why is Eat Predators giving Drake Bell's DARVO campaign free PR? (Quiet On Set) (Video Essay) 

I'm so sorry the audio in this one is spotty, my mic was definitely dying and I'll check much earlier into recording next time to make sure it's fixed but I also didn't want to rerecord this and have it come across differently than it did on my first take so I'm uploading it as!!! The videos I mention about Alexa vs Christy Carlson Romano are by a creator named Cheyenne and you can find the first one here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NdJ7WMRXRzU.html

Quinton Reviews made a good point about the documentary, they didn’t grill him about his actions as an adult because they needed his story to complete the narrative. Without him all they had was a bunch of rumours and stories that had been heavily speculated on for years. They didn’t want to do anything to upset him that would cause him to pull his interview.

"I'm gonna talk like an adult" is a BANGER of a line

I just want to say that I, for one, greatly appreciate you calling a thing what it is, like, seriously. I will never understand this algorithm and why someone can totally describe a sexual assault with no penalty, but they must say “grape” instead of “rape” or it’s the end of the world. I honestly think it’s just youtube using monitization as a tool AGAINST creators. There is no reason on earth why saying the words “sexual assault” should suddenly make an otherwise perfectly fine video so dangerous that it loses monitization for the creator… while still showing ads that benefit youtube. 🙄 make it make sense.

So I’m a new follower, and a little background on me… I’m a retired nurse practitioner who specialized in psych and sub-specialized in the care and confinement of sexually violent predators in civil commitment; I have much to say on this topic, but I won’t drown you in it! I am impressed with your explanation of DARVO and of the very real phenomenon in which a certain number of victims become predators themselves. While it is important, from an SOTP therapeutic perspective, to acknowledge that unhealed trauma may well inform future victimizing behavior - it does not negate the damage that is then done to the next generation of victims. It does nothing to alleviate the suffering of the new generation of victims, and an offender’s overlapping status as a person who has been victimized in the past (or who is victimized after having offended, as in the case of retributive assaults within the prison system) and as a person who has victimized others does nothing to diminish the responsibility of the perpetrator or negate the need for rehabilitation, restorative justice, and interventions against reoffense. What is troubling about this narrative is not only the way it discounts Bell’s victims and their suffering, but also the narrative it implies about other victims - that they, too, are abuses; the facts simply do not bear this out. People who have been abused are actually less likely to become abusers - with or without therapeutic intervention - and are SIGNIFICANTLY less likely to become abusers than the general public when their trauma is identified and intervened upon in childhood. Rather than making a person more likely to commit abuse, having been abused is actually much more likely to result in a person becoming acutely aware of how that trauma negatively impacted their lives and they become hypersensitive to anything that might cause that harm in another. This is where we see, oftentimes, men who suffered abuse as young children becoming fathers who are TERRIFIED to traumatize their child to such an extent that changing diapers becomes traumatic for the father. We see survivor women who will not allow their children to be left alone with any male at all - siblings and even fathers included. We see the abuse impact all survivors, but not in the way that is being implied by other commentators. It should always concern us when someone says “this person hurts children because they were hurt as children” because that statement is so devastatingly harmful to the vast majority of abuse survivors who never harm anyone. Sorry I vomited information all over your page. It’s… um… engagement?? 😂😂 seriously, though, you are doing a great job! I appreciate greatly the work you’ve put into handling this conversation with the sensitivity and nuance it deserves.

I also find it infuriating seeing people say the same things about drakes victims as people said about drake as a child.

This is so validating! I was just ranting to my bestie about how much it bothers me that people are acting like he didn’t commit crimes against children himself and how awful this must feel for his victims. It’s frustrating even Alexa is doing this too

The fact that we have to use code words for terms and words that social media/ society now determines as inappropriate is insane to me. Whether it’s art or if it’s media I think people should be able to say their truths especially when it comes to situations like the quiet on set.

The trend of late to censor of words that describe assault has been bothering me, as well. If we aren't given the freedom to elucidate what's happened, then we can't connect with others, seek help or accountability, nor convey the full serious horrifying extent. It doesn't protect anyone to bowdlerise, it only disempowers.

Alexa seemed sweet but something about her is off, she wants this to be about her so bad. When she talks about people apologizing to drake she always brings up that they never apologized to her and Keeps making everyone else’s situation somehow about her . either cover it and spread awareness or don’t but don’t make this a moment to dwell on stuff YOUVE BEEN EXPOSING FOR YEARS

I felt like I was going crazy. as soon as this doc came out it became Drake bell is a hero and a survivor. It makes me seriously terrified of any source of media. Also I’m sorry his music video was gross, I just kept thinking of what his survivors would feel if they saw it. I would feel so attacked. It was like he was still grooming them through this video.

I am absolutely disgusted Dan Schneider has been given a full pass to start his apology tour and the fake narrative that he didn’t know

yeah i also didn’t like that they wouldn’t mention his actions as an adult

Thank you for saying it! I remember when drakes actions first came out a few years ago and everyone was mad about it as they should be. I was confused when all of a sudden he was 100% a victim. Something doesn’t feel right about having victim turned perpetrator given a platform. It feels like he/they are trying to erase his actions as an adult. I appreciate victims/perps is a complicated situation but I dont think victims should be put in a situation to share a platform with victims who are also perpetrators.

Thank you so much for uploading this. It's deeply reassuring to know I'm not the only one who's felt some trepidation around the release of Quiet on Set, given the felony charges brought up against Drake Bell in recent years

thank you for this video. as a csa survivor, it's driving me crazy the way people are just reversing the narrative with drake.

I’m starting to wonder if Alexa and Drake are straight up friends. I’m so disappointed.

Oh also… as a person who relies on captions… it has taken me an embarrassingly lengthy amount of time to figure out to what “Quiet Onset” refers… and at the risk of sounding callous with regard to its origin, can I just say that “Quiet Onset” would make an excellent title for a horror movie, or like… the name of a heavy metal band or whatever.

Just found you, first video of yours im seeing-very impressed. Instant subscribe. I have a small (hopefully) rant about the "hurt people hurt people" category of discourse around CSA. i hate it. So much. Its so damaging to victims-people who experience CSA grow up terrified that they are doomed to become like the person who hurt them. People will actually treat them like they are dangerous if they find out they experienced CSA... That stuff compounds the trauma like crazy. AND its _wrong._ People who go through that become _protectors,_ not perps, the vast majority of the time. The perceived likelihood of that person going on to hurt others is so overblown-why? Because actual perps are LIARS. Most of our information about the psychology of perps comes from evaluating prisoners... They hurt kids, theyre caught, out comes the sob story. Claiming "oh it happened to me too" is basically the _only thing_ that can get them a little sympathy, so thats what they go with.... They wont ALL be lying, csa is disturbingly common after all, but most of them probably are... But that stuff enters pop-psychology and gets distorted into this damaging perception that its actually highly likely for victims to become perps. Btw im not saying drake is a liar, i think its pretty obvious that his story is true-this isnt really about him, just the way the public chatter around him rn is really pushing the aforementioned harmful stigmatizing bs. It was not, in fact, a short rant. Im leaving it anyway. Gonna go watch your next video 🕺

Ive had an inkling of this feeling when i saw her playform his music video that imo while he's absolutely free to express his trauma in any way, the video and lyrics came off rushed to coincide with the release of the documentary and seeing her post it gave me an off feeling that even my boyfriend called out being weary of blindly supporting something just because she posted it

Liking and commenting to help with the algorithm !!! It irritates me how almost no one talks about what he did in his adult years.

Love your takes, I would love a video on Johnny Depp's successful DARVO campaign too

"I'm gonna talk like an adult" OMG THANK YOUUUU! nothing pulls me out of any video on a serious subject like the person talking suddenly going "sewer slide"

I appreciate that you didn't censor your language to comply with the algorithm, as it can really distract from the seriousness of those topics. I believe that those are words/topics that should provoke a reaction in the listener. Although I understand why some creators choose to do so, it is refreshing to see someone who doesn't.

still at the beginning but ty for giving quinton his flowers for a little, i think youre absolutely right that his series has always been clear in its final intent and he pulled it off with grace. i havent watched quiet on the set yet bc i was more invested in his version but im interested to see someone who is critical of it

Thanks for all this context. I had no idea.

How has Drake not finished his probation? & what evidence do you have to support this?

I commented you should read Jeanette’s book and somehow missed that you mentioned it

I understand why a patreon gifted you a microphone...I'm enjoying your content lately, but God...

I like you, keep creating!

Hes the human embodyment of hurt people hurt people

Hey, I completely agree with your video. There's been this back and forth in my mind about this whole Drake Bell thing. I love his music, so there's already that, and I know it's wrong of me for that, I try not to support finacially the artists like this because that's the only think I can do in protest. I think your video put it into perspective why I feel so werid about the whole situation. The fact that we don't know these people personally, but we symapsthize with their trauma it makes all of this a huge grey area. Like you said, there's a way to talk about this that's not ignoring the other side of things. Don't get me wrong, I'm a survivor of CSA and I sympathize with what Drake went through. I love his music, but this thing in the back of my mind that's been having me question this whole thing, like the timing and him not saying anything about his past girlfriends. I get a documentary probably won't delve too much into that for the reasons you said, but it is weird that she privated the video and is blocking people. I just don't want her to fall down the same trap. I want the victims and surviors of Drake's to be heard as well, and hold Drake accountable. It's a hard situation and I've felt exactly what you've been saying.

I havent closely watched what alexa has been doing for a while, but this is very discouraging and disappointing.

Yes, it's true!! thank you

Your name is my all-time favorite name.

Anyone here in the comments ACTUALLY KNOW what Bell was charge of ? What he actually did???

Totally agree with you on Alexa but the Amber Heard being the victim take, is wild. It is very clear that Amber is one of the people who used this accusation as a weapon and that she lied. Great video though besides that.