Why I wont buy another Saleen Mustang - Flying Wheels 

A Mustang enthusiast knows the difference between a ROUSH or Saleen and a regular Mustang

I did my first car flip this week. Bought it for $600 put $250 into it and sold it for $1900. lots of work but im on my way .

I took a drink everytime Craig said "Saleen" woke up on Oak Island 3 days later and I found the money pit...

I wonder if Cars and Bids would be a good match since it’s a unique car.

I guarantee you that every single person that has low-balled you and acted like they don't know what a Saleen is, would turn around and try to flip it for more than you're asking because it's sUpEr RaRe!!!!!!1!!!!!!1!111!!!!

Keep it for yourself. You bought it; enjoy it! Drive it to work and let it attract people to the lot. I'd be proud to own something like that.

Honestly, the Saleen Mustangs of this generation are some of my favorites-I find the styling rather subtle, especially compared to what can be seen today with these "specialty" sorts of cars (for example, look at what Mansory or Hennessey or even Brabus will do to vehicles). I know those comparisons are in a somewhat different league from what Saleen does, but it's a similar concept. Now as for the depreciation/sales side of it, yes, since most people won't even know what the hell they're looking at it would be a very hard car to try and sell. If I were to buy one of these it would 100% be to drive, not to flip or sell in any way

2 words...niche market. Owned a 2003 Jack Roush Classic, #35 of 50 built. Talk about a depreciating asset. Went in to buy a Terminator, should've stuck to my guns and bought the Termi instead. An instant classic nowadays; "specialty" cars, not so much. Too much cloning going on doesn't help resale either. Never again.

Next time list it on BaT - Bring A Trailer 👍🏼

Several Saleen message boards. Could've gotten the asking price there.

Any true Mustang fan would know what that car is. You had too many people who don't know what they are looking at. I wanted one back in the day when they came out but couldn't afford it at that time.

Sold mine within the week and i was asking around what it was worth. Had a lot of people interested and most knew what it was. It was one of the fastest selling cars i have ever sold. If marketplace will not let you put the full price in, change the make and model to other and type in what it is and you can put whatever price you want while keeping it under the cars category. This will probably not work if you list it as a dealer.

Why didn't send it to Barrett-Jackson or Mecum auctions? I think that was where your buyers would be found.

The title,is misleading. It should be What I learned about selling high value, rare vehicles. The title implies issues with Salween, they’re great, just a poor,fit,for a roadside dealer.

Seems to me the place to sell this for market value would be a Saleen owners group. A specialty car needs to be in front of that crowd.

If u put it on eBay it will be gone in 2 weeks for 25k, if it has the right mileage..It’s been molested with lambo doors brought back to stock with unpainted hinges, I’m a saleen buyer but I would never buy an early s197 saleen it’s the worst body style and engine combination, also anyone that put lambo doors on that car doesn’t know how to care for a saleen and taints it’s history, saleen buyers r very particular being that they r specialty cars and bring premium prices...

I have financed three Saleen Mustang ‘s. My first one, an 89 fox body was through Wells Fargo. My second one, an 02 N/A was through a credit union. My third one, a 2007 extreme was also through a credit union. I simply used the NADA guide To show cost and value as well as a letter/ phone call to/from Saleen verifying that it was a Saleen Mustang. SALEEN can verify their cars by the vin, even though the vin reading shows whatever model mustang they used to build the SALEEN. It is a little bit of a pain because it’s not necessarily straightforward on financing as well as insurance. If you know what the vehicles are they are well worth it. You can also advertise on the marketplace by putting in the description what you actually want to charge for the vehicle, at least that’s what I’ve seen people do. You could also advertise these vehicles, I’m assuming Rauch as well on the SALEEN forums and SALEEN Facebook pages. It’s amazing how fast these cars get scooped up. Hope this helps and whoever purchased it will probably be pretty happy.

No offense, I’ve been watching your videos for a few weeks now, but after your last video last week about the TURD new edge Mustang (with the SALEEN stuff on it) at auction, and you had no idea that it was nothing more than a junk turd (you even BIDDED on it....lol) You have no clue what you’re talking about when it comes to Mustangs/Saleens. You’re obviously marketing this car incorrectly. Move on, nothing to see here regarding Mustangs, and Saleens.

it's hard to sell as it isn't a keeper/collector...the one you bought has been messed with and has miles ,lambo doors removed...sort of hackey.. A 26K mile 2008 281SC sold on BAT for $26K a few months ago. This car was similar to the 456GTA you had....no one wants a meh quality collector car CRAIG....again not trolling you ,just giving you honest,reliable feedback

My bet flip was a 2004 Tacoma single cab I bout for 200$ from a drug addict had flat tire and no brakes put 500 into for tires and brakes it sold for $4000 a week later my phone was blowing up

Basically flying wheels did not do his homework. Saleen is high end and a collector car. He could not flip the car and make money. He should keep the car, in time value will go up. And if he did some real research might learn more about these collector cars. He won't admit to his mistake.

Awesome video and insight as to how to handle specialty vehicles. A lot of good content and education to be had if people would learn to listen instead of running their keyboards.😂

Very informative 👍

So this is why you don’t want my yenko 😂😂😜😜

I’ll give you 22k for it.. I just sold a yellow one with 19k miles for 38k

Btw, books as a modified Mustang GT. Saleen doesn't do anything to the VIN.

You really can't sell used specialty cars through the same channels that you sell a run of the mill Jeep wrangler. If you truly want to sell, sites like cars and bids or bring a trailer is the place to sell these types of specialty vehicles. Cars and bids especially since this mustang is newer and the buyers there are specifically looking for modern performance cars. Those buyers know what it is and cars and bids will help write the ad to appeal to those specific buyers. Most cars like this I see sell well above average on cars and bids. Good luck.

Got to love Facebook marketplace super ultra rare car, sorry msrp back in 63 is 3k best I can do is let you list it for half that. PS5 msrp 500 sure you can list it for 5 grand no problem.

I absolutely love this car. Was infatuated by it in middle school when it came out. Absolutely gorgeous car

My saleen sc was a killer car. Stored it every winter. Took forever to sell it. Had 21 k miles on it. Cherry car. I miss it. Top speed I hit was 165mph.

Bro you need be more Patient,one day you will sell it with a good Profit,some Cars just sell after a 10years with a good Profit...DONT PUT A PRICE ON IT...

I think you overstate the GT500 availability. AutoTrader shows a little over 700 new and used nationwide. I get your point that Saleen's are more rare. New GT500's are selling well above MSRP, and newer used ones show very little depreciation.

It actually blocks me from responding when I get to many "is this available messages" I assume because Facebook thinks it is spam it blocks me for 24 hours after that I can respond very annoying

This is not an everyday mustang and if you wanted to push it quickly you’d be better off putting in a collector car auction. I can’t believe nobody knows what it is . I have always dreamed of having a Saleen Mustang since the sN95 mustang era. Didn’t really car for the fox body spleens but know they’re something special

I think part of it is the underlying engine, a 4.6L variable cam Triton, is known to be a money pit. Chain guides that break, tensioner gaskets that blow out, VCTs that stick, phasers that fail from a lack of oil pressure, lifters and roller followers that required an update from Ford, 2 piece spark plugs that break in the head, and an oil pump that leaks from the aluminum backplate at high speeds. The oil channels, particularly on the camshaft, are exceptionally small, so these engines absolutely require a perfect service history. I put my kids through college on this engine, and I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy.

that Saleen would have more chance of selling on cars and bids

Silly to finance a vehicle like that anyways. If you do not have the 30k to buy a vehicle like that you have no business owning one. I see why the banks are hesitant to finance a vehicle like that as if it was to be repoed they would need to resell it with the questionable value. After all the tire kickers, low balls, and broke people asking about flashy vehicles they could not afford I never bought any more. Nightmare selling vehicles like Mustangs(expensive), STI, Type R, etc..... Even the whole front line you have of Wranglers. Dream vehicle of broke people.

Hemmings is the only place I would list a saleen

It’s fords fault Ford should have saved separate vin numbers for saleen and rousch mustangs I have a 2004 S281 speedster super charged Not planing to sell Always get great comments

well, I think the reason why it sat is because its been MODDED, us SayLEEN guys aren't really into doing that to cars... we like them as close to factory as possible.. so.. it is what it is.. if you return it to factory then you are talking.. this video is so funny HAHAH

Moral of the story: low rent crap dealerships like yours shouldn’t carry specialty vehicles. Stick to high mileage old junk. Stay in your lane Sir....

Wow. That must be same for Calloway corvettes etc. But don’t saleen or roush Have some sort of directory or certificate program type org? I just find it hard to believe anyone who ever heard of a mustang, does not know Saleen or Roush.

The 281 part would have stopped anyone who knows mustangs. No its not worth more, nobody wants the junk 4.6 when the 5.0 is available.

LMAO REAL Mustang guys know what Saleens roushes ect are those who dont care dont know. More of collectors item then a driver

Why you wouldn’t buy one again, is the exact reason people buy them lol. Rare and they buy it for them. Not so someone down the street knows what they’re driving.

"Cash today" and "cash right now" my favorite Facebook offers!!

Some of the trouble with those compared to a GT500 is the Saleen and Roush do not have drivetrain upgrades.. they are body kit cars with a super charger.. GT500 is a better car by far.. Just because its low production rare car doesent make it super valuable unless its got 500 miles.. Thats a driver with over 40k.. also todays 2015 stock form GT has equal performance as a supercharged 4.6 from 2008. Nice car but id buy a 2015 GT.. then supercharge it.. Im a cash buyer and would have to pass on it. At least you got your money back.. 22k is a good number for it..

Just a twelve-minute ad for your car for sale.

Great info! My parents old 35th Ann Camaro SS Brickyard 400 pace car #22 was the same, as this Saleen, issues as spoken. It will be going on the block at Mecum this Wednesday in INDY.

281 I had a saleen a 2002 those motor suck they ain't worth a s***. Celines are all hyping overpriced

10+ Saleens currently listed on Hemmings Auctions

If you hadn't sold it I would definitely offer you $6000 cash TODAY!

28K USD... im in Canada and would of given you full asking in CASH! Nice car!

I'm from New Zealand and know what a Saleen mustang is.

Would have Called you even back when you first Purchased the Saleen video …… Just not ready yet 😤

the only place your getting decent money would be as high profile auction like Barrett Jackson, and the auction fee will gut you

I wouldn't buy a used Saleen or Roush simply because I know why the first owner probably bought it - to beat hell out of it.

These cars were slow sellers and heavily discounted new, good luck getting a premium for it

Start by learning to pronounce Saleen correctly. It’s not something you store your contact lenses within.

It's not a Mustang anymore with all badges & upgrades it's a Saleen & Rare People always trying to get over & lowball That's like if Graig put a Lamborghini on his lot will stick out like sore thumb good video

So happy you cleared that up because as a owner of one of these fine machines , I was wondering from the title of this video what is he talking about. I do remember when I was searching for my 06 in 2009 it was listed as a GT. I thought that was so strange although I knew what I was looking for and wanted. Now that I think about it I did finance half the price of the car which maybe why I didn't have a problem getting it. Good Video.

these are not worth more than a gt500. saleens are worth like 20-25kmax these aren't even sought after like a gt500 either

Been in love with these kind of cars since I was a kid

To help you out some. There may only be 3 2008 S281s for sale currently, but there are plenty of 05-08s for sale. The #22 doesn’t mean the car was the 22nd car made that year. Saleen doesn’t build them in sequence. Also cars numbers 1-10 are used internally for press/media, demos, family and friends. Not all numbers are used either. You can order a new window sticker and a Letter of Authenticity from Saleen on their website. The car you have had an aftermarket non Saleen hood on it. Saleen also did suspension changes including springs, sway bars, shocks/struts. Supercharged models also received larger front brakes with StopTech front calipers and rotors. The seats have custom covers and front has custom headrests. The wheels should be silver or chrome and have been refinished.

Target your selling efforts & listings in specilist Mustang and exotic car forums???

Yeah so rare that no dealer in louisiana even know what it is much less fathom any attempt service or warrant work.

Anyone who you have to explain to them that this is a saleen and not a regular GT is not the target audience for this car.

Curious as to why there's such a struggle to list it correctly? I looked on Facebook Marketplace just a couple hours ago and found a black 2008 with 65,000 Saleen S281SC listed for 19,500. The problem with the S281SC is that realistically they just weren't popular then and they aren't now unless you specifically look for one. The Shelby that's been mentioned had the same amount of interior and exterior work but went one step further and dropped a 5.4 with forged internals and an Eaton blower. Between the 2, the Shelby will always be the more popular of the 2. When new, many people stayed away from Saleen products when the Shelby was offered because Steve Saleen and Saleen as a business had a lot of legal issues going on which turned people off, but also the Shelby had the SVT/Ford badge which gave the impression of a better warranty, better ease of service and still having a relatively exclusive vehicle that had the Carol Shelby pedigree. Not to mention, car enthusiasts knew from the start that the Saleen and Roush cars just had blowers stuck on top of an otherwise stock 4.6 3v...although they made very respectable power...they were at the upper end of what a stock 4.6's rods could handle.

You got to drive it for 8 months then got all your money back .., then made a video with ads for skill share or some shit and we are supposed to feel bad for you?!??!!!!?🙄

Wow what a Nightmare Sounds like you get screwed every which way

The 351 extreme Saleen was the best Saleen made

That year was prob the ugliest design for Mustangs, imho.

Shouldn’t buy mustang all together stick to sweet Vettes boy

You can’t sell it cuz it’ll get demolished by any s550 for right around the same price. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Sir I am addicted about your contant and I have question for I wanna be like you a car dealer in Saudi Arabia what I learn to be successful ?

I know you sold it, but JJ Best might have financed it. Cars like that are their bread and butter.

Gotta eBay cars like that..

No problem, if you don't like the Saleen sell it to me. I live in Sweden 😊

I thought Saleen was considered a manufacturer

So you're saying you won't buy one cuz you can't sell it for a profit?

A lot of love and care went into Saleen models. They are very fun... If you want something different, and unique grab one. :D Time only brings more love to special cars like these. They are fun but the people that didnt know that will eventually. :D

If you don’t know how to pronounce Saleen then you shouldn’t buy one

Great content Craig very informative thanks for sharing all the tricks of the trade and I hope someone watches this video and give you a fair cash offer and .. problem solved

Woodside Credit, Premier Financial Services, J.J. Best and LightStream all provide collector car financing.

I cannot imagine dealing with the kinds of buyers looking at Mustangs at Buy Here Pay Here lots... Here comes Johnny Nocredit... “Aww dood awww doooood! How much? Awww doood! Nah man, no credit... You can finance, right?” (Turns out, the guy has garnished wages, hasnt held a job longer than six weeks, and a credit rating in the low 400s - but he needs that Mustang, man!)

I just got a 2006 mustang saleen with only 4K miles

It’s called SA-LEEN not SAY-LEEN!! 😂😂😂

I'd give him 11k for that Mustang GT

It's all about those Shelby pre-title cars. I had an '08 Shelby CS8.

i am looking at a 2008 roush 427 stage 3 as we speak it is a bargain 12,000 miles and mint

Did you know that Saleen worked their magic on a small handful of V6 and V8 models from 99 and 00? They’re pretty cool and I’ve only ever seen one.

One issue with how rare they are is everyone always puts replica kits on Mustangs, so I call them all "Faleens"; because even if they are real I just assume they are all fake lol.

They made more Shelby but they still have a superior driveline and a far better platform to build on.

Good idea stop buying that JUNK lol

Harder to sell because the VIN shows 08 Mustang and they won’t loan on it as a Saleen. Went through the same thing with a Roush I had. PIA

A lot of people know about saleens , rousch and other unique car custom companies it's just that everyone wants a steal of a deal. Maybe now after your video more customers will know but I've heard rousch tend to catch on fire.

Ball is in our court and you’ll take best cash offer? Aight...put me down for $5k. Lemme know 😂

Saleen usually trade among other saleen owners .

Bring A Trailer. Problem solved.

All the tire kickers with their thumbs down 😂