I hate to break this to anyone, but its relatively easy to reflow and even completely replace surface mount chips, if you have a hot air station. They cost like $40....
If you don't have the time/patience or you don't think it's cost effective to repair these, don't throw them away. Give them to someone who is willing to spend the time to repair them. You're throwing away a small part of history.
AndehX Not really. There's millions of SNES console's around. Plus I used all the shells and other parts to replace broken parts and pieces for other console's.
This is so ridiculous, if you can't fix something it doesn't mean its garbage, unless you know a component is bad then a the parts on that board could be useful. It could be that you find a working cpu on another broken board. Do not listen to this, these consoles will be gone soon if people think of them this way.
it's just best recycled, just emulate. get a PC, and put batocera or something on it, and get adapters so you can plug snes or nes controllers to it and also plug it to your CRT tv, and you can play many of the retro games on 1 system.
Now these are about $200. But they are still hard as hell to keep working. I have the old toaster nes, original GBC kiwi and Red advanced SP. Other then that. I use a retro trio 3 plus. And also have a retron 5. So cartridges can still be played and tested. For nes, snes, sega gen, GB, GBC, GB advanced.
Thia sucks. I got into console repair last year and started with snes. I realized very quickly that out of the dozen or so I bought, the majority had black screens and I rules out dirty connectors. The early snes chip designs suck royally and I hope we get a replacement soon.
You can fix anything. The question becomes a matter of time and money. With millions of these consoles produced worldwide, we aren't in danger of running out at the moment. With that said, I do try to save them if I can.
aphexteknol When the SNES is worth $200 a console then I'd put more effort into a serious problem such as VRAM, CPU or PPU issues. But for now basic reflow, board cleaning, component cleaning, recaps and cosmetic issues are cost effective repairs.
Cost Effectiveness starts at the beginning. Simply understanding the problem, and doing your research.. Will stop you from blindly throwing good parts in the trash.. or blindly swapping parts to see what's good and bad.. wasting time, and parts. - Pull a signal. Understand what you're looking at.
You just need a mircroscope, and a decent soldering iron or a hot air station for those chips. I replace surface mount components on cellphone boards, which are much smaller. Just need a bit of practice.
Sly Ds Not worth the investment since these systems aren't worth that much and are a dime a dozen. I'd just be swapping out used parts for other used parts since you can't get anything on these boards anymore except for the VRAM and video encoder.
@@SneedusWeenus hahahahah i've just had the exact same thought 2 years later after buying a snes jr for a hundred bucks, but hey, it works as hard and good as a hooker on saturday night
If you have any parts boards, you can EASILY swap chips out and fix these SNES’. Learn to swap chips using chipquik. Easy with just a little practice. Don’t listen to this nonsense.
I often see the debate of who won the 16 bit war Nintendo OR Sega it is a debate that will never truly end. As for long term durability however Sega is the hands down winner. The significantly higher durability of the Hardware as well as the over all easier to repair components makes this a landslide victory in this particular aspect of there war.
BRIAN WALKER Not 100% true. The Sega Game Gear and Model 1 Sega CD are both plagued with leaking capacitors, the Master System was better on paper when compared to the NES, but it was built using bad plastics and had poorly made Controllers. Nintendo did make very solid Hardware that continues to last. If anything the Genesis itself along with its accessories are examples of Sega's efforts to complete with Nintendo. It's built just as good as the SNES and gave Nintendo real competition. I think the issues with the SNES were more down to manufacturing issues with who ever Nintendo used to make their chips. The technology was new back then and it was probably difficult to manufacture quad flat package chips that small and in such quantity. The rotting plastic issue was probably down to just poor understanding of proper bromine mixture.
I was just comparing Genesis an SNES durability. Your right about other consoles. It feels like pretty much every game gear has a cap or 10 go bad eventually for example.
It's easy to remove and replace smd parts you just buy a few not working snes's and trouble shoot them when a multi meter oscilloscope and use the good parts ! It is also very easy for anyone to use a heat gun and solder paste or a fine soldering iron and solder and a magnifying glass and flux that has learned electronics in the 21 century ! Just because you can only do threw hole soldering and not surface mount soldering doesn't mean you should throw them out and not use the for parts ! Also companies are never going to switch back to threw hole because it has to be done by hand where as surface mound can be done faster and cheaper by machines not to mention it's better for miniaturization ! So yes threw hole is easer repair but surface mount is not impossible or even that hard and you don't nead expensive tools like a reflow table a toster oven a timer and a digital temperature sensor will do for doing many chips at once and a heat gun and solder braid and tweezers to remove and solder past resin flux and a heat gun to install for a few chips and fine tip and solder wire gage with flux core tacking the corners first then draging a conical tip that has been tinned with solder with lots of flux first and some tweezers and a magnifying glass and good lighting for one chip ! Also you can find work and video ram online but you have to salvage spare CPU's PPU's and SPU's from other snes or sfc mother boards ! Now what is really hard is replacing the ball grid aray instead of land grid stay or pin grid aray on PS 3 and ps4 it does require a reflow oven and time since there are not just pins on all sides in a tiny gage but hundreds of solder balls in a grid instead of pins on the chip or the motherboard like easy to replace PC's !
The most common problem I’ve found with SHVC-CPU-01 SNES boards is that they go RF-only, where you don’t get video out of the multi-AV. It’s extremely common.
@@emmettturner9452 I figured out that one of the legs on the 2nd through-hole capacitor from the multi-out port wasn't making a connection and barely had any solder on it, so I put new solder and it works fine now.
Something to note. As long as it gets clean power and the controller ports work, you can still use it with the Retrobit Genesis and NES adapters as they are basically entire console on a cartridge and bypass the PPU, and Sound Chip. I have Thunderforce 3 playing on a dead SNES that can do little more than show a red light otherwise.
Basically, the real console is on the cartridge and it is only pulling power from the AC adapter and communicating with the control pads through the cart slot. Everything else on the SNES can basically be dead. CPU might need to work though, simply to pass the signals from the cart slot to the game pads. You can entirely take out the Sound Chip and it makes no difference at all. VRAM and PPU probably don't matter either.
I have been trying to figure out why my SNES (SHVC-CPU-01) fails to play Pacman 2: The New Adventures properly, even trying multiple copies. Every other game I have plays just fine. Guessing one of the custom Nintendo components is going out. .
I picked one up that has now blown two fuses. I can't figure out why. It powered up once when I first bought it, so I moved it to another room to hook it up to the TV, and nothing. Checked the fuse: blown. Replaced it with a new one, turned it on, nothing. Checked fuse: blown. The board is otherwise immaculate.
The motherboards to these consoles are made of materials almost as cheap as the shells. Once they start to decay, you will see problems like this. At that point they are trash.
Need help with an issue - Just recently replaced/soldered a new power port (old skool) for my Super Nintendo. After I did this, it erased all my saved data on Super Mario World and Super Mario All-Stars. Both batteries in both cartridges are fine - this issue only starting happening after I replaced the power port. Thanks for any help!
@@RobertNES816 Thanks a lot for the quick reply Robert. I’ve enjoyed your videos. The solder that I did for the power port looks pretty good, even redid it to make sure. How exactly do I check for shorts? Excuse my ignorance.
*He doesn't fix complicated issues like replacing surface mounted chips because it isn't financially feasible; at least at the time of this video; today might be a different story. There I fixed it for you.
I have a problem (launch model SNES) that if I leave it on for about an hour or two, it freezes to a black screen. However, if I put in a cheap SUPERUFO with roms on it, it doesn't freeze. Any idea what is going on?
Test your power supply to see if its putting out around 10 to 13 volts after 2 hours. If the voltage is under 10 volts the power supply will need to be replaced. The other issue could be capacitors that are drying up. Or it could be the save files from your superufo could be messing with the save files in your games causing the console to freeze when it needs to access the save files.
Also one more thing is that its possible the Superufo has a wider board then an original SNES cartridge. If this is the case then the pins on the SNES console could be bent out a bit more then they're supposed to be which would cause a poor connection with the cartridge.
These consoles were made in China, Thailand, Japan and I think Korea. It didn't matter where they were made as they all used the same plastics and basically the same parts or parts of the same or similar spec. Sega and Nintendo only used good quality parts regardless of the country in which these systems were made in.
+gerot201 Are you kidding me? The Master System was big on specs for its time, but it was built like crap! The model 1 SMS console itself was fine. But the controllers and Arcade Stick were absolute junk. The NES in comparison was down on specs but it was an overall better made console with much better controllers and an Arcade Stick that was built like a tank. The Genesis fixed much of the issues that the SMS had with poorly made controllers and accessories.
The clone systems like retron 2 and 3 not 5 and Gamerz Tek SNES are a cheaper option then getting Scammed on eBay for a yellowed SNES. This guy wanted like 200 bucks for a yellowed SNES because he had the box.
That isn't a scam. A scam is when someone sells you an SNES on eBay but you instead receive a brick in the mail and a photo of someone's middle finger.
I do micro electronic repair the last 2 years. Microscope, heat station, oscilloscope, multimeters, bench PSU etc. I would never let this guy attempt to repair anything of mine. The way he handles the boards. Roughest most careless I've ever seen on RU-vid. No offense Robert. Tiny components break off/legs of chips come off pads (that you will have no knowledge of it happening) with this kind of handling & attitude.
I just got mine in reverse polarity yesterday on my bench power supply (part of the fault being mine for not paying too much attention and the other part for nintendo marking with a line the negative wire instead of the positive one) and now the sound is gone, what is likely to have fried for the sound be gone? I have another one here with a dead cpu for spare parts
You probably blew a cap by the audio circuit or maybe the audio chips themselves. If it's an older SNES try to source a new audio board it plugs into the main board.
@@RobertNES816 no it's a newer one, I managed to put it to work again using a jump wire but it was just mono, but messed it up and now it doesn't work again.
@@RobertNES816 that's the problem, I couldn't find any pin out for these chips and a board diagram that i've found didn't help that much too, maybe i'm just not searching well enough so I will just do it the old way
If its a custom made Sega chip then no, however Sega did make their own version of the Z80 on early model 2 consoles. If you have the right equipment then you can swap it out for a Zlog Z80 CPU. But its very rare for a Z80 to fail on these systems.
Hello.There is maybe a solution for these problems.It won't be easy but the old SNES clones (from 90's) are use not original chips.So china can make them.They are make these right now! Just look inside the Retro Duo or Retro Trio the FC twin etc.They are all using the same chips. The TCT ones.I think they can be a pretty good replaclement.They are not cheap sadly because you need to buy a console to get the damn chips but they are here.Here is the inside: i.imgur.com/IeEKMJA.png
That's allot of trouble and costs to go through just to repair a $40 console. I mean the time it would take to just swap the chips around wouldn't even be worth it.
Well i bought a SNES last weekend for that price.I'm pretty sure auctions will pop up on ebay from sellers who are try to sell clone console with no cables or anything
SRAM and VRAM go bad more often. Bad Sram will result in a black sreen, a failing CPU will result in some graphics modes not working and causing the game to hang. PPU's I've found have issues with cracked solder joints which can be repaired.
You also got to realize how old that thing is It's over 20 years old It ain't like it was just made yesterday or a year ago It's not really junk it's just that it's very old and you can use parts from other motherboards to put in to another motherboard if you have time but if you don't you could just throw them in the trash like you did I guess I just don't think you care about Nintendo very much for some reason
All my other 20-30 year old consoles work perfectly fine and have strong plastic. SNES consoles were just badly designed, and are probably Nintendo's weakest(physically) and least reliable console.
@@inputfunny But still I wouldn't have thrown it away the way you did It's still Good to put it in another console Just doesn't seem that you care about Nintendo much Nintendo is one of consoles ever made I've never had one do that and break that easy You must have been really rough on it or something I'm just being honest I've never seen it done that away in my lifetime I've been planning on them since I was a kid
