Why Is It So Hard To Change Someone's Mind? 

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dude's about to get a big ol nerdfighter hug

John Green brought me here. ... He's out waiting in the car.

Congrats on the Vlogbrothers shoutout!

Some dude in the 19th century: "Maybe we should start washing out hands before delivering babies..." Society: _You have been permanently banned from participating in Club Penguin for repeatedly not following the rules_

“You don’t just drink alcohol you’re an alcoholi-“

"You know the very powerful and very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering." - Doctor Who

John Green shouting out a video with his own book in the background... lol

5:43 F killed me lmaoo

"The human brain and the cultures that were subsequently designed by the human brain were not designed to be truth seeking machines. The human brain is much more of a survival machine, and whatever you haver thought up to know and whatever society has done up to now has gotten us here." HOLY HELL. It's just so obvious but also something that I haven't really thought about like that.

“He who knows only his country, knows no country at all” - this was brilliantly stated. I hope you run for office one day

John Green brought me here, and i'm so glad he did!

I have arrived from Nerdfighteria! Glad to be here!

Fun fact! In the 1500s, "the earth and the universe around it" was called "the world"; world referred to everything. It's only the modern sense of the word that is roughly equivalent to "planet".

My brain tingles a little bit whenever I get curious tangents vids in my inbox

my memory is so terrible that i consistently forget who this guy is for a second when i get notifications, and i must say; the expression on the channel icon holds considerable power.

If you think about it, these videos are like long essays. And based on how difficult writing a coherent and informative essay is, this is really impressive. Good job!

Great vid man. You're gonna be big one day.

I don't know why but you give me Nerdfighter vibe DFTBA

I once did a debate in highschool. While I had the best argument at the debate, I lost the debate because I didn't state my sources as I was speaking. This was surprising to me, but it makes a lot of sense. People will side with information with labels that they trust. It isn't about the information, it's about its presentation of the information. If it is appealing enough, they may believe you.

How other people think is always fascinating to me to be cause you cant never truly know everything going on in side their head.

"There are six moral matrices that make up the value structure in just about every human society that we have ever studied, but that's another RU-vid video." I very much hope it will be! I'm looking forward to watching it, if/when it comes out!

One of the only channels the can talk about politics without triggering anyone. And always does a good job of a balanced approach to it. good job!

I really liked this video. However, I did want to clarify one point about the Heliocentric model proposed by Copernicus: it was less predictively accurate than the Geocentric model, which is why nearly no scientists adopted it. He made the mistake of assuming planetary orbits were circular, rather than the elliptical orbits we accept today. This led to enough predictive inaccuracy that the geocentric model was a better predictor of celestial motion. Kepler wins over many in the scientific community when his proposal of elliptical orbits and varying orbital speeds makes simple predictions that are highly accurate. There are still a few holdouts who want to know why this was as it was, for which we needed Newton's explanation of gravity. To me this is a striking feature of progress in nearly all aspects of life is how incredibly non-linear it is and how dependent it is on a constellation of factors which may be hard to see beforehand.

Vlogbrothers suggested this video and I'm so glad I watched it. Love your content and definitely subscribing P.S I adoreeeee your bookshelf!

Came for the John Green recommendation, staying for the awesome content !!

The audio changed through the middle of the video. You might want to check that out

The relationship between the human brain narrative self story stuff and information is super complex. Our culture has really fluctuated faster than our minds. That darn lizard brain in there. Thanks for helpin me think more on this! Joining the Nerdfighters comin on over from John Green. =)

I came here because of John Green's shoutout. I watched some of your videos and subscribed to your channel. It is important that big players support new creators like you, who are doing great things. I will be waiting for more of your videos.

Great video, it is difficult to change a mind though if we make it a practice to learn something new everyday, we end up changing our minds about a lot of things. Being open minded to new ideas during difficult social times is important if we are to make the positive change that’s needed.

It's crazy that doctors didn't always know to wash their hands before delivering a baby. Another great video!

Dude...you are going to go SO far! I'm not sure even the sky would limit your potential.

"false consensus bias" What, am I thirty seconds in, and I already am really thankful to have a name for this? Oh, there's more... here, take my sub!

I've been a fan of those value system ideas for years, wasn't actually expecting to see them brought up. It does go a long way to how I think about even how I value vs other people I know about things.

Came from exurb1a comments... You earned a subscriber..

The thought about human brains being designed for survival instead of truth got me thinking about our relationship with technology and the algorithms running in the backgrounds of all our lives, and how hard it is to predict and understand the societal implications of these things as machines based on some objective "truth." Great video, and those are some great thoughts. I really appreciate that you posit a solution to the problem at the end; it's something I see so rarely these days

Got here from vlogbrothers. I like what you are saying. And reading. I think I will subscribe. Change my mind. I dare you.

It's nice (and strange at the same time) to hear something nice about a Polish person. Copernicus, I mean. Anyways, great vid, as always. Your arguments are always valid and to the point.

Change a man's mind against his will he remains of the same mind still. I don't engage people in discussions of religon or politics for the very reasons you stated.

so glad John Green recommended this video & channel. I'm not sure if I'd have found it this great content otherwise. subbed!

Well sometimes influence can be easy as well. For example let’s take your subscribers. I noticed the views of this video don’t match the amount of subscribers. I found your channel through Austin McConnell and I assume others did as well. But that also means that some of the people who found your channel just subscribed but probably didn’t watch your videos. (This isn’t a bad thing, you have subscribers). But this shows how influence from others can change a persons ideals with a snap of a finger

Ahh and you have turtles all the way down on your shelf! (Yes I am here because of John, too) great video btw :)

Super interesting video!! I really like the saying "a person who knows only one country knows no countries" but I think it's been around for quite a while. The only written reference I could find of it was from a scholar named Seymour Martin Lipset (www.chronicle.com/article/seymour-martin-lipset/) although I wouldn't be so sure he actually came up with the phrase.

John Green sent me here, but it was your deep soothing voice that made me subscribe

I just found your channel and I love it.

Amazing content! Happy to know this channel!

Such great content for a small channel, subscribed for sure.

Excellent! Another thoughtful channel to binge! Yay!

You should've ended the video by implementing the strategy of trying to persuade someone to "Like" your video "While you may not have hit "Like" on this video, you most likely liked some part of it. You also like other things. It only makes sense that you smash that "Like" button"

A great video as always! Raises a lot of questions and brings to light an unbiased perspective a lot of us forget in the heat of reality

My first time actually watching one of your videos and I’m hooked. Definitely can’t wait to see more.

You are so great at explaining such interesting things! Excited to binge all your videos!!

Really good video!

I promise we don't know what you know

Thoughtful and relevant. Appreciate your topic selections.

Great video! You actually did a really really good job explaining something I thought about recently. Thank you!

Thanks for your content

This is so true and it frustrates me to no end. I try my best to rethink and re-evaluate my own beliefs, questioning whether or not I'm right or just not willing to accept that I'm wrong. I am by no means perfect at it and I certainly do believe something's only because I always have but still when I catch someone else doing this, believing in something with no evidence, it drives me up the wall.

Thank you for this great video! I also discovered your channel through vlogbrothers and can't wait for the weekend to binge all of the content that's already uploaded!

John Green sent me here. Subscribed!

Nice job, man! Gonna use this in my freshman college English class as an intro to argumentation.

Great shit homie

Love the video! Minor feedback: the opening chime is a bit loud considering the high pitch - it may be considerable in actual volume to your voice, but the pitch itself can sting the ears without warning if your volume is turned up. Keep it up, love the content!

nice vid btw good channel

Looking back, I can clearly see I didn't fully understand my home state until I moved a couple of time to other states in very different parts of the country. I lacked broader context to interpret my experiences. For example, I didn't realize how much I love pine trees until I moved somewhere without pine trees and then back again. I also didn't notice the local culture until I experienced a variety of cultures. As a Yankee living near the Mason-Dixon line, I made a woman very angry by not knowing the difference between sweetened tea and sweet tea, but now that I live in the South I know these two are not the same thing.

very cool

Oh I know about that doctor who said about washing hands. Poor guy.

This is great

Well Well Well lets find out shall we

Somebody once told me to check out your channel

it feels like some effect is used on selfie camera footage, making silluette sharper, but somehow unnatural

That was a good video

Nerdfighters, where are y’all at!?

Just helping the algorithm

genius he is

i fuck with this so heavy

I was constantly distracted by the fact that he mirrored all shots of himself for no reason I can understand.

I think framing things in terms of fairness has been so expertly pulled off by the Right demanding fairness from the Left, considering fairness is what the Left advocates, usually the right doesn't advocate fairness over loyalty, which is why it's so insidious.

Patriotism is a control tool of the Tribal Aristocracy. There is no more a powerful and motivational component of human nature than tribe. None. Humans are innately tribal. We have a strong need to belong to groups and maintain fulfilling relationships with others. This need to belong _warps our reasoning ability._ The first person _known_ to have proposed a heliocentric system was Aristarchus of Samos (c. 270 BC). The pagan Martianus Capella (5th century A.D.) wrote that both Venus and Mars rotated around the Sun, and not the earth. Later scientist from India debated the whole Ptolemaic system in 499 A.D. as well. Islamic astronomer Ibn al-Haytham in his book Al-Shukūk 'alā Baṭalamiyūs branded the Ptolemaic system an impossibility in 1029 A.D. Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake in 1600 in Italy by his own tribe (the Roman Catholic Church) for his beliefs. These _included_ that the earth orbited the sun and that the stars were distant suns surrounded by their own planets, and that these planets might foster life of their own. (also convicted of: *holding "opinions"* contrary to the Catholic faith and speaking against it and its ministers; *holding "opinions"* contrary to the Catholic faith about the Trinity, divinity of Christ, and Incarnation; *holding "opinions"* contrary to the Catholic faith pertaining to Jesus as Christ; *holding "opinions"* contrary to the Catholic faith regarding the virginity of Mary, mother of Jesus; *holding "opinions"* contrary to the Catholic faith about both Transubstantiation and Mass; ...and my personal favorite: dealing in magics and divination.) It did not matter a jot to anyone whether this was true or not other than his tribe of course, (They would have been exposed as the frauds they were) and they killed him for his beliefs ...which turned out to be true. Similarly, The Catholic Church condemned Galileo in 1633 for proposing similar science based facts. Threatened with torture by the Inquisition, Galileo recanted on April 30, 1633. The Church didn't formally admit that Galileo had been wrongfully condemned *...until 1984.*

It's not that the geocentric model is false. It's that it takes a lot more rules and exceptions to explain than the heliocentric model. The geocentric model used to be the more elegant information before telescopes enabled us to discover more about stars and planetary movement. It is possible that one day we make a discovery that will make the heliocentric model look as inelegant as the geocentric does to us now.

The question is based on a false premise. Facts don't change. That's what makes them facts. The problem is that people draw conclusions in the absence of conclusive evidence, and then that conclusion takes the place of evidence in future decision-making. Rather than remember all the evidence, people just remember their conclusions, and this new evidence gets ignored (confirmation bias). The only way around this is to avoid drawing those initial conclusions. In the absence of conclusive evidence, conclude nothing. This avoids confirmation bias, because the new evidence gets to intermingle with the existing evidence to create an even larger pool of facts on which to base your conclusions once the evidence becomes conclusive.

Mobiles are balanced, but they move...in mostly predictable ways. The difficulty with mobiles is adding more elements that help maintain balance in the whole system as well as in their locales. I think of cognitive dissonance in this visual way...adding to a growing driftwood mobile and keeping local balance but unwittingly undoing the greater balance.

Yes

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If you want to have good conversations and change people's minds look up street epistemology.

wait I want to learn more about those value structures 😳

John Green sent me here.

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You didn’t change my mind on why it’s hard to change someones mind.

"Some doctors feeling offended by the idea that they may be responsible for the deaths of these women even went out of their way to operate with unclean hands." Anti-masker parallels.

Amazingly relevant to the issues we are facing today with people opposing masks and vaccinations for COVID. I started with your first video and I'm working my way up to the most recent after which I'll follow your progress.

A lot of people use that meme but I wonder if they have ever looked up the video. The picture in the thumbnail

Where's Discord?

whats your skin care routine

Yo you should try mirroring your videos so text isn't backwards.

So Copernicus' ideas took 277 years to be accepted but he lived to see his ideas being "moderately accepted"? So you mean just the consensus still remained against him?

This one is for the algorithm

Do you ever plan to monetize your channel? If so, how close are you to the 4 thousand watch hours?

Hold on does the universe have a center??

Can you talk about people getting irrationaly offended when you talk badly of something they love and have made part of their identity ? I only watched this video and dont know the style of the channel