *not* say that the B5 and B5.5 platforms are the same. What I did say is that the B5.5 platform of 2001 is merely a _revision_ of the original B5 from 1994. If you think that the 2001 VW Passat is the ‘all new’ model which followed the 1997 Passat then you do not know what you are talking about.

Why can't they charge in their garage?

The cost should get passed on to those who pay to use it so shouldn’t affect you.

If you'd watched any of his videos you'd wish you'd had a lobotomy first.

You haven't worked out that he's a troll yet then? The man can't complete the simplest of journeys, he's supposed to be an adult

Aah the great Macmaster. Yeah he got screwed there. Imagine buying a car for 120 quid and it being worth 40k 2 years later. Welcome to EVs. But at least he's making some good money on his EV vids. He needs to keep that car. But most of us can't do that.

Well, seeing as his whole grift is to get anti-ev, Porsche-driver-hating loonies to buy enough of his merch to fund his electric Porsche - successfully, obviously - I don't suppose he's stopped laughing enough to care. Also, check Autotrader and you'll find it's still worth 75-80 k.

​@@Lewis_Standingtry a vw id 3 then, they lose 20k in 2 years. Go look on auto trade. Mgs can lose 6k in months.

The ‘state of the battery’ is irrelevant nearly all of the time as the battery packs are designed the last the life of the EV many times over. There are many EVs around the world which have travelled 500,000km with their original battery packs.

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bwhen you plug a scan tool in you can see how much the battery has degraded. Some mechanics do thhis for you now as part of a pre purchase inspection.

There is no comparison between a mobile phone battery and an EV battery. The BMS makes sure the voltage on the cells never hits zero and maintains a buffer at the top end...This is why EV batteries last so long, easily outliving a typical ICE engine.

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 In Australia, most petrol cars are decommissioned and scrapped at 15 years with only 180,000km travelled, as at this point the petrol engine and transmission maintenance is too onerous and uneconomical.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b In the UK the average car is scrapped at 16 years and 150,000 miles. An EV has a fraction of the moving parts and subsystems of an ICE (gearbox, starter motor, fuel pump, water pump etc), the electric motor is good for half a million miles or more and the battery at least 250,000 miles...Eventually it will sink in to the minds of Joe Public that EVs are a much better long term prospect than an ICE which at 15 years is a bag of bolts.

Lease one is the only way.

if 'better' = more polluting

The subsidies are going away

​@@decimal1815you mean like all the pollution that comes from making the batteries, and don't forget it is still fossil fuels that are powering that EV, unless you think that electricity comes from air.

@@depthspader8820 Thats too much for an EV fan. They only understand what they can see with their own eyes.

Petrol is bloody flammable. In Australia, there are 10,000 petrol car fires each and every year. EV fires essentially do not happen due to their inherent safety.

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bThat 10,000 figure seems conveniently neat. The most populous state, NSW, has less that 2000 vehicle fires per annum. These are fires for all types of vehicles, and over 50% of those fires are arson. Methinks you extracted that "10,000" figure from your rectum. Or you've been watching too much of the EV shill the Electric Viking. The Aus government sponsored site EV Firesafe claims there has been less than 500 EV fires worldwide in the modern electric car era. A rather dubious claim seeing how the Chinese government are acknowledging they have over 20,000 "new energy" vehicle fires per annum. Don't believe everything you see or hear.

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bI'm sorry, but I have to laugh. Your brain washed

Neither do EVs.

​@@glennmartin6492actually, they do, and have.

I work at a CDJR dealership in the US, we don’t take BEVs as trades either because of almost zero interest in a used BEV and extremely high aftermarket warranty costs. HEVs and PHEVs will be the only viable electrified vehicles in the future, BEVs will be a niche market if they survive at all.

LR Discos have also dropped in price like a stone.. top end of the car market is broken at the moment.

an angle grinder will do the trick.

Based on what? Entitled to your opinion of course, but I'd disagree, charge at night when you sleep and you can go 250-300km on anything newer than a gen2 leaf, eg it's 300km to Cork from Dublin and there's plenty of places to charge enroute if needed. Yes EV owners need to actually plan ahead a bit more than diesel, but that's the trade off

​@valient5 i just dont think the country is properly set up for them. Not everyone lives in dublin or cork, they might have to travel 50 or 60km just to find a public charger, I dont own one so im obviously not an expert but the battery seems to be half the price of the car so if that goes youre in big trouble. A lot of dealers are refusing to take them as a trade in it seems too. There just arent enough positives, maybe if the insurance or tax on them was cheaper it would be something

@smashyrashy the main difference you and others might not be considering, is with Electric you no longer need public infrastructure for 90% of most of your charging needs. I've 2 Electrics and only use public charging once or twice a year when driving to the west and back the same day. Its safer for my wife and kids as she doesn't have to leave them in the car to go pay in the garage also. I just saw 4 brand new high power chargers in carrickmines yesterday and there's more popping up everywhere. So your statement is simply not true. Everywhere there's a 3 pin plug, there's a potential charging spot. As the cars improve the time to charge will reduce.

@@valient5 Lucky to park on your property, for highly populated areas, apartment blocks and terraced housing does not afford that luxury. Admittedly most of those living there are unlikely to be able to afford an EV, new is too much and secondhand, just a financial liability on the battery as most mass market cars do not warrant the battery after 2 years. EV’s are best suited to lease/PCP as they can be got rid of after 3 years, bit like a phone contract for those who need the latest tech, a disposable item.

I actually disagree even though have no idea what situation in Ireland. If it's free, I'll take it

But he'll vote for the Lib Dems the next time too...

Yep he is a total tool! Idiot pfft

But that 73 miles will cost you £7.07 I can do that in my EV for £1.46

@@chrishart8548 Quite true but you missed the point. The very rapid depreciation of EV's more than cancels out your savings. A Yaris cross with 100k km will still have a good residual value. Endfloats EV depreciation has probably cost him twice his "savings".

@@chrishart8548 electricity prices are not going down, especially as nations continue their march towards green energy which is VERY expensive. Not only that, the Yaris has a lot more range, fills up way faster and is therefore a lot more practical in general.

​@@chrishart8548 bet your EV has depreciated more than his Yaris cost.

@@georgegently3026 I wouldn't know. It's just worth 1 car to me

Long term support is absolutely crucial. Being Swedish I'm used to having Volvo and Saab parts available pretty much universally and for all time. It's what makes me comfortable driving a 20 year old car. It takes a lot of resources and energy to build any car so with electric cars having less parts needing service it seems wasteful to abandon support after a few years.

Those old Leaf's had zero battery management. They were basically 1st generation EV's. We are now on 4th generation and there are plenty of EV's that have made it well over 200,000 miles/322,000 km.

A Leaf comes with an 8 year battery warranty so not sure where you’re getting 5 years from….

Wrong. An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. An EV powered by home solar eliminates the costs and emissions from the outset. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.

@@ViktorSargeThe Chinese owners of Volvo cars cannot be legally compelled to supply new pars for long obsolete cars forever. Business is business.

Then you won't be driving as all cars will be EVs within 10 to 15 years.😊

​@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270hahaha, yeah, ok

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Sure. No one can be voted out or in office and change deadlines the current admin has already changed themselves. And there’s no way to maintenance and continue driving existing internal combustion engines. Nope. No way. /s

​@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270says who? Elon?

@@aantonic Nope, just me. The car industry (note I say INDUSTRY) is only going one way, and that's electric. The debate is over on what and how we will power ground transportation. Just follow the money, see where the investment is going and you will come to the same conclusion.

Its now 2024 and electric cars MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE - AT ALL.

They made no sense to Mr Ford's chief accountant; because they'd make tons more money from a petrol because they cost so much in servicing and maintenance - which equals profit for Ford. They made a heap of sense for the customer; which was why Mr Ford's Model T was originally proposed as an electric. Interesting history of profit before customer value, which is of course excellent business sense.

​@@aeroearthElon Musk is a knob

Funny, I could have sworn that he was a human being........

@@aeroearth look at his head

Trade in? Don't be lazy and sell the car yourself. Why let a dealership and salesman make profit from you?

Yeah, thats not the best metric really. Could almost as well say literally anything has no value, since company or person x wont give you anything for it.

Yeah, that's what the "Don't tread on me " tough guys say. Until they need that help and then gladly accept it.

I don’t think anyone from the government has actually said those words, it’s a made up saying that most people don’t realize is made up.

@@wellfleation1 You are so right. Requiring public emergency services means *totally* that we need the government to decide what kind of cars we drive. Thats definitely the same thing. Its also the government that makes people become firefighters, instead of those people doing it out of their own free will, regardless of if there is a central government to tax them. In conclusion, freedom bad because scary.

Yup, my 120 series is 19 now and flew through its MOT last week, it'll see herself and me out, they can stick battery cars where the sun doesn't shine. So many of my friends and colleagues have fallen for the new car trap, daren't keep them outside of warranty (except for Toyota that is but most of them haven't a clue)

Have a 23 year old Renault kangoo 1.2 petrol. Since purchase 12 or13 years ago including all parts and repairs is costing us iirc when I totted it up last year 2,000 euros. Son has a 29 year old Toyota 1.6 si Corolla like wise just regular consumables in all the years he has owned it. My current daily driver is a 43 year old Toyota hiace that basically costs zero to run All the above are economical on fuel and there is no crazy depreciation or range issues. Also insurance is cheap on them compared to plug in ev Only vehicles I would consider purchasing from the EV range are Toyota hybrids that self charge. These have a readily accessible repairable battery iirc a new Prius battery is in region of 1500 euros , not sure if this is reconditioned but not heard any complaints from ppl about them.

I used to love those cute cars!

Have several old ice vehicles in our family. Reliable and cheap to run. Yes will consider a Toyota self charging hybrid in the future Because the battery’s in them are readily accessible and repairable and I don’t need to stop for hours to plug in Also in my country 90% of electricity is generated by fossil fuels and the 10 % it now seems generated by wind is more polluting than fossil generated because of the huge maintenance in replacement consumables these wind turbines require

Yes, ICE cars just pop out of the ground ready made. It's quite amazing really.

@@CatsMeowPaw I thought ICE vehicles came from a unicorn's bowel movement?

Yep. Rich people in western countries can feel smug at the illusion they’re saving the world from something, while children are forced to mine cobalt in African countries and Chinese Uighurs are making solar panels in concentration camps.

Batteries can be recycled at 90+%. No need to keep digging up new material.

@@darylfoster7944 Thats objectively false.

why is that so? people who believe what they see on the internet without doing any fact finding or research on their own is an idiot anyway. the same person would also buy a car based on a car reviewer recommendation and regret it after. there is no perfect car but there is a right car for you. if ev's due to its current limitation doesnt suit your needs or wants, sure dont be an idiot to rush in to buy one.

@@JamesTan-mq4eo you obviously enjoy your EV. Good for you.

@@5ebra1 i enjoyed my ice too but its time to open your mind and form your own decision. its obvious this content creator did not do his own research and bought something that is not suited to his use case, so he decided its the car's fault.

@@JamesTan-mq4eo You are right that EVs have a role. For most journeys they are fine and if you plan your journey and don’t travel at peak times they are ok for longer journeys. However, there is not enough electricity produced to allow everyone to have one. If ever in the USA had one they have calculated that electricity production would have to be doubled and new infrastructure built. The cables cannot carry the increased current. The same undoubtedly would apply here. Motorists need to be able to choose what car they buy dependent on their circumstances. EVs are not suitable for everyone.

​@@5ebra1 yes, evs with the current battery technology are not suitable for everyone. those who genuinely needs more range on a daily basis or dont have a home charger, my advice to them is do your own research and find the one that's suits your use case, be it ice or ev. Share facts and truthful information like both pros and cons of ev than just mindless bashing or misinformation. as for electrical production to cope with evs, i can only say the situation in the US do not represent the rest of the world, and there is still time to catch up on that. not sure what is the latest goal to stop new ICE cars sales but im sure US can do it if they want to.

Temperatures in Australia have risen by +1.4°C from 1900 to 2020. This is having dramatic effects on the environment and human society. More people are dying due to heat stress.

the climate will still change even if everybody is just walking.

@@gbone7581 Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! You did not pay attention to science class in school. In Australia, the average temperature has risen by 1.4°C since 1900. This results with hotter temperatures throughout the year, especially in summer, and more wild storms, which causes more devastating bushfires and floods on a more frequent basis.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b That's because we were coming out of the little ice age where temps dropped an average of 2 degrees.

@@infiad1275 Rubbish. Temperatures were steady and stable from when AD 1 until about 1800, the better part of 2 millennia, when industrialisation began in full swing. Those who are older can certainly personally attest that Australian temperatures have increased since the 1990s.

My fuel bill was a very real problem, as were the maintenance costs.

It's not really a solution, it's simply an option that makes sense for some people and not for others. If cost of ownership is lower than for ICE, then people will buy them. The real value in EVs is autonomy. There will never be an autonomous ICE vehicle.

@@darylfoster7944 Except that EVs are disposable once their main battery craps out. If it doesn't catch on fire before that, of course.... lol.

@@SevenSixTwo2012 Do you actually enjoy making a fool of yourself? Your ICE car is massively more likely to catch fire than any EV and tell me, what happens to your 15 year old ICE when the engine craps out? Are you going to ge to the main dealer and ask for a factory new engine fitted at main dealer prices? Then you can run around telling everybody how ICE are disposable cars because it's not economically feasible to put a new engine in. Oh, and how much did you pay for fuel and maintenance in those 15 years? It will be many thousands more than I did, many.

@darylfoster7944 it is not an option when the government puts billions into this crap, and says ICE vehicles will be done by 2035. If the government pushes it then it probably is crap.

No car is an investment. They all depreciate. The used car market was very expensive until recently. I’ve recently decided to get a Model Y performance, I was blown away by it. However I’m not purchasing it, I’m getting it on a lease through salary sacrifice. It will cost me the same as my monthly fuel bill of my X5 and includes insurance, tyres and any maintenance or repairs. It was a no brainer.

Any car is a bad investment. You will never get your money back.

Rubbish. EVs are fundamentally more reliable than petrol cars have ever been due to the fact that there are only 20 moving parts in an EV. For a petrol car there are 2000 moving parts, a 100 fold increase. Moreover, there is no liquid fuel nor water-based engine coolant to contend with either. The electric motors in EV are maintenance-free. There are many, many EVs around the world which have travelled 500,000 with their original factory battery packs and electric motors.

Yes Comrade. I take it you are a Member of the Chinese communist Party? What gives you the idea that EV's "around the World have travelled 500,000" somethings? Sounds like communist propaganda to sell EV's to me. And I never mentioned "reliability" at all.

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bI think you'll find that statistically EVs are more unreliable and then still rip you off for servicing all those non moving parts.

@@georgegently3026 What total uninformed nonsense. If EVs were unreliable then the Tesla Model Y would not have been the best selling privately purchased car in Australia for 2023, and neither would EVs make up 15% of the UK new car sales market.

Spare parts for my 16 year old Toyota Prius Tspirit Hybrid are still available. Your 7 year cut off point for spares is a cruel myth. I bought it when it was 5 years old - and yes, it’s been trouble free, still running on the original drivetrain and traction battery, the latter which still works perfectly.

That's cute!

Depends on the EV. If it’s a Tesla it’s really not an issue, 10 minute stop will put 200 mile range on it. I can’t drive for 200 miles without needing a stop to stretch and use the toilet.

They do PCP on combustion car's don't you know? It's perfectly possible to arrange refinancing on cars at the end of the deal and pay them off. It's fine to not want an EV yet, or be skeptical or whatever but it's factually incorrect to state that oil cars are more environmentally friendly.

ICE cars have many pluses but surely you can't honestly believe that any ICE car is the best environmental option.

If you decide to run an EV, you have to lease it, that way you know the cost upfront and have the peace of mind that it is going back at the end of the term, and its depreciation is a problem of the leasing company.

@lewis_Standing, based on articles I have read, while I do partially agree with you, when considering mining, processing, manufacturing, transportation, EV's are far worse

A COAL POWERED CAR (EV's) are the least environmentally friendly choice. If someone wants a coal powered car, using a coal fired steam engine would produce less emissions than an EV.

Great bargains on ex lease cars that are EV though. Really good for the majority of the market that's 80% second hand 👌 Can't wait to get a great new EV model for really cheap

@@Lewis_Standing Yes I’m also thinking of buying an ex lease EV. Just a bit worried I may also end up with a worthless vehicle in a couple of years due to new longer range, faster charging models coming to market. Got to choose carefully.

So you will take the risk of a fleet car and the risk of battery degradation and massive cost of replacement. You have better chances on the lottery.

​@@user-it7lf7kk8mthe chances of winning the lottery are worse than being struck by lightning twice.

@@martinhibbert1428 You needn't worry about newer technology making your cheap EV obsolete - what you need to worry about is when you will need to replace its battery. That's a lifecycle termination event.

Most cars are. I’m about to take delivery of a Model Y performance through salary sacrifice. It will cost the same as my monthly fuel bill and also includes tyres, insurance etc. it was a no brainer in that regards. I wouldn’t buy one.

Is a 7 year old Renault even worth €8500

8500 Euros for the battery is exceedingly cheap. Was that a limited range battery, or full range? Traditionally motor vehicle manufacturers withdraw spare parts support at 7 years after that model ends, so when the computer fails or the circuitry to drive the electric motors fail your neighbour will have to rely on third party spare parts suppliers, if indeed any exist for what would be a low initial volume car. EV batteries are built into the floor pan of the car, so what was the fitting and commissioning cost? Maybe your neighbour hasn't owned up to that yet. Is your house and contents insurer aware that your neighbour has an EV? In their small print Insurers say that it is your DUTY to tell them of any changes to THEIR risk, otherwise in the event of a claim, they will deny liability. Be wise to make your Insurer aware and do so in writing. You may well face an increased premium.

They have an 8 year warranty on the battery. Something with this story isn’t being stated 🤔

Need to read the small print on ALL warranties. When a lead acid battery failed on my IC car at 11 months the Dealer said it's warranted for 12 months and you have had 11 months use out of it so we will only credit you with one twelth of the value of a new battery. By comparison I bought a Japanese made lead acid Yuasa battery for my wife's car and that lasted for over 7 years, outliving the life of the car.

@aeroearth I've had a car battery last 12 years .

That's not true.

What are the government saying. ?

@@chrishart8548 When he says "governement , he means the voices in his head.

@@prophetsnake Yah, totally ignore that EV STILL have gov't incentives to lower their prices artificially. That's TAXPAYER funds being used there chief. Once those incentives dry up, no one is going to be able to afford the silly things. The fact those incentives have been in place for over 10 years is a HUGE problem. No one should be paying taxes to help you make a bad decision.

@@prophetsnake Ah we have a Sunak fanboy, with his crappy plan to ban new petrol and Diesel car sales. which will obviously come to nothing, like everything the Tories and Labour say are lies.

Being facetious is all well and good, but problem is some people truly believe what you wrote is true/relevant to any used car market.

Wrong. An Australian 2 petrol car household will spend a massive $84,000 with operating and maintenance costs over 20 years. Moreover, 86 tonnes of CO2 will be emitted as well. This explains why most Australians are considering an EV for their future new car purchase as the financial savings, efficiency gains and ease of use benefits are truly huge. You cannot beat zero dollars and zero emissions.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b You do realise your coming across as a bit of a knob here, in australia this, in australia that, trying to shout down anyone who dares question the whole EV religion.........nobody gives a rats arse about what happens in australia, thats why we sent all our convicts over there !

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b I guess you would be cutting it down to 60 tonnes of CO2. According to the DCCEEW in a press release this past February, "Most of Australia's energy relies on traditional sources - non-renewable fossil fuels. Coal and gas accounted for around 70% of electricity generation in 2021." EVs have advantages, but reducing CO2 emissions to any significant extent is not one of them. (BTW - same here in the USA: 59% from coal and gas.)

@@flagmichael It depends on the vehicle type and usage assumptions. Those with older, less efficient cars and drive more will be polluting even more. Yes, phasing out petrol cars has a significant effect on emission reductions, especially when it comes to public health outcomes where 7 million people die worldwide each year due to pollution. The Australian Capital Territory (ACT), and especially the state of Tasmania, have been relying exclusively on renewable energy sources for many years now. The rest of the country will completely transition to renewables by the 2030s. Many Australians households are net carbon neutral as they have rooftop solar power, whereby most of the electricity they produce is consumed by the wider public.

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bBS😊

Yea sure😂

You will own nothing and be happy

That's what jumping into the bandwagon gets you.

No,.they are not.

@@prophetsnake Yes, they blooming well are.

@@matthewgodwin3050 No ,they are not. You make a really compelling argument though. Master orator or master something, anyhow.

@@prophetsnake They cost more to buy, more to insure, and more to repair. They have short ranges, and long recharge times. It costs twice as much to charge an EV on the public charging network than it costs to buy diesel. Residuals are terrifying, they're a disaster for the environment, and they have a nasty habit of catching fire. Sounds pretty rubbish to me.

@@matthewgodwin3050 No they donot. With. trail of lies like tht you hav a great future in politics, though.

Our local Council have Bins for the disposal of Electrical equipment and Bins for old Batteries and CD's. Lol.

@@ivortoad cool story bro

Tyres…?

​@@DeanandLisa1803 didn't say how many miles maybe never needed tyres

@@DeanandLisa1803 Tyres same as electric use at another 2p/mile but they’re no different to an equivalent ICE car, so an equivalent cost, hence why I didn’t mention it

Funny that I have not experienced the so called inconvenience that you are referring to.

Still loving my 26 YO Chevy S10 with 270,000 miles, not rusty, came from NC. $1000. Had it 9 years and no real trouble, always starts and gets me there, the AC is even ice cold, better than our modern midsize SUV. I prefer driving it and can wedge it in any tight parking spot, do not care about door dings. Seldom bother washing it, cleaning it. Is like my dad’s old farm truck of the 1960’s. Just get in and go.