Why I used 3/4 ton Axles instead of one tons(and you probably can too)

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The flu got me this week so I figured a video about a question I get constantly was about all I had time for. 3/4 ton axles can be had relatively cheap and be made rather tough, but do your own research guys, and feel free to ask me your axle swap questions! Yes 1 tons are better but they arent always available or affordable as a 3/4 ton
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@joshuaatkins5197 2 года назад

I didn't hear it mentioned but a Dana 44 has a lot more clearance under it than a Dana 60 on equal size tires. A light rig without gobs of power would be fine. At least go with 1/2" thick tube version though.

@SWBCrawler 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing man. Good info. Too many folks think they need "the best" when they dont even take any time to evaluate what the best FOR THEM might be. Everyone's doing 60/14 bolt or 60/sterling. No ones asking whether they need that? Sure, if you can afford it, why not, or if you get a deal, why not? but that doesnt make you better than the dude who only has 44's and out wheels you 7 days a week.

@brilliantcustoms6440 2 года назад

My first build is a yj, I’m currently in the middle of doing a full drivetrain swap 355/th350/np203 and 10/14 bolt axles. Just piecing together everything while I am in college.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

well hang in there and if you get stuck, keep pushing and if you have any questions lmk

@bigzoffroad 2 года назад

I love seeing a build with 3/4 ton axles!! Not everyone can afford to go up to tons, and not everyone needs them for the limited trail riding they do, or light trail rides without a lot of hard core rock crawling. Also, trusses out leaf spring! Dope!

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Exactly. I do get into some hard stuff but I live in the Midwest we don’t exactly have some thing like Moab next-door. I did a whole video on how I made that truss work too it was a trip!

@bigzoffroad 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad yes, you’re axle truss video was actually the first one i saw on your channel. And yeah, there’s plenty that a built up D44 can handle. Aint gonna be bouncing off rocks at the EFI shootout, but that’s a whole different game

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

@@bigzoffroad my biggest issue right now is my tires suck they’re hard as a rock and don’t have any grip but if you checked out any of my Offroad videos like a smorr you can see how bad it doesn’t wanna grab in the rocks so I did quite a bit of over bumping to get up stuff. I’m also thinking the front limited slip versus a locker is going to end badly when I upgrade😅

@bigzoffroad 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad you currently have an LSD up front? My old Cherokee has an LSD in the rear, and the front was open (i think… pretty sure it was, acted like it was) I like LSDs. Never had that “chirping” issue while cornering.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

@@bigzoffroad yeah it’s a Yukon sure grip or Dura grip so it’s better than a stock one but not quite as good as a true track

@r3kanman 2 года назад

Just subscribe - and just bought a 94 YJ project - stock currently which is great. Working on basic drive ability stuff now. But a video on axle swaps - what works what doesn't 3/4 ton or 1 ton would be great.

@StormbornJKU 2 года назад

I’d say the biggest reason not to go with a specific axle setup is due to aftermarket support. Gears, lockers, shafts, and all the rest. If that stuff isn’t available for the setup your looking at then it’s likely not a good choice. But if the cost is right, the axles will fit your rig, and your willing to do the work on them and make them work for you then it’s all worth whatever your willing to pay and do.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

That’s another good point. And that ties into what I was saying about doing a deeper dive on the topic is what’s worth doing and what’s not. well anything that doesn’t have aftermarket support isn’t worth doing. Low pinion front axles aren’t worth doing either in my opinion

@theezeelife292 2 года назад

Heck yeah!!! If I were to find a deal like that, I'd throw 3/4 ton axles under my rig. Personally, I know where I can get 2005+ F250 axles, front and rear, for $2,500 for the set. Yeah, i gotta drive 2 hours to get them, but always remember the 3rd rule of acquisition; Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

That seems kind of high unless they’re already partially built or something. Then again, inflation. Check car-part.com

@jeepdoctv 2 года назад

Freaking nice jeep!!

@cgscprspecialist3937 2 года назад

Great information!!

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@rifraf1970 Год назад

well said

@glennfosterjr.3883 2 года назад

Currently building a yj for my wife, going with 99-04 sd tons. Putting my race motor I had built for my mustang in it as well

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

i avoided those after finding out you have to outboard the springs. not that I cant do it but I didnt want to haha

@jcfabworks5418 2 года назад

I would have if I had found that deal! Great video. I spent more than I would like on my ton swap but that’s just what JEEP stands for I guess.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Ain’t that the truth. I get pissed when a sandwich is $7 but spend thousands to drive over rocks😂😂

@jcfabworks5418 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad like not batting an eye on the cost of 4 new hymes but complaining that it cost $90 to fill the tank.

@Mezzgrave 5 месяцев назад

As a card carrying member of build it as your budget allows, I salute you. I wheel with what I can afford. I go out with these groups of people in their JK's and JL's with every bolt on expensive part their credit card will allow and we all always end up in the same place at the end of the trail. If mine breaks, I know how to fix it. WHEN theirs break, they are always looking around for someone to fix it. No tools, no knowledge. I always pitch in and get them back going because that is what wheelers do. It's all about going out and having fun.

@FlawedOffroad 5 месяцев назад

Amen to that. I carry too many tools and parts. I’m actually building a kingpin Dana 60 to go up front and replace the 44. Took awhile to find the axle and gather parts. I have almost everything I need now. Thanks for checking out my videos, I have a feeling you will like some of my other stuff

@Mezzgrave 5 месяцев назад

@@FlawedOffroad I am doing the "budget" build on my hydro assist now from your video. It's like polishing a turd on my d30, but you do what you must right?

@FlawedOffroad 5 месяцев назад

Just make sure you get the steering stops dialed it with the ram length. On a dana 30 it uses a bolt with a welded jam nut, you can remove it and make your own stops to whatever length you need to match everything@@Mezzgrave

@slowfox89 2 года назад

A high pinion 44 with good shafts is a beast. In a light rig it's prob going to serve you as well as a 60 stock. I found a 05 super duty axles for $500 for the pair but they need to be completely gone through. I'm gonna change all of it but the housings, knuckles, and shafts(35spl inner and outer fronts yay).Ouch for my wallet.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Yep it’s not cheap and when you look at what all I got for that price you can easily see why I jumped on it

@Wildman4x4nut 2 года назад

Welcome to the 3/4 ton club.... I have a 1887 TJ with a TeraLow CRD60 rear & Ford HP44 front that I've been running 35" & then 38" tires on and the only thing I've broken so far is a u-joint and axle shaft. I have a Dodge magnum V-8 in mine so a little more power but it's nice to have these smaller/lighter axles. American Iron Off Road should have ball joint deletes here in the next few months also for our D44 axles. So those combined with RCV shafts should be good for up to 40" tires.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

I can’t remember which company but one of them is already making the ball joint elimination for the old 44I’ve spoken with the guy. It’s on my list of stuff I want to do. Thx for watchin

@Wildman4x4nut 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad Yes I have the ones made by BoneFish fab but the ones from American Iron will have bearings instead of bushings.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

@Wildman4x4nut Nick Barna Ball Joint Eliminators is the one I was talking about

@Wildman4x4nut 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad Cool I'll add him to my list. Always nice to see other people making stuff for our axles.

@Wildman4x4nut 2 года назад

I found your videos one day when I was looking for other ideas. I'm in the middle of a complete overhaul of mine so was looking for some ideas. Keep up with the ideas and videos.

@survivingminnesota8381 5 месяцев назад

Just bought a 1978 ford f250 dana 44. How do I convert it to 5x5.5 of 6 lug chevy m

@FlawedOffroad 5 месяцев назад

The 1/2 ton ford Dana 44 those years had 5 lug pattern, can probably swap to those outers or redrill hubs. Best bet is to search it up on the ole interweb

@jbivvy420 Год назад

I just want to build up the JL D44's that I have. Already got Yukon 4.88 gears with 37's but I don't plan to really add weight so I am just not sure which way to go.

@FlawedOffroad Год назад

Jl 44s are alright, the aluminum knuckles are weak and they have a cad thing similar to yj

@jbivvy420 Год назад

@@FlawedOffroad do plan on replacing the knuckles and axle shafts

@briandrmoreau3710 2 месяца назад

What’s the difference between a 3/4 ton axle and a 1 ton axle? My C20 and C30 both had Dana 60’s. My later trucks had 14 bolts…

@FlawedOffroad 2 месяца назад

depends on the truck. on the old fords the 3/4t had a HD 8 lug dana 44, (1/2 tons had 5 lug 44) the sno fighter and f350 had a d60 front. honestly in that truck the rear 60 is the same but some are 30 spline and some are 35. I bored my spindles out to accept 35 spline. on the chevy I thought 1/2ton was 10 bolt, 3/4t was d44 and 1t was d60(speaking of front axles) but im no expert on chevy axles cause they are passenger drop aka not desirable to me.

@wvjeepguy8178 7 месяцев назад

Tons are just so heavy. After building a couple sets of superduty tons, I'd welcome the chance to build 3/4 ton axles next time.

@FlawedOffroad 7 месяцев назад

Even the old-school 1 tons aren’t nearly as heavy as the super duty stuff. I’m actually putting together a kingpin 60 right now to replace the 44 and honestly it’s about the same weight maybe 50 to 100 pounds more at most

@jesterofatlas5749 2 года назад

JK & 3/4 ton axles can be fine under a TJ or YJ because they are lighter Jeeps. you just have to build them smart.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

I fear ill start twisting off shafts once I lock the front

@jesterofatlas5749 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad We've honestly had more problems with the rear on our JKU, but that is a heavy 4 door on 42's. Never snapped a shaft wheeling in utah moved back east and we snapped one both time we went out. Planning on putting JK 44's under my TJ.

@joejimenez5399 6 месяцев назад

How did you find that jeep?

@FlawedOffroad 6 месяцев назад

The parts Jeep? It was on marketplace I drove 5 hours to get it

@joejimenez5399 6 месяцев назад

@@FlawedOffroad have you seen any other deals like that on marketplace? How do I get my search function on marketplace to expand greater than just the state that I’m in? I’ve tried it in all it does is pull up stuff from my state.

@TheoneDragon51 2 года назад

Sounds good cut that video. Chop chop. Is it done yet?

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

It’ll be a little bit haha. The next video is gonna be wildly different than what I usually do

@joerouth6255 Год назад

For JK owners it seems like we only have three choices D30, D44 or Dana 60 for front…

@FlawedOffroad Год назад

I mean thats about the same choices anyone has but theres so many variations of the 44 and 60. Realistically you also can get a 9" front in high pinion, look up hi 9. you can make a 14b into a steer axle. you could(but shouldnt) swap old toyota axles in Or call up fusion4x4 or ECGS and they can build anything you want to any size.

@blainflake9835 2 года назад

Let’s hear about what doesn’t work

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Well for starters stay away from anything low pinion for a front axle, just not worth it

@scottmoore6131 10 месяцев назад

You missed snow sliders.

@FlawedOffroad 10 месяцев назад

I have no clue what you're talking about lol

@scottmoore6131 10 месяцев назад

@@FlawedOffroad people who live in Utah we slip n slide on snow most of the winter. I’m in the salt lake valley.

@scottmoore6131 10 месяцев назад

@@FlawedOffroad you were going for all of the things jeeps are used for.

@FlawedOffroad 10 месяцев назад

@@scottmoore6131 right this video is old so I forgot the part where I was listing off the types of jeep uses haha

@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 2 года назад

Take my like and sub.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Sure thing Thanks for checking it out

@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad I saw it in dirtbag mafia. The title interested me as I intend to use 3/4 ton squarebody axles under a 91 s10 Blazer.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

@@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson I occasionally share videos there. I thought this one would fit since Nate also likes to beef up smaller axles than most people use

@DylanYouSonOfABidgeNelson 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad well, you got my sub, so there's that. Lol.

@RollingRigTraction 2 года назад

The waste is the Lamb Rover ... Ummm well Jeep's also.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

Cool story. And it’s a Land Rover discovery not a Range Rover 🤦🏻‍♂️

@RollingRigTraction 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad noted, still money pit trash that pisses from every orifice. I do support the use of 3/4 ton axles though.

@FlawedOffroad 2 года назад

@@RollingRigTraction the Land Rover was purchased because it can go offroad and fit my 4 kids in it with the 3rd row. More for camping/light trail/vacation stuff. Plus it’s super fun to drive around but yes it’s sitting there broke down right now needing an oil pump and power steering lines haha

@RollingRigTraction 2 года назад

@@FlawedOffroad just giving you a hard time😎you gotta do what works for you. I have 5 SUV's and currently none are in working order either! 2 Bronco II's, 2 '93 Explorers and a 2000 Suzuki Grand Vitara. They all need something! Even my 4x4 F250's getting a new engine worked out!