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Why is the BYD Dolphin/Atto 3 slow to charge? Here's why | EV Guide

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Different EVs have different charging support for AC and DC. If you have a BYD Atto 3 or the BYD Dolphin, you might notice that your EV isn't charging as fast as you'd expect. Most EVs from China such as BYD and GWM Ora support single-phase AC charging with up to 7kW. But why are you only getting 3kW when plugged into an 11kW AC charge point?
We explain the AC and DC charging support for the BYD, the types of chargers available and what you should do to get the fastest charging possible for your EV.
#BYD #BYDAtto3 #byddolphin
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:52 - EVs with single phase OBC
01:12 - AC Charging options in Malaysia
01:46 - BYD Dolphin with 11kW AC charger
02:20 - BYD Dolphin with 7kW AC charger
03:26 - BYD Dolphin with 22kW AC charger
04:01 - Recap on BYD Dolphin/Atto AC charging
04:41 - BYD Dolphin DC Charging
05:41 - Limit DC Charging to 80%
06:22 - Choose the right DC Charger
06:50 - Conclusion

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17 авг 2024

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@aussieideasman8498 9 месяцев назад

Took my Atto3 on a nearly 6,000 km trip Brisbane-Melbourne-Adelaide and back. Will make a video of the pros and cons in about a week from now.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Congrats on completing the trip. Hope if was fun!

@piol91 9 месяцев назад

I think this video by far the simplest explanation. Kudos.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! Hope it was helpful for you.

@piol91 9 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv Well, i'm not a math person but your break downs are just straight forward for newbies or new potential owners who doesn't understand the foundation and calculation. Cheers

@maxcavalera9797 9 месяцев назад

Btw pls keep making video on latest installed charger location for gentari and chargev and other operator. You are the only one dedicated to keep us up to date on this. Other media dont really focus much on it.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

We'll do that. Thank you for the support and encouragement.

@yagooatthegoat 9 месяцев назад

FAST tv also not bad the malay uncle does podcast and q&a sessions

@just4therecord 9 месяцев назад

To make things simple, all public AC chargers must be 22kW minimum. If for your home, put 22kW if your house has three phase and 7.4kW if your house is only single phase

@FaizalZain 9 месяцев назад

Only few cars can draw 22kW AC charging currently on the market. At the end of the day it depends on your car onboard charger. The so called charger is actually EVSE, the actual charger is in your car for AC

@just4therecord 9 месяцев назад

@@FaizalZain I don’t think you get the point. If the EVSE is 22kW, you will get full power no matter what your car’s OBC is

@mohddinie705 9 месяцев назад

@@just4therecord nope, even if you have a 22kW AC EVSE at home but car OBC only able to support 11kW AC, then that will be the maximum charging capability. Unless you have DC charger at home

@just4therecord 9 месяцев назад

@@mohddinie705 I'm talking about public EvSE. Read my initial post. And when I say full power, I mean whatever your car is rated for, not the full 22kW 😅

@lancewood1410 9 месяцев назад

How many homes in malaysia has 3 phase? If your house can afford to have 3 phase, you will be buying a much much more expensive car.

@colddiesel 9 месяцев назад

Good solid information which almost all so called car reviewers ignore.Thanks from OZ. 5 stars!

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful and thank you for watching!

@Mladjasmilic 9 месяцев назад

Some cars have 3 separate onboard chargers for 3 phases. So, when doing 3 phase at 16A, all 3 are active. But if you give it 1 phase 32A, it combines 2 chargers via internal contactor. But to save money, some cheap cars have just 1 32A onboard charger.

@AviAeroAsis 2 месяца назад

This video was informative. Thank you.

@internationalbusiness5877 Месяц назад

I realize that despite using the 7kw AC charger and 22kw AC charger, the car is only charging at 6.3kw. So, faster charging varies depending on the limit of the car's charge.

@jessccy 9 месяцев назад

Appreciate the effort. From record from daylight till night time. Hahaha too fast till cannot buy coffee? Good la save money and go sleep 😂

@vincenzoyoutube33-bo9me 9 месяцев назад

Good information and well presented

@ryuno2097 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the guide. Could be useful maybe if i decide to get a EV in the future.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Most welcome! Hopefully it will be soon. Good luck!

@martijnortega8863 5 месяцев назад

European BYD like Atto 3 do charged with 11kWh on AC. The Atto AC charger used in Asia is single fase and in Europe 3 fase. Two weeks ago we charged at an 11kWh AC charger from almost empty (9%) to full in less then 6 hours. Btw, it was fun seeing the 11kW charger was made in the city of Delft, Netherlands.

@realstonecan 3 месяца назад

It was made in China, just ABB's charger division's company address is in The Netherlands

@CalvinYeap 9 месяцев назад

Great content guys! 👍👍👍

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Thank you. Do suggest any other topics we should cover in our EV series.

@CalvinYeap 9 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv Ah yes, I would suggest to do one on battery chemistry, the difference between LPF vs NMC. :)

@sonnykhoo7236 9 месяцев назад

Excellent now totally understand

@nithirasanayagam2947 9 месяцев назад

good video, we have a lot to get use to and understand with ev's , how does the insurance part work as in some countries they are saying that insurance premium and cost of insurance may also be an issue for ev drivers in the future .

@noodlefoo 8 месяцев назад

Very well explained, thanks.

@GerbenWulff 9 месяцев назад

Teslas also used to have low charging speeds on 3 phase chargers, but a few years ago they included 11 kW 3-phase AC charging.

@magdytawfik-tf4fl 2 месяца назад

I have a problem in charging my yuan plus ( Atto3) using wallmount home charger of BYD it give only 3kw / hr however it is 32A 7Kw and gives me this message (Note: The vehicle has preset charging function, which can be set on the multimedia system).

@swkbh86 9 месяцев назад

Very informative video❤

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! Glad you liked it. What should be the next topic to cover in this series?

@gregb1599 9 месяцев назад

Seems maybe BYD are actually only rated to 6.6kw like other EV like lower trim MG4 and 62kwh Nissan Leaf.

@veronicathecow 9 месяцев назад

Nice explanation, thank you.

@CameronKang91 9 месяцев назад

7:18 The Red Kia, you're more than welcome to switch with my Ora Good Cat 🤣🤣

@yagooatthegoat 9 месяцев назад

Man thats a flex 😂

@jimgraham6722 9 месяцев назад

Atto is excellent value but at end of day is a budget vehicle. The higher powered MOSFETs (solid state switches) cost a lot of money. If they were incorporated in the Atto3 it would be a significantly more expensive vehicle, just to save a few minutes at a charge station.

@tanyengi 2 месяца назад

May I know what kind of app you are using? Thanks

@honesty_-no9he 9 месяцев назад

Learnt something. Thanks.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

That makes all the hard work worth it. Thank you!

@army2408 9 месяцев назад

Very useful info. Thanks for sharing

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! Thank you for watching.

@xavierloo6978 9 месяцев назад

the last part very lansi but i like... kudos to our 800v FTW!!! hahahaha

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

😂😂😂 It's a real-world problem, ok.

@TheGinger3 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much for the video 🙏

@CameronKang91 9 месяцев назад

1:26 The passing ped be like "Dude what are you filming"

@arasuishere 8 месяцев назад

Hahaha that's how pelik when you live in Malaysia, you can bring all latest ev car products but there is NO latest high capacity fast charging stations anywhere.. Malaysia truly Asia.

@soyacincautv 8 месяцев назад

On the contrary, Malaysia already has some of the latest, fastest and highest capacity charging.

@arasuishere 8 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv what's the point you only have it in few selected places but not at most gas stations & most of the shopping malls? that's is the only most reliable place to get a fast charge up. They need to start change all these slow charges to the fast ones.

@PROJEKRSX 9 месяцев назад

great content

@engleelim2508 3 месяца назад

Is there good app for showing the availability of chargers in Malaysia?

@sret7880 9 месяцев назад

so eV capable for 3 phase is better? as they can use all 1 phase and 3 phase charger at optimum level?

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

This is one aspect to look for in an EV. Generally, three-phase on-board charger is better than a single phase one. But you should also consider things like battery (size and technology) as well as DC charging. In the case of the BYD Dolphin, some of the advantages are: It uses BYD's Blade battery: The Blade battery is based on lithium-ion phosphate. This battery is safer, has a higher energy density and has a better lifespan. It also can be charged to 100% more regularly than other EV batteries. DC charging: The Dolphin Dynamic Standard can DC charge up to 60kW while the Premium Extended can charge up to 80kW. This can charge the Dolphin from 10 - 80% in 35 and 30 minutes. Overall efficiency: The BYD Dolphin is one of the most efficient EVs we've tested. This means you don't have to charge it often especially when travelling long distances.

@sret7880 9 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv Thanks for the detailed reply. appreciate it

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Most welcome. Glad to help!

@breakhart 8 месяцев назад

thats why some EV with same batteries can be cheaper or more expensive, different price also factoring the charger type. many people still don't really understand about this, or simply didn't care, and simply hate EV because of that 😂

@steventeoh260 9 месяцев назад

Great video!

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! What do you think we should cover next?

@moumou4 9 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv the cost for the charge 😄

@CHE7962 9 месяцев назад

thanks。 i got my answer👌

@teckmingyeo2337 27 дней назад

I wanna know where I can find these 180kw charging stations in KL area.

@soyacincautv 26 дней назад

There are quite a number. ChargEV 320kW at Berjaya Times Square, DC Handal 200kW at Menara Matrade, 200kW at UOA Damansara II, 240kW at Bangsar South and 200kW at Bamboo Hills.

@skwong94 9 месяцев назад

3:52 i'm curious about the reason why tesla didnt make it to the chart despite being a mainstream ev model

@microsatellites 2 месяца назад

Super! Thanks

@ericliume 9 месяцев назад

To make it simple, use DC charger no matter what. Only AC at home.

@eduardodaquiljr9637 9 месяцев назад

Regardless of voltage you mean we can charge our EV?

@adriannathaniel4015 9 месяцев назад

Same goes when installing the right EVSE at home.

@maxcavalera9797 9 месяцев назад

Lfp blade battery cant charge as rapid as high performance high temperature turnery battery? 😢

@decoretay3017 9 месяцев назад

extended range battery capacity only 60.48kwh. the car got 55% and with 85.1kw charge power, how come still need 48mins to full charge????

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

It is due to the DC charging curve. Explained at 5:41. At 60%, it drops to 58kW, then around 95% it drops to 33kw. That's why you should just stop at 80% and don't charge to full. Not only it takes longer time, it is more expensive to charge if the charger is priced per minute.

@caitrionaledgewood9339 4 месяца назад

Can someone help me with mine. It's taking 30 hours to charge to full. If I charge overnight for 12 hours, I'm only getting about 40%.. it's been terrible.

@PsychedMedia 3 месяца назад

Thats because you are using the supplied granny charger? You need a home wallbox unit installed to get faster charging speed

@phatmeow7764 2 месяца назад

i think in Europe their AC chargers can do 43kw max!

@grid-panda 9 месяцев назад

Just curious: Can a house in Malaysia be installed with a second power line for EV charging, Is it expensive?

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

You have to apply with TNB and justify and you would only want to do this if you're installing a DC fast charger. For AC charging, a typical home power setup is more than adequate, just that if you house is single phase, you may want to upgrade to a 3-phase power supply.

@grid-panda 9 месяцев назад

@@soyacincautv Do residential houses in Malaysia have a very high power input? I am in China, the electricity power of a single household is single-phase 220V/40-50A, which is not enough to install a 7-11KW EV charging box, so most users would install a second cable and electricity mete specifically for EV charging.

@Y2Kvids 9 месяцев назад

byd e6 support 40KW ac

@greggpon7466 9 месяцев назад

Slow byd charging speed? Get an mg or a new xpeng g9. Bjorn tested them an got 150 kw dc charging for the mg4 and 300 kw for the g9.😮

@aneks161181 8 месяцев назад

tq for info

@CalvinSeak 4 месяца назад

Hi Soya Cincau, I am looking to get an EV and could you explain the memberships that we have in our EV infrastructure in Malaysia For example I frequet Suway Pyramid and I see that there are Gentari Chargers like what you are using in your video But I also see the same exact Gentari Chargers in CharEV.. Won't be getting a BMW/Mini EV So for my situation, should I be subscribe to ChargEV's memberships, jomcharge or just use Setel? Thanks!!

@soyacincautv 4 месяца назад

Hi. It depends on which charger you use more often. For Gentari, the membership which costs RM899/year gives 50% off on all chargers. This is great if you often use a Gentari charger and plan to do lots of long distance trips. Their DC charger is effectively RM0.75 per kWh with the membership. For ChargEV, the previous highlight was unlimited free charging using the card. However, most of these chargers are slowly being discontinued in favour for pay per use. With ChargEV membership, you get a slightly cheaper rate than non-members. The discount is not as significant as Gentari's 50% off.

@niallerc1969 9 месяцев назад

I get 10.8kW on a 22kw charger here in Ireland in the Atto 3

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

Looks like your Atto 3 is equipped with a 3-phase onboard charger. That's great! In Malaysia, we only get a single-phase onboard unit.

@BlueOrcX 5 месяцев назад

Same here in Netherlands, they all do 11 kW. If i am right in EU they have to be 11 kW AC.

@mizaru84 9 месяцев назад

Same problem for the BYD Seal in Asia market. Btw it's different from the Europe market, it's 3 phase and faster

@Stepheny15 9 месяцев назад

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@BadmintonCT 9 месяцев назад

at the 22kw charger. do they charge u base on 22kwh or 7kwh rate?

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

It depends on the charge point operator. Some charge by time (per hour or per minute) or per kWh. kWh-based calculation is a fairer way to charge as you only pay based on what you use and not how long your car is plugged in. If the charger is priced by time, it is more worth it for cars that can receive higher 11kW or 22kW.

@fiscowarren4298 4 месяца назад

good

@rayson7043 9 месяцев назад

Lai...give you 1 like

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

You are the best. Give you one like back.

@ZaimAfham 9 месяцев назад

Why some charger are still chargers customer per min? Its ridiculous. Better per Kw

@PsychedMedia 9 месяцев назад

Need to apply suruhanjaya tenaga license to be able to charge customer electricity in kWh

@ZaimAfham 9 месяцев назад

@@PsychedMedia yup i heard about that recently. they said older license charges customer by minute and newer license charges by Kw

@kurakurakii3792 9 месяцев назад

With ev youll get more premium time with your family at the gas station. No more F1 pit stop gas refill. Great info on charging station thanks. This is a joke so have mercy on me oh #juststopoil please.

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

😂 Luckily you say it's a joke, or else...😅

@AKA001 9 месяцев назад

Single phase in a modern ev is unacceptable.

@JohnoEx 9 месяцев назад

Please make a charging test video for Dolphin Dynamic (base) model

@soyacincautv 9 месяцев назад

It is the same for the base BYD Dolphin Dynamic Standard. It also gets a 7kW single phase onboard charger. The only difference is that the DC fast charging is slightly slower as it maxes out at 60kW.

@NFS-shade 9 месяцев назад

I wish i could give you guys 3000 likes but only allowed 1. Thanks..I think i get the idea from your video .

@TruCunt 7 месяцев назад

I wait 1 plus hour for my Tesla to charge I hate it so much. I truly have evs

@shykull 5 месяцев назад

Formula to calculate 3phase power is wrong hahaha.... supposed to be 415V x 16/32A x sqrt (3)

@Uni12355 3 месяца назад

stupid BYD cannot take 3 phase 11kw , a tesla can finish charging to 80% around 4 hours . AC for BYD 3 phase 11kw is sucks

@unboxingdoomdays5949 2 месяца назад

Imagine these flammable car not going through Malaysia safety car test.

@berzmenta8447 2 месяца назад

Poor quality product will overdrive high speed charging karaboom the outcome

@scaleartsg Месяц назад

0:34 wtf

@nelsonpacheco8067 3 месяца назад

Just observe china chinese people doing business in ph what car do they buy ÈUROPEAN OR JAPANESE CARS & NOT CHINA MADE CARS OR EV.

@tckrto 9 месяцев назад

Means don't use ABB 11kw chargers. Cause is AliBaBa 😂

@Chris.Davies 2 месяца назад

Hilarious garbage from Burn Your Driveway.

@willimacdo 7 месяцев назад

Pushing women around, is not a good look ☹️

@unboxingdoomdays5949 2 месяца назад

Poor quality. Axel poor quality and worst car. Go for tesla

@realmlee8803 9 месяцев назад

This EV technology is not making us any advance but making us backward. Why we need to worry abt charging power or charging time when ICE technology have long passed this issue. Charging also not cheap, EV is not environmental friendly too, what's good beside the feeling of unparellel speed..

@nurhendry5464 9 месяцев назад

Ev no need for further cari gali oil no need searching and only find further energy like solar hydro and if you smart then nuclear ofcourse ev actually for country advance have nuclear

@realmlee8803 9 месяцев назад

@nurhendry5464 how do we produce electricity today? Mainly also from natural resources which is limited. EV is not only the technology, taxi have been using the technology which way better than electricity costing us and this is just one example of other technology. EV is a bigger electronics waste and worst for our environment than fuel fossil.

@jb5music 9 месяцев назад

That's terrible. You can only charge at those rates at home. 55% charge with 4 1/2 hrs to go. 😆 In Europe and America they were complaining about 50kw/h as opposed to 170kw/h with the XC40 at 350KW/H level 2 charging station. At 170kw/h it takes you at least 1/2 hour to go from 20% to 80%. HYDROGEN FUEL CELL TAKES YOU FIVE MINUTES TO GO FROM 0 TO 100%. The lithium ion opportunists had to force l-ion batteries down our throats for their lithium ion Wall Street investment profits pipe dream.

@PsychedMedia 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, you still have to drive to a filling station to fill up your hydrogen. Cant be done while sleeping at home. And have you seen how much it cost to fill up hydrogen

@petertraveller6421 9 месяцев назад

Maybe hydrogen is faster to fill up, but don't forget what is the price for this faster fill up, Björn Nyland has a video where he refill Toyota Mirai in Norway, price for refill was 85 euros. And hydrogen car is also electric car, Björn said that can drive 600 km with 1 tank, if you don't go too fast, BUT when you take your speed up to 120 km/h highway speed, Mirai can only go 400 km with 1 tank of hydrogen, so 1000 km cost about 212 euros. I don't have so much money to waste, with EV 60 euros is enough for same trip. 1 extra bonus, hydrogen car cost about 70 to 80 thousand euros, and if fuelcell breaks after warranty, it can be anything between 40 to 100 thousand euros to replace. So EV is much better to average person 's wallet. Example Hyundai ioniq 5 can charge 10% to 80% in 18 minutes, hydrogen is not so much faster.

@songd.k2011 9 месяцев назад

BYD burn your dream lol 😂

@keegan773 7 месяцев назад

Of course you got ripped off…..you bought an EV. You never get this when you fill up with gas.

@rajaharry7170 9 месяцев назад

what a joke to tell that charging EV is at the speed of refilling petrol... EV especially those China one is still far from being convenient for a need to charge outside the house, that's why people staying in apartment may not consider EV....also time is money especially on a tiring long drive on highway, the good thing is charging EV at low speed allows you to spend more time at the perhentian to take shower and it make your drive more refreshing and safe....

@qilu2004 9 месяцев назад

as chargers become available everywhere, one will be able to charge when convenient not when needed. it means you do NOT wait for the charging to complete or to hot 80%. you just leave when you need to, because next time you park, whether to office or to get a breakfast you can charge again. unlike fueling stations, chargers can be everywhere.

@chjin1796 9 месяцев назад

In China, AC charging piles are generally home charging piles. Home charging stations are used for charging at night or leisure time and do not require particularly fast speeds. The commercial charging piles outside are basically DC charging piles. Most cars use DC charging piles to charge to 80% and it only takes 30 minutes

@qilu2004 9 месяцев назад

@@chjin1796 why wait for 30 minutes? why insists on charge to 80%? next time u park somewhere there is chargers available there. no need to let charging change your routine. that is the beauty of having vast charging network. charging speed becomes less important.

@chjin1796 9 месяцев назад

@@qilu2004 ？？？