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WHY IS MISHA C TIER? | 2.1 MOC 4 Star Tier List | Honkai Star Rail 

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@Eclin
@Eclin 4 месяца назад
Even some of the 5* placements are kinda dodgy imo, even worse for the 4* because they clearly don’t have enough experience using them.
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah I feel like most people didn't even use Misha and just put him down in C tier haha. Also certain other rankings are a bit sus too.
@WeiForever
@WeiForever 4 месяца назад
Excellent tier list! Nothing is more convincing from a 4 star player, I am really glad hoyo released Misha at this power level. I think we are just waiting for a 4 star imaginary dps at this point (Maybe that's why we got Dr.Ratio for free)
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah I am still holding out hope for us to get a 4 star imaginary DPS. I think at some point we will get it I'm thinking either late in the 2.0 cycle or early 3.0 cycle. I am also very happy with Misha's power level, and I'm confident in him dealing with ice floors.
@WeiForever
@WeiForever 4 месяца назад
@@Mocchi- I agree, later the better and stronger 💪
@MikeymaruArt
@MikeymaruArt 4 месяца назад
Thats right! Justice for Misha! Prydwen throwing characters wherever. They need to move Sushang to the right category as well! Some of their placements have such bias and others just have no thought or practice put into it. Nice evaluation for the 4 star characters!
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah I also don't really think that Sushang & Xueyi really belong in the specialist category. I think they are both DPS who just focus on break.
@gigawolf1799
@gigawolf1799 4 месяца назад
I always thought Misha's kit held a lot of potential but I see no people playing him simply because he's overshadowed by Jingliu (it would be different if his only competition was Yanqing).
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
I think JingLiu is a very strong carry, but Misha is definitely very good for being a 4 star unit 😯! But If the only unit better than you in your element is one of the best limited 5 stars in the game, I think it's pretty good.
@snofewld
@snofewld 4 месяца назад
For Arlan and Sushang, we really need to look for the future. Although for Sushang her moment of glory ( with Luka ) will come back thanks to harmony trailblazer. For Arlan we really need a harmony unit that gives buffs with hp consuming and it doesn't seem unthinkable considering the nex main dps coming uses this mechanic too
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
I would really like a preservation unit that converts health into shields, that would be really good for Arlan to have. And I hope to see a Sushang renaissance :O!
@phibi_berkeleytime
@phibi_berkeleytime 4 месяца назад
people definitely underestimated the value of freeze
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah, Misha and March Freeze can be used for sustain and we have instances of 4 star creators using freeze to make DOT proc faster.
@ikatsuwu
@ikatsuwu 4 месяца назад
my fav is Serval she can be your hypercarry, sub DoT dps in Kafka or any DoT Comp and good breaker with hybrid break build and you always spam her ULT nice video I liked the format 💖
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I love Serval as well 😁, She's my main! 🤩
@ElZenom
@ElZenom 4 месяца назад
I feel like it changes on the whim depending on the weakness-meta of the current MoC. But I do agree that they ranked Misha too low. He's at least higher than Herta. Same goes for Hook.
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah it really depends on the current meta of MOC, but some rankings are a bit messed up for me.
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 4 месяца назад
Built him his ulti is really strong, and if I use the planar that increases his Regen when same ice type characters are in play I just kept ulting non stop especially with ERR rope
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah his ultimate is actually insane, I just got him E4 off the character selector so I'm excited to see his potential increase. His E6 also seems like a huge damage increase.
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169
@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169 4 месяца назад
@@Mocchi- I have him at e6 so I can personally say his really poweful
@hazardsigns
@hazardsigns 4 месяца назад
Great list. Most people sleep on Sampo (I hate his in-game character too, but he slaps in battle) but before Black Swan, he was my go-to for wind weak enemies. The only person I'd place higher is Herta, but that's likely because I use her with 5 star supports. If you run her as sub DPS with a strong damage dealer, her all-enemy follow up attacks are insane. My best example is running her with DHIL against the weekly bug boss. She annihilates the mobs, as they are all ice weak. However, she is run with Fu Xuan and Sparkle. I also lucked into a bonus second Jing Yuan light cone that I run with her. So her crit values are very high. Susheng was my go-to at the start of the game and I loved her so much. Will admit I haven't picked her up though, since I built a DoT team and then Acheron. She just cannot keep up. It's a shame. I hope we see a 4 star multi-hitting physical unit soon. I'd rather not pull for the "beauty knight", his character is even more off-putting than Sampo 😆
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Haha is this way a general use tier list I'd rate Herta much higher. This one is for MOC only though. As for Sampo I agree he is just a really well rounded and solid character. As for Sushang I really loved using her at a point, but as we got up to MOC 11 & 12 her damage output just does not cut it anymore.
@brownbrown3882
@brownbrown3882 4 месяца назад
Your relics rolls look beyond amazing. How long dose it take you to build the relic set for a character like Misha? I have spent over 7000 trail blazer points on farming a set for him and have no where near the stat levels you have?
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
My Misha set is kinda mid, but I just used rainbow pieces I already had.
@ThisIsSetsuna
@ThisIsSetsuna 4 месяца назад
In this White Night MoC, Misha looking out to be very amazing against Ten Stoneheart Aventurine. His kit gives him everything he needs for Lower Floor MoC 12.
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Yeah I can't wait to try it out when I get home, Misha gonna be beating Aventurine with ease 😤.
@arthurfalcomer4420
@arthurfalcomer4420 4 месяца назад
Prydwen may be wrong on some spots but i would argue its a very good tier list for someone who is getting into the game. Videos like this are really good to prove some of the things that may be wrong with it and who knows maybe they evaluate their placements in the future
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
I think the Prydwen tier is excellent in general and with a tier list that is so prolific, people are bound to find something that they disagree with. As long as we keep the disagreement healthy.
@assasin908
@assasin908 4 месяца назад
I was finally able to take some time to watch your video, what better than a 4* user to rate them. In general I agree with most of the ratings, I just still think that QQ is not a big deal, from my own experience Xueyi E3 gave me better results (now I have E4) than my QQ E5. On the other hand, Prydwen always seemed like a joke to me, just like the Hispanic ccs, especially because there seems to be no proper criteria and they give their opinion without knowing or giving a chance to "x" characters (like Serval for example, I remember there was a cc which he argued with his entire chat because he didn't want to acknowledge how good she is). Good tierlist, will you make one of the supports?
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
I'm not sure if I'll make one for the supports, because the way they are ranked generally is mostly correct (at least in my head). For me my E6 QQ does way more than my E3 Xueyi, I am still waiting for Xueyi rerun so I can get her E6. Also the Serval thing has bugged me for so long, honestly the difference between Serval and Jing Yuan was always supper exaggerated, she has always been good but the 4 star stigma has been too hard for her.
@cloudy978
@cloudy978 4 месяца назад
I disagree with Sushang's placement In my honest opinion. She has consistently high damage even without swords dance. She has great action And Skill point economy thanks to her Ultimate. Additionally while she wants break effect she doesn't want it that much if you go for a dps build you go atl rope and get Break effect substats and they aren't even required especiially at E4. But she also doesn't need Eidolons to work and is good at E0. I can't say the same for Xueyi however. While starting at E4 and E6 Xueyi is a monster, she is pretty mid before that point because her damage is really poor at E0
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
I can see where you are coming from, but when they added MOC 11 & 12 and increased the health of the enemies by a large degree. I saw Sushang's performance decline for me by a lot, her damage even with double support is not enough. Also Luka just fills the niche way better at E6, when he does a physical break the damage is insane. Her best role right now is probably just helping Luka further break toughness bars even quicker. Also for Xueyi as I stated at the start of the guide the characters are based on the E6 potential and her potential at E6 is pretty nutty, I will agree her performance at low Eidolons definitely leaves something to be desired.
@BuiltSimilarG
@BuiltSimilarG 4 месяца назад
Why is the chapter for hook labeled Guinaifen?
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Good catch! I accidentally mislabeled it, thank you 😛
@linhmy7673
@linhmy7673 4 месяца назад
Whos prydwen?
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
Prydwen is a website for Honkai Star Rail guides, tier list, and general information about the game.
@linhmy7673
@linhmy7673 4 месяца назад
@@Mocchi- i see ..thanks
@hyfurnn60
@hyfurnn60 4 месяца назад
Its wild to me how misha is in the same placement in moc as herta and himeko in d tier i literally fought abundance deer moc 12 with him had 120 crit dmg with ice set all i did was ult max stacks 2 time with a ruan mei e0s0 no res pen ult on her and he literally 2 shotted him his single target ult dmg and ice toughness break is insane its actually a nuke how tf is he so low 😭😭hes so good even in a permafreeze team with march and that e2 def shred is wild combined with the fact he has free crit dmg hes still cooking even in this moc the supreme 4 star bellboy 🧹🧹
@Mocchi-
@Mocchi- 4 месяца назад
The 4 Star bellboy stocks are gonna go up soon! Buy them while they are cheap haha! 😁
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