if, when i was anorexic, thousands of people were telling me i was so skinny, so obviously sick, it would have just made my ed way way way worse. that is what i wanted. i wanted to be sick and frail. i think anyone bombarding her is just doing it for some selfish reason, like they want to feel good because they "saved" her. but she can only save herself.
I think the problem is that most people simply dont have enough knowledge. Many mean well but they dont know how. This why I would want schools to teach schildren about this.Also because more and more kids develop anorexia at a younger age. Kids as young as 8 are admitted to recover in clinics.
Old comment on an old video, but this is exactly it. My own observation from tangentially consuming some of Onision's content is that he has a general worldview that you're a terrible person if you don't step in when you perceive people to be suffering, and instead of acknowledging that and working through it, he just projects it outward, and his fans just follow.
@@firstname3255 It's not about being mentally weak. That was very rude of you. This disorder affects brain chemistry via neurotransmitters like serotonin, which leads to this compulsion to do the same thing over and over again driven by irrational obsessive thoughts. There's also a genetic component. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there suffering from your level of ignorance. Educate yourself. Before I even post a comment, I make sure I have my facts straight. Better to say nothing than to speak and sound like a fool.
I knew from the word go i had an eating disorder. It isn't like we don't know, maybe some don't, but about 90% of them DO and they just don't want to. It is murderous. People think we're not hingry, we're always hungry. We're cold. We're very aware of what we're doing to ourselves. We don't care, because our reasons for doing it are more important than our body. Than our health. Than our lives.
Someone responded that "the only cure for Anorexia is to force the patient to eat because they dont know what's good for them". OMG that comment infuriated me as obviously that was extremely IGNORANT & they havent a clue what this disease is about. Hun go do your research before you open your mouth because you couldnt be more wrong. If that worked whivh it clearly doesn't then wed all be cured.
@@Taureanfitness exactly I'm not, never WAS anorexia, and I don't think that makes a lick of sense. like you cannot force someone to do anything. also forcing them to eat would technically be assault/harassment, as you are quite literally FORCING things down their esophagus.
+ruinned I'm not here for views. If you regularly watched my content, you'd pick that up pretty quickly. People don't ask me whether I 'can' help her. They ask me whether I 'will'. The answer to whether I will is that I can't, which is what I explained here.
What Mia Did Next I absolutely don't think it's anything to do with views I hope it didn't seem I did (presumably you're just replying to the other commenter). I was just observing that rather than it being about you refusing to help (as some people were perhaps suggesting) it's that you're not able to! I think it's great that you're authentic and honest about that
What Mia Did Next Why would I regularly watch your content when perception is EVERYTHING. Don't make a controversial video, with a controversial title, if you don't want.. (whats the word?) CONTROVERSIAL comments. And call outs.
Why you won't help Eugenia Cooney? Because YOU can't. No one person can. She requires intensive hospitalization,with a whole crew of ED specialists working with her 24/7 for a protracted period of time, focusing on her ED and then any other issues she may have. Simultaneously, her entire family and ANY friends (if she has any) need to have a LOT of education and therapy as well. Anyone who tells YOU to "help her" may have good intentions, still they are woefully ignorant of what it takes to tackle such a multifaceted issue.
Exactly. I've spoken with some psychologists and honestly I still don't know what could be done. Anything you do could end badly for her, she's in a very delicate situation. And people already tried all possible actions without results. The only thing I can come up with is that her father calls her 'very pretty' in one video, so someone could scare him that he's enabling her anorexia if she possibly dies and then he would do something. But since she earns so much money she could just go live alone as well, I think she ran away from her family once. I don't watch her videos nor subscribe.
Valken : She came to California (Los Angeles) with her brother (he is on the Autistic Spectrum, quite intelligent, yet in no shape or position to exert control over her- or himself, for that matter) ostensibly so she could "collaborate" with more RU-vidrs and so her brother could go to college. Well, it wasn't long before her parents came out to LA to move them back home. Still, she continues to look more and more emaciated, frail and near death. She often needs to lean on something when she stands and does most of her live streaming etc. sitting down. She may get up for a brief period then she is very out of breath and even has started coughing at times. She is continually becoming ill and keeps saying "I don't know why I keep getting sick". The only hope I see for her is for her mother or father to go to court to get her deemed unfit to make safe decisions for herself and get a conservatorship so that they could hospitalize her and get her into a long-term treatment facility. I hope this happens. She is such a sweet, simple and delicate person, she's been through a lot, with her past incidences of being ruthlessly bullied, and it's clear she is isolated and her only "friends" are on the Internet.
Shedonista, It's really sad to say this, but I think her parents won't do something before some scare. I hope they get scared before she succumbs (and I think it'll only work if they're scared for themselves, since they sadly seem to ignore her well being). That's why I mentioned talking to her father. I'd send him a polite e-mail, but I couldn't find his whereabouts. I agree she could be so much more if she was healthy. I just saw a video of a vegan with anorexia named Lauren Kenzy recovering and that gave me hope.
Shedonista Shamanatrix when the deciding factor of a specific person "going through so much" is her being bullied by some kids, that just shows how little she has actually been through in life. shes a spoiled brat who is my age but acts like a 12 year old. shes never had a job, nver had a relationship, never had an ounce of adversity that wasn't self inflicted. she had to create her own hardship because she had everything else handed to her. and she chooses to act ignorant and naive to the fact that she is now creating hardships for others and taking money from CHILDREN.
Alana Corbella : You're truly full of righteous indignation here, aren't you? Does the subject of her being "privileged" strike a raw nerve? You DO understand that Anorexia Nervosa is a SERIOUS medical condition, and what we see on the outside is only a TINY manifestation of all the ways in which this wretched disease has taken control of her mind, body and Spirit, right? I believe that the torment an individual is going through is the WORST TORMENT in the world; TO THEM. That's right. To the person going through the issues, THOSE issues eclipse all other things anyone else may have gone through or IS going through, because it's their own personal trial which they must face daily. Understanding this, really GETTING IT requires maturity, empathy and perhaps most importantly, a sense and an intrinsic KNOWING that people ARE all different, and accepting them where they are at, is a kindness we can grant them, even whilst others judge and ridicule them.
I really respect how balanced you are in your opinions. You really seem to be so considerate about how you approach such sensitive topics and it's something that I feel is so rare on the internet so thank you so much for always being so candid and straightforward but also fair and thank you for not joining those people who are overstepping their boundaries by airing opinions that they are not qualified to air. It's so so important and you're great. Thank you xx
Quite frankly Mia the assertive style with which you maintain your ethical fortitude is a wee bit badass. Honestly it's always so cool to see people in a position of influence deliver such a frank message of integrity. Thanks for stepping up and adjusting your original intentions (different than hypocrisy!) for the sake of clarity and awareness. P.S. Livestream Friday, red light or green light?
scott7 Ethics are the jurisdiction of that which is considered generally acceptable practice. I know many attorneys that are highly ethical. But they are not good people. It’s not enough to say and think nice things. Real integrity is about what you do.
God, I've only watched one of her videos and the comments are just appalling. The entitlement, the poorly concealed sensationalism, the faux concern... I can't believe anyone would think they're genuinely helping her in any way with this. I'm glad you're not joining in and won't be commenting any further on this.
Aya Gontier right? I remember first seeing her channel and feeling concerened. I wanted to say something sweet in the comments, anything. But once I saw them I didn't know what to say. The comments are so... horrible. I wish people could see how little value their hatred has, other than it lending to making her feel bad.
Eli Duran some of the comments are straight up abusive; they're not fooling anyone with this "well if no one says anything something might happen to her". I can't imagine anyone being obtuse enough to think that actual verbal abuse would ever propel anyone to get help. It's just sad. And painfully transparent.
Aya Gontier YES, yes. Exactly. I can't read those comments without feeling like punching someone. People LOVE to talk about things they don't understand.
fourteen I don't understand it. I understand addiction though, and there is nothing you can do to make someone get help. and I have a kid that is a binge eater. it's terrifying as a parent not being able to help. I can't help him, so I definitely can't help someone online that I don't know. I'd like to think that most if the cruel comments on Eugenias channel are from young ignorant humans who don't know much about anything. I was all black and white and very wise when I was young and hadn't experienced things yet.
I know first hand, as someone who struggled with anorexia for 4 years & attempted recovery twice, u can't help someone who doesn't want to get better. That's the first thing your ED therapist tells you in the first session. They ask why u want to get better & then u write down Goals to achieve during recovery. If Eugenia is in denial, recovery won't work. I worry for her because there's so many ignorant comments from people telling her to "Eat a burger". She shouldn't be on RU-vid at all, it's probably keeping her disorder going.
The amount of respect I have for you keeps growing and growing. Thank you for logical, rational, considerate, & compassionate approach to this topic and ED in general. Snaps all around.
Stumbled across this channel by complete accident and even though I've almost fully recovered from my ed for a few years now and it's not something on my mind anymore, I think you're wonderful to listen to. You're so eloquent and informative. Really enjoying your channel 💖
imchristinac • very hard to recover completely, at least it has been for me from anorexia . It gets worse when l have more stress. It's such a locked in disorder
At this point I don't think it's about recovery for Euginia, it's about saving her from her body shutting down. In my country she'd be admitted to hospital against her will by a law, and tube fed up/eat to a more stabilizing weight so she can think properly. Then it's time for motivation to take place. There's no way she's able to make decisions about recovery at this low BMI, her brain is too depraved of nutriens. This is what frustrates me so much - that the psychiatry doesn't intervene and save her life. Because if they leave it be she'll die.
The sad reality is that sometimes you're so ill you need someone else to step in and save your life, and when you get better you'll realize how bad it was and you'll be thankful for the intervention. Waiting for these people to get motivated is pointless (no offense), because their brains don't work. If people would've waited for me to want to get better I would've died so many times. After 5 years that motivation somehow emerged and I'm very thankful for people saving my life in the meantime. Treating ED sometimes requires going against the ill person's will, that's just reality.
I don't think people who haven't been seriously underweight realises what is does to the brain. You totally lose perspective and your thoughts get clouded. Even if you talk and act like usual, believing you're not cognitively impacted, you can't think properly. I remember trying to count calories and it took me at least two minutes to figure out that 34-15=19. You just CANNOT think like you're supposed to.
Linn Samir Unfortunately, the only people who are able to intervene like this is her family. If she is indeed in this much physical danger (I can't make assumptions about her BMI and all that stuff because I know jack squat about health, other than the very basic stuff), then her family needs to step in and do something. But we can't try and convince them to do that. I hope she isn't in grave danger, but there's just nothing we can do. Even if we all collectively contacted her parents and said "for the love of god, hospitalize your daughter before she dies," it doesn't mean anything if her family doesn't see it as a big deal. And they might be trying everything to help her, we don't know. But there's just nothing anyone can do, except wait to see happens and hope for the best. :/
It's not the family that should entervene, it's the psychiatry. I'm pretty sure they made her have contact with health care, and if she doesn't it's just to call an ambulance and get her in the system. At this weight there is no excuse not to admit her to hospital against her will. If laws like this doesn't exist in America it's a fucking disgrace. So many anorexics would die that could've been saved. When the law passed in Sweden the death rates of anorexia decreades DRAMATICALLY. If you're beneath BMI 14 you don't know what's best for you, that's when they put me into hospital every single time. Otherwise I wouldn't have stopped losing weight until I died, because I was always delusional about the dangers. It's a characteristic of the disease.
Bless you for saying this. I get so frustrated when I try to explain to people that when you're that underweight your brain doesn't work right... I am 5'10" and got down to 70lbs thinking I was FINE and if someone didn't help me I would be dead. Once I was able to start eating and gaining weight back I realized how horrible what I did to myself was and wished someone would have helped me sooner when my head was too sick to keep myself safe.
There you go again, being all ethical, intelligent and well-spoken! :) I hate to say it, but the truth is that you've become people's patron superhero. You are correct, though. 'Ready' cannot be rushed. It can only happen in its own time.
You have no reason, right to to call anybody an immature ignoramus without proof!!!!1!!1!1!!!1! Oh wait. Yes you can. And IonIsFalling7217 has just as much right to call Onision a bridge troll as you do to be dumbass in the comment section of a RU-vid video. Also, you're wrong. Straight to the point, Onision is a massive fucking asshole. He has absolutely no concept of the difference between being mean and being 'brutally honest'. He can't seem to understand that his comments about fat people, self harmers, and mentally ill people are all exceptionally ignorant and harmful. And then, he plays victim in so many situations where he is clearly the one to blame. Greg is a little squirmy maggot and he doesn't deserve your sympathy.
It's just a matter of personal preference in terms of content. Onision's assholish mean style might be seen as harmful by some, but he has helped a lot of people to step up and finally try and do something to solve their problems. It's not the right thing for everyone, however, and that's okay.
Source? To my knowledge, a) no naked pictures, b) it was a fan who started the thread on the forum, c) even after he rolled with it by popular demand, there was no condition anywhere on what type of clothes there has or can't be on the picture. Point being, even though it mostly pains me to defend Onision and even though I don't particularly appreciate those videos, he has done absolutely nothing to encourage anyone to send photos or much less dictate what clothes they can or can't wear. Example - if I send my favourite youtuber a picture of myself in lingerie, not his fault.
She's skinnier than I was when I almost dies from anorexia. The thing with Euginia is she uses it for money. Like that creepy mark who's always asking her to sit and spin. I saw his website and it was disturbing as hell. I'm worried she will die during a live show. I think people have tried to help her for a while now. She just keeps losing more and more weight. Amazing video!
Kitten Ivy That's terrible that you actually think she's using a possible illness for money you apparently don't know much about Eugenia at all but, I can agree, that Mark guy is pretty strange.
AnnziaWolf from what I've seen she really tries to show off her body. When she first started RU-vid she was a normal weight and the more people who watched her the thinner she got. I think the pressure of people watching her all the time may have triggered her and perhaps it's even making her not want to change because everyone is looking at her and her weight. She doesn't seen genuine anymore and often times is intentionally showing off her body so I don't know what to think of her anymore I used to think she was sweet
There's pretty much no limit 2 how skinny U can get without dying. The key is 2 do it slow as a lifestyle thing, not a shock 2 the system. Eventually U will just B a pile of bones. The heart goes last, so it will likely B organ failure of some sort instead. When U lose weight, U don't lose heart muscle. All the other muscle & organs & stuff get eaten first.
i wish Onision would get banned from youtube. His content is absolutely disgusting. He is hurting so many people with his videos and it truly should not be on youtube
Yes convinced many people to get help with his brutal honesty but it's not for everyone. I personally was dealing with depression and cutting and I eventually stumbled upon his videos about it. He was harsh and it was the push I needed to realize maybe I wasn't ok. People being gentle and kind did nothing. Telling me I was still beautiful or whatever just made the issues worse because I thought it was still ok. Just remember everyone has an opinion and sometimes things can be taken the wrong way as well.
The thing that bothers me is that it seems nobody can get help without paying someone. I understand your position, I honestly completely support that you don't want to give anyone advice you're not qualified to give and I believe Eugenia's situation is unique as calling her out for something people don't know for sure is even true is a hard topic. The thing that I don't like is that all of the people on this planet who are looking for help and constantly get turned away or told to go to a doctor or this or that - they basically feel like their hands are tied because maybe they don't have the $$ for recovery or maybe they don't feel comfortable telling their doctor and that's the position I was in for years. I recovered from my eating disorders on my own because I couldn't afford to pay someone for advice so I strongly relied on advice from eating disorder support groups. Then the time when I actually decide to tell my therapist (ADHD therapy) she basically told me she couldn't see me anymore and sent me to another doctor to spend months paying money or help that I couldn't afford. I don't think you need to talk about Eugenia or even respond to the people asking about her because they have decided to call her out and she hasn't commented on it herself. I also understand the legal ramifications of giving advice, so I do understand your position. I just wish there was better quality free care and help for those suffering because it's a very lonely place to be. So I was a little taken aback that you said you know actual professionals who refuse to give advice if they're not treating someone - that feels like maybe they're more interested in the paycheck than the patient. I feel like at this point in time we view health as a privilege and only people who can afford it can get help. I'm American so it's probably even worse from my angle than from other countries who do have free healthcare.
It really has nothing to do with money. I'm currently in my last year for my Bachelor's degree in psychology and I have numerous professors that are licensed clinical psychologists that know me pretty well and they wouldn't be able to give me any kind of help. I have really bad panic attacks and they can't even really offer me any advice to get through them because it would be against the code of ethics and they don't know what works for me and what my background is. If I have a panic attack in class, they have to call security that has to call EMS. They can't deal with it directly even though they might have the training. For a psychologist to go up to her and offer help and advice, it would be like a random doctor coming up to you and going "you know, I think you have diabetes even though I'm not your doctor and I don't have any proof. Here's how to treat it." It's not their place to offer advice when it isn't asked for. They don't know her medical history or any other mental health problems that she may or may not have. It's a legal thing, as well. If they offer advice (which therapists should NEVER EVER give advice under any circumstances) and she follows it and something ends up happening, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen because they gave her their unwarranted opinion in an unprofessional setting. You don't have nurses meeting you in a park to do blood work even though they're physically able to because that wouldn't be appropriate. It would be wrong to do. I do agree that our health system is so messed up. There are free medical clinics, but there aren't really very many free mental health clinics. I'm lucky because my mom is a nurse and works at a hospital that has their own mental health facilities so our copay is only $25 a visit. I also thank God that we're pretty well off because even that gets expensive, as I have a therapist that I see every 2 weeks and a psychiatrist that I see every 1-2 months.
Judging from your profile picture, you're absolutely gorgeous and everyone is so proud of you for recovering! You've been through a lot and I respect you for that. The society does need to work on issues as such. Health is a privilege, but not just in the way of anorexia when it comes to food but to be able to even afford meals. Coming from a third world country, it deeply saddened me to see beggars asking for food who hadn't eaten in days. I try to feel their hunger and pain by fasting. Yesterday, I had done so for 25 hours but I didn't have enough food so I barely ate anything and I'm already beginning to feel the pain. It doesn't help when you do physical activity either, like I beat older and stronger people, but without food and drink, it was very hard to function. Well, food is life!
It's a slippery slope when people ask for advice, even from an eating disorder specialist, via email or phone call, because they don't know their medical history. They need to see them in person and review their medical history and possibly run tests and perform an exam so that they can make an educated decision on what the best course of action is for that patient. Great video as always!
Tieia Middleton This is true, especially if someone is really underweight and not eating as if they suddenly start eating that can also be extremely dangerous, cause electrolyte imbalances and heart attacks. Medical supervision is essential
You are such a beautiful soul. It is so refreshing to see someone who is actually concerned, responsible, and professional in making videos on any subject, let alone one so very important. Thank you for your honesty and compassion.
I hope it's okay to add that she might have a different illness and, whether or not she does, many people have shown little to no respect for her medical privacy. Speaking from my personal experience with low weight due to a physical illness (rather than a mental one, which is equally valid) comments from people trying to help or make a spectacle of me did not help my physical nor my mental health. I really appreciate how you handled this topic. I found this channel recently, and from what I've seen, really respect this channel as well as this community.
Well articulated, reasonable, empathetic, and down to earth explanation. RU-vid needs more people like you Mia, congrats on your experience, insight, and intellect.
Thank you for this🙌🏻 I find Eugenia extremely triggering and the whole topic of her very frustrating. She's very sweet but I personally can't deal with the attention around her and people thinking it's an easy fix (for something that she may not even have). Thank you for always saying things, perfectly
I so agree with you! I cant stand her... It really bothers me to see that most of her followers are 11, 13 y.o. girls! Young girls that adore her and some even comment they're trying to be as"beautiful and thin" as her. She has too much of control on these young minds. And speaking about minds, it is awful to see that Eugenia cant even hold a normal conversation anymore. She repeats herself over and over, sais *cool* every other word and her voice is getting higher pitched by the week. She's really starting to lose her mental habilities... Our brain needs to be nurtured with food too. No food, our muscles start to "eat" themselves, bones get bent, and our brain gets on *save* *power* mode and down to basic functions. :(
Eugenia doesn't really have control over anyone and for an example, I found Eugenia's RU-vid channel when I was 13 but, I've only ever seen her as a kind person with a cool style, I'm 16 now but, I've never felt the need to lose weight because of Eugenia and I think it's just so messed up that some people try so hard to blame Eugenia for their own problems.
AnnziaWolf that's personal experience tons of girls have commented on her videos saying how they want to look and be like her some are even starving themselves to look like her. Kids are impressionable don't forget
I agree with what you are saying here. I also believe there's so much going wrong on her channel beyond her weight. I don't know if her judgement (or lack thereof) is a product of a starving brain or some other medical or emotional issue. Occasionally I will watch a few mins of her younows, and it's frightening how she is, in my opinion, being manipulated and down right abused esp by some of her young male viewers. That "spinning" nonsense that certain guys get her to do...I don't even know what to say about that, except that SOMEONE in her immediate real life world needs to protect her. I think she's like 22yr old, but sure seems naive and not developmentally ready for adulthood. It makes me sad that we the viewers, who truly do want the best for her, will never be in a position to help her. It's just the fact of the situation. I don't know anything about you tube other than I watch it, but if it did have some way to protect her, then I wish they would. Otherwise, I just hope and pray someone who loves her in her immediate circle can take some action soon to prevent any further harm to her. It's very hard tho to be a viewer/bystander, and helpless to help someone who clearly needs it.
Finally someone who say it like it is. Like yeah you said, her recovery (if she really does need it) is her choice. You're very strong Mia and I think the people who are messaging you and making videos should take a page out of your book! Very well done to you and a great video.
It's also frustrating and discouraging to see how much attention she gets because she's thin. That's the only evidence of an eating disorder (that I've been made aware of) and people see it as the whole illness. Underweight is just a symptom of a deeper problem and the people criticizing only see emaciation and forget how many people suffer and are not as thin as her.
it's so true, and often it makes it more difficult for us who struggle to get help especially when it comes to comments like "Well, you don't look like you have an eating disorder". People just don't understand.
I used to be a fan of hers and I started to notice her appearance change not just by being "skinny". If you look at her older videos her voice has changed to the point where it is nearly unrecognizable and her teeth are now a rounded shape which they weren't before (it is a sign of bulimia) and also the way she speaks she seems to have fewer words in her vocabulary than what she had let's say 3 or 4 yrs ago. I know that I am in no right to tell her to get help and it is very sad to see so many people in her comments who will just make things worse. I just wish people will realize that nothing that they are doing will help her; the only way for her to get help is by herself. I really hope she does sooner or later due to her circumstances. I have watched some of her recent younows and she tends to look very tired and seems to not have much energy.
Thank you for making this video in a very considerate way. I really respect you for addressing topics that could be difficult to address with a friends or even family members. Keep on making these videos, you are helping so many people including myself. You are going a great thing here.
Despite the dwindling mental health resources in the u.k., I would like to think that if things got so bad I was cutting myself everyday, or standing on a ledge....or otherwise endangering myself, that there would be a medical intervention and I get hospitalised. The same with EC's stage of "alledged" eating disorder....perhaps she isnt fit and well enough for recovery and needs to be in a hospital. The fact I am using the word alleged is astounding to me. If I were that ill, I would want to be sectioned....bearing in mind, if I were that ill, I would be self isolating and rejecting help. It really is up to the family. I know you have to want recovery...but what if your near death, y8ur brain is starved and you cant make that decision?
One thing that I have to keep on learning through my recovery is that I am the only one that can save myself. That no one is going to swoop in and save myself from my demons. Also, I just want to take a moment to thank you. I'm glad that I found a channel that talks about EDs so openly and well. Also, your videos did (and still does) definitely help me to really receive help.
More people need to watch this and really fully internalize what you said. We can love and support people who we think are ill but that’s really all we can do
You are so right, you can't give someone advice because we all go through different things and different things help. People are just making videos about her to get money. You are an inspiration to me ❤ Much love
Totally respect how you've decided to handle this difficult situation. And even though you did this under protest, since you took the time to explain all your reasons, this is an excellent opportunity for everyone (myself included) to reassess the reality of what can be done & how.
I think we can't help Eugenia and it's not our place to control her life. We have to understand that her presence on RU-vid has a large impact on her decisions. She is judged harshly every day and tries her best to avoid bringing up her private life so that there isn't more material for others to criticize. She's not comfortable opening up about the alleged eating disorder and I can empathize with that. I honestly think being on the internet in the limelight puts a lot of pressure on her and it's unhealthy. But it's also a big part of her life which isn't easy to part with. The friends, fans, persona, habits, support, are all on social media where she feels in her element. And I think she feels cornered by the increasing hate. With Onision and other RU-vidrs making accusations, being offensive, trying to prove a point about Eugenia, that's clearly not helping her. If anything, it will make her feel like she's under a microscope by people who don't care about her as a person. She doesn't want to give Onision the satisfaction. Her mental health is not entertainment. It's not something we should toy with or bet on.
I’m very late but I 100% agree! Perhaps if she didn’t have a popular channel on RU-vid she would share her possible disorder, at least with her family and friends, because the fear of being judged would no longer been there. I like some of Onision’s videos, but the fact that he’s started making more and more videos about a person who is clearly struggling (whether or not it is with an eating disorder) kind of made me stop watching him.
I want to subscribe but I'm terrified of any family members seeing any ED related stuff on my phone otherwise they'll make fun of me but this channel is amazing, thank you :)))))
Thank you for making this video. I think sometimes the hardest thing we can do is be with our own distressful feelings of experiencing a sense of helplessness in the face of someone we wish we could help. You're exactly right, Eugenia needs to be ready herself, and it needs to come from her.
i wont finish this video because its a year old and i pretty much know what youre going to say (bc its def what i would say and what many others have said) but knowing now that Eugenia has finally gotten the help she needs makes me excited for her to recover. im excited to hear about her journey, to see her change and advocate the way you have. or even to retire from social media if it is what she needs. just to know that she is no longer at deaths door, and is on the path to recover is something that makes me feel warm inside. especially after yearning for so long for her to listen to her fans and the people in her life begging her to get help.
This is a great video. Very well done and respectful there needs to be more people addressing this topic in the same dialogue you're creating, thank you!
Completely and utterly get what you're saying and am with you 100%. To be honest most people just don't get it and even the most well intentioned 'help' is futile if the the person isn't 'ready' to get well. They have to reach their 'rock bottom' and 'helping' someone before they're ready can even have an adverse effect, to the point of enabling them to continue. We are powerless over others and must let them find their own way.
Thank you so much for making this video. I have the exact same thoughts on the issue, and it's bothered me so much to see people's comments begging her to get help. I think a lot of it could be people's ignorance/misunderstanding of eating disorders. Thank you so much for your insight. I think channels like yours are so important in educating people about eating disorders and mental health.
Layla W The problem is that it's a mental illness, and we have no idea what's going on behind closed doors. It's no one's business but Eugenia's, her family's, and her close friends'. It's difficult to see, but eating disorders aren't something where you just get help and recover immediately. Even with help it can take years to fully recover.
Nikki G RU-vid is her source of income. If she were to get help, she would need insurance to help pay (and some insurance companies don't pay for much, so a lot of it is out-of-pocket). If she stopped doing RU-vid right now, her source of income would also be gone. That would make it a tad more difficult to have the insane amount of money necessary to pay for treatment. If she needed hospital or inpatient treatment, she would need to have insurance and the money insurance wouldn't cover. Also: It could be that making RU-vid videos is an outlet for her and something she enjoys. Stopping it could make the problem worse. Just food for thought. It's not as simple as "We'll just stop watching her videos and she'll stop making them and then she'll get better." If it were that simple, no one would need therapy or hospitalization or inpatient for eating disorders in the first place. It's a mental illness. Not something she can just snap out of.
I, too am a survivor of a 20 year ED and have been recovered for 11 years. I applaud you for being so responsible with your words... As much as we want to help others, recovery is only truly possible when a person wants it for themselves. Oh, do I wish I could take those 20 years back! Congratulations on your recovery!!
The sad thing about all this tho is that we are all seeing her decline quickly , I hope she gets help before it's too late. The only thing I have to say about her parents is maybe they should take her offline for a while, I don't think the Internet is benefiting her at all.
Yes, yes, yes!!! shanaalove, it sucks to watch someone dying in front of our eyes! Why won't the authorities do something?? I've been locked up for less...
... I find this whole thing with Eugenia really profoundly horrifying. She seems like a really nice person and I'm afraid all of this internet stuff is going to push her into despair more and make it more difficult for her to deal with whatever she has going on.
And now, two years later she has gone to an eating disorder recovery program not on her own prompting and is now back on social media and apologizing every other sentence to the millions of people watching her who are calling her "healthy" or ignoring her losing weight again and/or pointing it out constantly! It's so sick and so sad and I wish she had privacy and a close support network. I hope she recovers, she deserves to be happy and love herself. As we all do.
I agree with you so much on this. she can get better unless she herself wants to. she's doesn't feel ready and yes it is very sad and scary. we don't know everything that's going on in her life.
You are correct in all respects. I had a client drop rapid weight in the classes I was teaching. She ate grapefruit and oatmeal..one meal per day and said "I feel fine!!" We went out to lunch; her treat. She said she eats a meal now and then... She asked me many questions..about me. But she was not looking to be helped because she feels just fine. Until they hit some wall.. we can pray. Sickness does not let you out of its grasp. Bless be.
Wow, amazing video! Never saw anyone seeing things from that angle. I never commented on videos about or by her but I'm one of those people who is concerned about her health. I never did because I felt like it was not my place to do so, but I never really formulated exactly why and you did it very well.
I really understand what you're saying, especially about the qualifications part, but people can give good advice by being just that. People. Being humane. It goes both ways, I think.
I have never seen your videos before... you are so well spoken and display such integrity, honesty and insight. i love that YOU demonetized this video in order to just clear up some facts. I will be checking out more of your channel.
Didn't even know her before this! I hope she'll get better before it's too late. Also I really hope she'll consider how dangerous her content is to young girls. Internet is a difficult place to navigate. You are doing great, love you!
I would say self harm and eating disorders are very similar. I used to self harm years ago. At first no one knew, and then slowly a few people found out. They tried to help me, gave me 'encouraging words' and all of that. I was the most depressed I'd ever been and nothing of what they said got to me. Of course, I cared that they cared, I wished I cared about what I was doing, but I was honestly blind. I wasn't thinking about the scars, I wasn't trying to kill myself by self harming; I was doing it because I didn't know of any other way to deal with the stress in that period of my life. I was young and didn't know how. At that point, I didn't even want to get better. I was so done with feeling empty and nothing but dullness, and that was an escape for me. The few people in my life who knew really were trying their best to help, and I wished I could do it for them, but I couldn't. And then my mom found out. I remember that day very well, it would be easier to never think about it again, but I can still feel it. It was the winter time and so it was normal to wear long sleeves, I wore them all of the time to hide them. On the weekends I was staying in a house with terrible groggy energy, which made me feel even worse. My mom came to pick me up and she brought a jacket she wanted me to try on. I became so frightened, I felt like I was going to throw up and I could hardly say a word. She asked me if I self harmed, and I began to ball my face off. She gave me a hug and told me it was going to be alright. She told me that she almost knew from when I was a baby that this might happen. I had an issue with stress when I was a kid and I would tear my hair out in chunks, it was bad. Anyway. She was understanding, she had an eating disorder while I was growing up. She didn't talk to me like everyone else was talking to me. They were saying things like, "Please, never do it again." Which drove me insane. My mom knew that to stop, you had to want it yourself. That helped me so much to realise that I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life. I knew my mom would help me find ways to deal with my stress, and I felt much more calm. I didn't stop completely after that, however. I stopped on my arms, but went to my legs. It only lasted possibly a week, and then I stopped all of it. Even when I stopped, I didn't throw away what I was using. It was out of sight, however. I knew it would bother me and somehow make me think I needed it, and so I didn't throw it away until two years later. I have never promised to not do it again, I can't make that promise. But, I have been almost three years clean, and I am so proud of myself for it. I had to want it myself, and that's a powerful thing to realise.
Thank goodness for a video about Eugenia Cooney that is not judgemental, not someone trying to get views and subscribers, and not someone who is dishing out endless advice and opinions when they don't have 1) any qualification to do so 2) they have never met the girl in their life. IF Eugenia is poorly then I really hope she manages to get the help she needs and achieve happiness, but for now people need to stop hassling her and making videos about her. At the end of the day, we haven't got a clue what goes on in her life and how she lives each day WE DO NOT KNOW HER! We see short little snippets of her life that she decides to post so please people stop trying to interfere with this girls life. I know a lot of people do care and are doing it with good intentions but it could honestly make things worse. And those that do it for, views subscribers and just to generally be nasty from behind the 'safety' of their screen...well you are going to live very miserable and unfulfilling lives.
I absolutely agree with you. Unless you’re ready for recovery it will end back to square one. I suffered from anorexia and recovered, this has been followed with disordered eating. It’s true one can only save oneself. It’s about changing mindset. If you can’t do that then change is impossible.
3 hour commute round trip, holy hell girl! I hope you find a nice apartment soon, because that's a lot! Also, nice coverage of this topic. I wish more people would see (and more importantly, actually HEAR) this message.
No one really knows what's up with Eugenia AND she isn't making anyone do anything. You don't see an obese person then, suddenly decide you want to get fatter.. the world doesn't work that way.
AnnziaWolf watch her most recent outfit video... she’s skinny to the point she’s literally skin and bone. Her clothing is barely staying up, both are problems, but she needs the help to the point she talked badly about her looking healthy in old modeling photos
CheekyLittleBliker I've been watching Eugenia's videos for years now, I know what she looks like. I don't know why you want to assume she was talking badly about how much "healthier" she looked because ANYONE can feel embarrassed about old pictures.. I know I do. Eugenia doesn't need help from strangers over the internet so, I don't know why some people seem so desperate to be some kind of hero who "saved Eugenia's life" :/
my recovery was forced. well not really forced but i wasnt ready to recover yet. i was put on heavy antipsychotics for bipolar which made me start eating again but compulsively. my appetite increased astronomically and my mind was foggy so i wasnt mentally there to restrict. gaining so much weight in such a short period of time when i was not ready to recover caused me so much psychological damage. i felt so out of control. so even though im eating again i still never recovered properly. and i have never ever felt recovered or satisfied with my eating. so if eugenia starts to recover just because other people keep pressuring her you can imagine how psychologically damaging that could be
No one can help her besides HER. She knows there is something not healthy going on but as we have seen she does not want to talk about or deal with it. As with any mental illness, you can't force someone to get help. As for the witch hunt that goes around that is not going to help her. I at this point am just very nice to her because she is genuine sweet girl. i just hope she gets help for whatever issue she has. Being mean is just going to have her go deeper into her disorder because it's the only thing she can control.
I have SO much respect for how ethical and "professional" you are! You are such an inspiration and so amazing. You seem so brutally honest and humble in your platform and I admire that! I know I am a stranger but I am proud of you bc I KNOW the journey youve traveled hasnt been an easy one...
Your honesty is refreshing...and probably rare in today's world where everyone thinks they know, understand and are qualified! Unless your trained and certified you should not be giving advice to someone that is sick emotionally, physically or mentally...
100% that the only person who can help her is herself, which I do hope happens for her. As you said we have no idea what's going on, we only see what she wants.
to those who's suffering from anorexia or any type of eating disorder I wanna tell you something . I had been through anorexia for about a year and within a year I lost everything , not just my weight ( my youthfulness , my period , my athletic abilities , my strength , my creativity , my happiness , my love for food , my friends and so on ) I came to understand that anorexia is not beautiful and it will also not make you , your body and your life beautiful. But you know what's beautiful? Eating whenever you are hungry , hanging out with friends enjoying pizzas , playing your favorite sports , being you and gaining your life back .
Nicely said video! I agree that only she can save herself but its super disheartening and I understand why people continue to try to "help" and say things. Do you think her channel benefits from her issue though, or that she is aware that it's bringing views to her videos? I think that troubles some people about it too...
Families that want to keep their children sick do exist. You can’t say that her family is helping her with such confidence cause like you said you’re not in that home. You don’t know that but you seem confident that her family MUST be helping her
I think people think because I'm a "mum" in recovery from anorexia I should help her. They don't understand I've not only had the illness for 23 years of my life but 8 of those are in recovery and I'm still RECOVERING. xx I'm not a nasty person. But all the messages I get make me feel guilty. Because I cant help her and help myself. Where does it end? I help her then I've got a ton of them wanting help, and me being triggered all the time. I cant do it. And really I think its unthinking of people to ask recovering people of ed to help others particularly when they think I can "make her sense". I cant. She has to. Like I did with my own eyes and brain. Just like everyone else in recovery has had to do that themselves. Xx
I will say though (and forgive me I'm going through very old videos on my watch later list) that in some cases you really DON'T need to be a professional to see something is wrong with someone and I would say she was 100% one of those people even before the hospitalization happened and the truth came out. That being said, yes, I wouldn't say we're qualified to help her because if we were then we'd probably have helped her out by now. She's even sick again after being released from the program. But I am only saying this to point out that we can't just say we don't know something is wrong with someone if it is obvious. There was a small chance that it was something else (of course that Schrödinger situation no longer applies), but regardless it was absolutely apparent to everyone that she was not well.
This was a wise and honest video. I wish more people wouldn’t assume, shame, advise and complain. For me, if someone asks me for advice, I give it FROM MY EXPERIENCE and from there I encourage them to seek professional help. If they are willing, I will go with them, help them find help, etc. I pray for people. I feel it is powerful and doesn’t do damage. NEVER JUDGE A STORM YOU HAVEN’T WEATHERED. 💕
You hit that nail right on the head. She definitely needs help but she has to admit she has a problem. Thanks for this though. She needs to see this for herself so she knows people are actually concerned.
I must admit I have had thoughts that her mother should do more and that she is part of the reason for her anorexia. I feel terrible for making this judgement now. Great video
You are very impressive. We all have struggles and blockades but the ability to come out with such grace and wisdom is wonderful to see. Yes, you do have both grace and wisdom so hush yourself. We can all use more of that and it has been a pleasure to learn the things I have from listening to you. May you be well and ridiculously happy. Gillian
The one thing they teach you when doing things such as social work is that you can only help those who want to help themselves. If people try to help her before she’s ready it’s only going to make it worse.
